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Topic: Another driving pet peeve......
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Subject: Another driving pet peeve......
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 8:14pm
For those of you keeping track, I think this is #37.

I absolutely HATE those SOB's who will come up behind me while I'm in the left lane and flash their lights at me to get me to move. It earns them

First of all, I'm not ever the slowpoke riding the left lane at 50. I'm either at or above speed. I generally hover between 65 and 75 on posted 65 highways.

Secondly, I'm only in the left lane if I'm passing, or getting ready to pass someone.

I've noticed this happens mostly when I'm in the midst of passing, and I happen to not be doing it quick enough for the moron who's coming up behind me. If you flash your lights, I WILL slow down, and I WILL take 8 miles to pass the guy that I was about to go by before you started being a jerk.

Tonight was a classic example. I'd passed a truck that was in the right lane, and was closing on a Suburban that was still in the left lane getting ready to pass the car that was in front of the truck I'd just passed. Up comes this minivan behind me at about 85 and the lights start flashing. That's normally enough to piss me off, but add to the fact that I've got a sleeping 7 month old baby in the back seat of a toyota corolla- and you've got high beams flashing him in the face now. Where the hell was I supposed to go? I stayed in the left lane because I wasn't going to get stuck directly in front of the truck I'd just passed. As soon as she could, this moron in the van slams into the left lane and pulls up next to me screaming obscenities at my closed passenger window....Little did she realize that she WASNT the only person on the road, and now she's caught behind the very guy I was trying to pass.

Unless you're in an emergency vehicle, nothing you're doing can be important enough for you to be enough of a D-bag to flash your lights at me. You are NOT important, and I will not move from a perfectly legitimate traffic position to suit your ass.




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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 8:19pm
If you are passing the guy and only going 1 or 2mph faster than him, that doesn't count. 

Also, I heard or read this recently.  Ever notice how if someone is going slower than you they are a slowpoke jerk* and if they are going faster than you they are a crazy lunatic*?

*Obviously not the word choice when I am on the road.


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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 8:24pm
Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

If you are passing the guy and only going 1 or 2mph faster than him, that doesn't count. 



Who does that at all? If I'm passing someone, I try to do it as quickly as possible without going stupid fast. Even if I am going 1 or 2 miles faster than him, you flicking your damn lights at me sure as hell isn't going to make me go faster.


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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 8:30pm
if you are in the left lane, going 1-2 faster than the guy to the right, and you refuse to speed up or move over for the guy going way faster than you, then you are one of the biggest dbags on the road.  You are not a cop, you are not there to enforce traffic laws.

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Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 8:34pm
^truth. the left lane is the 10mph+ over the speed limit zone

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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 8:37pm
Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

if you are in the left lane, going 1-2 faster than the guy to the right, and you refuse to speed up or move over for the guy going way faster than you, then you are one of the biggest dbags on the road.  You are not a cop, you are not there to enforce traffic laws.


So, if I'm driving along in the right lane with my cruise control set at 70, and catch up to a guy that's going only slightly slower than that (physics dictates that I WILL catch him eventually)- then I swing into the left lane to pass him, and some moron comes up behind me at 80-85, then I should speed up, potentially risking a speeding ticket- just so he can get by faster? I'm already technically speeding, but I should push the envelope for anyone who feels like getting on my rear bumper? I think not sonny boy.

Generally, I do speed up if I'm caught in front of someone- but as soon as you demonstrate that you've got no patience and start flicking your lights, I will not only NOT speed up, but it'll take me that much longer to pass the guy in the first place.

I don't go out of my way to be a jerk on the road....all of my jerk-like tendencies are reactionary.


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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 8:39pm
Originally posted by slackerr26 slackerr26 wrote:

^truth. the left lane is the 10mph+ over the speed limit zone


Spoken like someone who will eventually need the jaws of life to pry them from a highly customized piece of scrap metal that used to be a car.




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Posted By: impulse!!
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 8:52pm
Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:


Also, I heard or read this recently.  Ever notice how if someone is going slower than you they are a slowpoke jerk* and if they are going faster than you they are a crazy lunatic*?




RIP George Carlin


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 8:53pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by slackerr26 slackerr26 wrote:

^truth. the left lane is the 10mph+ over the speed limit zone


Spoken like someone who will eventually need the jaws of life to pry them from a highly customized piece of scrap metal that used to be a car.




Except he is correct. If you are in the left lane and not doing at least 75(65 limit) you are going to slow.

I will agree with you on the flashing lights. Sometimes I will be driving 80-85 and some idiot flashes me. They are now going 70. They are not passing me on the right, because I have no issue speeding back up to my original speed to not allow it.

You shouldn't be in the left lane with a 7 month old baby in the car. Also, is this a 3 lane highway? A 2 lane and you may have a point on the passing slow thing.


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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 8:58pm
Really, Jmac?

There's not some sort of law that you must be doing 10 miles per hour over the speed limit to be in the left lane.

It's the passing lane.  If you're not passing, get out.  You should be passing at a reasonable pace, not just sitting there, yes, and frankly I couldn't care less if someone comes up behind me flashing their lights, I'll drive however I was driving.

If you're going to say he shouldn't be in the left lane with a 7-month old in the car, then he just as well shouldn't be on the road.  That logic is a road to idiocy.


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 9:05pm
Unwritten rules of the road my friend. Obviously it was a law the speed limit wouldn't be 65 for the whole highway...

No he shouldn't be in the left lane with a 7 month old. Not because of the way he drives, but because of other people. I drive normal(fast but normal) and am appalled by some of the nonsense I see occuring.

If I had a baby in the car I would never leave the right lane.


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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 9:07pm
Originally posted by ParielIsBack ParielIsBack wrote:

Really, Jmac?

There's not some sort of law that you must be doing 10 miles per hour over the speed limit to be in the left lane.

It's the passing lane.  If you're not passing, get out.  You should be passing at a reasonable pace, not just sitting there, yes, and frankly I couldn't care less if someone comes up behind me flashing their lights, I'll drive however I was driving.

If you're going to say he shouldn't be in the left lane with a 7-month old in the car, then he just as well shouldn't be on the road.  That logic is a road to idiocy.
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 9:08pm
Come to Texas. We have the nicest drivers on the road. I have never had people flash their lights at me in the left lane and I set cruise control at 5 above.


Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 9:10pm
Originally posted by RoboCop RoboCop wrote:

Come to Texas. We have the nicest drivers on the road. I have never had people flash their lights at me in the left lane and I set cruise control at 5 above.


I was in Texas for one week. I was in the Austin/Ft. Hood area. This made me agree with this statement. Seriously I was shocked by how courteous drivers seemed just on every road.


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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 9:22pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

if you are in the left lane, going 1-2 faster than the guy to the right, and you refuse to speed up or move over for the guy going way faster than you, then you are one of the biggest dbags on the road.  You are not a cop, you are not there to enforce traffic laws.


So, if I'm driving along in the right lane with my cruise control set at 70, and catch up to a guy that's going only slightly slower than that (physics dictates that I WILL catch him eventually)- then I swing into the left lane to pass him, and some moron comes up behind me at 80-85, then I should speed up, potentially risking a speeding ticket- just so he can get by faster? I'm already technically speeding, but I should push the envelope for anyone who feels like getting on my rear bumper? I think not sonny boy.




No, I do not expect you to speed up to an unsafe speed, I expect you to watch your mirrors before you move over to pass, or slow down and move right to let the faster driver pass.  If someone is going 15mph faster than you in the lane to your left, and you move left to pass the guy in front of you, chances are you cut off the person behind you in the first place and I can understand why he would bright you.  sonny boy.


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Posted By: impulse!!
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 9:26pm
Originally posted by RoboCop RoboCop wrote:

Come to Texas. We have the nicest drivers on the road. I have never had people flash their lights at me in the left lane and I set cruise control at 5 above.


You guys don't do the texas wave anymore?


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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 9:32pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Unwritten rules of the road my friend. Obviously it was a law the speed limit wouldn't be 65 for the whole highway...

No he shouldn't be in the left lane with a 7 month old. Not because of the way he drives, but because of other people. I drive normal(fast but normal) and am appalled by some of the nonsense I see occuring.

If I had a baby in the car I would never leave the right lane.


So....essentially, I'm not only wrong, I'm also a bad parent because I'm not a paranoid driver. Thank you jmac.




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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:



 If someone is going 15mph faster than you in the lane to your left, and you move left to pass the guy in front of you, chances are you cut off the person behind you in the first place and I can understand why he would bright you. 


You assume that every time someone comes up behind me too fast that I cut them off?

Ugh.

No.

Just because someone comes up behind me faster than they should be driving doesn't mean that I cut them off in traffic....especially if I'm doing 70- that means he's doing 85.


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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 9:42pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:



 If someone is going 15mph faster than you in the lane to your left, and you move left to pass the guy in front of you, chances are you cut off the person behind you in the first place and I can understand why he would bright you. 


You assume that every time someone comes up behind me too fast that I cut them off?

Ugh.

No.

Just because someone comes up behind me faster than they should be driving doesn't mean that I cut them off in traffic....especially if I'm doing 70- that means he's doing 85.


Yes, because "chances are" = "everytime".  chill out.


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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 9:45pm
You're the one that made it sound like it happens more times than it doesn't.

Choose your words more carefully then.


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Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 9:51pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:



 If someone is going 15mph faster than you in the lane to your left, and you move left to pass the guy in front of you, chances are you cut off the person behind you in the first place and I can understand why he would bright you. 


You assume that every time someone comes up behind me too fast that I cut them off?

Ugh.

No.

Just because someone comes up behind me faster than they should be driving doesn't mean that I cut them off in traffic....especially if I'm doing 70- that means he's doing 85.


but at the same time, if nobody is in your mirror, you shouldnt be taking the amount of time it takes said person to catch you to pass the person going slower than you


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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 9:52pm
Most of the time it has nothing to do with speed limits. In Florida it says in the driver's handbook that you must keep up/slow down with the traffic. This means that if the speed posted is 65 and if everyone is doing 70-75 you must be doing 70-75 too. If you are passing somebody you have to speed up to pass then slip back. Also, since its mostly a 10-lane highway, the left lane is unofficially called the "fast lane."


EDIT: and of course if you are going 85+ in a 65 then you should get pulled over because chances are, none else is going at that speed.


Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 9:59pm
Thats just it Rofl......rate of traffic is generally 70-75. No problem. 80-90 is where these guys get behind people like me and get annoyed because I'm not going far enough above the speed limit to suit their needs. Basically, I'm not braking the law enough for them to be happy, and according to some.....they're right.

No wonder its no fun to drive anymore.


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 10:02pm
Reb, I didn't say you're a bad parent.

I said you shouldn't be in the left lane.


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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 10:19pm
You can tell who the young drivers are.

Reb and pariell are right.


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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 10:24pm

I hope you guys know that 10  MPH rule is a total crock. You'll get a 0-10 ticket.

 
And not all Texas drivers are good...we have our share of weiner jockeys as well.


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Posted By: pntbl freak
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 10:30pm
As long as your passing someone at a decent speed in the left lane, I see no problem.  I hate the people that sit there in the left lane going 1 mph faster than the right lane.

One of my pet peeves is when your driving 75pmh and you catch someone in the right lane doing about 70.  You move over to left lane to pass and they speed up.  Here I was catching you doing 75 or so and now Im struggling to pass you doing 80.


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 10:30pm
Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

I hope you guys know that 10  MPH rule is a total crock. You'll get a 0-10 ticket.

 
And not all Texas drivers are good...we have our share of weiner jockeys as well.


Anyone that believes it is a real law is retarded....it is still over the speed limit.


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Posted By: pntbl freak
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 10:32pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

I hope you guys know that 10  MPH rule is a total crock. You'll get a 0-10 ticket.

 
And not all Texas drivers are good...we have our share of weiner jockeys as well.


Anyone that believes it is a real law is retarded....it is still over the speed limit.


I dont see how anyone can think that is a real law.  My friend got a ticket for going 4 over.  It happens but its ridiculous.


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Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 10:48pm
i dont know a single person who has gotten a ticket for anything less than 10 over, and i know some terrible drivers. i know of people who have gotten there tickets bumped down to 5-10 mph over the limit. not saying it cant happen. just uncommon

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Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 10:48pm
Originally posted by pntbl freak pntbl freak wrote:


One of my pet peeves is when your driving 75pmh and you catch someone in the right lane doing about 70.  You move over to left lane to pass and they speed up.  Here I was catching you doing 75 or so and now Im struggling to pass you doing 80.


I do this for fun. Embarrassed I even go as far as to pace them a little while. I probably shouldnt but I get such a kick out of it.

0o0o I also like to do this on 3 lane highways with 2 lanes going the same way. When someone comes flying up behind me I immediately speed up, get over and pace the person that was in front of me so the other person can't pass. This often leads to me getting stuck behind someone doing 35. So it all works out eventually.


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Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 10:52pm
Whenever someone flies by and cuts me off I like to try and get in front of them and block them behind me and another slow moving car. Gotta watch who I do it to though because I don't wan't to get shot.

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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 11:10pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by RoboCop RoboCop wrote:

Come to Texas. We have the nicest drivers on the road. I have never had people flash their lights at me in the left lane and I set cruise control at 5 above.


I was in Texas for one week. I was in the Austin/Ft. Hood area. This made me agree with this statement. Seriously I was shocked by how courteous drivers seemed just on every road.
It's no joke. I could be sitting at a stop sign letting the other person go first, but they insist I go first, but then they insist again for me to go first. It kind of makes you mad that your courtesy is rejected, but everyone is so nice. Sure there are a lot of mean drivers in Texas, but compared to everywhere else I go, we are really nice.

Oh and for people that think cops don't pull over for less than 10, I saw someone get pulled over for 3 over. A cop was right behind a car in front of me to the right and I was following at the same pace, but back a little and he got pulled over. Complete BS.


Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 11:13pm
Originally posted by RoboCop RoboCop wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by RoboCop RoboCop wrote:

Come to Texas. We have the nicest drivers on the road. I have never had people flash their lights at me in the left lane and I set cruise control at 5 above.


I was in Texas for one week. I was in the Austin/Ft. Hood area. This made me agree with this statement. Seriously I was shocked by how courteous drivers seemed just on every road.
It's no joke. I could be sitting at a stop sign letting the other person go first, but they insist I go first, but then they insist again for me to go first. It kind of makes you mad that your courtesy is rejected, but everyone is so nice. Sure there are a lot of mean drivers in Texas, but compared to everywhere else I go, we are really nice.



People do that here, but that's just because they don't know the actual order. 


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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 11:28pm

The justice of the peace in the town I grew up in got stopped out in rio vista and received a ticket for 1 mph over. 1 mph, no lie. There are small towns in TX where you don't go 1 mile too slow or too fast.



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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 22 November 2009 at 11:44pm
Reb, are you living down around Middletown now? Or still up there in the boonies where the only thing worth mentioning is the Pepsi Arena?

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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 2:46am
Boston drivers are hilariously terrible. The state of Massachusetts in general should have its roads only for the exclusive use of interstate travel for nonresidents.


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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 2:56am
Over in New York, do you get Dbags that drive SUV's with their headlights off, and their foglights on instead?

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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 4:14am
Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

Over in New York, do you get Dbags that drive SUV's with their headlights off, and their foglights on instead?


When I actually have my jeep, I leave my fog lights on all the time, and have the main lights set to auto.


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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 6:03am
Originally posted by Frozen Balls Frozen Balls wrote:

Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

Over in New York, do you get Dbags that drive SUV's with their headlights off, and their foglights on instead?


When I actually have my jeep, I leave my fog lights on all the time, and have the main lights set to auto.


I'm talking about people that drive around at night, with only their fog lights on.


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Posted By: Flurry
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 6:29am
The fog light thing happens everywhere.  it's a pain in the .....

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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 6:53am
Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Reb, are you living down around Middletown now? Or still up there in the boonies where the only thing worth mentioning is the Pepsi Arena?


Middletown is right down where my wife used to live in Harriman.

No, right now we're up in the 'boonies' much, much closer to the pepsi arena than we were last year.


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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:46am
Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

Originally posted by Frozen Balls Frozen Balls wrote:

Originally posted by The Guy The Guy wrote:

Over in New York, do you get Dbags that drive SUV's with their headlights off, and their foglights on instead?


When I actually have my jeep, I leave my fog lights on all the time, and have the main lights set to auto.


I'm talking about people that drive around at night, with only their fog lights on.
 
You could never live in minot if that bothers you.


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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 11:01am
I can't for the life of me remember the city, but it made the news a couple of years ago for hiring garbage trucks to drive around at the speed limit to keep traffic going at that speed.

Anyhow, going as fast as, or a few miles an hour faster than traffic is fine, and generally pretty safe. Going much faster, ten to fifteen miles an hour faster, is asking for trouble. It's reckless and not only are you risking your own life, but those around you as well.

It's irresponsible to say that they should get out of your way because you "need" to go faster. You don't need to, and just because you want to does not give you the right to endanger others. Everybody seems to think they're a good driver, but every little bit you speed up allows a little bit less of a margin for error.

I like to stay away from statements like this, but I'm going to say it anyway. If you're younger, you'll just have to trust the older folks here that you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to risk assessment. It's nothing personal. It's just a matter of practical experience, and it varies by the person and etc. etc...

Unofficial rules and personal justification of behavior do not a traffic law make. It's pretty safe to guess that most people break the strict letter of the law at some point in their driving life, and it's just self-entitlement to think that any of us are right for doing so in most cases, emergencies excepted.

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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 11:14am
The problem is, there are too many Dbags cruising along in the left hand lane going the speed limit or 5 miles above, that when you come up on someone that is truly passing, it's hard to distinguish. Can't count the number of times I have come up on someone, usually a young girl driving alone and talking on the phone, who is going 66miles an hour and no more, with no one in the right lane and not a clue in the world. Left lane is for passing and/or faster traffic.

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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 11:29am
Originally posted by slackerr26 slackerr26 wrote:

i dont know a single person who has gotten a ticket for anything less than 10 over
Then you haven't met any anal-retentive cops short on time to fill their ticket quota yet...


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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 11:32am
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:


Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Reb, are you living down around Middletown now? Or still up there in the boonies where the only thing worth mentioning is the Pepsi Arena?
Middletown is right down where my wife used to live in Harriman. No, right now we're up in the 'boonies' much, much closer to the pepsi arena than we were last year.


Well, that explains it. You need to move someplace nice. Like Rhinebeck or Kingstown and you'll be fine!

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Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 2:25pm
Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

Originally posted by slackerr26 slackerr26 wrote:

i dont know a single person who has gotten a ticket for anything less than 10 over
Then you haven't met any anal-retentive cops short on time to fill their ticket quota yet...


oh believe me. you'd be suprised at some of things the cops do in the town where my high school is. kid got a ticket for his car being too dirty, i kid you not


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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 5:42pm
So, today I got another new peeve. People who back out onto main roads without looking.
 
Lets just say that if i hadnt had room on my left, id have a nice huge gash out of the side of my tiburon from an F-350.


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Posted By: Ben Grimm
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 6:09pm
I personally think cruise control should be illegal.  It encourages inattentive driving, and leads to people not adapting their speed to traffic because they don't want to travel at any speed other than their set speed.

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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 6:14pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


You shouldn't be in the left lane with a 7 month old baby in the car. Also, is this a 3 lane highway? A 2 lane and you may have a point on the passing slow thing.


I was reading this thread to my wife......she remembered you from your "hunting is useless" gem, and after this...

She's not a fan.




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Posted By: Ben Grimm
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 6:20pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


No he shouldn't be in the left lane with a 7 month old. Not because of the way he drives, but because of other people. I drive normal(fast but normal) and am appalled by some of the nonsense I see occuring.
 
Really?  I live in the left lane, and I think that is often the safest lane on the road.  The middle lane is full of zombies, and the right lane is full of scaredy-cats who are likely to stomp on the brakes randomly - and you also have to deal with people who have no concept of how to merge.
 
 


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 6:22pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


You shouldn't be in the left lane with a 7 month old baby in the car. Also, is this a 3 lane highway? A 2 lane and you may have a point on the passing slow thing.


I was reading this thread to my wife......she remembered you from your "hunting is useless" gem, and after this...

She's not a fan.




Like I care what your wife thinks of me?

Hunting is useless.

Also, what gem? I am sorry I think the left lane is dangerous and wouldn't drive there with a child. People are nuts on the highway. Hell if I had a kid I would avoid highway at all costs. Way too many close calls(not from my driving either)

Ben, you're probably right though. Maybe it is the safest. I would think the middle lane is. Definitely not the right lane.


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Posted By: Ben Grimm
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 6:30pm
Almost by definition, any middle lane has to be more dangerous - simply because you have to deal with traffic on both sides.  You are surrounded by morons.  In the left lane, all the morons are to your right where you can keep an eye on them.

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 6:33pm
Yeah but people ride you and cut you off way more in the left.

Hmm, maybe just the whole highway is pretty dangerous.


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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 6:41pm
Originally posted by Ben Grimm Ben Grimm wrote:

Really?  I live in the left lane, and I think that is often the safest lane on the road.  The middle lane is full of zombies, and the right lane is full of scaredy-cats who are likely to stomp on the brakes randomly - and you also have to deal with people who have no concept of how to merge.


Not sure if I've used this word before, so I'll give it a shot and call it my first.

This.

My time in the left lane, at the speed of "slightly faster than the guys in the middle lane," has been the least risky driving I've ever done. The right lane is full of unpredictability. You've got the people entering the highway, people cutting across from your left to get off the highway, and the slow and/or brake-happy and/or heavily loaded vehicle with loose cargo ahead of and behind you. I'm probably missing a few common people here, but it should suffice.

The middle lane, people just drive. And it's usually just great, until they forget about you and come charging up your rear end because they hit the gas and aren't paying attention. This is also the lane designated for trucks, and if you get stuck behind a weaving truck... well... I can't imagine many places more dangerous than that.

The left is great because the only other people in it are the speeding assholes like you, and some of the braver souls from the right lane who wish to venture into new territory. Even when the superspeeders come up behind you and tailgate, you know you're a few seconds away from a passing opportunity for them. When you get stuck behind a slow guy, it kind of sucks at first. Then you get to pass them and realize, those tailgating pricks, because  they're so much in a rush, will miss passing opportunities in their anger. You will have a nice empty lane in both directions for a short while.

Going back to the middle-lane zombies: I go slightly faster than them so that they don't forget about me. I have been stuck a few times at the same speed as a middle-laner, and without fail, that person will always drift over into my lane or worse, try to pass the guy in front of him while I'm right beside him. Go slightly slower, and they'll get brave if they want to switch into the left lane, making for some close calls. It also keeps the speeding assholes from becoming a big deal if you go slightly faster. They get some perspective: "Hey, at least this guy kind of has the right idea."

The thing that really gets me is when those tailgaters are driving the same types of cars that unmarked cops drive. I have had real unmarked cars tempt me to speed up before going around me (after which I see gov't plates or "police interceptor" on the bumper), so I'm taking no risks if you come up behind me in a crown vic and start flashing lights. You aren't even getting a lane change from me until it's perfectly clear in the adjacent lane.


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Posted By: Uncle Rudder
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 6:47pm
I hate it when I'm in the left hand lane, doing about 10 over the limit, and some moron comes up behind me doing at least 100 because I don't even see them coming, and instead of just going into the empty right hand lane next to me.  They slam on the break, flash their lights and beep their horn at me. 
 
If you're in such a rush why didn't you just go around me instead of slowing down and acting like a tool until I get over and then you take off like speed-racer again?


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Posted By: Ben Grimm
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 6:58pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Yeah but people ride you and cut you off way more in the left.

 
Who is cutting me off in the left lane?  There usually isn't a lot of traffic in and out of the left lane - that's part of the joy.
 
And as for tailgaters - easy fix:  be the fastest car on the road.  And if somebody faster does come along, I see them coming and pull over to let them pass before they even get to me.  With good planning, you shouldn't hardly have to change your speed.
 
 
 


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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:00pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


You shouldn't be in the left lane with a 7 month old baby in the car. Also, is this a 3 lane highway? A 2 lane and you may have a point on the passing slow thing.


I was reading this thread to my wife......she remembered you from your "hunting is useless" gem, and after this...

She's not a fan.




Like I care what your wife thinks of me?
Just thought I'd throw it out there.

Hunting is useless.
Still digging after hitting the bottom? Commendable, if sad.

Also, what gem? I am sorry I think the left lane is dangerous and wouldn't drive there with a child. People are nuts on the highway. Hell if I had a kid I would avoid highway at all costs. Way too many close calls(not from my driving either)

Way too many close calls? I've seen more close calls on back roads thanks to slow traffic and the deer that should have been hunted than I have on the highways. Should I not travel at all?

Ben, you're probably right though. Maybe it is the safest. I would think the middle lane is. Definitely not the right lane.




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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:05pm
Originally posted by Ben Grimm Ben Grimm wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Yeah but people ride you and cut you off way more in the left.

 
Who is cutting me off in the left lane?  There usually isn't a lot of traffic in and out of the left lane - that's part of the joy.

Who is cutting you off in the left lane? How about the idiots doing the rice weave? They pull into the middle lane like a normal individual. They then see they won't be able to pass me easily so they speed up and damn near hit me getting in front of me. Cutting into the little space between me and the car in front of them/me
 
And as for tailgaters - easy fix:  be the fastest car on the road.  And if somebody faster does come along, I see them coming and pull over to let them pass before they even get to me.  With good planning, you shouldn't hardly have to change your speed.
 
I drive fast. Doesn't stop people from riding me hard.
 
 


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:07pm
Reb why are you even arguing? I made a comment jesus christ. Shut the hell up. Seriously.

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Posted By: Ben Grimm
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:09pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


Who is cutting you off in the left lane? How about the idiots doing the rice weave? They pull into the middle lane like a normal individual. They then see they won't be able to pass me easily so they speed up and damn near hit me getting in front of me. Cutting into the little space between me and the car in front of them/me
 
 
My solution (other than driving really fast):  as discussed above, if I see somebody come up behind me, I pull over to let them pass.
 
If somebody is passing you on the right, chances are pretty good you are in the wrong lane.
 
 
(Exceptions, of course - folks using all 3/4/5 lanes so they never actually come up behind you, but they really are the minority)
 


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:12pm
Ben, trust me I am never going too slow to be in the left lane.

You say they're in the minority, but they're still pretty frequent...I do a decent amount of driving.


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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:20pm
Screw it, no response....I'm just going to let your last comment speak for itself.


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Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:24pm
damn if that wasnt strike worthy im now averse as to what is

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:28pm
Oh Reb I would like to see your response. Put it back.

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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:34pm
Jmac, seems like alot of people love you lately.
 
Im suprised I havent seen 'omgz new jerzey iz bad" comments yet.


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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:37pm
Originally posted by Ben Grimm Ben Grimm wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


Who is cutting you off in the left lane? How about the idiots doing the rice weave? They pull into the middle lane like a normal individual. They then see they won't be able to pass me easily so they speed up and damn near hit me getting in front of me. Cutting into the little space between me and the car in front of them/me
 
 
My solution (other than driving really fast):  as discussed above, if I see somebody come up behind me, I pull over to let them pass.
 
If somebody is passing you on the right, chances are pretty good you are in the wrong lane.
 
 
(Exceptions, of course - folks using all 3/4/5 lanes so they never actually come up behind you, but they really are the minority)
 


And this would be the proper, courteous thing to do rather than declare yourself the law and slow everyone else down.  All that does is increase road rage and make the road even more dangerous.


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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:41pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

Jmac, seems like alot of people love you lately.

That's what happens when you go out of your way to be a tool on a regular basis.
 
Im suprised I havent seen 'omgz new jerzey iz bad" comments yet.

I'm assuming there is a story behind this I don't know; if it is good please explain.


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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:42pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

Jmac, seems like alot of people love you lately.
 
Im suprised I havent seen 'omgz new jerzey iz bad" comments yet.


New Jersey gets a bad rap I think. Its not that they're really bad, there's just so dang many of them.
Bad drivers, I still insist- come from Connecticut and drive BMWs.


LOL

jmac, it wasn't anything bad, I just realized after I posed it that it wasn't going to accomplish anything.






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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:45pm
Mack, when am I a tool? Especially going out of my way to be one?

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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:45pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Bad drivers, I still insist- come from Connecticut and drive BMWs.


Kansas has the worst drivers.  When they get out of their home state it's like they don't know how to drive.  (Probably due to lack of experience with roads that have actual direction changes.)


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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 7:55pm
Originally posted by Uncle Rudder Uncle Rudder wrote:

I hate it when I'm in the left hand lane, doing about 10 over the limit, and some moron comes up behind me doing at least 100 because I don't even see them coming, and instead of just going into the empty right hand lane next to me.  They slam on the break, flash their lights and beep their horn at me. 
 
While I don't necessarily condone honking except in the most of extreme circumstances, perhaps, if you were paying attention, you would have seen the faster driver coming up and gotten in the right hand lane as you should. If it's clear and you aren't passing anyone, why are you in the left hand lane anyways? Left hand lane = passing.

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Posted By: Ben Grimm
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 8:09pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Bad drivers, I still insist- come from Connecticut
 
My experience driving in CT taught me two local rules for intersection stoplights:
 
1.  A red light doesn't really count until it has been red for 2-3 seconds.
 
2.  It's ok to get a head start on your own green light.  When the light for crossing traffic turns yellow, it's time for you to hit the gas.
 
I am still astonished that I didn't see a pileup in every intersection every single day.
 


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Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 8:22pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Mack, when am I a tool? Especially going out of my way to be one?


Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by stratoaxe stratoaxe wrote:

I hope you guys know that 10  MPH rule is a total crock. You'll get a 0-10 ticket.

 
And not all Texas drivers are good...we have our share of weiner jockeys as well.


Anyone that believes it is a real law is retarded....it is still over the speed limit.


Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:


You shouldn't be in the left lane with a 7 month old baby in the car. Also, is this a 3 lane highway? A 2 lane and you may have a point on the passing slow thing.


I was reading this thread to my wife......she remembered you from your "hunting is useless" gem, and after this...

She's not a fan.




Like I care what your wife thinks of me?

Hunting is useless.

Also, what gem? I am sorry I think the left lane is dangerous and wouldn't drive there with a child. People are nuts on the highway. Hell if I had a kid I would avoid highway at all costs. Way too many close calls(not from my driving either)

Ben, you're probably right though. Maybe it is the safest. I would think the middle lane is. Definitely not the right lane.


Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Reb why are you even arguing? I made a comment jesus christ. Shut the hell up. Seriously.



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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 8:26pm
slacker how is that being a tool?

I said people who think the 10 MPH thing is real is dumb. Others agreed.

I then said I feel driving is dangerous with a baby in the car.

Reb then argued with me, said I called him a bad parent and told me his wife thinks some crap I don't care about.

None of that is being a tool...


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Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 8:37pm
Originally posted by Ben Grimm Ben Grimm wrote:

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Bad drivers, I still insist- come from Connecticut
 
My experience driving in CT taught me two local rules for intersection stoplights:
 
1.  A red light doesn't really count until it has been red for 2-3 seconds.
 
2.  It's ok to get a head start on your own green light.  When the light for crossing traffic turns yellow, it's time for you to hit the gas.
 
I am still astonished that I didn't see a pileup in every intersection every single day.
 


I live in Connecticut.

So wait, whats wrong with the above? LOL


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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 8:40pm
Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Bad drivers, I still insist- come from Connecticut and drive BMWs.


Kansas has the worst drivers.  When they get out of their home state it's like they don't know how to drive.  (Probably due to lack of experience with roads that have actual direction changes.)
OMG I know!Confused And I live within 20 miles ofKansass. Even that far out of their state, it's like driving behind aquadriplegicc.

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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 8:45pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

slacker how is that being a tool?

I said people who think the 10 MPH thing is real is dumb. Others agreed.

I then said I feel driving is dangerous with a baby in the car.

Reb then argued with me, said I called him a bad parent and told me his wife thinks some crap I don't care about.

None of that is being a tool...
I wouldn't blame it all on jmac being a tool. A good portion of it is related to jmac being an idiot.

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 8:51pm
Sneaky, screw off. There is no idiocy there either.

Point it out please.


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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:04pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

slacker how is that being a tool?

I said people who think the 10 MPH thing is real is dumb. Others agreed.

I then said I feel driving is dangerous with a baby in the car.
 
Driving is dangerous without a baby in the car, but what do you propose? Horse and buggy? A Chariot?

Reb then argued with me, said I called him a bad parent and told me his wife thinks some crap I don't care about.
 
Obviously anybody who puts their child in a car at some point is a bad parent.

None of that is being a tool...
No, I see it now. That makes perfect sense jmac. You can't even say I'm taking this out of context, that's pretty much exactly what you are saying.

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:07pm
I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS BAD PARENTING. I DIDN'T SAY TO STOP DRIVING.

I SAID GOING IN THE LEFT LANE IS DUMB BECAUSE IT IS MORE DANGEROUS AND I WOULDN'T DO IT.


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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:11pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS BAD PARENTING. I DIDN'T SAY TO STOP DRIVING.

I SAID GOING IN THE LEFT LANE IS DUMB BECAUSE IT IS MORE DANGEROUS AND I WOULDN'T DO IT.
Z0MG PANIK E-TTAK!
Seriously? The left lane is really no more dangerous than the right lane. Honestly, following some bafoon for 26 miles because you are too sceered to go around him is by far more dangerous.

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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:14pm
As far as I know, the 10 over thing IS actually real here.


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:17pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Sneaky, <mccensored> off. There is no idiocy there either.

Point it out please.


Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

If you are in the left lane and not doing at least 75(65 limit) you are going to slow.

Apparently believing that speed limits are optional or have some magical buffer zone that allows exceeding them by a certain limit.

I will agree with you on the flashing lights. Sometimes I will be driving 80-85 . . .

See above on speed limits.

. . . and some idiot flashes me. They are now going 70.

Intentionally hindering other traffic could be considered less than intelligent behavior given the increased potential for an accident.

They are not passing me on the right, because I have no issue speeding back up to my original speed to not allow it.

Refer to the intentionally hindering point again but add the potential for road rage* in as well.

You shouldn't be in the left lane with a 7 month old baby in the car.

And that is just silly.  Besides the fact that a child in an infant car seat is located in a fairly safe situation, what are the parents supposed to do, stay home until the kid turns 18?


*This actually explains a lot of jmac3's forum behavior . . . wait for it . . . he has code rage.  Big smile


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:18pm
Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS BAD PARENTING. I DIDN'T SAY TO STOP DRIVING.

I SAID GOING IN THE LEFT LANE IS DUMB BECAUSE IT IS MORE DANGEROUS AND I WOULDN'T DO IT.
Z0MG PANIK E-TTAK!
Seriously? The left lane is really no more dangerous than the right lane. Honestly, following some bafoon for 26 miles because you are too sceered to go around him is by far more dangerous.


No panic attack, you people just can't read.,

Also, that is your opinion. My opinion is the left lane is more dangerous than the middle. For christ sakes shut up already.


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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:21pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

No panic attack, you people just can't read.,

Also, that is your opinion. My opinion is the left lane is more dangerous than the middle. For christ sakes shut up already.


What do you mean "you people?"

Hmmmm a generic insult followed by (essentially) my opinion is correct so I don't want any disagreement . . . who does this remind me of.








Yeah . . . I went there . . . sort of.


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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS BAD PARENTING. I DIDN'T SAY TO STOP DRIVING.

I SAID GOING IN THE LEFT LANE IS DUMB BECAUSE IT IS MORE DANGEROUS AND I WOULDN'T DO IT.
Z0MG PANIK E-TTAK!
Seriously? The left lane is really no more dangerous than the right lane. Honestly, following some bafoon for 26 miles because you are too sceered to go around him is by far more dangerous.


No panic attack, you people just can't read.,

Also, that is your opinion. My opinion is the left lane is more dangerous than the middle. For christ sakes shut up already.
I forgot, jmac is the only one who gets to voice their thoughts and opinions in this forum. Yes its dangerous if you are a blundering idiot speeding through heavy traffic. Walking outside in the rain with your kid is more dangerous than only going outside when it's sunny. Should we do that too?

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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:23pm
Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

No panic attack, you people just can't read.,

Also, that is your opinion. My opinion is the left lane is more dangerous than the middle. For christ sakes shut up already.


What do you mean "you people?"

Hmmmm a generic insult followed by (essentially) my opinion is correct so I don't want any disagreement . . . who does this remind me of.








Yeah . . . I went there . . . sort of.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:24pm


Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

If you are in the left lane and not doing at least 75(65 limit) you are going to slow.

Apparently believing that speed limits are optional or have some magical buffer zone that allows exceeding them by a certain limit.

Or because 75 is a perfectly safe speed. I never said they were optional. In fact I was called a tool on this page for anyone who thinks the 10 mph is optional is dumb.

I will agree with you on the flashing lights. Sometimes I will be driving 80-85 . . .

See above on speed limits.

I don't care. I drive fast.


. . . and some idiot flashes me. They are now going 70.

Intentionally hindering other traffic could be considered less than intelligent behavior given the increased potential for an accident.

Hindering traffic really? Slowing down to 70 is bad after you complained about me saying I drive fast? 70 is still over the speed limit. Hypocrite much?


They are not passing me on the right, because I have no issue speeding back up to my original speed to not allow it.

Refer to the intentionally hindering point again but add the potential for road rage* in as well.

Refer to the hindering part again. Yes it is slight road rage, not idiocy.

You shouldn't be in the left lane with a 7 month old baby in the car.

And that is just silly.  Besides the fact that a child in an infant car seat is located in a fairly safe situation, what are the parents supposed to do, stay home until the kid turns 18?

Did I say that? I said the I feel the left lane is more dangerous, and you shouldn't be driving with a baby in the car in the left. Do you not do anything at all more cautiously when you have a kid? I bet you do. I didn't say stay home, I didn't say stay off the highway(though I did say I would try to).



*This actually explains a lot of jmac3's forum behavior . . . wait for it . . . he has code rage.  Big smile
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:26pm
Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS BAD PARENTING. I DIDN'T SAY TO STOP DRIVING.

I SAID GOING IN THE LEFT LANE IS DUMB BECAUSE IT IS MORE DANGEROUS AND I WOULDN'T DO IT.
Z0MG PANIK E-TTAK!
Seriously? The left lane is really no more dangerous than the right lane. Honestly, following some bafoon for 26 miles because you are too sceered to go around him is by far more dangerous.


No panic attack, you people just can't read.,

Also, that is your opinion. My opinion is the left lane is more dangerous than the middle. For christ sakes shut up already.
I forgot, jmac is the only one who gets to voice their thoughts and opinions in this forum. Yes its dangerous if you are a blundering idiot speeding through heavy traffic. Walking outside in the rain with your kid is more dangerous than only going outside when it's sunny. Should we do that too?


Did I say you can't voice your opinion. There is no need to call me a tool for saying a statement. Or arguing saying I called you a bad parent.

Is there something wrong with taking precautions with a kid in the car? Holy mother of god.


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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:29pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS BAD PARENTING. I DIDN'T SAY TO STOP DRIVING.

I SAID GOING IN THE LEFT LANE IS DUMB BECAUSE IT IS MORE DANGEROUS AND I WOULDN'T DO IT.
Z0MG PANIK E-TTAK!
Seriously? The left lane is really no more dangerous than the right lane. Honestly, following some bafoon for 26 miles because you are too sceered to go around him is by far more dangerous.


No panic attack, you people just can't read.,

Also, that is your opinion. My opinion is the left lane is more dangerous than the middle. For christ sakes shut up already.
I forgot, jmac is the only one who gets to voice their thoughts and opinions in this forum. Yes its dangerous if you are a blundering idiot speeding through heavy traffic. Walking outside in the rain with your kid is more dangerous than only going outside when it's sunny. Should we do that too?


Did I say you can't voice your opinion.
Originally posted by jmac jmac wrote:

 For christ sakes shut up already
There is no need to call me a tool for saying a statement. Or arguing saying I called you a bad parent.

Is there something wrong with taking precautions with a kid in the car? Holy mother of god.
God did'nt even have a mother silly.

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:31pm
More with the shut up with arguing everything I say for some reason....

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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:35pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

More with the shut up with arguing everything I say for some reason....
Would you at least make up your mind with whether I am sposed to shut up or whether I do get to speak my opinions? Gees, flip flopping back and forth and getting more and more angry as the thread goes on. You sir remind me of somebody... His name escapes me atm. The Enterprise? No that's not it. Free Surprise? No.... Hmm, well I'll think of it. Big smile

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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:38pm
Alright, screw it...locking my own thread.

Those that tried to have a decent conversation, thanks.

Those that didn't.....I should have known better.


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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 23 November 2009 at 9:38pm
LOL IN B4 LOCK!

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