help with fighting...
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Topic: help with fighting...
Posted By: merc
Subject: help with fighting...
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 8:17pm
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so, ive never been in a real fight before...
a guy at work was talking trash saying he could kick my butt so i told him i have 200$ saying i can beat him and take his money... doubt he will show but its going to be an MMA style fight (its for sport more than hate) i basically have a dozen people willing to put money on him so i can win/loose as much as i want... he is 6'2-3" 165lbs im 5'8" 185lbs he can hit me in the face before i can make contact with his body... my plan will be to kick the heck out of his leg and then go for a take down, i know il have him on the ground as i used to wrestle my cousin who is about his size and had no problems... edit: any tips? ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 8:22pm
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Get him to star trash talking. While he's doing that, make a quick jab at his throat with your fist, then continue pummeling him while he's gasping for breath. Also.... CCW |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 8:26pm
 Win.
Just don't rely on brute force alone, use speed but use your brain too. Don't be afraid to be agressive and take a shot, if you get caught dodging blows constantly with no offense of your own, you are done.
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Reb Cpl wrote:Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 8:40pm
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Havnt had a fight in a while. My adivce, keep your hands up and make sure he dont go for your............ ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 8:50pm
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When is this scheduled? ------------- 
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:01pm
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next sunday... im going to do push ups hard core until thursday or so... ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:05pm
Get one of these -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:11pm
| Close your eyes and swing |
Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:20pm
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take his legs out, get on top, proceed with the ground and pound
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:26pm
| sweep the leg |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:29pm
You must hit rock bottom. Beucase once you have lost everything, you are free to do anything.
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Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:29pm
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lol Seriously...
First of all, unless you want your ass taken down before you even have a chance I suggest NOT throwing kicks. Your best bet would be to "dirty box" with him get him a bit flustered by grinding him down. Then you drop for the take down and get a side mount on him and rain down some Elbows. Go watch Some Randy Couture fights. A good example would be Randy vs Sylvia. Work that stradigy. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:31pm
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Smoke moar, fight less.
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Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:34pm
| ^^^ Always a solid alternative |
Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:38pm
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:56pm
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My tip is save yourself the possible humiliation and be the bigger (no pun intended) man.
This whole MMA UFC obsession is obnoxious. Everybody under the sun wants to start kicking asses and become a professional fighter...one of my friends is a black belt and just got into it.
To each his own, but I just find fighting for any reason other than self-defense silly to the third degree. That's just my opinion, and apparently I'm in the minority on this one.
But in any case don't let his size fool you. I'm 6'5" 210 and generally in pretty good body shape, and I have several friends 5'9 5'7 that I'm confident could thoroughly open a can on me. Confidence and experience wins a fight, not size.
And like someone already said, I'd avoid the whole leg kicking idealogy...I can see that leaving you open for a nasty broken nose.
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 9:57pm
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Oh, and if you do fight him, I demand pics / vids. -------------
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 10:14pm
This. ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 10:55pm
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Use the chair.
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 11:10pm
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learn to take a hit. Have your friends hit you a few times. Get that fear of getting hit out of you. Learn to block and more important how to roll with a punch to take some of the energy out of it.
next time don't shoot off your mouth. ------------- 
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 11:10pm
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The trick is to close inside of his reach, you will take one or two hits, but you will be at your power extension. Quick hit on his sternum with palm, not fist, stun him. Then extend arms and strike just under ribcage simultainiously from both sides. He will be grasping for breath, and will begin to wobble. Another palm strike to sternum and he will go to his knees. You will take short stroke punches but inside his extension power will be limited.
Once he is on kness palm strikes on his ears and game over. Standard self defense trick. Understand in a fight you are going to get hit, and it will hurt, the goal is to inflict more pain on your opponant than your opponant inflicts on you. If you let the pain win, your opponant will win. Fighting is in the mind, think, strike at weakness, and your opponant seeing you are taking hits and nothing stops you will rethink his options, you attack, you attack, you attack. Lot of years boxing and self defense work/training. Practice the moves, repeat, practice the moves, repeat...... ------------- 
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 11:30pm
| ^If this isnt a serious fight, I dont recommend the palm strikes to his ears, it'll rupture his ear drums. Extreamily effective, but I'm thinking its overkill in this situation. |
Posted By: nickman98
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 11:45pm
no no. completely called for. no one will bother him again if he ruptures this guys eardrums.
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Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 15 October 2009 at 11:56pm
might as well punch him a few times in the throat if your going to do that. ruptured eardrums and a collapsed windpipe. -------------
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 12:26am
Just make sure you finish it with style...
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 12:28am
| FINISH HIM! |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 1:11am
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Just remember, every guy has a pair of eyes, a throat, and testicles, and he can't block all three at once. (I get dirty, holmes.) ------------- 
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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 1:58am
Hah! ------------- 
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 6:21am
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this is a fight for sport not defense...
if it was for defense i would kick him in the groin or shoot him... ive seen him messing around with other guys and he will submit easy as hell, where as im stubborn as hell and will have to be KOed... ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 7:35am
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 7:46am
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Do you know any submissions?
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 8:33am
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First fight... You are toast.
Seriously, no one wins their first fight. Fighting is like anything else, you need practice, if this guy has even mediocre fighting experience he will clean the floor with you. Nothing someone tells you on the internet will build muscle memory that is needed in a fight. You have to be able to react, instantly (without thinking) when presented with situations. If you don't have the experience for your body to know what to do. You will get destroyed.
Kiss and make up before you get whooped.
Trust me. I've been in countless fights over the years. It takes years of beatings to get to the point where you can handle yourself in a fight. Doing push ups for a week isn't going to prepare you for anything except getting up after you get dropped.
Which reminds me of a story, (for olds benefit, I will try to name drop as well to further the dig).
My sister worked at Carloco studios in Wilmington when I was in high school. And I used to go down there on the Fridays and go back home Sunday nights to Raleigh. Well, there is this bar at wilmington beach next to the pier that is a local hang out, and since I was under 18 and couldn't go inside, my friends and I would sit outside and watch the fun. Every single night there would be a fight.
One night we heard shouting when this HUGE guy came out of the bar, with this little guy behind him. Evidently the little guy had hit on big guys girl... Big guy had a chip on his shoulder and was ready to show little guy some pain.
Oh, I forgot to mention, little guy was a marine, with a serious case of little guy rage.
Big guy had had quite a few drinks, or he was just slow, because as soon as he turned to "start" the fight. Little guy clobbered him with both fists haymaker style. It was awesome, but big guy took it. He grabbed little guy and little guy went with his pull and pushed him as hard as he could and big guy started staggering towards the cars. Little guy kept pushing him and big guy went headfirst into front of parked truck, busting a nice hole in the grill of the truck.
By this time crowd was gathering. And we were on the front row. Big guy got up, face starting to bleed, as little guy started just punching him in the face, and stomach, over and over. Big guy finally connected with a punch to little guys face and that seemed to set little guy off. He did some fancy karate kick to big guys face and as he fell, he was already jumping on top and pummling him in the face over and over until big guys girlfriend started shrieking.
Big guy was done, out cold, and bleeding. Little guy got up and left, cops arrived.
The next day I saw Julia Roberts entering the bar/restraunt across the street. The owner of the bar/restraunt took her picture and I would imagine it is still on the wall today. She was in town filming "sleeping with the enemy". Other interesting facts, they built that house just for the movie, and tore it down when filming was completed, as it is against the law to build a house that close to the water there.
And, speaking of movies. Go see "where the wild things are". By one of my biking friends Spike Jones.
Poke, jab  ------------- They tremble at my name... 
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 9:27am
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Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 9:38am
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lead with you left and jab with it, step into your punches with your right, good luck, beat on a heavy bag for the next week to build up your power/strength of your jabs and punches.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 9:39am
exactly, wrestling is good to for muscle memory, as it teaches you what to do when faced with mulitple situations. If you wrestled than it wasn't your "first" time.
I'm sure there are lots of people that HAVE won a first fight, I was just making a generalization. ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 10:24am
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 10:30am
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If you're doing pushups, stop now. The last thing you need are fatigued muscles that you're going to need. 80% or more fights end up on the ground. This guy is going to have reach advantage over you right away. My advice, get in close as soon as you can and try to take it to the ground. That way, you nullify his reach advantage and even up the fight. Just pray he doesn't have any wrestling background. -------------
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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 10:49am
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Watch your chin. Everyone always thinks that they can take a hit until they take one to the jaw. It hurts like hell, and if you don't hold you're head firm when you are getting hit, you could end up falling to the floor and looking at the sky.
Keep hands up and in front of you. And since you have a size issue, I would learn a few holds and submissions. Easiest are the choke hold and guillotine. The latter being the best defense if he tries to tackle you. And I'd stay away from kicks. If you don't know what you are doing, you'll end up hurting your own leg more than his. ------------- 
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Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 11:01am
 I'm just gonna leave this here. |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 11:11am
 I'd have never guessed that.
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Posted By: Uncle Rudder
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 11:21am
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If there's one thing I've learned in the last 4 years, it's that if you follow the "rules" in a bar fight, you lose. ------------- 
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 12:43pm
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Posted By: God
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 1:19pm
| Are you the member that applied for some law enforcement position or am I thinking of someone else? |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 2:51pm
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probably someone else...im looking at AUX PD in january though ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 2:54pm
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Go get beat in fights until the fight date ------------- 
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 7:31pm
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Long time ago, I was on leave in Oneonta. Went to the local bar for a pitcher and amatuer band night. Some of the local football types were greabbing girls from thier dates and dancing while Joe College guy just sat there. In one of thier forays one of the football types knocked my table spilling my pitcher, made mistake one by saying, Sorry old man, and laughed his way to thier table. I stood up calmly hung my jacket on the chair and approached the table they were at. They stated "go sit down old man" and continued laughing. Then I gave my little speach: "Gentleman I have had my ass beat numerous times and I kind of like it, now you must understand two of you are going to the hospital, now comes the decsion you must make.....which two" and then in typical Airborne Ranger style I took down the largest one with a kick out, temple pop, spun on number two and landed the sternum punch...and after that don't remmember much, but I ended up standing with four college football types laying on the floor. Age and decietfullness outweighs youth ahd ehthusiazum everytime. The locals had no problem with what I did since these four have been a problem in the past, so I got the gig as door bouncer for drinks and meals for the remainder of my leave. Never saw the four again.
In Nebraska I was employed as a bouncer and dancer escort at a strip club part time for two years, kept the locals at bay, and escorted the dancers to thier cars after closing. Was fun now and then when drunks actually thought they were Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris. I boxed PAL for years in my youth, and taught hand to hand fighting techniques for years in the army. Once you understand pain, and how to take the punch and deal with the pain, all else is easy. Once Joe Bully finds out you are now a "hard target" he will move on to easier victims. -------------
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 9:14pm
So your real name is Patrick Swayze? Didn't you die? ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 9:50pm
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Being a bouncer was fun. People watching is what comedy is made of, beer, naked women and farmers, a combination that leads to many humorous stories.
I still work out with heavy bag, and speed bag, local boxing club needs a southpaw instructor and I am looking at it as a part time something to do gig. My famous move was the "accidental" toe step where I would step on a righty's fore foot, preventing him from backing up, and a few double taps before ref broke us up. Was bouncing before "Roadhouse" came out. -------------
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Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 16 October 2009 at 11:05pm
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lol at the old people telling stories of how bad ass they use to be fighting in bars. ------------- I ♣ hippies. |
Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 17 October 2009 at 10:03am
| lol at people scheduling fights. I've never really understood that. If im going to get into a fight its caused im upset right then and there. Not next thursday when everybodies planners clear up. Even with close friends, if your gotta fight, u gotta fight, why wait till next week? |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 17 October 2009 at 10:23am
I'd much prefer to give it some time and let people calm down, maybe make a rational decision or two. Then again I don't really care to fight or ever have the need to. What you don't do is schedule a fight for the same day just later on, then harass the other person via text messages and calls until you catch a ride out to fight. I didn't get to see my old friend Stephen get his ass kicked, but I heard after he sucker punched some dude, dude's cousin (bouncer) finished the fight in record time. Had he stayed off his phone and not acted out the bouncer wouldn't have been there. -------------
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Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 17 October 2009 at 11:02am
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So scheduling a fight is rational?
"i'll fight you next week, I just need some time to calm down" Would that be how it goes?
If ur gonna fight, then fight! Why wait for people to build up numbers and have an all out brawl?
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Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 17 October 2009 at 12:18pm
I think you're right there. But didn't he say it was more for sport than anything else? And pretty much all the fights I've been in have been bar brawls/ street riots. They're more fun. |
Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 17 October 2009 at 2:23pm
| yeah, they said it was just a bet of who could kick whos ass...winner gets 200 bucks if i remember right. so its more of an amateur ufc type deal than anything else. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 17 October 2009 at 3:57pm
He said he'd rather not fight period, so yeah. That would be how it goes. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: pathfinder82
Date Posted: 17 October 2009 at 6:45pm
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Id suggest that you look up Krav Maga and study that alittle bit. It's never failed me before in any fight. But if you dont attack the places that are going to hurt him the most like knee's, nose, groin if you have to. Just look at it as if your fighting for your life and you will win every time. hope that helped and good luck :) ------------- Who Dares Wins |