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Topic: Only in Texas
Posted By: Gator Taco
Subject: Only in Texas
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 1:26am
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/strange/news-article.aspx?storyid=147230&catid=82 - Women ticket for not speaking English

Um.... Confused


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Posted By: impulse!!
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 1:49am
'Merica

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Posted By: Peter Parker
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 3:15am
Those comments in the article are pure win.

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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 4:48am
thats how it should be... knowing many immigrants from dozens of other countries. everyone i have met learns english and is pissed that (some) mexicans dont...

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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 4:51am
Op should be fined for butchering the Queens english in the link.


Posted By: Peter Parker
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 10:42am
Originally posted by merc merc wrote:

thats how it should be... knowing many immigrants from dozens of other countries. everyone i have met learns english and is pissed that (some) mexicans dont...
 
So when are we going to require Southerners to learn to speak English?


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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 10:59am
Hey, I'll have y'all know that I spee-uhk flooooent Eeeenglish az uh second langwage; thanks ya'll verrry much.*






*Mack's lesson of the day; It's really  hard to type in a bad southern accent.


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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 11:16am
Originally posted by Peter Parker Peter Parker wrote:

Originally posted by merc merc wrote:

thats how it should be... knowing many immigrants from dozens of other countries. everyone i have met learns english and is pissed that (some) mexicans dont...

 

So when are we going to require Southerners to learn to speak English?


Zing.

I do think if you're going to be in a country that has a predominate language, you should learn to speak it. For your own benefit, really.

Just for instance since I switched to a much smaller hospital, we have very few Spanish speaking employees. There are however a ton of illegal immigrants in this area, and they get really pissy and frustrated when we don't understand their language. I can see how that could be a dilemma, learning improv sign language whilst having a heart attack can't be pleasant, but dammit it's your right to speak your native tongue, so enjoy.



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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 11:38am
Originally posted by merc merc wrote:

thats how it should be... knowing many immigrants from dozens of other countries. everyone i have met learns english and is pissed that (some) mexicans dont...





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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 11:47am
@strato

I've had people get mad at me for not speaking their native tongue while dealing with them as a pt. I'm not going to lose any sleep at night that you came here, legally or not, and expect me to learn your language to help you, but you can't speak my language to help yourself.


Speak whatever language you want, but damnit if you get mad at someone who speaks the primary language of the country you're living in, and you can't / won't.




As for the ticket? My view of Dallas' chief of police aside, the wrong was corrected. If there is something deeper to it, then fix that too.   But the law is there for commercial drivers, no reason it shouldn't be there for, within reason, civilian drivers as well. While many signs do have "fool-proof" signage so that you really don't need to speak English to understand what's going on, there are the exceptions.

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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 2:03pm
I agree if your permanent address is in a country, you should learn their primary language. I agree 100%.

However, ticketing someone for not.....retarded....


Posted By: Dunbar
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 2:12pm

My honest opinion is that if you want to live here permanantly and your from a country whose common language is not english I think you should have to be required to learn english.



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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 2:13pm
LULz.

Totally pushing for this law to actually exist. -_-


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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 3:56pm
Strange how in one thread it can be Libertarianism dominating the thread, but a day or two later most people are advocating the government control how we speak.

I agree that one should learn to communicate with the people around them for their own benefit, but requiring them to do so because it is an inconvenience to some is silly.

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Posted By: diablomotoracing
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 4:36pm
the funny thing is that in Mexico, schools require you to take English classes... same as us in the U.S. we are required to take a second language ... the only sad thing is Schooling in Mexico is not free like here in the free world... so less and less people go to school and learn... if you think about it hard enough you can see how nice we have it here...

I am Hispanic and hate how "SOME" immigrants come here to get a free ride while others struggle just like anyone else...

but in all cultures there are the lazy ones and the hard working ones...


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Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 4:47pm
En Espanol, oprimo dos!

Por que tu no comprende Espanol? No es dificil. Es facil de aprender. Es similar a Ingles.


but then I've also taken a few Latin classes which makes it a bit easier for me I guess.


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Posted By: Peter Parker
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 5:28pm
Originally posted by Dunbar Dunbar wrote:

My honest opinion is that if you want to live here permanantly and your from a country whose common language is not english I think you should have to be required to learn english.

 
What if I was born an American citizen but grew up abroad and don't speak English? 
 
What if I am an American who wants to bring my non-English-speaking husband/wife home to live with me in the states?
 


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Posted By: God
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 5:35pm
Or what if I am born deaf and cant understand or speak any spoken languages?.....


Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 5:41pm
Originally posted by ctchofday ctchofday wrote:

En Espanol, oprimo dos!

Por que tu no comprende Espanol? No es dificil. Es facil de aprender. Es similar a Ingles.


but then I've also taken a few Latin classes which makes it a bit easier for me I guess.

Funny enough  I was able to perfectly understand that from my knowledge of French.


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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 6:26pm
Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:


"AH AIN'T PRESSIN NO GATT-DAMN ONE GATT DAMNIT."


Don't forget:  "There takin ur jerrrrbs!"

Originally posted by Peter Parker Peter Parker wrote:

What if I was born an American citizen but grew up abroad and don't speak English?


Then it serves you right.*

Originally posted by God God wrote:

Or what if I am born deaf and cant understand or speak any spoken languages?.....


Then I will most likely taunt you unmercifully since I know it will be safe.**

And now for something completely different . . .

. . . a serious opinion on this specific subject:  This usage of the law in question was asinine.  However, as people have pointed out above.  If someone doesn't want to learn the language while living here, that's fine.  However, they have no right to get annoyed when they fail to get their point across.

*For being a liberal.  (Everyone knows only liberals are raised abroad; their parents think the Europeans are a good influence.)
**I will of course keep a hand over my mouth on the off chance you can lip read.



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Posted By: diablomotoracing
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 8:15pm
everything is What if...

what if my child is a ratard?

what if i'm a ratard...

people try to get things easier by stating what if question...

what if I dont give a damn????


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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 8:24pm
Love it or leave it. We won this place fair and square. :)

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 8:26pm
You clearly are a ratard.

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Que pasa?




Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 8:41pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

You clearly are a ratard.
Yay for namecalling!
 
Originally posted by dude who commented on the link dude who commented on the link wrote:

]I'm waiting for the day we get pulled over by someone who doesn't speak English...
QFT


Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 27 October 2009 at 8:44pm
Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

You clearly are a ratard.
yay for namecalling!


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Posted By: Dunbar
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 2:11pm
Originally posted by diablomotoracing diablomotoracing wrote:

everything is What if...

what if my child is a ratard?

what if i'm a ratard...

people try to get things easier by stating what if question...

what if I dont give a damn????
Agreed

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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 2:48pm
When I've traveled abroad it has been with no expectation that the natives will speak English. If they do, great, but I know that I must make every effort to communicate in their language.

Some situations can be dangerous for drivers who don't speak English, such as signs that aren't reliant on their shape. "Left turn yield on green" for instance. While reasonably safe on the roads, it would be wise to ensure that any common sign can be read in English as part of the test for your license.

A ticket for not speaking the language is a little silly, and is being used to manifest displeasure over another matter entirely.

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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 6:58pm
I see languages in a purely Adam Smith sort of way.

They should be totally free and unrestricted, let the free language market take care of it.

That, or if all you folks declaring that English should be the mandated, legal only-language would like to pony over some extra taxes to fund more free language courses for adults, that would work too.


Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 28 October 2009 at 7:09pm
Originally posted by diablomotoracing diablomotoracing wrote:

everything is What if...what if my child is a ratard?what if i'm a ratard...people try to get things easier by stating what if question...what if I dont give a damn????
Ratard eh?



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