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Topic: Damage already done move along nothing to see here
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Subject: Damage already done move along nothing to see here
Date Posted: 25 March 2010 at 12:33pm
$10,000. Cash...
 
 
http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2010/03/25/2010-a-race-odyssey-disproving-a-negative-for-cash-prizes-or-how-the-civil-rights-movement-jumped-the-shark/#more-95962 - http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2010/03/25/2010-a-race-odyssey-disproving-a-negative-for-cash-prizes-or-how-the-civil-rights-movement-jumped-the-shark/#more-95962
 
 
 
We all know that they won't respond, because they have already received $200,000 worth of free media publicity from the MSM that again labeled the Tea party members as racists...
 
 
 
No video, no proof...
 
 
and now, a $10,000 challenge.
 


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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 25 March 2010 at 12:56pm
Anyone who doubts there is any racism in a large group of middle-class white people is ignant. There is no doubt in my mind that there are people in the tea-party movement whose heart skips a beat when they see a group of black people walking towards them, or who attribute the crimes committed by inner-city blacks to skin color rather than socioeconomic standing or the subculture that is so prevalent in areas like that.

What has been presented by people who are against the tea-party movement is misleading, though. Racist as some of the tea-party goers most definitely are, that has nothing to do with what they are directly trying to accomplish (it could be argued that there are racist intents in continuing to make it difficult to remove oneself from the sort of environment that is so commonly associated with predominantly black areas, but meh). As grounded as the accusations of racism might be for certain individuals in the movement, it is not a point that should be considered in any sort of intellectual argument about the tea-party movement.

That said, it is EXTREMELY annoying that biggovernment.com is effectively replying to those accusations with a "NUH UH! PROVE IT!" as if the racism isn't there because it is not as overt as in KKK rallies. Too often racists respond by simply denying it, convincing themselves that they aren't racist or how they act isn't racist, or by saying things like "I don't hate black people, just the way black people act." It is sad how racist this country remains.


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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 25 March 2010 at 4:15pm
Seriously?  He wants video proof?  Have you ever tried to use a cameraphone to record something where it was extremely loud?  You can't make out what anyone is saying, much a single person shouting a single word.  You can even use the videos on his page to see this.  Barring the parts where everyone is changing in unison, can you pick out what one single person is yelling?  No?  I didn't think so.


Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 25 March 2010 at 4:18pm
Originally posted by Gatyr Gatyr wrote:

Anyone who doubts there is any racism in a large group of middle-class white people is ignant. There is no doubt in my mind that there are people in the tea-party movement whose heart skips a beat when they see a group of black people walking towards them, or who attribute the crimes committed by inner-city blacks to skin color rather than socioeconomic standing or the subculture that is so prevalent in areas like that.

What has been presented by people who are against the tea-party movement is misleading, though. Racist as some of the tea-party goers most definitely are, that has nothing to do with what they are directly trying to accomplish (it could be argued that there are racist intents in continuing to make it difficult to remove oneself from the sort of environment that is so commonly associated with predominantly black areas, but meh). As grounded as the accusations of racism might be for certain individuals in the movement, it is not a point that should be considered in any sort of intellectual argument about the tea-party movement.

That said, it is EXTREMELY annoying that biggovernment.com is effectively replying to those accusations with a "NUH UH! PROVE IT!" as if the racism isn't there because it is not as overt as in KKK rallies. Too often racists respond by simply denying it, convincing themselves that they aren't racist or how they act isn't racist, or by saying things like "I don't hate black people, just the way black people act." It is sad how racist this country remains.

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Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 26 March 2010 at 1:08am
I think both sides here are being stupid. The tea party people shouldn't be spending their time denying the racism thing as that just draws attention to it and plants the ridiculous idea in peoples heads, thus being counter productive. They should instead just devote their energy to informing people about why they're doing all that. As for the other faction here, they need to get over the fact that not everything is about race. Racism absolutely still exists and there are definitely people who don't like Obama or any other black person simply because of their race but that doesn't mean that anybody who challenges a black person is racist. There's a good chance that some of the tea party people were racist but that has nothing to do with the tea party thing. It's a lame attempt to discredit the protesters. The call for proof seems kind of stupid but honestly, if people are going to claim something like that to be true when there's no reasonable connection, they should back it with something. That said, calling for them to back it up is kind of silly. They obviously can't and anybody with half a brain can see how stupid that accusation is in the absence of proof.

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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 26 March 2010 at 3:00am
2010: A Race Odyssey — Disproving a Negative for Cash Prizes or, How the Civil Rights Movement Jumped the Shark

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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 26 March 2010 at 3:30am
My current required Multi-Cultural education class curriculum is dependent on similar arguements to those put forth by the anti-tea party types. Mainly the conclusions tha all white people, with the exception of those who activly persure social reforms which are indeistinguishable from socialism either are active or passive participants in a rasicst society. Education being funded at the state and local level is inherently racist because it allows people to decide what schools their children go to, and white parents are encouraged to move out of neighborhoods and move their children into prodominantly white school because there is an economic reward for teir children by doing so. Therefore, schools should be nationally funded and run on  national curriculum, and parents should have no say in what schools yheir children attend. Any whit person who is not a marxist or socialist is a racist.

While white-flight is  a legitimate historical phenominon, supposedley liberal educators, who should know from basic scientific reasoning that correlation does not prove causation, is based on wanting their children to attend the best performing schools. And since the worst performing scools are typically predominantly African-American, a white person not wanting to send their children there is automaicly primarily motivated by racism. the agenda behind this seems to be more federal control over education and less parental input over curriculum and what school their children are allowed to attend. I fully understand that there are wackos on both sides of the aisle, but you cannot ignore that the more socialist members of the left-wing think hey are winning, and are activley seeking to brand any opposition to their agenda is being racist, pretty much invoking Godwin immediatly. I can produce the articles that are required reading on demand by tomorrow if anyone wishes to read them. They do have their merrits, but the major conclusion of most of them seems to be that only a socialist politicl and econimc system can be non-racist/sexist, and that capitalism, western philosophy, and religion is inherently opposed to equality. The most ironic part of the required reading is that one of the major authors(who seems reaonable to me) believes that multi-culturl education should not be taught as a seperate subject but that different viewpoints should be adressed in class material, especially in the social studies curriculum. However, we are expected, s a major part of our grade, to summarize the readings  without and personal responses and for full credit must present the article's conclusions as indisputble facts. this class is required in the state of Massachusetts for all woud-be educators. I honestly have no problem with the instructor, the students, or even the reading material, but the method of assessment and the fact that it is required as a seperate course as both hypocritical to expressed ideals of the class as well as those ideals our country is founded upon. If you want any actual assigned readings for this class, PM me and I will copy-paste and cite sources. In the event I fail this class and need to tke it again next year in order to graduate, I will be happy to post video of any class, especially considering that from what I have heard from students, the professor who teaches the other section beleives that only whites can be racist (and that anywho are not as left wing as possible are part of the problem) and therefore grades them differently while automatically passing stusdents of color. I've worked with, lived with, gone to school  with, and been close friends with people of all races, and I can't think of anything that has made me more racially uncomfortable than this class. From what I've heard about the other professor (who wrote the syllabus) Evil Elvis is not actualy hispanic because he is not financially depedent on the governent, just like minorities who vote Republican are self-hating becaused they have been brain-washed by the majority culture.

Granted, I'm in one of the most liberally-influenced majors in one of the most liberal states in the union, and most, if not all of my fellow students beleive this is total bunk (including students of color) and that the point of the class may be to see another way of viewing racial issues and recognizing our own, usually latent racism,  rather than changing beliefs. Thi still is fuel for the ultra right wing, and for racists, and their reactions fuel the ultra-left. The more I learn about our education system, the more disturbed I am by the way things are going.


Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 26 March 2010 at 7:41am
I would be interested in seeing what they are using. I realize that Mass is the most blue of states, but our education should be that, education, not indoctrination.
 
A true education is one where mulitiple viewpoints are presented with their good/bad parts, instead of cherrypicking one bad side and focusing on that while only presenting the side you believe in with positive points.
 
I witnessed this firsthand while being public educated in NC. I went to NC state for a semester and transferred out because of the extremely liberal professors I encountered. (and this was in 1990...)
 
I am excited to watch as the youth of today will take technology and record what goes on in class, so that the public can get a first hand look at what is deemed as "teaching" today...
 
Only then will these professors realize that they can't force their will on people by attacking anyone who believes differently.
 
This liberal prejudice towards conservatives has gone on long enough.


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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 26 March 2010 at 8:03am
Eh, it's been white = racist for a long time, I've stopped caring.

Rather than attempt to prove that Im a not racist to the (predominately white) people who choose to classify me as such, I just respond with who cares? Racism is of itself an overly but rarely intelligently used word.

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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 26 March 2010 at 8:32am
 
 
 
bummer for the soccer players who are shown in this video. I half expected him to go down on the ground and start convulsing in agony. I think we have an oscar level actor on our hands with this one.
 
Notice this is the same walk where "the n word" was shouted over and over (16 times according to the liars and yet this video has perfect audio...
 
That's weird. I don't see it.
 
And yet.
 
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=tea%20party%20yells%20n%20word%20spits&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&sa=N&tab=wn&fp=467c3568f2eec009 - http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=tea%20party%20yells%20n%20word%20spits&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbs=nws:1&sa=N&tab=wn&fp=467c3568f2eec009
 
the message is already out there.
 
 
 
but, notice they didn't show the actual video... Coincidence? I'm sure...


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 1:30pm
Oh, lookie, a sports writer sets America straight. (why is it that sports writers seem to be the quintessential liberal mouthpieces?)
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/03/29/2010-03-29_hate_just_drips_from_tea_party.html - http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/03/29/2010-03-29_hate_just_drips_from_tea_party.html
 
Let's review the problems with his article...
 
Again, the calls of racism from nonexistant use of "the n word" 16 times, but never caught on the hundreds of video cameras that were rolling... Including the cameras by the actual staff members who were walking through the "mob" to TRY and get something on tape. They didn't (see above) so they made it up. Typical.
 
Then the whole "spit" thing again... See video above. another act of fiction. That wasn't a congressman being "spit" on.
 
Then slamming palin... yeah, that never gets old for libs. I'm surprised he didn't go after her kids...
 
Oh, and Bart Stupak was called a baby killer... Oh, wait.. The congress man who yelled "IT'S a baby killer" referring to the bill wasn't calling stupak a baby killer, but don't let the facts get in the way of your rant, chump.
 
Then there is this...
 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/03/29/new-york-sportswriter-attacks-tea-partiers-and-sarah-palin - http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/03/29/new-york-sportswriter-attacks-tea-partiers-and-sarah-palin
 
 
so typical, of the left. And here I thought crying "fire" in a crowded theater was frowned upon... Yet the liberals do it daily with their one sided rants against we the people.
 
Oh, and just to make this a fair and balanced report. I give you this.
 
http://www.freep.com/article/20100329/NEWS06/100329040/1320/Brick-smashes-GOP-office-window-in-Howell - http://www.freep.com/article/20100329/NEWS06/100329040/1320/Brick-smashes-GOP-office-window-in-Howell
 
http://www.whmi.com/news/article/9917 - http://www.whmi.com/news/article/9917
 
http://www.livingstondaily.com/article/20100329/NEWS01/100329004/Livingston+Fix+Michigan+office+vandalized - http://www.livingstondaily.com/article/20100329/NEWS01/100329004/Livingston+Fix+Michigan+office+vandalized +
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/28/AR2010032803181.html?hpid=topnews - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/28/AR2010032803181.html?hpid=topnews
 
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/local-breaking-news/virginia/virginia-gop-office-vandalized.html - http://voices.washingtonpost.com/local-breaking-news/virginia/virginia-gop-office-vandalized.html
 
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/3/27/851166/-Break-the-cycle - http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/3/27/851166/-Break-the-cycle
 
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/03/a-gop-leader-reports-threats-assails-democrats/1 - http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/03/a-gop-leader-reports-threats-assails-democrats/1


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 12:49pm
 
 
 
Well, guess we all know that Al Sharpton is a big liar...
 
"I've seen the tape"... Yeah, Ok, Al...
 
 
 
what a bunch of race baiters.


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Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 1:14pm
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

 
 
 
Well, guess we all know that Al Sharpton is a big liar...
 
"I've seen the tape"... Yeah, Ok, Al...
 
 
 
what a bunch of race baiters.


I'm not a fan of O'Reilly but I greatly dislike Al Sharpton. I really don't understand why he has any political influence whatsoever.


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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 3:10pm
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Notice this is the same walk where "the n word" was shouted over and over (16 times according to the liars and yet this video has perfect audio...
 

That's weird. I don't see it.


So that one single vantage point covers the entire area, and can pick up audio from every single source? Wow, that's some pretty amazing technology, I wonder if anyone else knows about that yet.

Oh wait, no, thats a load of bull.


Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 3:24pm
what is a load of bull is the way the media has repeated the lies. Watch the video. Count the video cameras, even one of the aids that walked with them was carrying TWO himself.
 
If what they "say" happened. There would be video, as there were tons of cameras filming at the time.
 
And yet, ZERO footage...
 
 
That isn't just crazy it is impossible.
 
Pretending that this is the only footage is silly. I could post tons more if you like and not one of them shows what they said happened...
 
 
Not to mention you have Al sharpton saying "I saw the video"... Which doesn't exist... and when he was called on it, he tried to spin it like, well it was written by reporters...
 
 


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 3:29pm
 
 
Hmm, so instead of walking around the barracades, they go right through the middle of the crowd... While filming their own cameras... Yeah, they weren't looking for footage of "something" to hang the tea party crowd with...
 
nothing happened. So they lied. No surprise there... And the media ate it up, and repeated it over and over and over...
 
so typical.
 


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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 3:40pm
Its true, only the left lies.


Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 4:02pm

nice deflection attempt.

Do you think he was called the "n" word 16 times as was reported by the media, now that you watched the video of the actual event?
 
Also, do you think that other guy was "spit" on as was repeated countless times?
 
 
What we have here is the left attacking the peaceful tea party protestors, calling them names, and making them out to be radicals.
 
We all know what typical leftist "protestors" look like, they burn, cuss, and destroy property. Those are the ones that they are trying to pin on the tea party.
 
Just look at how many times they point out that the tea party protestors were using obama/hitler signs, when everyone knows that was laroush who printed those signs and they are NOT right wing... But, they are members of the tea party... That is weird, I though only righties were in the tea party... Oh, yeah, another lie by the media.
 
 
 
Here are some reid protestors... Wonder what they will do/say.
 
 
Was that on the news?... Nope... even though they were throwing eggs at the tea party express bus.
 


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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 4:05pm
Here's the elephant in the room. Is what inner city minorities are facing racism, or is it class-ism? I'm more inclined to believe it is the later rather than the former. Here are the reasons.

1) The color of ones skin has less to do today with first impressions than the style of dress and mannerisms. When people see a black/latino/asian man walking down the street holding a briefcase and wearing a suit and tie, they are far less likely to harbor feelings of prejudice than if the same person were walking down the street with his pants down around his knees with a long white t-shirt and a ball-cap perched sideways on his head. This has been proven time and time again in studies on racial perception by major polling companies and universities all over the nation. The reason that the perception is better for the man in the suit than the man with the droopy drawers is that people believe the man in the suit is better educated, holds a steady job, and provides for his family in a legal and legitimate manner. The perception is the opposite concerning the same subject when wearing the dropped pants, long white t-shirt, and ball cap. This perception can be applied to ALL races. The fact of the matter is that people consider "poor trash" to be "poor trash" whether they're white, latino, asian, or black. If you saw a white person wearing a business suit, briefcase, and tie and that same person wearing drooping pants, a long white t-shirt, and ball cap, you'd have the same perception that this person was trouble.

The same conclusions can be drawn from conversations with people. Education is highly regarded in our nation. Literacy, proper use of grammar, and etiquette are held in high regard and always have been. The same conclusions are drawn regardless of race when people use incorrect grammar or are rude. Y'all is just as bad as any grammatical error ingrained in the vernacular of inner city minorities. Regardless of the error or misuse, regardless of the manner in which the person is rude, the lack of education and etiquette is derogatory to the perception of the observer regardless of race.

2) Microcultures contribute to derogatory perception regardless of race. The microculture of inner city life is yet another factor which, regardless of race, makes people look down upon others. Inner city poor tend to place their priorities differently than more educated and more well to do microcultures in the suburbs and in the more affluent neighborhoods of the city. Whereas the priorities of the poor tend to be more focused on the basic necessities of life, the poor tend to not use any surplus of funds to start a savings account or purchase items which will appreciate in value making for good investments. The poor tend to live in the paycheck-to-paycheck mentality that promotes instant gratification because you never know when you'll be able to afford this particular perk/excess again. In the inner city this spending usually manifests itself in designer clothes, expensive cell phones, upgrades to vehicles, or expensive electronics. The rural poor tend to do the same thing with purchases on vehicle upgrades, expensive RVs, ATVs, firearms, and electronics as well. The difference between ghetto hood rat and poor white trash is simply the difference between low-income housing blocks and trailer parks or Sean-Jean versus Mossy Oak. This lack of planning for the future and expending resources for instant gratification goes against the very core of human nature and what we have instilled in ourselves as the "right" thing to do for thousands of years. We even teach it to our children in parables and fables such as the ant and the grasshopper. These are deep seated values that transcend racial boundaries and affect our perception of others regardless of skin color.

Now, these findings have been continually perverted by those wishing to claim racism is still very much alive and well in all sectors of our society for their own gain. People like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson claim that racism still abounds because it brings people to their cause and their coffers. Groups like the NAACP claim that these socio-economic factors only exist because of inherent racism rather than the priorities which are expressed in these microcultures. These groups want racism to be very much alive because it brings members, and more importantly, money to them.

I will admit right here and now that I am not racist, but am very classist. I don't see the color of a person's skin, but I do see the image that they wish to project to the world, and if that image is of ignorance and self-generated poverty, then I'm less likely to give them a chance in this world. It doesn't matter if they're black, white, asian, latino, purple or whatever. If they can't bring themselves to the level of respectability that I require in my own life, then they're going to have that hanging over their heads. I think that this is the way the majority of people in this nation feel. They don't care what skin color you have, they care about how you conduct yourself and how you manage your business.

What really gets me is when people who want to cry "racism" defend the so-called "culture" of the ghetto. They claim that baggy pants, rap music, and long white t-shirts are a "cultural" phenomenon that is linked with the "black race" and thus discrimination against people in this attire is discrimination against blacks rather than against a class.

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 4:06pm
Lol@the hardass,

"Get him out of here or I am going to jail today" What an idiot.


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 4:07pm
 
and just for fun...
 
 


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 4:13pm
I stopped watching that video when it talked about Germany...like that's relevant.

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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 4:17pm
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:


What we have here is the left attacking the peaceful tea party protestors, calling them names, and making them out to be radicals.


Yeah, because they're totally educated rational people.


Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 4:21pm
You love that broad brush, huh...
 
This guy donated to Obama's campaign, does that make everyone who did that the same as him?
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/29/AR2010032903815.html?nav=hcmodule - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/29/AR2010032903815.html?nav=hcmodule


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 4:30pm
here is a tea party member, going up against a CNN host and wackjob congressman from florida...
 
Race baiting comes to mind.
 
 
The tea party guy was the only guy with class on this segment...
 
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2010/03/30/cb.tea.party.rolls.cnn - http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2010/03/30/cb.tea.party.rolls.cnn


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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 10:03pm
Guys guys guys. It's obvious that when a group of liberals act in a certain way, it is fine for people to attribute it to their liberalism and expect other liberals to act that way as well. But don't you DARE take the actions/feelings of tea-party members and do the same thing. Das just WRONG.

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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 31 March 2010 at 10:31am
Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Lol@the hardass,

"Get him out of here or I am going to jail today" What an idiot.


He's planning on giving suit-boy a serious Birkenstock to the butt.

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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 31 March 2010 at 10:46am
well, well... The egg thrower worked for the union... I am shocked.
 
http://biggovernment.com/amarcus/2010/03/30/video-the-egg-man-of-seachlight-nevada/ - http://biggovernment.com/amarcus/2010/03/30/video-the-egg-man-of-seachlight-nevada/
 
http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2010/03/30/i-am-the-walrus-jesse-walker-ibew-local-357-in-las-vegas-is-the-eggman/ - http://biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2010/03/30/i-am-the-walrus-jesse-walker-ibew-local-357-in-las-vegas-is-the-eggman/
 
and the union vp was there too...
 
http://biggovernment.com/sright/2010/03/31/meet-another-one-of-harry-reids-rent-a-thugs-edward-eddie-gering/ - http://biggovernment.com/sright/2010/03/31/meet-another-one-of-harry-reids-rent-a-thugs-edward-eddie-gering/
 
 
And the media ignores...
 
Jmac, just for you... Google "pajamasmedia searchlight zombie". profanity warning from the left. hence I didn't link. but it is two protests... one week apart, do you see any differences?
 
 
oh, I forgot to mention, the reward is now $100,000 for proof the "n" word was used as was stated by the MSM all weekend.


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 31 March 2010 at 3:28pm
Why are you telling me to search for videos I do not care about?

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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 31 March 2010 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

"pajamasmedia"

LOL conservative bias.

But that's okay because of the bias that liberal outlets have, amirite?


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 April 2010 at 9:52am
Naa, the major media isn't biased, they are just liars and manipulators.
 
Like the "n" word story, that was composed and printed in 90 minutes...
 
It just isn't believable, and yet...
 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2010/04/02/mcclatchy-reporter-speed-writes-d-c-tea-party-story-record-time#new - http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2010/04/02/mcclatchy-reporter-speed-writes-d-c-tea-party-story-record-time#new
 
That is some non biased reporting right there.
 
I wonder when they will catch up to this story...
 
http://biggovernment.com/sright/2010/04/02/did-the-democratic-party-field-director-lie-to-police/#more-100190 - http://biggovernment.com/sright/2010/04/02/did-the-democratic-party-field-director-lie-to-police/#more-100190
 
never would be my guess.
 
Oh, wait, the liberal mouthpiece Jon Stewart has now covered it... So maybe?...
 
http://www.foundingbloggers.com/wordpress/2010/04/founding-bloggers-on-the-daily-show/ - http://www.foundingbloggers.com/wordpress/2010/04/founding-bloggers-on-the-daily-show/
 
Oh and the tuff guy was outed...
 
http://biggovernment.com/amarcus/2010/04/01/is-jim-nardi-the-man-who-threatened-andrew-breitbart/ - http://biggovernment.com/amarcus/2010/04/01/is-jim-nardi-the-man-who-threatened-andrew-breitbart/
 
 
 
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 02 April 2010 at 10:12am
The Dems are following Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' to a tee. For 8 years we listened to them rails against Bush, and now dissent against Obama is considered racist or bigoted.

The Florida Doctor that posted the sign on his door shows how well he as a medical proffesional sees the future of medicine.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-mount-dora-doctor-tells-patients-go-aw20100401,0,6040296,full.story - http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-mount-dora-doctor-tells-patients-go-aw20100401,0,6040296,full.story

and it his right to do so.

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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 02 April 2010 at 11:03am
Why do you guys expect Democratic politicians to be any different than Republican ones?

Furthermore, why would you require it?  I don't think anyone here is claiming that just because they say something, it's right.


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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 02 April 2010 at 11:57am
We don't we are only concerned with the current administration as well as supporters 'new' view on dissent. The Tea Party is considered evil, while Code Pink and the simular 'Leftist' groups during the Bush administration were 'patriotic'. The true nature of the level of violence and rhetoric from the left is well documented. If a fantasy film on the Assasination of Obama were made the uproar would be deafening from the Left, but the actual movie made on the fantasy Assasination of Bush was hailed by the left.

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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 02 April 2010 at 12:25pm
And somehow conservatives are different?

Moaning and complaining from both sides gets all of us nowhere.  Ignore the stuff that doesn't matter.


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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 02 April 2010 at 1:52pm
Originally posted by ParielIsBack ParielIsBack wrote:

And somehow conservatives are different?


Yeah, they are . . . and I will hold that view until you show me the fantasy President Obama assassination movie.


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 April 2010 at 2:10pm
Idk mack...
 
You do realize that the tea party protests are full of hate mongering, and blatant racism, right?... I know cause every news story, and paper tells me this everyday.
 
I even saw Obama with a hitler mousestash (yeah, that is how it is spelt) cause those crazy liberals tea party members are all racist anti communists.
 
laRouche members are conservatives btw.
 
 
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 8:00am
more violence spurred on by the tea party.
 
http://www.marionstar.com/article/20100401/NEWS01/4010315 - http://www.marionstar.com/article/20100401/NEWS01/4010315
 
Those mean tea party members throwing bricks and making death threats.
 
And then someone comes out and proves it with a poll like this...
 
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/90541-survey-four-in-10-tea-party-members-dem-or-indie - http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/90541-survey-four-in-10-tea-party-members-dem-or-indie
 
 
Too bad the media painted the tea party to all be republican hacks. Now they can't blame this uprising on the tea party unless it goes against the democrats.
 
Facts are funny.
 
40% of Tea party members are demcrats and independents...
 
 
 
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 9:56am
Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by ParielIsBack ParielIsBack wrote:

And somehow conservatives are different?


Yeah, they are . . . and I will hold that view until you show me the fantasy President Obama assassination movie.


I don't think any liberals were arrested for actually trying to kill Bush.  Furthermore, that movie was produced in another country.

Also, the people who want Bush dead are the people who lost sons and daughters fighting wars he started.  So far, the only people who've plotted to kill Obama have been rascists.  Pretty sure reasonable doesn't fall towards the right on this one.


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 1:40pm

Wra Roah! (another scoobie appearance)

You know those Radical Christian Militia members that were part of the tea party, and planning on killing everyone?...
 
"Most of the indicted militia members accused of being anti-government extremists have active voting records, a check with area voter registration offices showed yesterday.

One is a registered Democrat, and the party affiliations of the rest could not be determined.

Jacob J. Ward, 33, of Huron, Ohio, voted as a Democrat in the 2004 and 2008 primary elections. He also voted in 10 other elections since 2000. Party affiliation in Ohio is determined by which party's ballot they requested in the most recent primary election."
 
 
http://toledoblade.com/article/20100401/NEWS16/4010369 - http://toledoblade.com/article/20100401/NEWS16/4010369


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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 7:45pm
First of all, if you're referencing my post, that's not who I was talking about.

Second, if you think that the militia members were anything but far right wingers, you are loony.

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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 8:33pm
Thus far, FE is correct in pointing out that a lot of claims have been made about 'tea party' protesters that simply have not been substantiated. Frankly, I don't expect that they will be. I frequent another site where many posters lean far enough right to fall smack into the 'tea party' demographic, and most are motivated by honest distaste by the actions of the American government. By and large the 'tea party' movement is not some insidious uprising of closet racists. It's just a big group of concerned Americans whose politics differ from most of the members here.

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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 8:41pm
And can't seem to spell.


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 8:44pm
But at least they don't start their sentences with "and."

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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 8:48pm
Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

But at least they don't start their sentences with "and."

Starting a sentence with a different but grammatically equal conjunction FTW!


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Yup, he actually said that.


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 8:51pm
Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

But at least they don't start their sentences with "and."

Starting a sentence with a different but grammatically equal conjunction FTW!


I know . . . I looked it up on http://www.wisegeek.com/are-you-really-not-allowed-to-start-a-sentence-with-and-but-or-because.htm - this site just so I could do it.

I have to admit the reaction was much quicker than I expected.  (Plus, I really expected Whale to call me on it.)


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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 8:58pm
Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

But at least they don't start their sentences with "and."

Starting a sentence with a different but grammatically equal conjunction FTW!


I know . . . I looked it up on http://www.wisegeek.com/are-you-really-not-allowed-to-start-a-sentence-with-and-but-or-because.htm - this site just so I could do it.

I have to admit the reaction was much quicker than I expected.  (Plus, I really expected Whale to call me on it.)

No, his whipping post is '-ly' modifiers.


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Yup, he actually said that.


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 05 April 2010 at 8:59pm
^^^Darn, you're rightly; I forgotly about that.

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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 06 April 2010 at 8:48am
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZjQ4NmE4ZWU1ZWIyYzc4NGZjMDE3MzI5ZmUwNGJhMjE -
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Mjg1NTI4M2VkZmNjZWNmZWJjOWVjMWNkNGExOWRjMWI=
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 21 April 2010 at 2:29pm
Classic example of why MSM (main street media) is dead. Take for example the new york times.
 
In their opinion section on Friday they printed this jewel of tolerance.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/17/opinion/17blow.html - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/17/opinion/17blow.html
 
I haven't seen that much race baiting since... well, last week, with the whole "someone" called someone the N word 16 times... But magically the unicorn erased all of the video proof from the thousands of cameras following the "victims" as they ran the gauntlet trying to provoke a response...
 
So the media invented one...
 
Anyway, this video response (new media who will now proceed to CRUSH, old media) made me laugh. More than once.
 
 


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 27 April 2010 at 8:37am
http://bigjournalism.com/abreitbart/2010/04/26/no-more-beer-summits-tea-party-n-word-incident-didnt-happen-and-the-congressional-black-caucus-owes-america-an-apology/#more-56242 - http://bigjournalism.com/abreitbart/2010/04/26/no-more-beer-summits-tea-party-n-word-incident-didnt-happen-and-the-congressional-black-caucus-owes-america-an-apology/#more-56242
 
 
wow... "n" word story was completely fabricated... But, no matter, the damage is already done...
 
"The power of the propaganda. The power of the repeated accusations. The power of the relentless race-based line of questioning. They are all adding up to the liars and slanderers getting exactly what they wanted. The Tea Party is marred by racism charges while Congressman Carson, at the least, should be facing an ethics investigation, and a civil rights legend should be asking for forgiveness for allowing for the hateful lie to stand.

The “win” Ben Smith speaks of comes in the form of silence. Our nation is split down the middle and the press has chosen to play for one side and one side only."



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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 27 April 2010 at 8:39pm
http://www.newsweek.com/id/236996 - Are Tea Partiers Racist?

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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 27 April 2010 at 9:14pm
Originally posted by home page home page wrote:

I use this bit of information as a backdrop to welcome you to the website of the University of Washington's Institute for the Study or Ethnicity, Race, and Sexuality. The Institute, founded in April 2006, was created for the specific purpose of refocusing our research efforts on those segments of society who remain under-represented in the halls of power, in the boardrooms of American, and in the academy. Moreover, the inequalities in American life exist within a context of global inequality across nations, peoples and hemispheres, inequities that directly reflect those we observe at home. Faculty, staff, and graduate students participating in the Institute share a research emphasis on those under-represented or disadvantaged groups, the challenges they face, their histories and stories, and most importantly their futures.

The Institute provides a variety of public and academic programs which aim to raise our awareness and knowledge of these groups and celebrate their contributions to the fabric of human society. From time to time, we will host research seminars, informal presentations, and formal academic conferences as well as to sponsor graduate student research and travel. We invite you to come and join us.
As noted above, this is the intro for the home page of theUniversity of Washington's Institute for the Study or Ethnicity, Race, and Sexuality.  There's nothing wrong with this home page; these are lofty and worthwhile goals.  However, it does not necessarily  make for the most unbiased of studies on a group they consider the political opposition. 


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 28 April 2010 at 7:53am

And ANOTHER video that shows multiple angles of the mob that "attacked" this liar.

No "n" word, no threat, no rocks thrown, and yet every MSM outlet made this story the headline story that day, and not one has looked into it or retracted the story.
 
The media in this country is a joke, they only care about pushing their politics, instead of finding the truth.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 28 April 2010 at 7:58am
Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Notice this is the same walk where "the n word" was shouted over and over (16 times according to the liars and yet this video has perfect audio...

 

That's weird. I don't see it.


So that one single vantage point covers the entire area, and can pick up audio from every single source? Wow, that's some pretty amazing technology, I wonder if anyone else knows about that yet.

Oh wait, no, thats a load of bull.
 
 
Care to change your opinion, now that I have posted multiple video's from tons of angles, which ALL prove that this guy is a big fat liar?
 
No "n" word, no physical attempts to attack... Shoot, if he had stopped for a second, the worst he would have gotten was some old grandma might have started to pray for him...
 
And we know that would be seen as a racist assault on democracy.


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Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 28 April 2010 at 12:55pm
Originally posted by mbro mbro wrote:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/236996 - Are Tea Partiers Racist?


Meh, the sample questions in the article seemed kind of stupid, I don't know that this survey is tremendously accurate at detecting racism but it's interesting nonetheless. After reading that I saw a link to something else that's semi-interesting:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/236856?obref=obinsite - the coffee party movement

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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 28 April 2010 at 3:31pm
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Notice this is the same walk where "the n word" was shouted over and over (16 times according to the liars and yet this video has perfect audio...

 

That's weird. I don't see it.
So that one single vantage point covers the entire area, and can pick up audio from every single source? Wow, that's some pretty amazing technology, I wonder if anyone else knows about that yet. Oh wait, no, thats a load of bull.

 

 

Care to change your opinion, now that I have posted multiple video's from tons of angles, which ALL prove that this guy is a big fat liar?

 

No "n" word, no physical attempts to attack... Shoot, if he had stopped for a second, the worst he would have gotten was some old grandma might have started to pray for him...

 

And we know that would be seen as a racist assault on democracy.


So those low quality clips filled with distorted crowd audio is your proof it didn't happen? Okay.


Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

And ANOTHER video that shows multiple angles of the mob that "attacked" this liar.


The media in this country is a joke, they only care about pushing their politics, instead of finding the truth.


You finally get it. You MUST by now realize fox is at least equally guilty. Besides, our news isn't news anyways most of the time. Just one of many comparison shots you can find to see where our priorities clearly are:
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 1:35pm

Since we have moved back to the media bias topic...

some interesting info has just come out.
 
MSNBC (you know that non biased news network) was just outed by their president... as a alternative to "fox" news...
 
rating sure to follow?...
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/columnists/ct-biz-0502-phil--20100502,0,7622870,full.column - http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/columnists/ct-biz-0502-phil--20100502,0,7622870,full.column
 
what is most interesting is that they say CNN is unbiased... that is a laugh.
 
And look at CNN and MSNBC and HLN's ratings... Not pretty compared to Fox.
 
Fox has 400 weeks at #1, in a row...
 
See, America knows that if you want liberal biased media coverage, you know like calling tea party  members racist...
 
All you have to do is flip on NBCCBSABCMSNBCCNN and you are innundated with bias.
 
Or you could watch Fox for coverage that at least covers both sides... (nuh un, fox is all biased free...) yeah, heraldo is a conservative, and those panels on just about every show always have liberal loons on every day with the reasonable people mixed in.
 
The others just eat their own viewers, so going "more" liberal won't help them in the ratings, time will prove this point.
 
"Fox News in April had nearly half of the prime-time cable news audience; MSNBC, one-fifth; while CNN only had 14 percent and CNN's more opinionated sister channel HLN had 13 percent. Among viewers between age 25 and 54, who advertisers prize, Fox claimed 43 percent of the cable news audience in prime time, followed by MSNBC (21 percent), HLN (15 percent) and CNN (13 percent"
 
Also, a new poll by ABC just came out... Not looking good for biased leftist news sources.
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/28/60minutes/main6440363_page9.shtml - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/28/60minutes/main6440363_page9.shtml
 
 
 
Now look at where you get your news. Did you know that there was a riot at one of the may day rallies?
 
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_14998618?source=most_viewed&nclick_check=1 - http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_14998618?source=most_viewed&nclick_check=1
 
According to MSM (main street media) this was glossed over, and was a "non" story. They were labeled "mostly peaceful"...
 
Fox covered it...
 
And yet if it had been a tea party rally... How do you think it would have been covered by the media?...
 
 
 
Kinda like the whole GM "repaying" their debt... With borrowed TARP money... But, I'm sure you already heard about that one, right? Even the NYT covered that doozie.
 
 


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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 5:32pm
Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

So those low quality clips filled with distorted crowd audio is your proof it didn't happen? Okay.


FE hasn't proven it didn't happen.


For one thing, it is very hard to prove a negative.  (This entire conversation is proof of that.  Every time FE posts media that doesn't show the assaults/insults the response is "it must have happened somewhere else"  or "the footage is too low quality to tell.")

Secondly, FE doesn't need to prove it didn't happen.  Here in the states we have a judicial approach based on being innocent until proven guilty.  (Something a good portion of our media seems to have forgotten.)  While this is not necessarily a legal matter, the precedent does have a tendency to be utilized in other arenas as well.  My point is allegations were made and those allegations have never been supported.  Until someone provides proof of the alleged assaults or defamation there is no reason to believe they happened beyond the need of some people to disparage those who don't agree with their every opinion and thought.  So, the proper response for FE when someone says the TEA Party behaved in a racist manner is to say "show me or shut up."


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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 03 May 2010 at 5:41pm
FE, I will admit I don't read much of these topics, but I don't think I ever recall anyone here arguing that MSNBC is not biased.  Therefore, I must ask, why do you keep arguing against beliefs that no one here has vocalized?  

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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 04 May 2010 at 8:52am
Originally posted by Eville Eville wrote:

FE, I will admit I don't read much of these topics, but I don't think I ever recall anyone here arguing that MSNBC is not biased.  Therefore, I must ask, why do you keep arguing against beliefs that no one here has vocalized?  
 
 
Because every day the media bombards the public with what they should think about just about everything...
 
And those thoughts are then spoken by  many on this site verbatim.
 
Example
 
"The tea party people are racists", which has been said many times in this thread alone.
 
I point out examples of the media manipulating stories to indoctrinate, instead of media reporting on the news.
 
here is a good example of actual reporting... But, it is rare, and I bet this one will be gone soon, as the President usually makes these types of stories go bye bye...
 
Which is horrible for America, we need a media that actually asks questions that don't have an agenda.
 
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gLiUWM39KjSOCwqEl9nZDVncfSlgD9FFSJ8O0 - http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gLiUWM39KjSOCwqEl9nZDVncfSlgD9FFSJ8O0
 
I better quote the entire article before it is gone...
 
"SPIN METER: There since Day One? Maybe not

By ERICA WERNER (AP) – 5 hours ago

WASHINGTON — To hear Obama administration officials tell it, they've been fully engaged on the Gulf Coast oil spill since Day One, bringing every resource to bear and able to ensure without question that taxpayers will be protected.

Not quite.

Take President Barack Obama's repeated claims that BP will be responsible for all the costs associated with the devastating spill that began after an oil rig operated by the company exploded April 20, killing 11 workers and later sinking.

"Let me be clear: BP is responsible for this leak; BP will be paying the bill," Obama said while touring the area Sunday.

While it's true that the federal Oil Pollution Act, enacted in 1990 in response to the Exxon Valdez spill in Alaska, makes BP responsible for cleanup costs, the law caps the company's liability for economic damages — such as lost wages, shortened fishing seasons or lagging tourism — at $75 million, a pittance compared to potential losses.

Administration officials insist BP will be held responsible anyway, noting that if the company is found negligent or criminally liable, the cap disappears. Claims also can potentially be made under other state or federal laws, officials said.

Yet the liability cap is problematic enough that a trio of Democratic senators introduced legislation Monday raising it to $10 billion, and the administration quickly announced its support. Sens. Robert Menendez and Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey and Bill Nelson of Florida voiced concerns that unless the cap is raised, BP would avoid paying for the mess and leave small businesses, local government and fishermen with the bill.

"They're not going to want to pay any more than what the law says they have to," Nelson said.

That's not quite the seemingly ironclad guarantee heard from the president.

Then there's the administration's rhetoric about anticipating the magnitude of the crisis and bringing all resources to bear on Day One.

"We had (Defense Department) resources there from Day One. This was a situation that was treated as a possible catastrophic failure from, from Day One," Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press."

That sense of urgency was not so apparent when White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs was questioned about the incident April 23, three days after it occurred. At the time he seemed to dismiss its severity and indicated it wouldn't affect Obama's plans to open up new areas of the coast to offshore drilling.

"I don't honestly think it opens up a whole new series of questions, because, you know, in all honesty I doubt this is the first accident that has happened and I doubt it will be the last," Gibbs said.

A week later, Obama was announcing plans for Interior Secretary Ken Salazar to review whether new technologies were needed to safeguard against oil spills from deep-water drilling rigs. The president said no new offshore oil drilling leases would be issued without any such safeguards.

And Napolitano's comments over the weekend about the Pentagon's Day One role seemed a change from last Thursday, when she seemed to indicate the Defense Department was not yet involved in responding to the spill: "If and when they have something to add, we'll certainly make that known," she said.

A Homeland Security spokesman, Sean Smith, said Napolitano's more recent comments referred to the Navy's help with the Coast Guard's search and rescue mission early on, and that when she was discussing the Defense Department last Thursday she was alluding to any additional help they could bring to bear.

The administration's evolving rhetoric reflects not only the increasing seriousness of the spill itself, but its determination to be seen as responsive from the get-go and to squelch comparisons to the Bush administration's slow-footed response to Hurricane Katrina.

It's only natural that administration officials would adjust their response as the spill worsened and its seriousness became evident. But they invite judgment when claiming they responded at 100 percent starting Day One to an incident whose magnitude was not yet apparent, or when black-and-white assertions about taxpayer protections turn out to be tinged with gray.

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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 04 May 2010 at 10:58am
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

I point out examples of the media manipulating stories to indoctrinate, instead of media reporting on the news.

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Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 04 May 2010 at 11:04am
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 8:07am

As a member of the tea party, I find it offensive to be labeled a racist, hatemonger, tim mcvay wanna be and more...

 
So I watch news that doesn't have that spin.
 
We saw a ton of that right after the failed nyc bombing attempt as many in the media were hoping this was a tea party member... But, as usual it was a muslim...
 
 
Why has janet incompetano not lost her job yet?
 
christmas bomber, muslim, we were "going" to question when he landed... Incompetence.
Hasan, mass murderer muslim extremist at Ft. Hood, everyone "knew" he was "off" but left in place to carry out his attack. Incompetence.
 
now the NYC bomber, turns out he was even on their "watch" as they had photographs of him, to show the guy from PA who id'd him. But, they didn't "watch" him very well, huh... more incompetence.
 
And then you have this from the left, trying to blame it on a member of the tea party. Sick.
 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2010/05/04/oops-leftwing-blogosphere-forced-embarrassing-backtrack-times-square-b - http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2010/05/04/oops-leftwing-blogosphere-forced-embarrassing-backtrack-times-square-b


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Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 9:27am
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

... But, as usual it was a muslim...

 
 
Wacko


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 9:48am
Originally posted by Tical3.0 Tical3.0 wrote:

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

... But, as usual it was a muslim...

 
 
Wacko
 
 
Well, this particular terrorist attack (number 3 since Obummer took over), was done after south park mocked muhhammmmaid, and the bomb was placed in front of their headquarters...
 
After a Fatah was called against them...
 
Unlike the msm I can add 2 + 2, and realize it wasn't a "tea party" member as they were hoping.
 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703866704575224451665380256.html - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703866704575224451665380256.html
 
"Igor Djuric, a broker who showed Mr. Shahzad the 1,356-square-foot home he eventually bought, said he remembered that Mr. Shahzad was quiet about himself, but was openly critical of President Bush in the aftermath of the Iraq war.

"I didn't take it for anything, since a lot of people didn't like Bush," Mr. Djuric said, "but he was a little bit strong about expressing it.""

"Other real-estate brokers and a lawyer who worked with Mr. Shahzad described him as soft-spoken, well-dressed and intelligent, but very reserved."
 
 
Clearly a liberal muslim...
 
 
You do realize that we are at war with radical islam, right?
 
Or was this just another "man caused disaster?"
 
political correctness is a major problem in the US, when we can't even label our enemy who we are actively fighting TWO WARS with right now...


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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 9:50am
There is a huge difference between "radical islam" and "muslims"

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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 10:00am
Oh really...
 
How do you tell the difference between a radical muslim and a regular muslim?...
 
Well at least it is clear that the justice department is cracking down on the terrorists they deem "dangerous"...
 
http://bigjournalism.com/acary/2010/05/04/in-the-wake-of-the-times-square-bomber-the-hutaree-militia-case-starts-to-unravel-on-first-amendment-grounds/ - http://bigjournalism.com/acary/2010/05/04/in-the-wake-of-the-times-square-bomber-the-hutaree-militia-case-starts-to-unravel-on-first-amendment-grounds/
 
while letting a guy like this bomber who attends terrorist training camps is allowed to just board a plane to leave.
 
incompetano should be fired.
 
 


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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 10:08am
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Oh really...
 
How do you tell the difference between a radical muslim and a regular muslim?... 

Clap


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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 11:42am
The radical muslim is into extreme sports.

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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 11:46am
Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

The radical muslim is into extreme sports.
 
 
 
Then this guy is a "radical" muslim...


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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 11:53am
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

 
 
Well, this particular terrorist attack (number 3 since Obummer took over), was done after south park mocked muhhammmmaid, and the bomb was placed in front of their headquarters...
 
After a Fatah was called against them...
 



I'm going to assume you meant "fatwa." Seeing as the Al-Fatah is an organization.Disapprove


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 11:54am
Whoops... my bad.
 
I don't speak terrorist.


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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 11:56am
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

Whoops... my bad.
 
I don't speak terrorist.


Or informed fear-mongerer either, I suppose. As you've used that term a couple of times this morning, when it's not even a verb.


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 12:06pm

yeah, I wish I were as wise as the news media... I was public educated.

 
 
Look at this article.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100505/ap_on_re_us/us_times_square_car_bomb - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100505/ap_on_re_us/us_times_square_car_bomb
 
The bomb was placed in front of viacom, the owners of south park...
 
and no mention of that fact?...
 
You have to go to europe to find an article that sees the obvious link...
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7668606/Times-Square-car-bomb-police-investigate-South-Park-link.html - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7668606/Times-Square-car-bomb-police-investigate-South-Park-link.html
 
 


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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 12:07pm
I thought he meant that someone called out my ex against them.

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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 12:13pm
lol
 
 
 
I thought she was big boned?


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 05 May 2010 at 12:14pm
don't.

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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 15 July 2010 at 9:38am
So, even though breitbart offered $100,000 for proof of this "alleged" racism. Only witnessed by one person, and everyone in the area was video taping... but all 16 times were magically not recorded... by 16 different people too...
 
 
The NAACP calls the entire Tea party racist.
 
And wants the "tea party" to apologize.
 
 
 
I guess they should call the tea party headquarters. Isn't it located on whitey street, with Mr. White in charge... Maybe all those greedy companies send money to the national tea party organization so they can feel better about something...
 
Oh wait, there is no national tea party organization. This is just a group of concerned citizens who want less taxes and a responsible government that doesn't steal from future generations with massive spending....
 
You know, "stop spending, Congress, and Mr. President"...
 
But, nooo, the NAACP calls each and every member of the tea party (which is an ideal... not an actual organization)
 
 
 
 
and the best part is... The NAACP didn't even get their lies right on the press release...
 
Here is a copy of the release.
http://adastrum.kansascity.com/?q=node/969 - http://adastrum.kansascity.com/?q=node/969
 
"Over 2,000 NAACP delegates today unanimously passed a resolution—as amended—called “The Tea Party Movement,” asking for the repudiation of racist Tea Party leaders.

The resolution condemns the bigoted elements within the Tea Party and asks for them to be repudiated. The NAACP delegates presented this resolution for debate and passage after a year of vitriolic Tea Party demonstrations during which participants used racial slurs and images. In March, members of the Congressional Black Caucus were accosted by Tea Party demonstrators and called racial epithets. Civil rights icon John Lewis was spit on, while Congressman Emanuel Cleaver was called the “N” word and openly gay Congressman Barney Frank was called an ugly anti-gay slur.

“We take no issue with the Tea Party movement. We believe in freedom of assembly and people raising their voices in a democracy. What we take issue with is the Tea Party’s continued tolerance for bigotry and bigoted statements. The time has come for them to accept the responsibility that comes with influence and make clear there is no place for racism & anti-Semitism, homophobia and other forms of bigotry in their movement,” stated NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous. “Last night after my speech, I was approached by an African American member of the NAACP and the Tea Party. He thanked me for speaking out because he has begun to feel uncomfortable in the Tea Party and wants to ensure there will always be space for him in both organizations. I assured him there will always be a place for him in the NAACP. Dick Armey and the leadership of the Tea Party need to do the same.”

The resolution was amended during the debate to specifically ask the Tea Party itself to repudiate the racist elements and activities of the Tea Party. "

 
 
so, in this thread I have pointed out the actual video (which all of us would probably agree, is more credible than the word of these individuals, since it directly contradics their statements presented by the media. and also contradicts the NAACP's press release...
 
John Lewis never said he was spat upon. in the video you can see an animated protestor shouting and the consequent "soccer player" reaction from Rep Emanuel Cleaver... A reaction born from a protestor "spraying it" instead of saying it... Which is totally different from hauking up a loogie and chucking it into the face of someone... And it is on video... presented previously in this thread. And Cleaver has now gone back on the "spitting" claim...
 
http://dailycaller.com/2010/04/02/dem-now-downplaying-tea-party-spitting-allegation/ - http://dailycaller.com/2010/04/02/dem-now-downplaying-tea-party-spitting-allegation/
 
 
And also, John Lewis never said he was called the "N" word. Cleaver is the one who said that... And Cleaver wasn't even there according to the video's. ONLY Lewis and Carson are on the video's...
 
In other words, Cleaver made up the whole thing...
 
 
 
But, why would this come out now?
 
This controversy has been hashed and rehashed months ago. But NOW NAACP comes out on the same week that Gibbs declares that the house is up for grabs... And they now need to whip their base into a frenzy so they get out to vote.
 
So the tea party is racist according to them.
 
And this week some other group was named as racist too...
 
 
Hmm, tie the tea party to terrorists... by calling them both racist in the same week.
 
 
clever.
 
 
 
 
 
and no mention of the real racists in the new black panther movement.
 
hypocritical.


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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 July 2010 at 9:57am
Nobody cares.

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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 15 July 2010 at 11:15am

Obviously Noel Sheppard is a lurker...

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/07/15/all-conservatives-are-racist-talk-designed-save-dems-november - http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/07/15/all-conservatives-are-racist-talk-designed-save-dems-november
 
 


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Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 15 July 2010 at 2:02pm
Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Nobody cares.


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 28 July 2010 at 2:23pm
file this one under "damage already done, move along, nothing to see here"...
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/18/us/politics/18bai.html?_r=1 - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/18/us/politics/18bai.html?_r=1
 
"Correction: July 25, 2010

The Political Times column last Sunday, about a generational divide over racial attitudes, erroneously linked one example of a racially charged statement to the Tea Party movement. While Tea Party supporters have been connected to a number of such statements, there is no evidence that epithets reportedly directed in March at Representative John Lewis, Democrat of Georgia, outside the Capitol, came from Tea Party members."

 

I counted no less than 4 instances where this same story was used against the tea party this past weekend on Sunday morning talk shows... Even when it is proven false, and the Times admits it...

The general public will never know, they will see that story as fact, since it was trumpeted so loudly for so long from the "unbiased" news media...
 
 
partisan media is a better term.


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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 28 July 2010 at 4:15pm
Originally posted by slackerr26 slackerr26 wrote:

Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Nobody cares.


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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 28 July 2010 at 4:25pm
Talk shows aren't news.

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