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Topic: Pokemon is from the devil!
Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Subject: Pokemon is from the devil!
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 12:05am
Lol




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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 12:22am

How do people come up with this stuff?

People need to quit being so damn stupid.


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Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 12:35am
 

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Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 1:20pm
Silly Christans... And they wonder why everyone laughs at them.

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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 1:39pm
Of course! This moron represents all Christians, right?


Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:14pm
Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

Of course! This moron represents all Christians, right?


Is he Christian? Is he in the public? Then yes he does.


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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:18pm
Words cannot express how much I think of you right now.


Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:18pm
Good.

Not my fault he represents something you happen to be a part of.


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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:24pm
Osama Bin Laden is part of Islam and he speaks to the public so he represents all Muslims?


Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:24pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Good.

Not my fault he represents something you happen to be a part of.
Jmac, do you ever think before you speak? One moron does not represent the entire group as a whole.

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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:24pm
Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

Osama Bin Laden is part of Islam and he speaks to the public so he represents all Muslims?
According to FE, yes.

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:26pm
Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Good.

Not my fault he represents something you happen to be a part of.
Jmac, do you ever think before you speak? One moron does not represent the entire group as a whole.


Yes one moron does. Especially when that moron is very visible.

Osama Bin Laden represents Muslims because he is visible to the world(kind of?).




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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:27pm
Just stop talking.


Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:30pm
Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

Just stop talking.
When you are being out smarted by Rofl, you just need to stop.

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:35pm
Why don't you stop talking?

Definitions of represent

1 : to bring clearly before the mind (with that cross podium I think of Christianity)
2 : to serve as a sign or symbol of (he is symbolizing Christians while standing up there)
3 : to portray (I believe he is portraying a Christian preacher?)


Oh wait what is this? Another definition?

3. http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/To - To http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/portray - portray http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/by - by http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/mimicry - mimicry http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/or - or http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/action - action http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/of - of http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/any - any http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/kind - kind ; http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/To - To http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/act - act http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/the - the http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/part - part http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/or - or http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/character - character http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/of - of


He is portraying a Christian preacher maybe by "mimicry". He is also acting the part. Now when I see him I think he is a Christian preacher, therefore if Christians allow this man to speak then Christians must agree.




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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:36pm
I am not being outsmarted by Rofl, all he can do is tell me to stop.

When you stop for a second and realize what it is I am saying, you will know that me saying he represents Christians is a correct statement.


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Posted By: Neothesmurf
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:38pm
Jmac FTW...

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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:38pm
But I said all Christians. Clearly he has retard followers, as does Osama Bin Laden. Still does not mean he represents ALL Christians.

I know its an extreme example but it works.


Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:39pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Why don't you stop talking?

Definitions of represent

1 : to bring clearly before the mind (with that cross podium I think of Christianity)
2 : to serve as a sign or symbol of (he is symbolizing Christians while standing up there)
3 : to portray (I believe he is portraying a Christian preacher?)


Oh wait what is this? Another definition?

3. http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/To - To http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/portray - portray http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/by - by http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/mimicry - mimicry http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/or - or http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/action - action http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/of - of http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/any - any http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/kind - kind ; http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/To - To http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/act - act http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/the - the http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/part - part http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/or - or http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/character - character http://www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/of - of


He is portraying a Christian preacher maybe by "mimicry". He is also acting the part. Now when I see him I think he is a Christian preacher, therefore if Christians allow this man to speak then Christians must agree.


Proof of your lack of brain activity.
 
Freedom of speach allows this man to talk. The KKK still hold rallies and parades in some parts of the nation. Just because we allow them to speak (we are constitutionally obligated) that does not mean we agree with them. Sure some christians do agree with him. That does not mean he represents the whole group. No person can possibly represent the entire christian faith, not even Jesus suprisingly enough. There are way to many variations of what people believe.


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:41pm
Yes he does represent Christians whether you like it or not.

It does not matter if there are 432343423423423423 different types of Christians who don't agree with him. The man represents the faith he subscribes just by standing up and saying he does.


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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:46pm

Jmac, your responses in this thread answer you question to me in the other that got locked.



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Posted By: Neothesmurf
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:50pm
because he is up there speaking about the christian faith, and pokemon being the devils work, he is trying to portray this to everyone who is willing to listen. he is actively trying to represent the faith and tell you how to worship God. just because you may not agree with what he says does not mean its not what he is doing.

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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:51pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Yes he does represent Christians whether you like it or not.

It does not matter if there are 432343423423423423 different types of Christians who don't agree with him. The man represents the faith he subscribes just by standing up and saying he does.
Obviously you are correct. I guess I will go represent the entire male population at the mall right now, proving that all males are actually 5'9", weigh 125 lbs, have blonde hair and blue eyes, all males also have rockin' emo hair. I will also be sure to represent all males in the fact that they all wear size 8 black converse, 28x32 American eagle jeans and a small nirvana T-shirt and a black studded belt. I will continue representing the entire male population as I drive my camaro listening to hardstyle the whole way there and back. obviously I represent the entire male population because I in fact, do go out in public. Other males allow me to be in public, so obviously they accept my representing the entire gender. I also do have the symbols of being a male...namely male genitalia. So obviously, I, Taylor, represent the entire male population.
 
Lovin' your logic.


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:51pm
Oh me speaking truth makes me a dick now? Alright brother.




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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:52pm
That is the wrong logic Sneaky.

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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 2:56pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

That is the wrong logic Sneaky.
Care to explain the differance?

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 3:07pm
It's called a stereotype.

You say emo hair, studded belt, and black converse. I think of this:



Now if you go stand in front a large group of people who agree with what you say, and you say the music I listen to is hardstyle!

Now when I see someone that looks the same I now think they probably listen to the same stuff as you. Where as two things may be true. Not everyone who looks like that listens to the same stuff, and not everyone who does listen looks like that.


Same goes for this man. He stands up to represent Christians and say Pokemon is the devil. Now people may say "oh Christians think Pokemon is the devil!" when in reality not all Christians think that.


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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 3:26pm
Uh, NO. He represents, at most, his congregation.

He has no bearing on my congregation. How can he represent me?

He is a loud outspoken person, sure. But representative of all Christians? Far from it.

Using your logic, Sneaky is right.

I declare myself Jmac's representitive, and as such I can say Jmac agrees he is a troll. And he doesn't want to be fed.

Wow. This representative thing works great.

KBK


Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 3:32pm
Kayback wrong logic again.

Yes he represents his congregation officially. Doesn't mean that from the outside he isn't representing the rest of his faith.


Also, who ever said I wasn't a troll?


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 3:33pm
For the record when I think of South Africans I think of the crazy dudes from Lethal Weapon, k?

"B b but he's black"


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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 3:37pm
A stereotype and a representative are different Jmac. While he may be a representative of the Christian church that he is associated with, he is not a representative of the overall faith. The KKK claims to be Christian, but I think we can all agree that they are not representatives of the Christian faith. Falwall or some other nut claimed many years ago that the reason Florida was getting hammered by hurricanes because Disney was proteting the rights of homosexuals. I don't think anyone will argue that this is representative of the faith either. Now if you have a large portion of Christianity advocating the same beleifs, than you can make that leap, but not based on one individual.

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Posted By: Gator Taco
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 3:41pm
What's that saying about adults with imaginary friends....

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 3:44pm
No it is not different. To people who don't know the difference the man represents Christians.

Just like Osama Bin Laden earlier. To the ignorant he is what all Muslims are like.


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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 3:47pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

No it is not different. To people who don't know the difference the man represents Christians.

Just like Osama Bin Laden earlier. To the ignorant he is what all Muslims are like.
So what you are saying is you think Osama Bin Laden represents all Muslims?

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 3:54pm
LOL YOU CALLED ME IGNORANT HOW CLEVER OF YOU

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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 4:01pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

For the record when I think of South Africans I think of the crazy dudes from Lethal Weapon, k?"B b but he's black"


Only people with very small intellects think that one person represents the whole.

Especially one person from a Hollywood production.

Like you said, this guy isn't oficially representing all of Christianity. So how can you say he represents all of it? He is a spokesperson for part of it. IF you refuse to see that, well see point above.

Honestly, all you are doing is sitting in a corner shouting the world doesn't agree with you, so it is wrong.This is the how many'th topic you've done that? You need to brush up on your debating skills. Reading your repetative "Koz I sayz so, whatever you say is irrelivent!!!!!1one1" is getting boring.

KBK


Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 4:10pm
Originally posted by oldpbnoob oldpbnoob wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

No it is not different. To people who don't know the difference the man represents Christians.

Just like Osama Bin Laden earlier. To the ignorant he is what all Muslims are like.
So what you are saying is you think Osama Bin Laden represents all Muslims?


Whether you want to admit it or not, jmac is right on this one.  There are ignorant people out there, much like FE who think the radical muslims are the same as all muslims because they have not been exposed to the rest of the muslim community.  The only exposure they have to the muslim community is through the news which only talks about the radicals blowing cars and people up.  Now, the rest of the non-radical muslim community all say the same thing you are saying now, that the radicals are not a representation of everybody else.  Technically, they are right.  However, there are still those, like FE who, in their heads, equate the radical sects with the rest of the population.  It is in this way that the radicals are, in fact, representatives of all Muslims; not to everybody, and it doesn't have to be an accurate representation, but it is still a representation.

The key here is that it does not have to be an accurate representation, which it isn't in this case.    You have one sect who is being publicly heard by non-christians.  Because he doesn't have a banner or sign or anything else saying that he is of a particular denomination of christianity, the only thing that non-christians know is that he is christian because of the cross-shaped podium he is standing behind.  To all of the people who are familiar with christianity, this group is clearly not representative of the entire religion.  But, to the outsiders who are only exposed to christianity through people like this, they might make the connection inside their heads that what this one preacher is saying is a widely held belief in christianity and therefore this one group represents all of christianity; not to  christians, but to the outside world. 

Another example, remember what your teachers told you whenever you went on fieldtrips back in school?  It probably went something like "Be a good representation of our school."  If you go to say, a museum, everyone could behave perfectly, except for a couple kids who go around trashing the place.  Even though the vast majority of the kids could be prefect little angels, anyone who recognizes the hell-raisers as being from John Doe Elementary will always make that connection and think that everyone from John Doe Elementary is the same as the few bad ones who got their attention.  That is why your teachers told you that;  because it only takes a couple people to give the rest of the school a bad reputation through their actions because everyone else will view those few bad ones as representatives of the rest.


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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 4:17pm
Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

Originally posted by oldpbnoob oldpbnoob wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

No it is not different. To people who don't know the difference the man represents Christians.

Just like Osama Bin Laden earlier. To the ignorant he is what all Muslims are like.
So what you are saying is you think Osama Bin Laden represents all Muslims?


Whether you want to admit it or not, jmac is right on this one.  There are ignorant people out there, much like FE who think the radical muslims are the same as all muslims because they have not been exposed to the rest of the muslim community.  The only exposure they have to the muslim community is through the news which only talks about the radicals blowing cars and people up.  Now, the rest of the non-radical muslim community all say the same thing you are saying now, that the radicals are not a representation of everybody else.  Technically, they are right.  However, there are still those, like FE who, in their heads, equate the radical sects with the rest of the population.  It is in this way that the radicals are, in fact, representatives of all Muslims; not to everybody, and it doesn't have to be an accurate representation, but it is still a representation.

The key here is that it does not have to be an accurate representation, which it isn't in this case.    You have one sect who is being publicly heard by non-christians.  Because he doesn't have a banner or sign or anything else saying that he is of a particular denomination of christianity, the only thing that non-christians know is that he is christian because of the cross-shaped podium he is standing behind.  To all of the people who are familiar with christianity, this group is clearly not representative of the entire religion.  But, to the outsiders who are only exposed to christianity through people like this, they might make the connection inside their heads that what this one preacher is saying is a widely held belief in christianity and therefore this one group represents all of christianity; not to  christians, but to the outside world. 

Another example, remember what your teachers told you whenever you went on fieldtrips back in school?  It probably went something like "Be a good representation of our school."  If you go to say, a museum, everyone could behave perfectly, except for a couple kids who go around trashing the place.  Even though the vast majority of the kids could be prefect little angels, anyone who recognizes the hell-raisers as being from John Doe Elementary will always make that connection and think that everyone from John Doe Elementary is the same as the few bad ones who got their attention.  That is why your teachers told you that;  because it only takes a couple people to give the rest of the school a bad reputation through their actions because everyone else will view those few bad ones as representatives of the rest.
While I honestly do see where you are coming from with that, I do feel like there is a big differance between stereotypes and representatives. What you are referring to, at least by my personal standards, falls under the stereotyping category.

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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 4:31pm
Stereotype - 4. Sociology. a simplified and standardized conception or image invested with special meaning and held in common by members of a group

In this case the simplified and standardized conception or image invested with special meaning is that all christians are afraid of pokemon.  The group that holds the view in common is those who are not familiar with christianity.  They used this one congregation as a representation of all of christianity in forming their stereotype.  People use what they know(pokemon preacher) as a representative of the larger group (christians) to form their stereotypes. 

While that one preacher isn't a representative in the sense of an elected or appointed official tasked by all christians to represent them, he is still a representative of christians in the way I posted above. 

This group its self is not a stereotype, but representative of christianity that people may use to form stereotypes.  He could be a basis for a stereotype, but is not the stereotype himself.  He is the representative used to form the stereotype.   Running out of ways to phrase that. 


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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 4:35pm
Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

I do feel like there is a big differance between stereotypes and representatives. .

And with that, sneaky takes the thread


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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 4:40pm
Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

I do feel like there is a big differance between stereotypes and representatives. .

And with that, sneaky takes the thread


Actually he just agreed with me and jmac.


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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 4:44pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

LOL YOU CALLED ME IGNORANT HOW CLEVER OF YOU
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Is he Christian? Is he in the public? Then yes he does.
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Yes one moron does. Especially when that moron is very visible.

Osama Bin Laden represents Muslims because he is visible to the world(kind of?)
 
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Yes he does represent Christians whether you like it or not.

It does not matter if there are 432343423423423423 different types of Christians who don't agree with him. The man represents the faith he subscribes just by standing up and saying he does.
 
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

No it is not different. To people who don't know the difference the man represents Christians.
Just like Osama Bin Laden earlier. To the ignorant he is what all Muslims are like.

 
 
 
 
 

 


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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 4:49pm
Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

I do feel like there is a big differance between stereotypes and representatives. .

And with that, sneaky takes the thread


Actually he just agreed with me and jmac.

I just skipped most of jmac's posts and skimmed yours, so if you were also saying that this preacher is not representative of Christianity and that type of silly evangelical preaching is a stereotype or blanket view to the ignorant of what Christianity believes in, rather then a legitimate representation, then sure.

I will agree though, that this man is a fair representation of the particular branch of Christianity he preaches for.


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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 4:50pm
Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

I do feel like there is a big differance between stereotypes and representatives. .

And with that, sneaky takes the thread


Actually he just agreed with me and jmac.
How so? I believe the preacher is contributing to a stereotype. I in no way at all stated the preacher is a representative of Christianity as a whole. You may consider the terms to be synonyms, but I do not.

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 4:50pm
LOL DID YOU QUOTE ME AND CALL ME IGNORANT?

HOW CLEVER OF YOU


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 4:51pm
Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:



I will agree though, that this man is a fair representation of the particular branch of Christianity he preaches for.


Which to people who don't know the difference is representative of all Christianity.




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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 4:53pm
I'm fairly confused as to how you stand by such comments, claim that they only apply to ignorant people, and then again stand behind them again.

Troll is troll.


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Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 4:55pm
They were right. You are a dick.


Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 4:56pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

Of course! This moron represents all Christians, right?


Is he Christian? Is he in the public? Then yes he does.



Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:



I will agree though, that this man is a fair representation of the particular branch of Christianity he preaches for.


Which to people who don't know the difference is representative of all Christianity.


...So do you or don't know know the difference? You've asserted that he is a representative of Christianity. And yet you've said that only people who don't know the difference believe that.

The only logical solution is that you know that you don't know that there's a difference..?

The alternatives are that you're just kind of slow, or that you're deliberately troling (and succeeding), but committing the unforgivable forum sin of failing to amuse. 

Trolling religious folks CAN be funny if a) they're SRSBUSINESS! enough and b) you do in in a funny way, but so far you're swinging and missing...


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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 4:56pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

LOL DID YOU QUOTE ME AND CALL ME IGNORANT?
I think you've done a good enough job of that on your own.

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 5:04pm
Brihard, I know he is not what all Christians are like. This does not change the fact that to others he is seen as what Christians are. Why is that so hard to understand?


Him standing on TV as a Christian and publicly doing stupid things makes people think that is what Christians do.

Some examples:

Go to a sporting event. Sit next to a rude/rowdy fan. Now I would know that he isn't what all fans are like. Someone else might sit next to him(maybe from another state rooting for the away team) and be like "OMG THAT TEAM'S FANS ARE ALL A-HOLES"

Or how about someone like FE? Yes we know he isn't what all Republicans are like, but people like him gives Republicans bad names. In fact Sneaky I am pretty sure you have said as much. If FE isn't what Republicans are like, how is he giving them bad names?


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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 5:11pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Brihard, I know he is not what all Christians are like. This does not change the fact that to others he is seen as what Christians are. Why is that so hard to understand?


Him standing on TV as a Christian and publicly doing stupid things makes people think that is what Christians do.

Some examples:

Go to a sporting event. Sit next to a rude/rowdy fan. Now I would know that he isn't what all fans are like. Someone else might sit next to him(maybe from another state rooting for the away team) and be like "OMG THAT TEAM'S FANS ARE ALL A-HOLES"

Or how about someone like FE? Yes we know he isn't what all Republicans are like, but people like him gives Republicans bad names. In fact Sneaky I am pretty sure you have said as much. If FE isn't what Republicans are like, how is he giving them bad names?

Then by your logic, your posts here make all Americans look like idiots who can't debate a point in a coherent manner. Fortunately I know that not to be true. So then what you really mean to say is that him standing on TV and saying stupid stuff makes stupid people think that all Christians are like that..

You started out by saying 'yes he does' in response to the matter of 'does he represent all Christians?'. You can't suddenly go back and put caveats on your statement retroactively without admitting that you've contradicted yourself.


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 5:14pm
Yes that logic is correct Brihard. Exactly. The thing is you know this not to be true. Someone elseonly exposed to my posts would not know this therefore I represent Americans on the Internet.

And no not stupid people, ignorant people, as in people who don't know any better.

I am still saying yes he does, I have not contradicted myself.


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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by Kayback Kayback wrote:

Only people with very small intellects think that one person represents the whole.
and Jmac, you continue to fail at seeing the point I have posted several times now where I said that stereotypes =/= representatives. Can people help further the stereotypical image? Of course. But it is still incorrect by my definition to say that he is a representative of christianity as a whole. I think our real issue lies in a conflict of terminology, which I have adressed two or three times now... But if the troll must continue to kick the dead bronco, let him continue.

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 5:18pm
Sneaky to go back and quote Eville

Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

This group its self is not a stereotype, but representative of christianity that people may use to form stereotypes.  He could be a basis for a stereotype, but is not the stereotype himself.


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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 5:19pm
Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

Originally posted by __sneaky__ __sneaky__ wrote:

I do feel like there is a big differance between stereotypes and representatives. .

And with that, sneaky takes the thread


Actually he just agreed with me and jmac.
How so? I believe the preacher is contributing to a stereotype. I in no way at all stated the preacher is a representative of Christianity as a whole. You may consider the terms to be synonyms, but I do not.


Re read my posts.  Being representative and being a representative are two different things.


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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 5:23pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Sneaky to go back and quote Eville

Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

This group its self is not a stereotype, but representative of christianity that people may use to form stereotypes.  He could be a basis for a stereotype, but is not the stereotype himself.
Agreed. He is very much the basis for a stereotype. Even still, that does not, by my terminology make him a representative of the Christian religion. I don't know why you refuse to accept that this entire argument is a difference of our own personal terminology...

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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 6:16pm
I am not saying he is representative, I am saying that to some people he is a representative.  Not that difficult of a concept to grasp.

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Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 7:25pm
niiice

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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 11:08pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

Of course! This moron represents all Christians, right?


Is he Christian? Is he in the public? Then yes he does.
Is that like saying L. Ron Hubbard represented all Christians?


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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 16 December 2009 at 11:32pm
Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

Of course! This moron represents all Christians, right?


Is he Christian? Is he in the public? Then yes he does.
Is that like saying L. Ron Hubbard represented all Christians?


Please don't go there.


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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 12:06am
The school outing comparison is false.

They want you to be a good representative of your school. You are easily identifiable as a school member if you are wearing a uniform (there are schools that require that) and the people at the location will know which school you represent. You do represent them because you are directly attached to the school. However! you do not represent schools as a whole.

Like this guy is identifiable as a Christian, of a certain sect. Thus he only represents that sect. He can not be said to be a representative for, or represent Christianity as a whole. Shoot even the POPE doesn't get that honour. There ARE something like 300 registered different versions of Christianity. It's like saying the fans of the Cowboys are representative of the Edmonton Oilers fans.

Only stupid people believe in stereotypes. If you are ignorant, yet clever, you will change your point of view when exposed to new information.


Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 12:28am
So it is what ignorant people might believe that we should base our position on.
 
Got it.


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Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 7:04am
I can't help but think I in some small way had a part in turning this thread into such a argument.

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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 3:31pm
In this thread: Christian's knee-jerk "HE DOESN"T REPRESENT ME!" reactions interfere with people's abilities to read.


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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 3:32pm
I'm not a Christian.

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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

In this thread: Christian's knee-jerk "HE DOESN"T REPRESENT ME!" reactions interfere with people's abilities to read.


Funny I was just thinking that people's kneejerk "I hate Christians and they are all stupid" reactions interfere with people's abilities to type coherant posts with well thought out arguments.

KBK


Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 6:35pm
Originally posted by Kayback Kayback wrote:

Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

In this thread: Christian's knee-jerk "HE DOESN"T REPRESENT ME!" reactions interfere with people's abilities to read.


Funny I was just thinking that people's kneejerk "I hate Christians and they are all stupid" reactions interfere with people's abilities to type coherant posts with well thought out arguments.

KBK
LOL  LOL


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 6:38pm
Originally posted by Kayback Kayback wrote:

Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

In this thread: Christian's knee-jerk "HE DOESN"T REPRESENT ME!" reactions interfere with people's abilities to read.


Funny I was just thinking that people's kneejerk "I hate Christians and they are all stupid" reactions interfere with people's abilities to type coherant posts with well thought out arguments.

KBK


Because anyone thinks that?


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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 8:56pm
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:



I will agree though, that this man is a fair representation of the particular branch of Christianity he preaches for.


Which to people who don't know the difference is representative of all Christianity.


Which obviously you are a part of.


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 11:16pm
Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:



I will agree though, that this man is a fair representation of the particular branch of Christianity he preaches for.


Which to people who don't know the difference is representative of all Christianity.


Which obviously you are a part of.


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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 11:21pm
I just lost the game.

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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 17 December 2009 at 11:23pm

Pokemon = Religion?

 
Im not even gonna try to figure out how this thread got to where it is right now.


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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 18 December 2009 at 12:00am
Its kind of the point of the thread ammo....


Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 18 December 2009 at 1:28am
Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

In this thread: Christian's knee-jerk "HE DOESN"T REPRESENT ME!" reactions interfere with people's abilities to read.
Is an atheist.

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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 18 December 2009 at 1:30am
I don't know that and neither do you.  Nice try though.

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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 18 December 2009 at 7:08am
Jmac i like you and tend to agree with you on most issues, but i hope you are just trolling here. If not, you are representative of ALL liberals, who are clearly ignorant and unwilling to admit when they are wrong.

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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 18 December 2009 at 7:39am
I think I agree with the opposition to jmac's motion. I'd like to add my own argument, jmac is fat, therefore he's wrong. I see this to be a logical conclusion given the facts presented in this conversation.

Now, if anyone would like to write the exact title of the video and the youtube account that posted it, I would be very much appreciative of the effort. See, youtube is banned by the idjits that run Turkey, so I need to go through a specially designed proxy to see videos, which requires me to search for what I need.

Thanks.


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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 18 December 2009 at 8:13am

POKEMON POWER

http://www.youtube.com/user/Shadow5920able - Shadow5920able



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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 18 December 2009 at 9:54am
Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

I don't know that and neither do you.  Nice try though.
No, I am an atheist. I know that quite well.

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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 18 December 2009 at 10:08am
Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

I just lost the game.
DAMMIT

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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 18 December 2009 at 10:13am
So I just watched the video. I don't know how old this is, but doesn't it look like they've all been left behind in the late 80s or something?

This guy just seems angry at the world and is reaching at anything to interpret in stupid ways. This is especially obvious when he starts listing things like video games and rock music and the internet. He strains to think of something else that's either on his list of demonic crap or anything else he can think of. It's sad to see his followers are not only still there but nodding their heads in agreement.


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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 18 December 2009 at 1:32pm
Thats why I was making a joke, because I knew a couple people that believed that when I was around 6 but no one else believed it and its so old. Instead some people turned it around saying that all Christians believe that today.


Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 18 December 2009 at 3:53pm
Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

Thats why I was making a joke, because I knew a couple people that believed that when I was around 6 but no one else believed it and its so old. Instead some people turned it around saying that all Christians believe that today.


No they didn't.  Some people said that some people who watch that video would think that. 


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