Now they have done it.
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Topic: Now they have done it.
Posted By: oldsoldier
Subject: Now they have done it.
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 5:25pm
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The IUslamic radicals have awakened the Russian Bear, and the Russians are not know for patience and a stand off attitude. Look at the way they handled the Chetznia(sp) problem. Spetnaz and regualr army troops just came in and did thier thing, ruthlessly and sending a message.
Putin is looking fore a reason to send his military back into Afghanistan and 'prove' that the 80's were justified and this time gloves are off. Russia will lash out if Mother Russia is attacked, and the populace will support any action after Mother Russia is attacked. NAtionalizm is a Russian trait, and thier Military needs to flex its muscle once again to be credible on the world stage. ------------- 
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 6:14pm
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Great. Another pretext for Russia to launch a bloody, catastrophic, and ultimately ineffective 'counterinsurgency' (if you can call massacring civilians that). ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 6:52pm
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The Russians haven't been any better than us, and perhaps have been worse, at crushing the Islamic insurgency that's actually spread further than when they began fighting it. I do not see a good ending here. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 6:58pm
Link? I haven't heard anything about this. EDIT: Found http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/world/europe/30moscow.html - this. But I also found out about a train derailment that was considered terrorism that happened last year. What makes you believe that this will cause more of a reaction? RE-EDIT: Just found out Chechen terrorists are Islamic, and Russian response to Chechen attacks has been horrific; the more you know... ------------- 
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oldsoldier wrote:Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 7:00pm
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Russia flexing its muscles never ends well. ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 29 March 2010 at 7:01pm
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 10:05am
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BY all accounts Putin has put the Military as well as Law Enforcement into erradicate mode. And yes the innocent will suffer as with the guilty in a typical Russian 'Purge' of the Islamic Terror Threat within Mother Russia. Russian Nationalism is in full swing, the media is in full support mode, and the traditional Russian patriotic music is again blaring on the streets. Any try to 'hold back' the Russian intelligence services (the old KGB types) or the Russian Military by diplomacy will fall on deaf ears, there will be a typical Russian approach to an attack on 'Mother Russia'.
This is not going to go well for the Islamic peoples of Russia, and wherever the Russian Military decides the threat is greatest. Afghanistan is my bet, as we would call it 'unfinished bussiness'. -------------
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 12:39pm
Eerily similar to some other country, ya? And I don't think Russia will go to Afghanistan to flex their muscle while the US and UN have troops there. I imagine they would be greatly limited on what they could do versus what they wanted to do if there are Europeans/American in the way. -------------
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 12:46pm
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Afghanistan is a direct threat across a comman border, not thousands of miles away. And a direct highway to Pakistan, where the hides are. The Russians are not known for respecting other militarys that are co-operating. Look at Germany from 1944-1989. The Russian Military is ramping up, and Putin wants to again be a big player on the world stage, a few US and UN troops will not stop the Russians in persuing enemies of 'Mother Russia' we can co-operate or get out of the way, the only options Putin will put forth. -------------
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 12:49pm
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I'm pretty sure the likelihood of the Russians going into Afghanistan right now is minimal. That said, I see a high chance of lots of dead Chechans in the coming months. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 12:58pm
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The thing that worries me about seeing Igor tearing through the Middle East, is that the Ruskies will undo all that we have done in the last years.
If the Russians begin slaying Islam, all that will happen is you will have AlQuaida (sp) recruiting by the thousands... ------------- 
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 1:10pm
My brother just posted this on another forum we frequent, thought some might be interested in it:
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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 1:18pm
| Since when has Afghanistan been the worlds hub of Islam? They should nuke Mecca. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 1:21pm
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You know, this doesn't happen very often, so mark it on your calendars. I'm going to say it. Pariell is right. The Russians becoming involved militarily in Afghanistan is about as likely as us getting involved militarily in Vietnam right now. For starters, they learned their lesson down there over a period of a decade or so the hard way. They ultimately ran into the same problems that we've been running into which is that fighting in Afghanistan is a protracted siege on natural fortifications (mountains) which costs a hell of a lot of men and material to win. Secondly, the bombings didn't come from the AQ/Taliban. They were initiated by the Chechen separatists. How do we know this when it hasn't been confirmed in the media? Well, it was two women suicide bombers (a Chechen calling card) attacking the Lubyanka and Palace of Culture stations (the FSB [formerly KGB] is stationed in/around Lubyanka) through the rail transit system (again a Chechen calling card). What this is ultimately going to mean is that the FSB and Spetsnaz are going to be a bit busier than usual. If anything, I would expect Russia to be particularly scrutinizing of Georgia as it's about the only place the Chechen rebels have to run. If anything, I think you'll see a few strategic missile strikes by the Russians at suspected Chechen holdouts, and possibly a raid or two if they find any high-priority targets of intelligence. Your resident Russophile, Tallen702 /thread ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 1:21pm
I agree. If they're gonna swing the hammer, they better make sure all of Al Qaida is under it or it'll be like swatting at a bee hive. ------------- oreomann33: Everybody invades Poland Rofl_Mao: And everyone eats turkey Me: But only if they're hungary Mack: Yeah but hungary people go russian through their food and end up with greece on everyth |
Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 30 March 2010 at 2:28pm
I'ma need everyone to make big signs and celebrate this event with cake for at least the next coupla years. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |