Got my plate taken down by a bus driver.
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Topic: Got my plate taken down by a bus driver.
Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Subject: Got my plate taken down by a bus driver.
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 5:00pm
Heres the scenario:
Im behind a bus right at about the corner of him, going 35 in a 40 cause i just pulled out of my apartment parking lot. His lights start flashing but im doing around 10mph faster then him and i was already at the corner of his bus so i kept going.
As im halfway past him the stop sign starts to come out, but i was past him by the time it was all the way out.
He then took down my plate number, told me he did so and said pointed menacingly at me. I didnt roll the window down cause i didnt feel like dealing with him (and it was raining).
Was he just trying to try to scare me taking my plate? If i stopped, i would have ended up right next to his driver window. Didnt make sense.
I guess well see if i get a ticket mailed to my house for running a stop sign. If that happens im fighting it, bus drivers are dumb. Carry on.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 5:08pm
Passing a stopped school bus is more than running a stop sign brosef. At least here, it's like 5 or 6 points on your lcense of the allotted 8.
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Posted By: M13-7
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 5:08pm
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If you do get a ticket, it'll be a bit more serious than 'running a stop sign' I think passing a school bus is a much more serious infraction.
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 5:13pm
Hmm, im gonna chalk this one up to "cross my fingers and hope the cops show up so i can tell them what really happened or ask for video of it" before i really worry.
Also the bus wasnt stopped when the sign started coming out.
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Operation Safe Stop wrote:
The first-time fine for illegally passing a school bus is a $250 to $400 fine, 5 points on your license, and/or possibly 30 days in jail. |
Lol 5 points and 30 days in jail? Sucks for whoever actually passes a school bus illegally. I dont see anything about passing when flashing yellow lights are on. Just the flashing red ones, which were NOT on.
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Posted By: M13-7
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 5:16pm
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Oh, I'm not questioning you, something similar happened to me a few years back, but I was going the other way. Red lights came on just about the same time that my front end lined up with the bus's. Got pulled over for it by the cop sitting at an intersection. All he saw was the red lights and me still coming, explained myself to him, and got off.
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 5:26pm
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the flashing yellow lights on a bus are the same as yellow light. Stop if you can, not gun it to pass them before they turn red.
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 5:33pm
Ok good to know, cause i didnt speed up to pass him, i kept doing 35 cause there was a light up ahead. Its not like i blew by him at 55 in a 40, i was doing less then the speed limit haha.
Im still betting on the cops not showing up for this one.
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 8:49pm
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Ive always found that bus drivers are cranky people who whish they had authority.
Best situation of this was on the way home from project graduation in highschool. Bus driver was being cranky and one of my friends said, "What? are you going to turn the bus around?"
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Posted By: M13-7
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 8:59pm
SSOK wrote:
Ive always found that bus drivers are cranky people who whish they had authority.
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Problem is, bus drivers have TONS of responsibility....and no authority. Ever wonder why they're cranky? Try driving a 56 passenger bus through traffic that's jammed with rambunctious school kids- and having your back to them the entire time. It's not exactly the easiest job in the world- in my opinion, they've got every right to be just a bit cranky.
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 9:32pm
If he took down your plate, that means that there wasn't a forward looking camera. This means that there's no evidence and it's his word against yours, which means that you won't get a ticket.
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Posted By: Boss_DJ
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 9:35pm
hes a bus driver...nothings gonna happen...if anything just say you have no idea what hes talking about
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 9:48pm
I hated taking the bus in middle school. Bus drivers suck. I was a very well behaved middle schooler. Luckily I could walk to high school.
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Posted By: M13-7
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 10:15pm
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Lotsa disdain for the working man in here isn't there?
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 10:26pm
Lots of disdain for power tripping pricks.
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Posted By: M13-7
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 10:42pm
Eville wrote:
Lots of disdain for power tripping pricks. |
Don't know how necessary this is.
It certainly isn't clever or funny.
Are you actually going to lump all school bus drivers into a negative group because one may have misjudged distance and thought that the original poster had made an illegal maneuver?
Spend one day in the drivers seat of a school bus. I can almost guarantee that the pressures involved in the transportation of children while remaining firmly within the confines of the state and federal regulations that govern you would soften your attitude a smidgen.
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 10:53pm
My father drove a school bus for 18 years while he was putting himself through college, my mother drive for a while, and I've worked with no less than half a dozen other people who spent time driving a bus.
My father once told me that driving a school bus was harder in terms of discipline and order than a classroom is. 50 odd kids at your back vs. 20 or 30 in front of you without traffic distractions.
Hardly any of the people I know who drove bus were 'power tripping pricks' - what the hell kind of power is there to glean from driving a school bus? I think Eville is just going out of his way to be negative again.
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 11:12pm
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I never said all bus drivers are, but the ones that are, I have disdain for.
Just ask Scotchy about bus drivers.
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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 11:14pm
His lights are flashing..you are an idiot, hope you get the most expensive ticket they can give you.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 11:51pm
tallen702 wrote:
If he took down your plate, that means that there wasn't a forward looking camera. This means that there's no evidence and it's his word against yours, which means that you won't get a ticket. |
This.
No proof = no ticket.
Even at the odd chance they try, you'd have it thrown out like it was nothing.
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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 11:55pm
If you are already at the corner, then the lights flashing are immaterial, you shouldn't be able to see them, or realistically be able to respond to them. Especially at 10+ you'll be past them before they register.
I don't get your picture though. Where is the side of the road?
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 3:34am
Boss_DJ wrote:
hes a bus driver...nothings gonna happen...if anything just say you have no idea what hes talking about | Thats what i thought.
Boss_DJ wrote:
hes a bus driver...nothings gonna happen...if anything just say you have no idea what hes talking about | This was the plan because honestly, i dont know why he took my plate # down. I dont think i did anything wrong.
JohnnyCanuck wrote:
His lights are flashing..you are an idiot, hope you get the most expensive ticket they can give you.
| Uhh, yellow lights on a bus mean be prepared to stop and are equal to a yellow traffic light is all that ive read. Running a yellow light is legal if you dont speed up to do so. Thanks for being helpful.
Kayback wrote:
If you are already at the corner, then the lights flashing are immaterial, you shouldn't be able to see them, or realistically be able to respond to them. Especially at 10+ you'll be past them before they register.
I don't get your picture though. Where is the side of the road? | You dont get the picture? Dude come on, image it. Theres a 2 lane rd with the yellow lines and the dotted white lines shown. Where do you THINK the curb is?
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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 6:30am
Well it would have to be on the right hand side of the bus. Then whats the problem with passing on the left? It isn't like you are cutting inside the bus.
I still don't get it.
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Posted By: M13-7
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 6:52am
Kayback wrote:
Well it would have to be on the right hand side of the bus. Then whats the problem with passing on the left? It isn't like you are cutting inside the bus.
I still don't get it.
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Oh, that doesn't matter. Flashing lights on a bus stops traffic in all directions. No passing outside, no passing in the opposite direction....no movement past that bus whatsoever as long as those red lights are flashing.
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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 7:10am
Ah I didn't know that.
16khp = 4m/s.
Average length of a school bus = 12m.
Average reaction time = 1 second.
In the remaining 2 seconds you'd have been past the bus before you'd come to a stop anyway, especially so if the bus was stopping and you didn't. That would reduce the passing time.
I'd say don't sweat it. But then I'm not up to date with US traffic laws.
KBK
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 10:11am
Technically they're not supposed to open the sign until the bus has come to a stop, however I've never seen a bus driver wait, so it is possible that the red lights were in fact flashing before you got to the front of the bus.
M13-7 wrote:
Lotsa disdain for the working man in here isn't there?
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Could have been due to the fact that most of our bus drivers smoked and did drugs on the buses, sometimes while kids were on them. If that's the quality of people that the best school district in the state gets to drive it's buses, I shudder to think what the kids in Newark and Camden are getting.
I have almost no respect for the bus drivers I had in school, because they didn't earn it.
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Posted By: M13-7
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 12:19pm
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Interesting. With the exception of a handful of notable exceptions (most of whom didn't last long at the job) the bus drivers I had as a kid were pretty respectable.
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 1:35pm
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I had a pretty mixed bag of bus drivers. One was a total boob who could be talked into aggressive back-road driving in the snow, which was awesome until you ended up in a ditch. The driver for the baseball team could apparently could keep his cool under pressure, their bus was hit by bullets on two different occasions.
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 1:38pm
M13-7 wrote:
Interesting. With the exception of a handful of notable exceptions (most of whom didn't last long at the job) the bus drivers I had as a kid were pretty respectable. |
The inverse was true where I grew up, the handful of notable exceptions were good, calm, and ultimately respected. The majority were crotchety old bastards and ho's who had no business being in charge of the safety of kids.
The only good bus driver I ever had was a guy named Willie who was also a reverend at a local gospel church. Calm, collected, respected by everyone on the bus.
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 3:46pm
M13-7 wrote:
Interesting. With the exception of a handful of notable exceptions (most of whom didn't last long at the job) the bus drivers I had as a kid were pretty respectable. |
same.....for the most part.
There was one driver I remember who, when a friend of mine got sick and looked like he was gonna puke, pulled over, let the kid out.....and drove away.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 4:49pm
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My bus driver FLIPPED the bus onto its side, stupid loser was always flying around the curve next to my house, and we kept telling him one day he would flip the bus.
Sure enough, he flew around the corner and hit the curb and tipped it right onto its side.
I didn't ride that day for some reason...
But, I knew everyone aboard.
He was fired a few days later.
I wouldn't worry about it, a cop can't do anything unless he witnesses it firsthand.
All you have to say is "show me the proof". This bus driver was exhibiting obvious road rage, and yelling at me, while swerving at me and gesturing madly...
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 5:04pm
While it's his word vs yours, claim you saw a bottle in his hand
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 6:16pm
choopie911 wrote:
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This.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 7:13pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
My bus driver FLIPPED the bus onto its side, stupid loser was always flying around the curve next to my house, and we kept telling him one day he would flip the bus.
Sure enough, he flew around the corner and hit the curb and tipped it right onto its side.
I didn't ride that day for some reason...
But, I knew everyone aboard.
He was fired a few days later.
I wouldn't worry about it, a cop can't do anything unless he witnesses it firsthand.
All you have to say is "show me the proof". This bus driver was exhibiting obvious road rage, and yelling at me, while swerving at me and gesturing madly...
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Did you see the bus glowing?
I kid I kid.
Around here, when my mom was younger, it was High School students who drove the buses
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 19 May 2010 at 9:13pm
usafpilot07 wrote:
Did you see the bus glowing?
I kid I kid.
Around here, when my mom was younger, it was High School students who drove the buses
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And the Magic School Bus reference wins the thread!
That last part is rather scary. Let me rephrase that, absolutely frightening.
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