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Topic: Survivalist thread
Posted By: Benjichang
Subject: Survivalist thread
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 10:29am
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Inspired by some posts in one of the healthcare threads, I decided to get my gear together and take inventory. Increasingly, lately, I'm becoming more and more dissatisfied with modern life, and the direction we're all heading, and I've really been thinking about existentialism and the like. I don't think we're going to see any kind of governmental/societal collapse, but it's always fun to talk about what we would do in that case, and there's no harm in being prepared, I guess. Here's the stuff I'd take with me if I had to life off the grid for awhile. Pretty much the same stuff I take camping. This isn't the complete list, it's just a start. I'd like to include some basic fishing gear, a sheet of Tyvec, a couple tarps, and some clothes. Ruger 10/.22 would be nice to include.  Here, I have plenty of flint, steel strikers, and char cloth. In one of the tins, I have cotton balls soaked in Vaseline for tinder. It's possible to light them aflame with burning char cloth. Strike anywhere matches coated in paraffin, knives, oilstone, honing oil, tobacco pouch and pipe. Gerber hatchet, flashlights, water containers, survival bag.  Another pic. Note light sleeping bag and survival bag.  Contents of survival bag. Basic first aid kit, barley, oats, coffee, boullion cubes, brown sugar, leather lashings, pieces of leather, trail mix.  My pack. It has an internal frame. I've taken it backpacking for a few days, and it was adequate. I can strap my sleeping bag and pad to it, and have enough room for clothes, water, all the above pictured crap, plus my Tyvec ground sheet, and 2 tarps, mess kit, and stove. I'd like to get a bigger, external frame pack sometime.  Great book. I need to find my folding stove, hunting knife, sleeping pad, Tyvec, mess kit, and tarps. I'm sick, I know. :) EDIT- Anyway, post your gear if you have any. Any additions, DIY knowledge, or suggestions are encouraged. -------------  irc.esper.net #paintball |
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 11:24am
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Better reference would be the 'SAS Survival Guide'. Additions suggested, quinine tablets, water purifacation osmosis type (small can type), tin can candle reflector and 12 survival candles, snare wire, mirror (dual purpose, use to check non visable areas for parisites, signaling). Hone oil not needed, use fat rendered to oil from snared food animals. Purchase a large USAF survival knife with hollow storage handle (will hold your basics, as well as standard items issued with knife). Fishing line with 3 hooks. US military lightweigh ponco (shelter as lean to), poly sleeping pad, 200ft min paracord, cord hammock (dual purpose, sleeping and fishing net).
Tip A. If spring or early summer do not sleep directly on ground (ticks, chiggers, and other parasites more active, use hammock) Tip B. Snaring small game is a food multiplier. Use pelts as insulation, dry or smoke meat (try not to just cook and eat, food bourne illness greater chance, dried or smoked meat less prone). Render all fats to oils, preserves better and has multiple uses. Tip C. Find flat rocks to prepare your fire. Large plate rock (do not use rock from streams or submerged) for fire base, large plate rock placed at angle supported with large stones with opening towards your lean to. Heat from fire as well as radiant heat reflected into shelter. Also learn how to make a flat rock 'oven' with flat rocks sealed with dried mud. Field 'baking' also increases food, ground root flour (from wild potatoes check SAS manual on how to ID and find, very plentiful in North America)dried in sun, water, makes a good bread substitute. Tip D. The 410ga USAF M-6 survival .22 rifle over 410 shotgun better choice than .22. http://www.wildernesscanoe.org/firearms.htm - http://www.wildernesscanoe.org/firearms.htm I could go on from my SEER training but research is more fun. 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 11:29am
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My first and foremost suggestion that you're missing:
Water purification. Either tablets or another method, you're going to want clean water so you're not sick and dehydrating yourself facedown in the bushes. A small mirror can be handy in case you need to get someones attention in an aircraft or across a distance (sun reflection). Have you considered a flint? You have a knife, and matches, but flint doesn't run out. Wind up or battery powered radio? Gotta hear emergency broadcasts somehow. Not really sure what else if anything, just thinking of survival exercises in elementary school and whatnot. oh, toilet paper? Obviously cant carry much but some is better than none when you can't find it elsewhere. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 11:32am
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Dude. Where's your towel?
------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 11:36am
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Once diet shifts to non-processed foods 'toilet paper' will not be needed as body will shift back to natural hard 'pellet' form excrement.
Wind radio good idea, carry 2 dead 'd' batteries and minimal of 25 foot commo or speaker wire to erect your 3m suspended between trees antenna, dead 'd' batteries are your insulators. -------------
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Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 11:57am
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A pipe? Really? ------------- I ♣ hippies. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 12:05pm
He's got to look epic when he's airlifted out holding a shotgun, pipe hanging just so. Also, Im happy that for the most part my advice was on target, and its just off the top of my head from looking at your pics :D |
Tical3.0 wrote:Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 12:21pm
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What? no 9 volt battery and gas soaked steel wool??? ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 12:33pm
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No rope? ------------- 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 12:37pm
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Where's your NBC mask and filters? I thought you were being serious about survival.....
You need some form of direction finder (compass or dial-type wrist-watch) Wind-up radio is always good Cordage, even if it's just clothesline, is a necessity Wind-up flashlight And as choop said, water purification. I recommend a G.I. style steel or aluminum cup as well to be able to boil water or cook in. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 12:52pm
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pfft.
Here is my survivalist gear.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 12:56pm
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 1:01pm
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Worst idea ever. Very limited mobility, requires pavement, limited range, big, loud, sure to draw attention from thieves/bandits. -------------
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 1:05pm
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Im suprised nobody said this. Wind up wristwatch? ------------- 
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 1:05pm
and rogue National Guardsmen. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 1:17pm
Knowing the time isn't really that important, but dial-type watches work well as direction finders if you know how to use them. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 1:22pm
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I have no urge to live like an animal. Hopefully I will be crushed by a tank during the initial crackdown by the government.
As for your gear, you forgot a hat. Keeping the sun at bay is a necessity. Can also be used as a basket when foraging, scooping up water, fanning a fire etc. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 1:26pm
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yeah, a tent, misc books, and a bed full of misc items is much better than a fully equiped RV...
No way animals or thieves, could cut through a tent with a knife. And having your wife and family protected by walls is so ignorant, cause the roads would disappear if something happened.
Is that reverse asphalt evolution?
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 1:34pm
Yeah, every time I go camping in my tent, someone cuts it open, steals my books and has their way with my girlfriend. If only there was a better way.... FE, it's interesting to see your crazy paranoia goes beyond your computer, and goes full fledged into your camping opinions. |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 1:39pm
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Having something like that will only make you a target; a big, loud, clumsy, easy to take target. And what happens when you need more fuel? Going to go to a gas station? Good luck finding one with anything left. What happens if it breaks down, or if you get a flat? Are you going to take it to the local service station? No, you are going to be in the same situation as the rest of us. The only difference is we tent people will be prepared for it. You will be unprepared. -------------
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 1:39pm
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crazy paranoia... Or just likes A/C, and leather couches with satellite TV... While drinking an ice cold beverage, parked next to beautiful scenery.
Yeah, it must be crazy paranoia. ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 1:43pm
See my response on the last page and add to that that the only program that will be available is this:  Also, the only beautiful scenery you will be able to park to is going to be along a road, with all of the other people who are out looking for supplies so that they can survive. You're doomed. Wait a sec, I take it all back. GREAT PLAN FE! -------------
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Posted By: nickman98
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 1:44pm
fixed
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 1:49pm
good luck getting sleep in that tent. Oh yeah, you would have to keep watch all night huh... Bummer.
no worries. I can drive all the way to Florida and back on one fill of fuel. And I have 500 gallons of diesel at my farm.
I wouldn't even need to leave my property unless I wanted to. Oh, and I have horses with carriages, on and off road ATV's motorcycles and even off road golf carts if it got really bad and I needed to go somewhere.
I'm a country boy, you turn off our water, and electric and we don't even bother calling. We just crank up the generator and get water out of the well.
My family could close the gate to our property and be fine for a minimum of a year without having to even leave our property for supplies...
Course, if it did go bad, I've built my house to withstand pretty much anything...
And if it was nuclear... and we had to leave, the RV is a much better option than anything else I can think of, especially since I'd be traveling with my family and all our gear in our extra trailer that we pull behind.
but, hey, tents are good too... ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 1:58pm
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It must be nice having the peace of mind that all of your plans require refined fuels that you have a limited supply of. Al except for the horse and carriage, but you would have to use a road for that too. Roads could be blocked, bridges could be damaged or blocked, and good luck trying to hire an indian to help you get your RV across the Ohio River. Your plan requires so much limited resources and mechanical equipment that once something fails or you run out of fuel, you're screwed. Everyone else's plans require only knowledge and simple tools that are readily available. -------------
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 2:00pm
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Yeah, I'll wait to build my SHTF gear up until I'm in a cockpit. When you have to bail out of your plane in the middle of some pissed off Serbians like Dale Zelko, that's when you need to have a good plan and the right supplies to help people save your butt. The likelihood of needing to plan for the Apocalypse anywhere in the US seems a little silly. That said, being able to weather out a storm/natural disaster if the power and water go out is pretty much a given. If I didn't have the ability to do that, I would agree I'd need to step up my preparedness. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 2:16pm
Well, me to0 dumb to use knowledge and simple tools, I'm a conservative remember...
Man, I wish I had just gotten a tent and some knowledge... I could have saved $200,000 dollars.
lol.
What was the point of the "hire an indian" comment?... ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 2:25pm
| The day you bought an RV, you handed in your "country boy" or "woodsman" card for camping. It's simply revoked, because now you "camp" in a small apartment. |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 2:25pm
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For real. So much for fiscal responsibility.
The hire and indian comment was in reference to the Oregon Trail. -------------
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 2:28pm
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I know who the Tippmann militia is going to hit first...
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 2:30pm
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Well, since my family is Cherokee, you could call that our reservation. We traded in our tee pee's for triple slides.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 2:42pm
Full blooded Cherokee??? ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 2:45pm
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No, there are hardly any full blooded indians anymore... My father in law is 1/4, and playing paintball with him on the other team is NOT fun... He is by far the best player when we play, and he is almost 60. ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 2:47pm
Uh...you DID just write:
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 2:49pm
Hmm, I have to talk to a friend of mine about your claim to being "Cherokee". ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 2:49pm
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I don't think you can marry into a race. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 3:02pm
Apocalypse? On US soil? It's more likely than you think, especially when Iran, the DPRK, and Pakistan, all have nuke programs which could be sold to, or given to terrorist cells to use as dirty bombs or straight up small-scale nuke attacks. We are at more danger of nuclear attack now than we ever were in the cold war. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 3:25pm
re-read what I wrote. MY FAMILY is Cherokee...
I never said I was Cherokee...
Interesting article...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/23/fox-news-poll-say-economy-collapse/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fpolitics+%28Text+-+Politics%29&utm_content=My+Yahoo - http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/23/fox-news-poll-say-economy-collapse/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fpolitics+%28Text+-+Politics%29&utm_content=My+Yahoo ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 3:33pm
Yeah, I'm still guessing it's pretty unlikely. The likelihood of one nuke being blown up in the country? Perhaps as many as three? OK, maybe. But all out nuclear apocalypse? I think not. There's a far smaller chance of MAD now than during the Cold War, that's for sure. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 3:35pm
If it happened in your area, I'm pretty sure you'd think it was rather apocalyptic. Not to mention the chaos that would ensue if DC or NYC were hit with a dirty bomb or a nuke. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 3:41pm
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Imagination time. I am a bandit. I am looking to steal things because im a big meanie. I have a beat up mean loud dodge that me and my fellow bandits drive around and steal things with. We also have big scary guns we stole from people and diesel/gas that we killed a family for.
Now, we have the choice of looting an RV going 65 miles an hour on open road(mind you, abandoned cars would be EVERYWHERE), or we can drive through a mountain crawling at 5mph, for six hours, to kill a guy in a tent so we can still his .22, his 17 rounds of ammunition, his sleeping bag, frying pan, leatherman, a half eaten deer, and his playboy magazine.
OR, we can pepper the RV full of 7.62. If we dont kill the driver, pop the tires, turn the gas tank to swiss cheese leaving 100 gallons of diesel on the road, we're surely going to make them stop. Then we will stop and rob the county boy of his store bought food, wall mount LCD, and whatever crap we can pawn for guns food, gas, and beer.
I think ill take my chance at living in the woods. More than likely, there will be roads clogged with abandoned cars, and the only ground vehicles moving far are 4x4's. -------------
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Posted By: JohnnyHopper
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 4:42pm
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How do you prepare for the forum not working after the big fail?
(cue the nervous silence) You regulars are big talkers, but we all know what happens to junkies when the stuff runs out. Luckily I've already got a bag of freeze dried patrick, so the rest of you losers can just rock back and forth hugging your knees until the DT's kick in good. Enjoy the spiders. ------------- My shoes of peace have steel toes. |
Posted By: ThatGuitarGuy
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 5:29pm
I thought it was SERE? Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape? ------------- Skillet: I've never been terribly fond of the look of a vagina |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 5:42pm
vroom vroom... ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 6:48pm
| The survival gear thing, realistically I like enough stuff to take kayak camping someplace wild that I've always wanted to go, and fish/hunt. I like the outdoors, I get paid to go camping and work at a ski area. I find being outside worth it even if i wake up to find my head in a puddle at the bottom of a tent. Anyone who camps in an RV is a tool. What's the point? You might as well watch OLN or NatGeo in front of your LCD TV and not bother to waste the gas. Turn in your man card. I just figure the most likely bug-out scenario is to go broke/homeless. If I end up homeless I'm doing it in style. |
Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 6:52pm
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Who wants to live like that? I would just steal some cars, drive around for a while and drive off a bridge. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules> |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 6:57pm
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 7:18pm
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I plan on making a pretty detailed contribution to this thread tonight when I get home from work, but something I wanted to put out there for everyone to ponder for a bit. You would not be able to survive out in the wilderness as well as you think you would, I promise you that. FE in particular, citing the members of his family who are of native american decent; think about this. Out west, when they were sizing up the reservations, it was determined that each native american would need 3-4 square miles on average to survive. Now, even in the more lush eastern/far west areas, how much do you think that actually shrinks? What happens when people have to start hunting game to survive? Don't you think the game numbers might decrease quite a bit? And besides that, I'd be pretty impressed by someone who was able to constantly get enough game to survive. How are you going to take that many animals? With a gun? Everytime you fire a gun, you're alerting everyone within earshot that you have something valuable(food, guns, ammo, etc) and unless you're traveling in a pack(and even then) you have to sleep sometime. And the people who truly become robbers in times of need aren't going to just be cat-burglars, they'll more than likely resort to violence. I have a lot I want to say on the subject, but I'll wait till tonight when I can sift through it and just post the things that I think are extremely relevant. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 7:44pm
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Traps. -------------
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 7:45pm
| It would be a good idea to watch Haiti closely for anyone looking at a worst-case scenario.When I take a group camping, we pack a good med kit with basics first aid stuff and medications like benadryl and an eppi pen. Your best bet to have a few buddies to split the labor with. A good fire, even in a downpour is great. I use a magnesium striker and steel for a good shower of sparks, drier lint is great tinder. This is a great back-up in case anything happens with your water-proof matches or for when you run out. Everyone in your group should have the equipment to ensure their minimal individual survival needs, the rest of you can split the creature-comforts like a grate for a grill so you don't need to use soaked green branches or cook on a flat rock. Canteen-cups are great, but even a soup-can makes an ok pot. Water-purifiers are great, but I try to drink out of spring-fed, cold-water streams that provide trout, not out of beaver ponds or downstream from poop/dead things. If I can get the time off in the summer I rough it, and depending on what's in season, save the canned food for backup and leave room for more beer. The ability to preserve food is key. If I end up in a survival situation, chances are it will be less challenging than dealing with 20 city kids on a hike. Venison is one thing, but porcupine meat and frog-legs are pretty easy for a non-firearm-equipped person to live from. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 7:47pm
I'd say Argentina during their collapse is a much better example of what we could expect here in America. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 7:48pm
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The Road+Zombie Survival guide.
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 8:33pm
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I read the book that goes along with the Zombie Survival guide, but not the guide itself. For my firearms, they would be silenced the day anarchy hit. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 8:42pm
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 8:50pm
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Rule 1. Moving 'foxholes' attract attention. And attention in a hostile enviornment is never a good thing.
Reason I keep a USGS map set from Nebraska to NW Montana. And if in NY have mapset for upstae adorondak mountian areas. Cross country in Jeep as far as possible away from main highway networks. Rag top jeep, momma driven me standing with M1A (M-14). Mainly sleep during daylight, moving from 1hr BMTL(before mean twilight) for 4 hours, NDP, move 1hr BMSR (before mean sun rise) for 3-4 hours. Man has a tendancy to go inactive at twilight, fears the dark, and takes a few hours after sunrise to become 'alert'. I also have considered the higher caliber black powder rifles in concert with my modern military pieces. .54 and .58 are better 'big game' pieces than my modern military pieces, just have to get closer. Also 2lbs of black powder will last forever in plastic containers. At 80-100gr per plenty of charges. Also have my STANO for the M1A(M-14)for that long range reach out and touch amatuer wannabe despots and the usual bumpkin followers. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 8:51pm
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USAF, the game situation wouldn't actually pan out the way you'd think. Not only have deer populations exploded to greater than pre-colonial levels, but other species have been making a rapid comeback as well. It was only when animals were hunted as nuisances or pests (like wolves and foxes) that their numbers declined. Furthermore, the majority of urban and suburban dwellers out there have no clue as to how to actually shoot a deer/boar/rabbit/squirrel let alone how to clean it properly to avoid parasitic, bacterial, or viral infection when eating it. While post disaster populations would remain relatively high for the first few months, starvation and attrition would ultimately cull the herd to a much more manageable size. After all, population booms and technological advances have only been possible when surpluses of food abound. Once the bumper-crop of humans thins out over the first couple of months, things well settle into equilibrium rather quickly.
Just look at the wildlife resurgences in places like Bosnia, the DMZ, and places like Chernobyl where animals are still hunted for survival, but not for sport or as pests. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 10:09pm
Something tells me you have never heard of Buck Hunter and all those other Bambi murdering games. I've never been hunting in my life and I could tell you where to shoot the deer. INB4 head shot ------------- I ♣ hippies. |
Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 10:22pm
| I'm screwed pretty much. There is like 30 miles of city all around me and there are a couple million people around. I don't have my license yet so I can't drive anywhere, and I'm pretty much done for. Even if I did have supplies my best bet would be to hijack someones boat and go to the Bahamas because the ocean is only 10 miles away as opposed to 20 to the everglades. |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 10:32pm
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Not screwed, make a saferoom and hold up for 2 weeks as the populace does the panic and run thing. Make home lootproof or look like already looted. Controled burns of window areas to appear home already burnt out, tear rooms apart, etc.
First rule of survival in a hostile enviornment with searchers or high threat is to bore them, 2 weeks in hiding either no longer looking or search perimeter expanded too much and easily slipped through. Have a remote rural location in mind, plan indirect route, and move only in the prime move times 1hr before MSR for 2-4hours, find hide and rest, 1hr before MTL for 3-4hours and go into NDP -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 10:40pm
Do you seriously think that Joe American from NYC or Boston plays "Big Game Hunter" in the arcade when Soul Caliber and Time Crisis are sitting just down the row? That game is for rednecks who are tired of spending their welfare checks on the video poker machines down at the local sports bar. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 10:47pm
This is probably the most random thing I've ever read during my decade on this forum. |
Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 10:52pm
Thank you. Lol I would have no idea what to do. But there are a few warehouses around.... maybe I could make a saferoom in one of those. |
Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 11:11pm
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 11:17pm
Is it a wisconsin born in the mid 80's thing? That was basically a survival guide, acorn pancakes, how to tan leather. Everything you need is in that book. ------------- 
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 11:18pm
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Nah man, that was required reading down here in elementary. I remember going to the library after we read it and getting the sequel and the alternate ending. |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 23 March 2010 at 11:28pm
EDIT: Hatchet has to be required reading. Great book. Even as a kid I often got into some situations that required at least rudimentary knowledge of survival skills. Our camp has competetive fire-making as a major event. The kids gather firewood in the dark, two runners and one burner. They get two matches and a time penalty for any more matches used, and need to burn through rope soaked in fire-retardent set at a standard height, and have height limitations on their pile. It's a great exercise for survival training, especially when one kid comes back with a pile of dry branches and another one comes back with a bloody nose. Just gathering supplies will get you warm and keep you focused. This stuff should be an elective in schools, even if the kids end up in tent cities they should be able to cook a pidgeon. |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 12:36am
Srsly, it's one of the most universally useful things in the universe.
You know, I just found a way to make an AK, a few clips, a bad attitude, and a few similarly situated friends turn into an RV full of barter-able goods and slave-hostages! How a gigantic RV would be a good idea in a territory that is filled with people panicking because the shtuff HTF recently, people who are desperate because it hit the fan in the relatively distant future and attrition is becoming a huge concern, people who are hostile to the natives because they are an invading force, or any combination of the above I'll never know. Unless this was just FE flaunting how rich he is. Elitist.
I think that if it was just a few strikes on non-DC cities, the chaos (the sort requiring survivalist gear/mentalities) would be short-lived. The attack would ignite a firestorm of patriotism and giving that would supply the areas with plenty of whatever is needed. DC would be problematic, but I still don't think it would cause a situation requiring a long-term strategy for survival in harsh conditions. NYC would be a much more deadly attack, but aside from economic damages and the depression that would result, again, not something that would require everyone to become operators. ------------- 
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 12:46am
QFT ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 12:52am
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Toothpaste for dinner and a big salmon squirrel comes round once in a blue cockle jar my friend. Remember to always make sure the farmers head is shining directly east before you wank a goose.
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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 12:59am
It may be an odd post... but honestly I would prefer that sometimes. ------------- 
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 1:15am
See, now he's just messing with us. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 1:17am
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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 2:09am
LOLWUT? |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 9:04am
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Heh, wow. Can't believe this made it to 4 pages. Depending on how populated the area is, I think people might be surprised at how many edible critters exist on relatively small pieces of land. A .22 would be ideal, since it isn't very loud. Also, don't underestimate the killing power of a .22 to the head. ------------- irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 10:41am
Lol. I know the first thing I'm going to do is try to rob people who clearly have, and know how to use firearms. Best self-preservation technique evar. |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 12:37pm
Guns. Ammo. With those you can get whatever else you need.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 12:48pm
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very true mack.
The single most important thing to have is the ability to trade, and barter with people, while not getting yourself killed.
My nickname has been free enterprise since I was a kid, because I can wheel and deal. My sister says I could sell ice to eskimo's.
Probably true, and that is more important that what you have currently, as you will always need things in a survival situation.
What do you have to trade, and how do you trade it... That is the key.
plus ammo. TONS of ammo. I keep all kinds of extra ammo as well, even stuff that I don't have guns for currently, because ammo is worth a lot more than cash money... ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 12:49pm
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^^^ Yeah, trading . . . that's what I meant.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 3:40pm
So you willing to trade your RV full of supplies and ammo or should I just shoot you and take it? ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 3:56pm
Shooting to eat =/= competent defense skills. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: I_KEEL_YOU
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 7:16pm
| I pack survival gear for crew members on C-17s and KC-10s in the Air Force. Don't forget to pack your flares! |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 8:04pm
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I'd LOVE to say that I've got it all planned out, that I'd take to the woods with the family and rough it with a handful of survivors until things got better....but lately, I realized what fate my luck would hand me. You know those movies like Godzilla or something when you are first introduced to the monster or evil anomaly that the good guys will spend the rest of the movie battling....there's always some poor idiot that is in the wrong place at the wrong time, a random taxi that gets stepped on, or sewer worker that gets eaten first....usually before the opening theme has even faded out. That's going to be me. In the great apocalyptic event that will befall us that will see you guys taking to the woods or hunkering down in your RV (really?) I will be "Man in Taxi" ------------- ? |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 10:27pm
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^^^ I think you're wrong . . . . . . you'll be "Man in a company car." -------------
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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 10:34pm
"Man in a taxi after company car suffered some implausible breakdown" ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 11:04pm
"Man in a taxi after company car blew up because Reb let Merc work on it" ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 24 March 2010 at 11:17pm
wow do you guys Suck at this. Luckly I have done enough work on this to make a cool bullet style presentation.
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 25 March 2010 at 12:35am
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Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 25 March 2010 at 8:07am
------------- irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 25 March 2010 at 10:41am
 ------------- oreomann33: Everybody invades Poland Rofl_Mao: And everyone eats turkey Me: But only if they're hungary Mack: Yeah but hungary people go russian through their food and end up with greece on everyth |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 25 March 2010 at 10:50am
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