Oh God, They Got Together Again
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Topic: Oh God, They Got Together Again
Posted By: choopie911
Subject: Oh God, They Got Together Again
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 3:11pm
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/42448313@N03/sets/72157622224474669/ - Some amazing signs
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 3:34pm
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"Don't tax me bro!" Haha, awesome.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 3:45pm
Wow, starting to think Van Jones wasn't making a joke.
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 3:51pm
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"Command and chief ha how about commander and thieve" lolgrammarwut? ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 4:00pm
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I thought this was about sublime. I am disappointed ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 4:55pm
| High voltage, I saw that one and laughed so hard, I was hoping someone would post it |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 5:00pm
I may go to heck for it, but I must admit I was amused by this one:
 "United we stand - or, you know, sit" ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: impulse!!
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 5:11pm
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 5:12pm
I cant believe i missed that! -------------
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Rambino wrote:Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 5:33pm
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FOX NEWS: THE 21st CENTURY PAUL REVERE! < id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" =""> ------------- 
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 6:25pm
OS?   some of them were just downright funny, but a lot of them just don't make any sense |
Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 6:26pm
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Looking though these pictures makes me wonder: No matter the protest, be it for left or right politics, whatever, how hard is it to use proper grammar and spelling on your signs? Honestly. |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 7:07pm
You are such liberal. Why always hating non the right? Also, lol@the sign with unnecessary quotations around "Obama" That isn't like FE and OS AT ALL ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 10:18pm
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im the only one thinking "to bad they werent all open carrying? ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: adrenalinejunky
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 10:59pm
now thats just plain scary. |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 13 September 2009 at 11:06pm
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Kinda makes you miss the old Code Pink, Move-On.org and other lefty signage where the spelling and content skills were also questionable. But only republicans are funny, democrats and leftists are patriotic.
And if a picture of Obama doesn't scare you all now, heaven help ya, you will soon understand why the agenda of the left only applies to you, not thier elite. ------------- 
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 12:17am
-------------  irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 1:40am
Way to miss the point, no-one ever said bad spelling and being a retard was patriotic if you're left of center. |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 10:55am
------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 12:28pm
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No matter how amusing the signs may at times be, the fact that over a million Americans (possibly as many as two million) got together with one voice in one spot is pretty damned significant. You can't simply pretend that opposition to health care reform and other fiscal initiatives is in any way a fringe point of view. This is very, very real. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 12:49pm
Actually 2 million is their "estimate" and it's sounding like their actual attendance was closer to 70,000. This site does a good job showing the massive difference between 70,000, and 2,000,000. Not even close. |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 1:12pm
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You failed to type your link, but regardless, the protest filled the paved parts of the mall, much of the washington monument area, and extended a couple MILES back along Constitution and Pennsylvania Aves. Anumber of media outlets have quoted numbers of 60-70,000, but the photos I've seen, compared with the http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-01-19-crowd_N.htm - National Park Service estimates of presidential inauguration attendance, can't possibly have so few people. Bear in mind that the graphic shown there does not take into account crowds spilling into other streets, just the mall. Without a doubt the crowd rivaled Obama's inauguration, which was about 1.3m in attendance. I don't know if the downplaying of crowd numbers is deliberate or inadvertant, but either way it's dishonest. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 1:22pm
I don't see it as opposition to healthcare reform. I see it as opposition to SOCIALISM ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: Peter Parker
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 1:59pm
I have no data on the size of this particular gathering, other than to note that it seems unlikely to have been close to the inauguration. I say this only because of the vast traffic control efforts, travel blackouts, and general swampage that the inauguration caused and which, as far as I can tell, was mostly absent prior to and during this latest event.
That said, I agree that the opposition to the current healthcare proposal isn't "fringe" in a demographic sense. But, frankly, I think jmac has it right - this has less to do with healthcare than it has to do with Obama in general.
Bottom line is that the healthcare system and the various proposals are all hideously complex. I find it hard to believe that 40% of the population has any meaningful degree of understanding of the issues involved, which tells me that they are opposing on other grounds instead - and my prime suspect is general anti-Obamaism.
Countering my own point would be the furor we saw when Medicare was introduced, and the very familiar rhetoric with which it was accompanied.
------------- "E Pluribus Unum" does not mean "Every man for himself". Pop Quiz: What do all the Framers of the Constitution have in common? |
Posted By: adrenalinejunky
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 2:02pm
| i think anti obama is only a part of it. i think anti government control is another large part of it. |
Posted By: Peter Parker
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 2:11pm
Well, that's pretty obviously not true. We all laugh at Code Pink. Heck, even The Daily Show, considered by some to be left-wing propaganda, laughs at Code Pink. In fact, this segment is one of the most popular clips they have (based on my limited and random market research).
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-march-10-2008/marines-in-berkeley - http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-march-10-2008/marines-in-berkeley
A picture of Obama should scare me? What scares me is that otherwise rational people think I should be scared of Obama.
------------- "E Pluribus Unum" does not mean "Every man for himself". Pop Quiz: What do all the Framers of the Constitution have in common? |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 2:16pm
Sorry, here is one link http://pbump.net/912.html - http://pbump.net/912.html I haven't really looked elsewhere, because I don't care that much, but it DOES sound like lots of people are getting that number. That's a HUGE inflation of numbers. |
Posted By: Peter Parker
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 2:17pm
That is certainly what they say, but the history doesn't bear it out. Certainly many of the organizers/protesters are legitimate libertarians and whatnot, but others "anti-government" only when the government is one with which they disagree.
It is not hard for any of us to recall recent times when most any criticism of government or the President would be labeled "anti-American" or some similar silliness - and now we hear many of those same commentators and lawmakers (and forumers and, I suspect, random protesters) happily declare how evil the government and President is.
In my experience, 90% of the time or more, when somebody says that they are against "big government" or think that "government should stay out", that simply means that they don't like what the government is doing right now. It is right up with "activist judges" as a buzz-phrase that people use to justify perfectly normal political opinions.
Terry Schiavo is a brilliant example of this phenomenon. The tea parties is another. Gay marriage is another. Buy American provisions is another. The list goes on and on.
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 2:27pm
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It should be noted that they have been publishing photos from helicopters from the million man march and not the 9/12 protests.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2338835/posts - My favorite source. ------------- 
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 2:36pm
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The compliant media is saying @ 70,000 attended, for that is what they want to believe.
Traffic Cam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E-OreKKXjA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E-OreKKXjA National Park Police estimate: 500,000 plus Daily Mail (UK) estimate: @1,000,000 plus Memo to Democrats prior to event: estimates of 1 million to appear, downplay numbers. Patriot Guard (motorcycle group) numbers in attendance: 11,570 registered from all over country, headcount of 10,400 taken at event. Iron Eagle members 9,500 estimated head count at last ride check point (5.5 mile long double column entering DC from I-95N). So that is @20,000 motorcyclists alone, so the 70,000 is pure downplaying numbers for political convienience. I will say 500,000 and be happy.......you all believe what you care to believe. And I am willing to bet that the media would never state that Farrakhan's "Million Man March" was just a bunch of angry black racists and bigots, nor over state thier numbers. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 2:40pm
Wow... And I like how OS STILL blames the liberal media when it's clear that everyone announcing numbers is out to lunch with their own ideas and agenda. 2 million is still hugely inflated. Hugely |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 2:46pm
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That why I will go with 500,000 and not the 70,000. DC Park Police estimate is probably more correct. And for those of you that actually trust CNN/ABC/NBC/CBS etc, I pity you fools.
Andrew Wilkow was there, and I am not willing to go with his 1,000,000 but again will stand fast at @500,000 just from photos and numbers alone posted by Patriot Guard and Iron Eagles, then add in the 90% non motorcycist crowd.. HINT: http://people-press.org/report/543/ - http://people-press.org/report/543/ Oh BTW I have seen 70,000 at Memorial Stadium in Lincoln for a Huskers Game, this a a few more than 70,000 (On September 27, 2008, a Memorial Stadium record crowd of 85,831 watched Nebraska play Virginia Tech.) http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09256/997695-84.stm - http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09256/997695-84.stm http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1213056/Up-million-march-US-Capitol-protest-Obamas-spending-tea-party-demonstration.html - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1213056/Up-million-march-US-Capitol-protest-Obamas-spending-tea-party-demonstration.html The faithfull UK press, and thier agenda is? And: http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/912_rally_media_crowd/2009/09/14/259829.html - http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/912_rally_media_crowd/2009/09/14/259829.html BTW notice the Post Obama innaguraration pictures of the mall, and the post 9/12 pictures of the mall, which group has the larger percentage of downright pigs, leaving trash everywhere. Hint not the 9/12 crowd. Dems always expect someone else to clean up after them. -------------
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Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 3:28pm
such as yourself? ------------- 
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 3:30pm
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Yea right.......media=agenda from both spectrums. The left believes the CNN/ABC/NBC/CBS/MSNBC crowd and the right believes FOX, I believe my eyes from the amatuer videos all over the net. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 3:37pm
To be fair OS, your own opinion/ views have misinformed you many times before..so..... |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 3:43pm
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Lets see 85,000 assemble in nowhere Lincoln, Nebraska for a football game, yet the media insists only 70,000 from across the nation show for a rally on the mall.............PLEASE
July 4, 2009 Memorial Stadium again in nowhere Lincoln, Nebraska had 70,000 plus for Larry the Cable Guy for christs sake.........so again PLEASE Lincoln, NE pop @300,000 total -------------
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Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 3:47pm
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just because it doesnt conform to your point does not mean it didnt happen oldtimer
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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 3:54pm
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What cracks me up is these are the same morons who screamed bloody murder about unamerican hippies protesting Bush. A few years ago, not only would you not have heard about this, but half those people would have been arrested or moved to "Free speech zones"
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 3:57pm
Um... What he's trying to argue is that it DID happen, in a very big way. It's those generally opposed to his views who are trying to downplay attendance. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 4:13pm
I read this and I was like "wow". Again with conservatives and their "lack" of knowing anything about grammar/ sentence structure. Also: Yeah, it’s good to tell the truth but should a Leftist criticize you fairly or unfairly: it is no matter. Answer like this: Lefty: “Hey! That photo is fake!” or "I like your shirt." You or me: “Go to Hell, you stinking piece of filth." |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 4:19pm
Probably the same 70,000
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 4:25pm
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To quote: "First they ignore you, then they mock you, then you win"
Mahatma Gandhi It is the left who are downplaying this, because in thier world only they have the right to demonstrate against social injustice. Now that they are on the recieving end, they do not like it much, now do they. With Obama's popularity and political agenda waning, even those in his own party are beginning to distance themselves from him, the mid-terms are coming up, I am betting that the Dems lose the majority in the house and Senate, and in 2012 Obama is not going to be the Democrat nominee. "I will not run, nor accept, my parties nomination for the Presidancy of the United States." we heard it once before as they threw one of thier own under the bus. -------------
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 4:36pm
Kind of like some years ago when we had to demonstrate against social injustices done to the African Americans. Then the Women. Now the homosexuals. Man, our causes are so similar it's scary!
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 4:45pm
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Yea, I kinda miss when the Southern Democrats demonstrated against the Civil Rights act, and it took Republican votes to make it the law of the land. Even Al Gore senior trumpeting the message, and George...Segregation Now, and Segregation forever...Wallace. And of course the pro Soviet Union/Cuba/Che Guevera Lefty Demonstrations of the late 60's and 70's. Yep gotta love the Democrats/Lefts consistancy.
Psst....secret...Most of you racial/bigoted southern white supremists are still and have been Democrats, as well as most of your Southern States KKK membership....go West Virginia. And we are called "red necks". Check the FBI Group Dynamic Breakdown of modern White Supremist Groups and the political leanings therein. -------------
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Posted By: adrenalinejunky
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 5:02pm
i'm not gonna claim to be an expert on the subject.... but this seems very suspect to me... do you have a link supporting this claim? |
Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 5:16pm
this is what i was talking about bri. he's trying to say there were more than 70,000 people JUST because there were 85000 people at a football game -------------
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 5:23pm
you forgot Old...Obama-is-a-Muslim!...Soldier -------------
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 5:24pm
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 5:46pm
The fact that his logic was terrible did not mean that his conclusion was factually incorrect. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 5:58pm
As an interesting - and non political - side note from someone who spends every Saturday in a football press box: Schools fudge their attendance numbers all the damn time. They count how many potential seats are processed as being filled, not how many people actually show up. I suspect that this is more rampant in sports than just college football, but that is my experience. |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 6:08pm
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Really wished someone would've showed up with a big rainbow sign written in big letters, "GAY PRIDE DAY!"
"oooh... wrong day?"
It'd make for alot of grumpy rednecks.
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Posted By: Uncle Rudder
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 6:10pm
Fix'd  ------------- 
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 6:14pm
Do you actually find it acceptable to make such broad, sweeping generalizations and to characterize a group of people, who only have a loosely defined ideology in common, in such a way? I understand that there might be a vocal group who fit your characterization, and I understand that people in camps opposite yours do the same thing, but do you really find it necessary or acceptable to use such a logical fallacy and childish way of describing a group of people? < id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" =""> -------------
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 6:17pm
I fully intend on doing something similar if The WBC comes anywhere near where I am. Except I'll be wearing a speedo that is (literally) ten sizes too small. < id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" =""> -------------
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 14 September 2009 at 6:34pm
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lol, that is so win.
It is also why you sir, have gatyraids.
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 15 September 2009 at 1:49pm
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Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 15 September 2009 at 2:09pm
| I wonder what it's like to constantly have your opinions proved to be silly |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 15 September 2009 at 3:14pm
Probably something like being a second year political science student who's part of the campus Marxist society. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 15 September 2009 at 5:03pm
We had someone write a column to the paper on Monday that we ended up running. The guy was the head of the "Students for Communism" organization on campus, and was writing about how it's dumb to label Obama a communist or socialist, as nothing he has done really fits in at all with the socialist or communist mindset. It was a good read. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 September 2009 at 5:09pm
Link it, bro. -------------
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 15 September 2009 at 5:13pm
| http://www.centralfloridafuture.com/obama-shouldn-t-be-painted-as-a-socialist-1.1875470 - Here you go. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 September 2009 at 5:26pm
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Cool story, bro. Never thought I'd get to use that phrase seriously. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 15 September 2009 at 5:56pm
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/15/tea-party-leader-melts-do_n_286933.html - Good way to discredit yourself
Just wow. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 16 September 2009 at 4:06am
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LOL is all I can say. -------------
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Posted By: Peter Parker
Date Posted: 16 September 2009 at 1:09pm
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I love watching looniebins. That stuff just never gets old.
------------- "E Pluribus Unum" does not mean "Every man for himself". Pop Quiz: What do all the Framers of the Constitution have in common? |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 16 September 2009 at 1:09pm
CNN and The Huffington post . . . those are some really unbiased sources. (Just wanted to see what it felt like to treat people the way everyone treats OS and FE.) As for the clip, the article title is way over-sensationalized compared to the reality of the interview. (I also find the level of coverage given to this odd when compared to the minimal coverage given to the "all Republicans are <sphincters>" guy.) -------------
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Posted By: Peter Parker
Date Posted: 16 September 2009 at 1:15pm
That was my reaction as well. It was a little funny, but certainly not a "ZOMG RACIST FOOL" moment.
------------- "E Pluribus Unum" does not mean "Every man for himself". Pop Quiz: What do all the Framers of the Constitution have in common? |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 16 September 2009 at 1:17pm
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^^^Ditto. I have to admit to having experienced a little amusement myself at watching Mr. Holier-than-thou get hoisted a bit on his own petard.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 September 2009 at 1:27pm
It's really not surprising, it IS the Huffington post. And yeah, its more for what he actual does/ says, not what the article shrieks about. Should have been more clear. |