Attention all Infidels
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Topic: Attention all Infidels
Posted By: Tolgak
Subject: Attention all Infidels
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 11:39pm
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You may think you're hot stuff wearing Infidel t-shirts and whatnot. Guess what? Infidel means one who does not have faith in a single god. Not just the Islamic god Allah, but any sort of god whatsoever. By calling yourself an infidel, you are essentially calling yourself an atheist. Christians aren't infidels. Leave that title to the people who deserve it. ------------- 
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 24 September 2009 at 11:43pm
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Better grab myself an infidel t-shirt.
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 12:11am
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High Voltage wrote:Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 12:16am
What sparked this thread to be posted? 
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Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 12:21am
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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 12:43am
I was looking through various online stores like Opsgear because that's what I do when I'm bored. There are a bunch of shirts that have the word on it. Considering the demographic that would wear this shirt, I did a quick look to find shirts that have "Christian Infidel" in them. It wasn't difficult to find a metric ass-load of these all over the internet. Then, just to be clear before posting my mini-rant, I looked up "infidel." "Christian Infidel" is an oxymoron. Yet, I hear so many people (especially within the uber-conservative population of my school) who I know are Christian nuts that call themselves proud infidels when debating our current conflicts. I'm tired of people being this stupid and just had to comment on it. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 12:46am
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So, why do the Islamic radicals call us WASPs infidels? ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 7:47am
Because you can be called an infidel if you believe in multiple gods. You've got God, Jesus, the Holy Ghost. 3 omnipotent entities, 3 gods. It would make sense for them to call you infidels. However, I don't think you understand the difficulty in translating the words they call us. It's likely that they never use the word "infidel" regarding Christians. It's only what translators like to use because "kafir" is the catch-all term regarding non-islamic people, and we don't have a synonym for it. The word "kafir" is commonly translated to "infidel" (a word with latin roots that translates to "unfaithful"), but the meanings are different. To call someone a kafir is to say they do not believe in a single god OR that Mohammed is a prophet. You're correct in taking the word kafir as both those qualifications have been met. If you want to be stubborn and tell me the Trinity is a single god, then you still meet that second qualification. To call someone an infidel, however, is to call him an atheist or a pagan. By calling yourself an infidel (and wearing it on your clothing) you are proudly proclaiming a lack of faith in the god you believe in. That's a grave sin, correct? -------------
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 8:19am
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pagan. People Against Goodness And Normalcy. Count me in...
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Posted By: Dunbar
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 9:00am
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 10:39am
I know a couple guys with this shirt: ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 9:32pm
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 9:50pm
Of all the lunacy I've read on these boards.....I'm pretty sure this ranks riiiiiight up there. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 25 September 2009 at 11:52pm
They don't, it's not even a word in middle eastern languages and as far as I know, there is no direct translation. They may use "kafir," but it's NOT the same thing. -------------
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 3:13am
Just because you're too slow to understand it, doesn't really make it lunacy. -------------
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 3:24am
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i thought it ment "one not touched by the hand of god" and being that they dont recognize any god but allah that any non muslim would be considered an "infidel".
this coming mostly from the "radicals" these shirts are mostly ment to mock muslims. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: nickman98
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 10:58am
you and me both
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 12:17pm
Remember this little tidbit. It could serve you well in the future. ------------- ? |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 4:00pm
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 4:35pm
There's a difference between understanding and agreeing. For instance, I understand why FE and OS hate Obama, but I disagree with them. -------------
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 26 September 2009 at 6:26pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go&feature=player_embedded#t=36 - Proof they call us infidels.
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