Obama Youth
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Topic: Obama Youth
Posted By: oldsoldier
Subject: Obama Youth
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 4:34pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zrsl8o4ZPo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zrsl8o4ZPo
Public Schools....go figure. Listen to the initial lyrics.....1935 anyone ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 4:50pm
| You're an idiot OS, a blind old idiot. |
Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 4:51pm
| lol |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 4:56pm
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Just imagine if this was a George Bush praise session, would the same feelings of who cares abound.....No and you all know it. But you are blinded by your own shortsightedness and locked into the belief system ths schools have given your. Praise the President,OK, praist the individual within a "cult of personality" not a good thing. -------------
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 4:56pm
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I'd suggest you learn to embed youtube videos, OS. The comments on that video's page are most certainly strike worthy.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 4:59pm
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No I'm saying this happens with every president, and some kids singing a song has nothing to do with brainwashing, agendas, recruiting, etc. Look at nursery rhymes, kids sing those and they don't learn to beat their wifes or make babies fall out of a tree. It's a kids song, and thats it.
On top of that, the title of the thread just highlights your ignorance and prejudice. |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 5:26pm
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OS, stop letting the Vicodin talk for you.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 5:38pm
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So, the line " . . . for all your great accomplishments . . . " got me thinking. What has the president actually accomplished* so far? I am also curious about the specific context this was done in. It almost sounds like they are getting ready for a presidential visit based on the ". . . we honor you today . . ." line. (Of course, "honor" could have been "offer" or they could just be sending a video.) *The failout is probably in there, but I think it will be viewed as a mistake in the long term by at least some economists because of the effect on the deficit and the fact that it was passed too quickly without sufficient review. (And when this happens, it will be Former President Bush's fault because he actually got the ball rolling.) ------------- 
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 5:52pm
As always just because you keep saying this doesn't make it true. ------------- Que pasa? 
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oldsoldier wrote:Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 5:56pm
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Of course, the blind patriotism indoctrinating the youth through the pledge of allegiance, practically mandated by every public school, is fine. When one class in one school sings a song: not so much. < id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" =""> ------------- 
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 6:14pm
Denial doesn't make it an untruth either. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 6:29pm
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Something like this? To add: I don't ever recall hearing anybody complain about this, certainly not the media. So yeah, OS, I would say that once again you are full of it. -------------
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 6:32pm
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This scares me more. ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 6:34pm
Wow thats really messed up. I'm glad to see someone inspired to achieve, but a shame to see so much misguided-ness. |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 6:37pm
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I am pretty sure it takes more than camo pants to make a group "militant."but yeah, gold boots lol. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 6:38pm
| Yeah it looks like some highschool junk |
Posted By: super_gman
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 6:46pm
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I couldn't help but notice 2 things. First, the video was taken on June 19. Second, if you look at the lyrics for song #2, it reads: "Hello, Mr. President we honor you today! For all your great accomplishments, we all doth say "hooray!"Hooray, Mr. President! You're number one! The first black American to lead this great nation!" Now, call me crazy, but I can't help but think that perhaps the reason behind singing the song and honoring our president is because of this holiday: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth Just a thought. ------------- Zerglet. |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 7:23pm
Yes, because a camp that parents choose to send their children to is so similar to public schools that most parents have to send their children to and the bible camp instructors are being paid from the same public funds as the teachers in the public school. I would have to say that in this case OS is not the one that is "full of it." -------------
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 7:33pm
Nope, churches aren't "non profit" and don't pay taxes on property and money brought in. That doesn't happen at all. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 8:17pm
And that applies to my point how? -------------
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 9:22pm
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Benefits from the federal government.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 10:33pm
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It's not about benefits, it's about employees who are taking a government paycheck pursuing what at first glance appears to be partisan agenda in the performance of their daily duties. On the other hand, what is suggested by your post (indicating that a religious organization should not pursue a political agenda because of tax breaks) logically leads dangerously close to breaching the constitutional separation of church and state. I.e. believing that tax breaks should be taken away from religions that support certain candidates interferes with the (collective) right of the parishioners freedom of speech. If the logical step of removing said tax breaks for such action were to follow, then we get into issues related to using taxes to promote an agenda of social reform along with interference in "the free exercise" of such religions. (Based on the fact that these groups tend to promote/vilify politicians based on their religious beliefs.) -------------
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 10:42pm
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Did I say their tax breaks should be taken away?
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 11:06pm
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I dunno how to feel about this one. Honestly, it makes me uncomfortable. I don't remember ever singing the great accomplishments of a sitting president when i was a kid. Politics have no place with kids this young, it borders on indoctrination if you ask me. That being said, the Nazi comparisons with every president is annoying me. I can compare anything to Hitler if I so choose, it's killing the ability to take anyone seriously when we're still drawing comparisons to the Nazi regime to prove a point. This isn't a matter of "Obama youth"; Obama didn't force this school to do this, this is a matter of keeping partisan politics and school seperate. Kids should be objective information and facts about the political system, and form their own opinions as they grow older, not sing the anthem of a partisan politician. |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 1:09am
| We need to pool our money and start putting up Obama statues. That'd really freak them out. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 1:18am
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All this partisan butthurt reminds me of the OMG OUTRAGE that happened after Janet Jackson's breast was exposed. The attention it's getting is far more detrimental than the actual event itself. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 3:03am
| lol I still think its funny the right cries about indoctrination when people like FE are homeschooling their kids |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 3:12am
Not everyone on the right feels the same way. I was homeschooled as a kid, and I personally wouldn't homeschool my kid if his life depended on it.
I think that the problem here is that at the left excuses every issue like this as being small or nitpicky and pass it off as whining from the right. Or else compare that issue to a completely unrelated issue to try and make it seem less validated.
But some people feel strongly about small issues like this and that's their right to do so. Nobody's criticized the modern right more than myself, as a conservative I'm tired of being associated with Glenn Beck, Fox News, and far right paranoia.
That being said, everyone still has the right to feel strongly about things that others might disagree with. I see nothing wrong with not wanting your kid singing an anthem of a sitting partisan president.
And besides that, there's a distinct difference between choosing to indoctrinate your child in the ways you believe in, and having your kid indoctrinated with the political idealogies of a total stranger.
It's the same reason prayer doesn't belong in school-we have the right to teach our kids what we want them to believe. If someone doesnt approve of Obama's principles, and there are lots of those people even in the left, then they shouldn't have to deal with the government funded public school shoving his exaltations down their throat. ------------- 
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 8:39am
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^^^^ Well said Stratoaxe.
And as a parent of school age children, I would have a problem with this. Especially the hand movements, a little too sassy for me. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 8:56am
------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: Dunbar
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 8:58am
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I saw this video last night on fox news and quite frankly it scared the crap outta me. This just reminded me of the Hitler youth group. to some this may sound dumb but its probably a safe bet that we might be heading down that someday. ------------- If it's not my problem I'm making it my problem |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 9:02am
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What year is this? 1948? Why are people still afraid that the Nazis are going to take over?
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 9:07am
HAHAHAHAHAHA ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 11:57am
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Can't we just just /thread after stratoaxe? Please?
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 1:38pm
You are the people who shouldn't be allowed to mate/ vote |
Posted By: Malachi Constant
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 1:44pm
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WHARBLGARBL Overblown loloutrage is overblown. |
Posted By: BradNowell
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 2:47pm
Ok why is anyone even discussing this any more. This proves to me that this wasn't some sort of indoctrination, just children celebrating an important day in history!. ------------- "When I travel through mountainous areas or places of questionable hillbilly population, I usually keep a gun in the vehicle" -Da Hui |
Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 12:48pm
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 4:07pm
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 4:09pm
Yep, his kids are being homeschooled. What a way to kill original thought |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 4:14pm
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^I'm scared enough just to know that he has children...
Homeschooling should be illegal imo.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 6:28pm
Why? -------------
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 7:59pm
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Because many here who object to homeschooling only quote the current view of negativity fostered for the convienience and in support of our wonderfull public school system. (that most of out lawmakers do not send thier kids to) Homeschooling is not as bad as the current media portrays it to be, and it is not the fostering ground of right wing nutjobs. Home schooled kids by thier "hippie" parents in the communes of the late 60's and early 70's were all the rage to the left. Now that they are the adults home schooling is not a good thing, and have molded our public schools into the social/economic experiments like they expierienced. And remmember in the public schools we can not grade in red, for it is an oppressive color, a mean thing lowering the self esteme of the graded student who can not fathom failure. -------------
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 8:28pm
 ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: Malachi Constant
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 8:45pm
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 9:13pm
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Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 9:59pm
i'd like to see your source, being as i get graded in red on almost every test/paper ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 9:59pm
Wow.... Lower the dosage a bit. |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 10:02pm
Z0MG 1ST H4ND ACC0UNT4GE!
Edit: just to point it out, I've been to public, private, and homeschooled, I moved around schools quite a bit, so I know what each one is like, can you honestly say the same?
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 27 September 2009 at 1:04am
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Homeschooling isn't healthy. It creates a bubble atmosphere for children, and teaches them escapism instead of coping mechanism that they learn naturally in school. Then when those kids go out in the real world, the coping mechanisms that they would have learned through negative social interaction at the age of, oh, say 9, they learn at 15 or 16. It's a culture schock, I assure you.
I was also mixed education, I did public, private, homeschool, etc, and I can tell you that sheltering your kids is the wrong way to teach them how to deal with life's problems. However, it is the right of the parent to choose what his child is and is not taught, regardless of whether you think he's right or wrong.
For some reason here lately it seems the concept of an opinion has been lost on the American public. My generation in particular is incredibly narcissistic, it's no longer about debating political beliefs in opinion, it's about I'm right you're wrong and I'm going to make your points less valid anyway I can, even if it means personal slander. -------------
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 3:30pm
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I love how everyone is an expert...
So you had a crappy homeschool experience. Wow. good for you, your parents sucked at homeschool, don't feel bad, lots of parents are sorry. I had a crappy public school experience. According to your logic, does that mean I shouldn't send my kids to public school?...
It's a choice, just like the choice of where you apply for a job. My kids are getting a much better education at home than they could at the public schools in my area. They get one on one instruction, every day. They get to travel all over the country to actually SEE what we study. They are members in one of the best homeschool co-ops in the state. They both play read music, and play piano, they both are artists, and can do sculpture, oil, waterbased, as well as chaulk painting and drawing. They are extremely creative, sewing their own outfits for their dolls, and both have just completed their own dollhouses, that they did themselves. They both are accomplished horse riders/drivers as well, My youngest can drive a team of horses, and has been since she was 8. My oldest does cross country, jumping, and dresage. Since they are not in school wasting so many hours each day while the school teaches to the lowest common denomitor. They can focus on stuff that interests them. My oldest daughter writes books, and illustrates them. She also plays paintball with me, as well as goes fishing with me. I don't have to worry about them getting swine flu at school, or getting shot by some wacko, or attacked by some pedaphile, as I know where they are all the time.
This was a free country, where we could do what we wanted without everyone trying to butt into our lives and tell us how we have to live...
Here is something you could try next time you want to bring my choice of homeschooling into a thread.
http://www.secular-homeschooling.com/001/bitter_homeschooler.html - http://www.secular-homeschooling.com/001/bitter_homeschooler.html
If you can read, go to town with that one...
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 3:36pm
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Damn, he came out of his bomb shelter...
However I agree that schools teach to the lowest common denominator, being able to paint doesnt prepare them for normal human interaction. My parents were perfectly fine with the actual teaching. Sorry, but the reason I hated it was the fact that I was forced to live in a hole. How much time do you kids get to spend with friends FE? Friends that THEY picked, not people you think they like, funny thing is that children eventually become people
 and those people may want to be differant from you. Homeschooling shelters children from the real world.Actually, I firmly believe people should exsperiance DIFFERANT typles of schooling. So by my logic, you should let your kids try out private and PUBLIC schooling as well. Let them think for themselves bud.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 3:38pm
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And again, you are telling ME how to raise MY kids... Get your own and screw them up any way you want to. Back off mine! ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 3:39pm
Yeah all those things will certainly get them a great job, and is a great replacement for an actual education. Those are the things you do with them when they're not at school, not instead of school. |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 3:44pm
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 3:46pm
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 3:47pm
Then don't bring them into the argument.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 3:48pm
I didn't bring them into this topic ^ ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 3:53pm
If you arn't comfortable with topics being brought back up on the forum, don't post it in the first place.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 3:58pm
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7 We don't look horrified and start quizzing your kids when we hear they're in public school. Please stop drilling our children like potential oil fields to see if we're doing what you consider an adequate job of homeschooling.
11 Please stop questioning my competency and demanding to see my credentials. I didn't have to complete a course in catering to successfully cook dinner for my family; I don't need a degree in teaching to educate my children. If spending at least twelve years in the kind of chew-it-up-and-spit-it-out educational facility we call public school left me with so little information in my memory banks that I can't teach the basics of an elementary education to my nearest and dearest, maybe there's a reason I'm so reluctant to send my child to school.
16 Don't ask my kid if she wouldn't rather go to school unless you don't mind if I ask your kid if he wouldn't rather stay home and get some sleep now and then.
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 3:59pm
Yeah because the inablitiy to teach completely = sorry parents. Your arrogance is starting to really bleed through FE.
I'd like to say 1 out of every 1000 parents is probably qualified to mediate a child's education from birth to graduation, but then you'd just pick apart my made up fraction to take away form the argument, so I'll abstain.
The fact is not everyone, not matter how uber religious and self-important they may be, is qualified, or can afford to, homeschool. So just because lots of parents take fault with public school, does not mean they are able to, or should, home school their children.
And drawing that ability to the ability to raise children is sheer idiocy.
The abilitiy to sculpture, see the country, paint, draw, ride horses, etc, has nothing to do with quality of education. I'm glad your children are able to enjoy those things, but some of the best musicians were high school drop outs. So again, completely off subject.
I understand the point you're trying to make here, but again quality of life does not = quality of education.
And I think you meant denominator.
They gotta leave the bubble at some point. And statistically they're far more likely to get shot raped or sick outside of school than at it.
See this exemplifies my problem I've had since I've been reading your posts. While you could have simply stopped at saying your children enjoy quality education and lifestyles, you have to throw in smart assery like if you can read, go to town with that one. After reading that, I couldn't give a rat's ass about your link or your point, because you've just shown the same maturity as the people who attacked you.
So far in your rebuttle you've attacked the parents and the education of people you don't know, and then try to elevate yourself intellectually above the lefties on the forum.
That's the problem with modern politics, we've lost the basic idealogy of being the bigger man. And really as a conservative it's my responsibility to work twice as hard to elevate myself aboved the perceived arrogance that my party has been accused of by the left, not walk right into the type cast and smile for a picture.
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 4:04pm
| Strato ftw. |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 4:04pm
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This thread delivers!
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 4:06pm
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Yes, being the bigger man is something to be proud of. Like the way you demeaned me for my posts, and pointed out how you feel I am arrogant...
Way to take the high road. Yeah, right...
MOST of the guys on this board are children, immature, extremely opinionated, and rude, with a hugely biased left winged radical viewpoint. Sorry if I get tired of the same namecalling day after day. I wasn't in this thread until I was lambasted by hooptie and others for homeschooling.
Well, if you besmirch someones character by calling them out. You typically get a response. I figured that is what was wanted, and I will fight for the rights of being able to educate my own kids as I see fit.
I certainly wouldn't want them in the classroom that was worshipping Obama...
As far as being "above" the fray... This is T&O. It is to be expected. ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 4:10pm
-the forum -------------  irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 4:10pm
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Oh, and last year when I had my kids tested with the state tests in academics.
My oldest scored in the top 95% of all kids in our state in both math, and english.
My youngest scored in the top 93% in english, and 90% in math. ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 4:15pm
You're damn right I demeaned you for your posts. And I'm happy to say I was the bigger man in that response-you attacked my parents by drawing the conclusion because they were terrible at home schooling they were sorry parents. I responsed by attacking your post. It's a forum.
And I'm just gonna throw this out there for you while we're on the subject. My dad was a cop, and my mom was the piano player in church. My dad worked two jobs for most of my childhood to provide my mom and I a home, while my mom stayed at home and tried to give me an education to keep me from being exposed to the outside world. They were genuinely outstanding parents who made a bad choice.
So don't preach to me about the high road, you insulted a very particular subject for myself.
And I didn't attack your ability to fight back, I attacked the way you did it.
That's why you fight the system. Conservatives have been practicing escapism for years, choosing to find alternatives instead of changing what's there. Do I think homeschooling is altogether evil? No, I just think in most cases it robs children of important social experience.
That being said, I actually stood up for your right to homeschool in this thread, it's your right to homeschool, own guns, hunt animals, etc etc, but that doesn't mean everyone should do it.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but you're saying because T&O is a raging psycho circus, put on a clown mask? You give up easily. -------------
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 4:15pm
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 4:16pm
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Radical lefties? Really?
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 4:19pm
And you know what, you're probably qualified to home school your kids.
Most people are not. -------------
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 4:22pm
| Scored in the 95% for english every year I was in school. Most every forumer on here knows I can't spell or use proper grammer to save my life, what does that tell you? |
Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 4:35pm
oh. you mean the same qualities you exemplify yourself? -------------
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 28 September 2009 at 8:54pm
Do you understand how incredibly easy it is to get into those percentiles? I don't think I ever had less than 99% in anything. I didn't pay attention to any teacher. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 12:25am
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 7:49am
And you guys realize that if you say you are testing into the top 95 or 99%, you are stating that you are only testing as well as what 95 or 99% are testing in at right? It isn't exactly an accomplishment. ... in fact, 95 or 99% of the people would acheive this.
NB4 "Oh, wait....." ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 8:45am
Standardized test rankings are often reported in percentile, 99th percentile meaning one scored higher than 99% of participants. I'm a product of public school and I too earned 99th percentile rankings on all my standardized tests. I even fell asleep through some of the sections of those tests and woke up with mere minutes to spare; and I still completed the test with ease. They are not a good measure of success. Like the SAT, most standardized tests are logic puzzles. You can solve them with minimal knowledge of the subjects at hand. By the time most people take these tests, it's too late to improve their problem solving abilities. The only thing you can do to improve a person's score is to improve vocabulary (not limited to smart people), and to teach them the tricks that are used to solve the problems. You cannot, however, teach them the required logical skills in any way that is repeatable outside the testing environment. Considering most people don't care to learn what it takes to succeed in a senseless test, it is no surprise that very few people actually do well on these exams. I don't believe anyone who received below a 95th percentile would have earned a passing grade on the test were it scored on a 100 point scale. Some of the complete dumbasses in my school who got 90th to 94th percentile are indications of that. These are people who would only get 60% of the problems correct in our practice tests. ------------- 
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 9:08am
I know this is off-topic from the original source argument, but who in here has a radical left-wing viewpoint? |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 9:12am
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Than they have changed the way they define them since I was in school. When we received our scores, we were ranked oppositely. I.e. you would be ranked in the top 2% of the test scores, or top 5%. Stating that you are in the top 95% doesn't exactly make sense to me. And they must be drastically defining them differently, because in my day, anyone scoring in the top 5% or higher was automatically tested for eligibility into gifted. Apparenty, geniuses abound here. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 10:46am
You don't get it it. 95th percentile does not mean top 95%. It means top 5%. It means you beat 95% of the other test takers. -------------
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 10:49am
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He just uses the word "radical" to validate his ramblings.
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 11:02am
Correction: I oddly enough happen to have a box of crap here that my mother sent me a few months back that I have yet to put away and one of my reports happened to be in there. I guess they were using percentiles as well as stanine scores, it's interesting what you remember and don't. Amazed everyone here is scoring 95% and above considering I was tested into the gifted program and still had a couple of scores that were below 90.... ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 1:33pm
Dunno man. I didn't say percentile but that is what I meant. 99 on pretty much all of them. I got an 1100 on the SAT in 8th grade? I am not trying to say I am a genius, because I am not. So no need to jump and be like OMG 1100 is bad!!!!!! My point is those scores are easy to obtain. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 1:51pm
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Look,... Kids socializing after school...
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/video_derrion_albert - http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/video_derrion_albert
Yes, we can! ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 2:06pm
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FE, shut up. That has nothing to do with anything and happened 3 blocks from the school. DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE. You people wonder why I resort to calling people retards. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 2:12pm
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Yeah, not exactly sure how you can relate the two FE. Is there that much gang banging in your local school district? You look to be pretty rural from the pics of your compound that you have posted in the past. Maybe some extreme cases of cow tipping or sheep molestation, but can't imagine a bunch of inner city gang fights going on... ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 2:46pm
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So as I understamd it, having schools located in warzones does not have an effect on those who actually want out of the worjd of gangs. And yhis kid was just another KIA in the urban wars ehat since it does not affect the majority here can have no corelation to the problem in inner city schools. It is interesting that this story comes out of Chicago, Obama should be far more sensitive to the social economic issues that close to "home". Youth gangs are everywhere, and the wanna-be gang-banger in rural nowhere is more of a threat to the schools and youth, because of the lack of understanding of the locals, and the need for that wanna-be to exagerate his/her importance in the youth community.
There are Crips and Bloods in nowhere Iowa, so it is not just a LA thing anymore. -------------
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 2:50pm
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If the area is a warzone, sorry to say in it is where the school will most likely be. If it isn't there, all the gang kids would be in the school anyway. The gang issue is a completely separate topic to education, and especially separate from "obama youth" and whatever point FE was trying to make. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 2:54pm
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Go to any inner city High School and state that Gang issues are completely seperate from the school problems, and see the response from the faculity, and the parents trying to keep thier kids out of the gangs. What world do you live in?
And I do believe statistically that most hard core gang members from 7-18 have alreafy dropped out, and are not "in school anyway." -------------
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 2:57pm
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It is a separate issue. Gangs can not be fixed with education. Most, not all. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 3:02pm
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Most socialogist's and other experts state that education is the greatest enemy of Gangs. And education as well as a sound social/economic structure to include both parants and a sustem that rewards doing the right thing, instead of fostering the single parent entitlement would greatly reduce gang numbers. That is what my Intro to Education Text stated as I recall. -------------
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 3:07pm
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The problem with FE's post is he is trying to give reasons why his kids are homeschooled other than being shielded from the evil that is secular education. He is trying to make a point of violence existing in public schools and using this story as basis. My point being, that it is a poor comparison considering he lives in the freaking boonies from my impression, similiar where I live, and I can assure you there is no gang violence there. Comparing a rural public school to an inner city gang banging one is ridiculous at best. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 3:59pm
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 7:03pm
Like they're going to admit to it.  -------------
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 7:15pm
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I wonder how the homeschool dynamic plays with the Australian Outback family farms homeschooling/radioschooled. Or the families along the pumping stations of the Alaskan pipeline. Even the smaller cattle ranches in Montana, Idaho, even Nebraska where kids are homeschooled due to financial and travel restrictions.
Lumping homeschooled kids in one catagory is like saying all public school kids are essentially disfunctional based on a flawed grading system. Todays public schools A is probably no better than the C of the late 40's early 50's students. -------------
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 7:16pm
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OS, just because you got a C in school and thought it was hard to do doesn't mean you know as much as everyone getting A's today.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 7:19pm
Hey look, I can play this game too! Home-schooled kid whacks his girlfriend's parents, pleads guilty to murder, gets life. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-06-14-teen-sentenced_x.htm - http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-06-14-teen-sentenced_x.htm Posting irrelevant news articles or social media with only a tenuous and emotional connection to the subject at hand is FUN! http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/42164501.html?dids=42164501:42164501&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Jun+06,+1999&author=JEFF+BARNARD&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=Seemingly+Sheltered+From+Evil,+Oregon+Teens+Face+Murder+Charges;+Crime:+Good+kids+grew+up+in+rural+area+without+telephones,+TV+or+the+Internet--but+with+drugs+and+guns+aplenty,+witnesses+testify+at+pretrial+hearing.&pqatl=google - http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/access/42164501.html?dids=42164501:42164501&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Jun+06,+1999&author=JEFF+BARNARD&pub=Los+Angeles+Times&desc=Seemingly+Sheltered+From+Evil,+Oregon+Teens+Face+Murder+Charges;+Crime:+'Good+kids'+grew+up+in+rural+area+without+telephones,+TV+or+the+Internet--but+with+drugs+and+guns+aplenty,+witnesses+testify+at+pretrial+hearing.&pqatl=google Home school is a school for murder!!!one!!!!11!!!!!eleven!! God, my brain hurts. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 7:24pm
Eh. Regular level classes? Possibly. AP and honors classes? I seriously doubt it. The problem with the grading system today is that it gives the same weight to an A in a basic level class as it does to an A in an AP or honors class. -------------
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 7:39pm
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 29 September 2009 at 8:09pm
Hmmm...didn't want to follow that borked quote from earlier.
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottawa/display.php?id=388397 - http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottawa/display.php?id=388397
http://mywebtimes.com/archives/ottawa/display.php?id=388397 -
http://www.wavenewspapers.com/news/regional/62457917.html - http://www.wavenewspapers.com/news/regional/62457917.html
That was just a casual first page of google.
I could give you hundreds of links where children were violated in some way or another at church.
The moral?
Don't go to church.
EVAR.
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