But yeah, on the one hand the great majority of folks I know in school haven't quite achieved the head-ass fit OS is describing, but on the other hand I'm sure we all know at least a few...

It's just like the gun control debate. Someone always winds up telling my that I simply don't need a semi-auto version of an AK or M-16, and that in some way aids their argument against me owning it. But apply that to logic to, say, a motorcycle, which I also don't need and is dangerous (though, of course, we get back to degrees but that's insignificant to the logic I'm attacking), suddenly it sounds crazy.

 

For most of us it's much easier to see the logic in something that doesn't affect us than something that is a part of our daily lives. It's like the short-lived movement among some politicians to try and tighten up controls on the video game industry. I'd be willing to bet that those who fought so hard against GTA had probably never even picked up a gaming controller, yet they've attached a definite value, legality, and label to something they know only through flawed statistics.

 

That said, I'm all for taxing cigarettes, or alcohol, or video games, or cars, or whatever. Money's gotta come from somewhere, the country wants things and things aren't cheap.

 

 

Not that tobacco should/shouldnt be taxed more/less or how bad/good tobacco/caffiene is. I find it amusing how OS turned the situation into the students perspective and all of a sudden it is blasphemy.

 

Since going to college, Ive learned that there a good number of whiney opinionated know-it-all types around, who are often quite ignorant.

Most opinionated types (use your best friend FE as an example) usually have some real world expierence to back up their pompous "im right" attitude, where as the only taste of the real world most college students have is highschool, MTV, and working at McDonalds.

 

Sure there are some nuts on the tree, but some are good nuts. I like fresh pecans for example.

 

 

My sister was a part time film professor at USC (now she homeschools her 4 kids), her huge amount of experience would impress any film student, plus she knows how to get work in the field, which is the key to success in film. I had many professors, who were OK, but not great. They could teach you book knowledge, but the teachers that have actual experience in the field you are studying are the key.

 

Now that I am older, I would be much more picky about the professors I selected... Too bad I already have my degree, but for your younger folks, make sure your professor has experience in the field they are teaching, if they don't transfer to a different class, the real world knowledge is key.

 

 

I think college is key to teaching critical thinking skills. Not that high school couldn't... But, I don't know many that do, most teach to the test, while giving you the proper answer in multiple choice forms... That isn't learning but regurgitating temporary memory, which typically fades with the test results.

 

Being able to think about things, and look at multiple issues and how the results come from these issues and create solutions is the key to a good education.

 

As a country, we are already taxed too much. The sooner you realize that government and education ALWAYS want more of your money. The better off you will be to stand against their assault on your checkbook.

 

 

Because they will sell it as "for the children, or elderly" when in fact they just want even MORE of your money so they can waste it...

 

And that is why I am a member of the TEA party. But, they don't teach that in school... hmm because they need your money... See the conflict of interests?

 

 

http://kathleenmckinley.com/2010/04/05/school-propaganda-in-texas.aspx?results=1#SurveyResultsChart - http://kathleenmckinley.com/2010/04/05/school-propaganda-in-texas.aspx?results=1#SurveyResultsChart

 

Edit: FE, we get it, you hate Obama. Dont drag it into this thread too.

 

I think college is key to teaching critical thinking skills. Not that high school couldn't... But, I don't know many that do, most teach to the test, while giving you the proper answer in multiple choice forms... That isn't learning but regurgitating temporary memory, which typically fades with the test results.   Being able to think about things, and look at multiple issues and how the results come from these issues and create solutions is the key to a good education.

Again, absolutely.  For most people, it's not about the skills you learn in college (although being in science, engineering, medicine, and I'm sure other areas it is somewhat about them).

 

As a country, we are already taxed too much. The sooner you realize that government and education ALWAYS want more of your money. The better off you will be to stand against their assault on your checkbook.   Because they will sell it as "for the children, or elderly" when in fact they just want even MORE of your money so they can waste it...   And that is why I am a member of the TEA party. But, they don't teach that in school... hmm because they need your money... See the conflict of interests?

I don't think it's that black and white.  The reality is that the money you pay out does have some effect.  To me, the question of taxes is not one of paying a lot or a little, but on deciding what services we need and how to maximize the value for our money.

I think our bureaucratic system needs some major reworking before that is possible though, and I don't see that happening in the near future.


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I'm not trying to say either one is right or wrong, honestly, I feel both sides often take it too far. I'm just explaining the rhetoric behind the images. It's not calling liberals angels and conservatives devils, it's an exaggerated idea related more toward their general view of people. Now, can the poster be misinterpreted? Yes, of course, all documents/images can be. But I seriously doubt that was the intention of the creators.