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Speedball VS. Woodsball

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Topic: Speedball VS. Woodsball
Posted By: Tubb-A-Lub
Subject: Speedball VS. Woodsball
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 5:07pm
I want your opinion on the 2 types of game play. I personally think speed ball is one of the stupidest things ever created. Whenever you watch or play a speedball game, all everyone does is just sit there, usually with an automatic, pissing away all their ammo and money by shooting near a bunker where someone is hiding and not eliminating them. Then a lot of the Speedballers talk garbage about how they used 500 paintballs to get one guy out.. Woodsball is better in my mind because its in more of a natural milsim environment and I dont have to buy 2 cases of paintballs for a day of playing it.


Keep the language clean please



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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 5:07pm
LOL

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Posted By: Tubb-A-Lub
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 5:10pm
Want to explain your response? lol


Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 5:30pm
Just because youre bad at it doesnt mean its stupid Wink

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Posted By: Tubb-A-Lub
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 5:37pm
Lol, I'm not really bad at it, its just that the "pros" use so many paintballs, I use about 1/4 of what they do.


Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 5:39pm
Speedball, at my young age, has given me the opportunity to have experiences a lot of less fortunate people never get to do, and for a lot less money than it usually costs too.  To simplify it down like you did, AND to come at it from such a biased point of view not only draws credit away from your argument, it sort of makes you look bigoted and stubborn.

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Posted By: Tubb-A-Lub
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 5:45pm
I'm just giving my opinion, I just don't see the point in wasting my money on speedball, I never said I didn't have fun playing, but it is retarded. And how are you an Air Force Pilot at 20 years old, is that just what you want to do, because I want to do Security Forces.


Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 5:45pm
So does the fact that you use 1/4 the paint of what we do make you better?

Also, what USAF said.

you watch bad paintballers if all they do is sit there and shoot near a bunker.

Your opinion on it being a waste doesn't mean it is.

In my mind sitting behind some trees is a waste.


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Posted By: Tubb-A-Lub
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 5:49pm
God, a lot of you people are cocky. 


Posted By: Tubb-A-Lub
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 5:51pm
Why do you people think I'm not allowing you to your opinion? I want to hear your opinion I don't want you to come on here and yell at me for mine.


Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 5:53pm
nobody is yelling princess. take a chill pill. 

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 5:53pm
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Posted By: Tubb-A-Lub
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 5:54pm
Lol I'm not yelling either.


Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 6:07pm
im yelling, just not here.
 
IMO, speedball>>>>woodsball annyday.


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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 6:34pm
Speedball is a lot more fun to watch than woodsball. I find they are equally fun to play though. Each has strategies of their own.

But yeah, if you watch the noobs that just sit and wait to be shot, then your opinion is flawed.


Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 6:37pm
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v189/150/66/1399500147/n1399500147_30021927_2334.jpg - http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v189/150/66/1399500147/n1399500147_30021927_2334.jpg

Me, "sitting and hiding" behind a bunker.


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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 6:49pm
Wait, what do you mean "you people"?

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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 6:53pm
You aren't watching very good games. Speedball is very much like chess. If you get a key bunker, you can shut down a 1/4 of the field. And the constant shooting prevents other players from moving and gaining an advantage. Sitting and being bored is more woodsball than speed. I get bored in the woods, so i'm usually the guy Rambo-ing it and charging the other team. I'd rather sit on a chair and be talking with people than laying and waiting in woodsball.

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Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 6:55pm
really the only thing different between the two is the environment in which and speed at which each is played.

trees = bunkers, make the field smaller, divide game time by 10 and you have speedball.

the tactics are relatively the same: get a better angle on the opponent or get/wait for them to mess up and take them out.

the amount of paint used has no relevance really, its just the way the game is played. a faster and tighter game requires one to shoot more paint. a slower game doesnt have this requirement especially when the players are as spread out as they usually are in woods games. though, ive seen plenty of woods players "waste" just as much paint as a speed player, and ive seen a speed player (and i myself at times) use only a handfull of paint and still win the game.

So to call one stupid is calling the other stupid, in a sense.

Not being able to handle/play the other, does not equal it being stupid.

"Smack" talking is present in all sports and their variants.

No one is making you shoot/buy that much paint.


I'll end this by saying i love both just the same.


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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 6:58pm
GUYS.

Guys, something terrible has happened.

There was a terrible accident. Oh God, how could I have been so stupid.

Look, I'm going to try and explain it the best I can:

I tired making a time machine on the Internet. Nothing special, just something to travel in and see how people thought back in the day, on sites with no good archive, like this forum.

Then I pushed it too far. Oh God, it is was terrible. A massive explosion. Bodies everywhere.

The end result was that I sent the forum back to 2001. That's why a 14 year old is on the forum making a woodsball vs. speedball argument. Soon, he will probably say that paintball wasn't meant to be played in a bright jersey. He will probably use the term "paint hose" too.

It's also the same reason there is a petition thread swirling around to try and keep paintball from being OMG BANNED! somewhere.

Guys, I am sorry. I will try and fix this as soon as possible. In the meantime, just remember: paint knives are not real, the Hellhound is not for sale, and you know what to do about paintball snipers.

Good luck. God speed.


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 6:58pm
I play speedball with a pump. I shoot about a 1/4 of what YOU shoot.
 
Edit: Whale, I think I love you.


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 7:00pm
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

 
Edit: Whale, I think I love you.


While I wouldn't go this far, I did laugh.


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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 7:04pm
Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

The end result was that I sent the forum back to 2001.


I'm not buying it.  I just checked the mirror and I don't have hair again.


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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 7:12pm
 
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

Edit: Whale, I think I love you.


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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 7:23pm
Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:


Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

The end result was that I sent the forum back to 2001.
I'm not buying it.  I just checked the mirror and I don't have hair again.


This.

Also, Whale's avatar still has a beard definitely not agentwhale007 as we knew him back in the day.

Quit being a party-pooper Whale! This is the most paintball we've seen in T&O in YEARS!

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Posted By: IMPULS3.
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 7:30pm
What is with all the noobs posting in T&O?

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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 7:59pm
Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

The end result was that I sent the forum back to 2001.


I'm not buying it.  I just checked the mirror and I don't have hair again.


Easy mistake, but I see where you messed up Mack.  He said 2001, not 1874.


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Posted By: IMPULS3.
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 8:17pm
Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

The end result was that I sent the forum back to 2001.


I'm not buying it.  I just checked the mirror and I don't have hair again.


Easy mistake, but I see where you messed up Mack.  He said 2001, not 1874.
 
Zing!


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Posted By: Tubb-A-Lub
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 10:34pm
I'm 16 actually, but thanks for the completely unnecessary outburst that only seems to destroy any actual meaning behind this post.


Posted By: Tubb-A-Lub
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 10:36pm
Could you people just answer with your opinion, instead of <poopy> your pants because one 16 year old kid doesn't agree with you? You seem more childish than me and your supposed to be the ones leading me to my future. Thanks a lot.
 
 
<language, please>


Posted By: Tubb-A-Lub
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 10:37pm
What pump do you use? I've shot a Phantom before, those things are scary accurate.


Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 10:38pm
You got our opinions out of us.

It consists of your opinion is wrong. Both games are good depending on who is playing it. You watch boring people play speedball.


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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 10:39pm

Old Guys:  Stop messing with the new guy.

 
New Guy:  Chill.
 
 


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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 10:39pm
Originally posted by Tubb-A-Lub Tubb-A-Lub wrote:

completely unnecessary outburst


Welcome to T&O.


Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 10:44pm
I love this place

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Posted By: Tubb-A-Lub
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 10:49pm
I love anyone's opinion, but all you do is bash me for not agreeing with you. It's hilarious. A lot of you just can't accept that Paintball is a game, your acting like my opinion will decide your fate.


Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 10:54pm
How is noone accepting paintball is a game?

You don't even have an opinion. It consists of speedball sucks because they shoot too much paint and waste money when all they do is sit behind a bunker. You say speedballers "piss away all their ammo"

Maybe you should realize that paintball is a game. It is a game that has two different styles of play. One style involves playing in the woods. In the woods you can use less paint because it is easier to move without it. In  the other style when trying to win, more paint is beneficial. That isn't saying you need that paint to be good or to win, but it helps.

You haven't even disagreed with anything anyone said, you just say that people are flipping out because we don't agree.


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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 11:02pm
Originally posted by IMPULS3. IMPULS3. wrote:

Originally posted by usafpilot07 usafpilot07 wrote:

Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

The end result was that I sent the forum back to 2001.


I'm not buying it.  I just checked the mirror and I don't have hair again.


Easy mistake, but I see where you messed up Mack.  He said 2001, not 1874.
 
Zing!


I loled.


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Posted By: Tubb-A-Lub
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 11:02pm
I've said several times that I want your opinion but people like agentwhale just think I'm some idiot and don't realize I want some kind of serious conversation not just a bunch of crap because I don't like speedball. My woodball games only last a few minutes because we don't just sit there, we do move around.


Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 11:05pm
Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

GUYS.

Guys, something terrible has happened.

There was a terrible accident. Oh God, how could I have been so stupid.

Look, I'm going to try and explain it the best I can:

I tired making a time machine on the Internet. Nothing special, just something to travel in and see how people thought back in the day, on sites with no good archive, like this forum.

Then I pushed it too far. Oh God, it is was terrible. A massive explosion. Bodies everywhere.

The end result was that I sent the forum back to 2001. That's why a 14 year old is on the forum making a woodsball vs. speedball argument. Soon, he will probably say that paintball wasn't meant to be played in a bright jersey. He will probably use the term "paint hose" too.

It's also the same reason there is a petition thread swirling around to try and keep paintball from being OMG BANNED! somewhere.

Guys, I am sorry. I will try and fix this as soon as possible. In the meantime, just remember: paint knives are not real, the Hellhound is not for sale, and you know what to do about paintball snipers.

Good luck. God speed.


This is beneath you Whale.


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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 11:08pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:


This is beneath you Whale.


Looks like the machine moved us into 2005 now.

Drats. Still some kinks to work out.


Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 20 July 2009 at 11:29pm
You are the only one flipping out. This is how the forum is, we go off topic.

I gave you my opinion, you did nothing but flip on other people after that. If you're nice, we will be nice to you. Each game has their pros and cons. You do not see that. You watched a boring game of speedball, probably of amatuers who cannot play.

I could say the same thing as you but fliped. -Woodsball is dumb. Wannabe snipers sit and camp and it's so boring- Now, sure, sometimes that may be true. But, having experience like MOST people, I know that's not always true. There are different aspects to different games.

You have to respect that, and other players have to respect that.

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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 12:23am
WHALE has no limits

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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 3:54am
Speedball is a different game to woods/Milsim. Deal with it.

It isn't our problem if you don't appreciate the difference. I didn't really understand the difference when I was a noob either. I preffered the stalking aspect of woods to the cover by fire aspect of speed as well. But I have come to realize that they are both great fun.

Generally, noobs play woods and enjoy it because it is easy to play, it doesn't require buckets of paint, and it doesn't need 30 bps. You can do the whole "snipaz"one shot one kill thing. It does generally speak to the hidden Rambo we all have inside us, and it is great fun.

However there is very little chance of running up against skilled players in it. Mostly at a woods field you'll run into other noobs. Shooting noobs is only fun for so long. While there are woods tournies and events, it is easier to get a bunch of like minded and skilled players to run a speedball course than a woods.

Generally in woods there is an advantage one side over the other. My local field has one side assaulting up a hill, with a serious river protecting one flank. In speed fields are built symmetrical. You both have the same advantages. It is all about the skill of the players and the planning of their game. Dumping paint is only one tactic. And one I've used in Woods. Nothing breaks up a Noob charge like 200 rounds of .68 from a Nightstick.

Now grow up and stop stamping your feet. People here don't agree with you, and have said as much. Stop throwing a tantrum. Learn that other people have different opinions.

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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 8:30am
I think speedball is stupid and a waste of paint.
 
I'm a running sniper and I play woodsball, but sadly I shoot a TON of paint when I play. Typically around 2000 paintballs in 6-8 games, and I have a stock a-5 with an apex barrel, no auto.
 
 
Why are you asking about paintball? I bet half the guys that answered in this thread haven't even played this year...
 
 
Only thing you need to know about woodsball... Fear the Reaper.
 
 
 


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Posted By: a_sock
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 9:25am

he just wants people opinions on this exact topic, and not on his personal problems with going nuts of usual forum behaviour.

I like speedball, I have fun playing it. I like woodsball, I have fun playing it. I like Milsim, but very much dislike the majority of the milsimers ive met as well as the "form over function" mentality. I play semi in both, and have fun, I play pump in both speedball and woodsball, and have a blast. I dont like bushball with a pump, cant shoot through thick undergrowth, and generally dislike playing bushball no matter what.

With out a doubt I play much more woodsball than speedball. I play more pump than with my electric now (pump for rec, electric for tourney/competetive). To me, the amount of paint shot only matters to a certain point, with experience you learn all players/teams shoot the amount they like to shoot, no matter the feild/circumstances. Yesterday, a guy with a pump (t2) shot a case or so, in woodsball and a couple mixed feilds (some haybails and wood bunkers, but set up like a speedball feild). Now, you said in speedball guys just hide behind bunkers and shoot a lot of paint, but then how did this guy, playing woodsball, with pump, one of the slowest styles of paintball markers, shoot a case? Its because everyone has their own playing style, so saying one style of paintball has to be one way is only looking at the group of players you saw.

you have to consider why those speedballers you saw were just hosing. Maybe it was just their peersonal style, or maybe the feild had a 20bps cap and everyone was using it because that was the set standard (I dont think any feild encourages or allows 20bps ramp, but if they did, you wouldnt see a lot of movement), or maybe the layout had wide lanes and not a lot of safe cover?

I find that in woodsball, with an electric(usually in semi, and hopperball, but in leagues ill do a ramp and use pods) I shoot more paint than I do in speedball under the same circumstances, and those around me shoot more in woodsball than in speedball.  I know in speedball Ive been at certain feilds where there are a lot of individuals who love to hose, but you see those guys in woodsball more, there just called "heavy gunners"
In woodsball, I see guys with huge bt's or a5's with the 500 round hoppers, pods melted to them to increase capacity, e-triggers set to shoot stupid fast, and all they do is hose bunkers, half of the time they dont even shoot at a person, just at their bunker to "cover fire".  So, for the most part in my experiences, its some big guy who cant run worth crap and has so much gear/pods on him he couldnt bend over to touch his knees, and all they do is shoot paint while chilling behind a bunker at a safe distance.  Personally, If I get in a situation where some guy does this to me, I whisper **edited**, coward or somethig under my breath, switch hands, go low and pop the guy in the head.

your big problem with speedball is they dont move a lot, chill behind bunkers and shoot to much. Fine, that does happen a fair amount of the time at certain feilds(certain feilds that are frequented by individuals who play like that may bring about others who do the same).  I dont have a problem with woodsball itself, but I do with a lot of its individuals that tend to populate that end of paintball.

Anything other than straight woodsball, and I tend to experience problems. People using mech guns, low rof, people being sneaky and using good team tactics, being able to do those cool bum rushes and unique moves only a large feild will allow, those are all things I love about woodsball, but the problem is in my area those players who love the same things are generally enthusiastic renters or the select few pure woodsballers.  In this area(meaning, I have not played everywhere at all times so my opinion is based on those areas only, and that I have based my opinion from the amount of individuals who all act and behave similarly to the point I have collected them into a group, but still have a seperate opinion on any individual who does not act of behave like this group, regardless of style of play.) we get a lot of milsimers, guys who wear a stupid amount of gear, get all serious, and shoot up little kids.  I played with some guys a while back, 15 of them from this milsim only feild, and I was so overtook by their blatant cheating, treatment of players, and there rof that I stopped playing half way through my day and left early. These guys didnt have a single mech gun on them, none carried less than 4 pods (the majority of them carried 4 on front,and about 8 on back unless they were running a remote line and had a tank on their back). They had no clue how to use their rof and ended up lighting up several little kids, and were always talking about how they did this sick flank maneuver and took out all of this one side. THose guys had the worst shots I have ever seen, I once had a battle against a renter, to whom I had cover against, and one of the milsim guys who I had no cover to, and the renter ended up shooting my gun while I was gunfighting with the other guy.  If anyone actually hitted them(which was quite often, they were slow and had lots of hard targets on them) they wouldnt call their hits, but then complain afterwards that a bunch of stupid kids lit them up. I once had put 2 on a guys head (top of head, not mask) once bounced of his neck smemagh thing, and broke 3 paintballs on his chest, and he continued playing, many would take hits from renters, then bunker/rush that player and call themselves out afterwards...  now, Ive also had a heck of a lot of other guys do the same thing, the majority of milsimers and a lot of plain old woodsballers will use electronic guns that look like milsim/woodsball guns, but shoot the crap out of kids, act horridly, and be all around dicks. 
 
I dress like a "speedballer", I wear pb pants, jersey, sandana, gloves, cleats, use a flashy gun (pump orry and a droid) and will often wear a podpack(50 round pods for pump, standard if I have my droid) and be called a speedballer. I get people who are woodsball/mislim purists who will laugh at me, give me looks, and treat me like im dirt.  They all say I cant be sneaky or play woodsball with my flashy guns(dark purply orry and a gloss black droid...), my flashy gear (camo invert pants and a dark black/green jersey) and everything, that I am going to shoot everyone up and be a douche.  I Understand they may have had experiences where speedballers are this, just like I have negative experiences with some woodsballers. The thing I dont understand, is why guys like this will be dicks to everyone else, think they can shoot me up and be the hero whos saving woodsball from the evil speedballer. Ive had experiences where I was testing out a mech prostock, I went over to help some players on one side, tried to shoot it fast when I was running and jammed a ball, arrive to my bunker safe but the other players I was trying to help get shot, get bunkered by a ramping tm7, and take 4-5 in the back while im walking away, hands up, already 10-15ft from where I originally got shot, and have the guy say some smart arse remark about how his e-trigger went off and that electronic guns just seem to shoot too much paint(im holding the jammed/not working mech gun, and he gives me a comment like that? even if his trigger did malfucntion, why was he pointing at my back as I walked away?)

Youve had problems, Ive had problems, youve made opinions on your problems, as have I. You say speedball is like that, I say you get a lot of problematic guys in woodsball but there still can be an overall more easy going friendly crowd there. I think you just havent experienced enough paintball yet, and everyone thinks I talk wayyyy too much.

answer to it all... play pump, everyone shoots faster than you but it doesnt really matter, and you have to be sneaky(sneaky as in crawling through bush to get that perfect shot, and sneaky as in sharing a bunker with a guy wihtout him knowing, then pop him when he turns to check the other sideTongue


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Posted By: a_sock
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 9:27am
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

 
Only thing you need to know about woodsball... Fear the pumper.
 
 
fixed.


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Posted By: Tubb-A-Lub
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 9:36am
I play Woodball on an Air Force base, we can move the bunkers around all we want so we don't have to worry about unfair advantages. They only have one field and no ref or safety checks. Most of you can't answer my question. At least A_Sock understands that I want to hear your opinion, I don't care whether you like Speedball or Woodball, I just want to know what YOU like. I don't want to hear why my opinion is stupid. If I wanted that I'd talk about politics.


Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 10:10am
Gotta love all the generalizations contained in this thread.

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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 10:14am
I don't have issues playing either. They're both fun.

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Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 10:26am
Originally posted by Tubb-A-Lub Tubb-A-Lub wrote:

I play Woodball on an Air Force base, we can move the bunkers around all we want so we don't have to worry about unfair advantages. They only have one field and no ref or safety checks. Most of you can't answer my question. At least A_Sock understands that I want to hear your opinion, I don't care whether you like Speedball or Woodball, I just want to know what YOU like. I don't want to hear why my opinion is stupid. If I wanted that I'd talk about politics.


You just got the responses you did because you made broad, sweeping generalizations about speedball and the way its played, and used those generalizations as your argument.  People went after you because you didn't give significant, specific reasons to why you seem to have such a strong dislike for the way you've seen some people play speedball.  You critize the way you've seen people play, and yet it would seem that you've played very little of it yourself, if at all due to the way that you've seen people play, and provide no evidence toward the way that you have played it, etc.  Using a lot of paint is a tactic that can be used in ALL types of play, not only speedball.  Is there someone behind a tree that you're having a hard time getting?  Throw some paint down on his position, run up while they're pinned, and get them out once you're able to gain a better position.  Yes, indeed you have "bunkered" someone - something normally seen on a speedball field.  Now, why would someone perform such a tactic in another disipline of play?  Because IT WORKS.  I can make other parrellels to why speedball tactics are transferable, and should be transferred, to all types of play if you wish.   

Really, to your question though, I enjoy both.  I play significantly more woodsball than speedball, but on any given day I'll have fun playing either.  The two are generally very different in not only the way they are played, but the very nature of the game.  Yes, they are both types of paintball, but apples and oranges are both fruit as well.


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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 10:30am
Originally posted by Yomillio Yomillio wrote:

<a bunch of stuff>

Srsly. Welcome to T&O. People are going to flame you if you can't construct a coherent argument.

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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 11:34am
Originally posted by a_sock a_sock wrote:

everyone thinks I talk wayyyy too much.

 
I couldn't resist...
 
I like speedball its fast.
 
I bet you my paintball gun can shoot 350 feet...


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 5:17pm
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

I think speedball is stupid and a waste of paint.
 
Isadly I shoot a TON of paint when I play. Typically around 2000 paintballs in 6-8 games
 


These  two statements coupled together make no sense.


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Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 6:07pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

I think speedball is stupid and a waste of paint.
 
Isadly I shoot a TON of paint when I play. Typically around 2000 paintballs in 6-8 games
 


These  two statements coupled together make no sense.
I was waiting for some likeminded person to point that out.


Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 6:11pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

I think speedball is stupid and a waste of paint.
 
Isadly I shoot a TON of paint when I play. Typically around 2000 paintballs in 6-8 games
 


These  two statements coupled together make no sense.


I don't think he's talking quantity in both instances.  He's not saying people waste paint in speedball, he sees playing it instead of woodsball as "a waste."

Which, doesn't strengthen his argument in anyways, especially from someone who is always talking about how no one is willing to hear the other side of an argument.


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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 6:28pm
Can't hear all you noobs over the sound of how much I rule, sorry.

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Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 21 July 2009 at 9:32pm
well said mr president

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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 2:30am
Originally posted by Tubb-A-Lub Tubb-A-Lub wrote:

Most of you can't answer my question. At least A_Sock understands that I want to hear your opinion, I don't care whether you like Speedball or Woodball, I just want to know what YOU like.


Lol WHUT? Less intoxicated posting please.

You don't think we can answer the question. So why bother asking us? Maybe if you asked the question better.

You want our opinion, but we aren't allowed to explain why ours differs from yours?

Then, and this piece is golden, you DON'T want to know what we like, you just want to know what we like?

Seriously man, think then post.

What you did was the equivalent of gate crash a party, yell insults at about half the people there, and then get riled when they got their backs up.

I don't know if you'd noticed but people tend to explain their opinions. If you didn't want that, you should have created a poll.

Basically, I like both. I don't see Speedball as a waste of paint.

I did USED to, but not any more. I understand the game better now.

Other people do agree with you. Some don't. What result where you expecting from this post? Everyone agreeing? A list of people going "I like Speed/ I like Woods"? What was your objective from this topic if we aren't allowed to expand on our opinions?

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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 9:16am
I like speedball its fun to shoot lots of paint...

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Posted By: Tubb-A-Lub
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 10:30pm
What I said was that, to me you can like either and it won't bother me, I just want to know your personal opinion, I don't want people to talk about my opinion.


Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 22 July 2009 at 10:55pm

let it die hombre



Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 7:39am
I like woodsball, its fun to shoot lots of paint.
 
Wait, I like speedball its fun to shoot lots of paint.
 
Fear the reaper...


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Posted By: IMPULS3.
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 8:24am
Why are we talking about paintball in T&O?


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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 8:32am
Originally posted by IMPULS3. IMPULS3. wrote:

Why are we talking about paintball in T&O?
 Because there is a bridge somewhere missing it's troll.


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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 8:33am
I like tournament paintball. For one, the skill-set readily transfers over, and typically speedball/tournament players are much better with gun-skills (be it snap-shooting, running and shooting, shooting a lane, and general accuracy).

The format also requires much more finesse, grace, and skill (it's not hard to move when there are trees all around, but it takes skill to know when, how, and where to move in the open).

The athleticism required is much greater as well. It's not often you see a forty-year-old man playing competitively in tournaments, yet they dominate scenario and woodsball.


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 9:47am
The reaper always dominates.
 
 
Fear him...
 
I've considered playing tournaments, but finding others that come even close to my skill level is difficult. Maybe I could clone myself twice...


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Posted By: The Reaper
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 9:49am
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Maybe I could clone myself twice...
 
 
 
THAT is a good idea...


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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 10:13am

^^^Benji, you didn't face palm this??



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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 10:33am
I prefer woodsball/scenario type of play. However, to be more precise, I prefer big games or multi-day scenarios with broader objectives than just having one group shooting the other out over and over again. I tend to use rec play days as "technical" days in order to fine tune new gear or try different setups. I also lean towards larger games/scenarios because there tends to be a higher ratio of experienced players than standard walk on days. When I do play rec ball, I usually try to watch for players with potential and work my way into grouping up with them. Often times, they are rentals, but no always. I tend to shun NOOBS. And by noobs, I mean the kids calling them bullets and machine guns who when the whistle blows run up 2 feet to the closest tree 200 feet from the action and brag about how they "lasted the whole game". Even though I strictly only play non-speedball courses it is more because that is what is available to me. I don't have anything against speedball, but it doesn't truly appeal to me. It could be as Gatyr pointed out due to age and lack of athleticism (I'm a 41 year old desk jockey), or it could be because I enjoy getting out in the woods and playing Army.  Probably a little of both. As far as hosing paint, I have seen plenty of guys playing non-speedball games and using as much if not more paint. One guy I know that plays in a lot of the games I go to regularly runs through 2 cases of pain in a day of play. And the reason I call them "non-speedball" is because they are not always in the woods. Several of the fields have cleared areas with tactical fields, villages, etc that are not really woodsball.  Anyone familiar with Battlefront in Hubbard, Ohio or Hell Survivors in Michigan can use those fields as good examples of what I am talking about.
 
While on the subject, there are plenty of fields that even though in the woods are pretty much still speedball courses. They use trees instead of blow ups, but they are still essentially speedball courses set in the woods.
 
Both versions have good players and bad, in both skill and attitude.


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 11:58am
Originally posted by Tubb-A-Lub Tubb-A-Lub wrote:

What I said was that, to me you can like either and it won't bother me, I just want to know your personal opinion, I don't want people to talk about my opinion.


Not the way it works in the real world buddy.  Get over it.  People disagree with you and they stated why; if you can't handle it go someplace else until you mature enough to realize that nobody gets to automatically be right just because they want it that way.


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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 12:07pm
Originally posted by The Reaper The Reaper wrote:

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Maybe I could clone myself twice...
 
 
 
THAT is a good idea...









Originally posted by Ceesman762 Ceesman762 wrote:

^^^Benji, you didn't face palm this??

Done.




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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 12:09pm
^^^^Thank You Benji.

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Posted By: The Reaper
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 12:22pm
My favorite is hunting deer with my paintball gun. As deer are always more challenging that humans.
 
I shot a 12 point buck with my paintball gun, after sneaking up on it in my backyard.
 
 
Yeah, he now fears the reaper...


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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 12:35pm
Good job on finding the solarize filter

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Posted By: The Reaper
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 12:38pm
I love all those filters, they are a blast. Have you seen the night vision one... It needs more juice but its pretty good.
 
I use photobucket more than photoshop now, as it is so much faster to use quickly.


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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 23 July 2009 at 1:12pm
Paint knife.

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