All I wanted was to watch a movie. :\
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Topic: All I wanted was to watch a movie. :\
Posted By: __sneaky__
Subject: All I wanted was to watch a movie. :\
Date Posted: 01 July 2010 at 11:10pm
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And instead, I found this.
http://www.movies-links.tv/index.html - http://www.movies-links.tv/index.html
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 12:01am
Yup, I was wondering when they would start going after those sites.
Always made me wonder about the legality of watching streaming movies though... I mean we technically aren't downloading it.
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 12:02am
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Trying to find a new site, but so far they aren't as good. :(
Damn you government! Damn you!
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 12:29am
__sneaky__ wrote:
Trying to find a new site, but so far they aren't as good. :(Damn you government! Damn you! |
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 2:29am
What does ICE have to do with this?
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 2:35am
The Guy wrote:
What does ICE have to do with this? |
Curious myself.
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 2:49am
stratoaxe wrote:
The Guy wrote:
What does ICE have to do with this? |
Curious myself. |
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 2:58am
Well it's obviously the direct result of illegal immigration, duh.
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 3:01am
__sneaky__ wrote:
Well it's obviously the direct result of illegal immigration, duh. |
THEY TOOK OUR JOBS MOVIES.
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 3:17am
The Guy wrote:
What does ICE have to do with this? |
Immigration and Customs Enforcement? Well, as they are customs agents, they are within their authority to prevent the importation of illegal goods meaning that if the site is streaming from outside the US, then they get jurisdiction.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 8:44am
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Athiests = moral...
stealing is moral, AMIRITE!
it's just a movie... No one spent millions making it, TO SELL THE RIGHT TO WATCH IT...
relative morality, you gotta love it. Especially when netflicks is only $9.99 a month.
Why don't you steal cars too? or candy, you just wanted some candy and candy is good... you should steal that too.
sorry, as someone with a degree in film production, and who works with artists all day long, and has many friends who are movie makers. I get tired of the way so many steal digital content, like it doesn't matter to the people that put their blood, sweat and tears as well as possibly mortgaged their home to finance it, only to have people steal it and pretend like there is nothing wrong stealing... As "they just wanted to watch a movie"...
Also, I recently read that they are building a case against all the people who used sites like this to watch copyrighted materials for future prosecution...
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 10:45am
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How in the world did you loop stealing movies in with atheism?
Glenn wrote:
Also, I recently read that they are building a case against all the people who used sites like this to watch copyrighted materials for future prosecution... |
While I tend to agree with you about stealing movies, not that I've not done it from time to time, that case will be laughed at and tossed aside if it ever actually comes to fruition.
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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 10:52am
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I will admit I don't download movies, nor do I stream them, but I do have one or two video files that others have given me. Honestly? By me having them the people involved lost NO money. If I am interested enough I will go buy the DVD or get it on Blu Ray. I will also watch it on the big screen. A couple of times I've had the file and enjoyed it enough (suprisingly) that I've good and bought the disk. Some of the stuff I've watched has been specifically because I got it for free. I would never have watched it if if I'd had to pay for it but I enjoyed it enough to buy it. Movies that I've had have been because they were only worth watching for free.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 10:56am
agentwhale007 wrote:
How in the world did you loop stealing movies in with atheism?
Glenn wrote:
Also, I recently read that they are building a case against all the people who used sites like this to watch copyrighted materials for future prosecution... |
While I tend to agree with you about stealing movies, not that I've not done it from time to time, that case will be laughed at and tossed aside if it ever actually comes to fruition.
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sneaky has said many times he is an athiest...
and http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20008432-261.html - http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20008432-261.html
I can't find the one I read about gathering the users for future prosecution... similar to the illegal music download cases from a few years ago.
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 10:59am
Christians do not ever break their moral code of conduct.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 11:01am
more trolling...
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 11:02am
Let he who is without guilt, cast the first stone.
I am not trolling.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 11:13am
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So, Glenn, by stating that "Athiests = moral" in response to movie theft, are you stating that:
- Atheists are more likely to watch a pirated movie?
- Christians are less likely to watch a pirated movie?
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 11:25am
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No, I was stating that Atheists claim that they are moral. Many Christians also claim to be moral.
But, when many people find a wallet on the ground... they keep it.
Or find a movie downloadable instead of paying, they watch it, and steal it.
We all get to choose how we will live...
I don't want to generalize that all of any group do "____". But, it is pretty typical that many of our youth are atheists now... And they also steal copyrighted material.
I know... I know...
correlation doesn't equal causation...
but really... morality needs a standard. What is the atheists "standard"?
it sure seems like, "if you don't get caught and it doesn't "hurt" anyone it is OK"... is what I have always heard when this comes up from my athiest friends...
Which is moral relativism.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 11:28am
FreeEnterprise wrote:
What is the atheists "standard"?
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I would suppose it works on an individual basis, as it does with Christians too.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 11:35am
I can't believe this turned into an atheist vs. christian morality debate.
FE = most successful troll evah!
Oh yeah, I still maintain this is stealing. Just because someone wants something but considers it too expensive does not make it okay to take it without paying for it.
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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 11:58am
FreeEnterprise wrote:
but really... morality needs a standard. What is the atheists "standard"?
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Short answer is the standard is the law. Which some people feel free to disregard, just like some "moral Christians" ignore their standard
Honestly, it is more of a free economy thing. Your movie is worth what I am willing to pay for it. That amount for some movies is zero. Movies like 100 million BC, Tunnel Rats, The Hurt Locker or Lesbian Werewolves aren't worth buying.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 12:02pm
Kayback wrote:
FreeEnterprise wrote:
but really... morality needs a standard. What is the atheists "standard"?
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Short answer is the standard is the law. Which some people feel free to disregard, just like some "moral Christians" ignore their standard
Honestly, it is more of a free economy thing. Your movie is worth what I am willing to pay for it.
Kind of true. The movie is worth the equilibrium price that a sufficient majority of viewers are willing to pay for it. In most case this may be less than the makers desire, but it is not very often free. Furthermore, given the existing laws, the makers/legal distributors have the right to set the price and if it is still too high, potential viewers have the right to avoid paying that price by not watching it.
That amount for some movies is zero. Movies like 100 million BC, Tunnel Rats, The Hurt Locker or Lesbian Werewolves aren't worth buying.
Then they will suffer financially and end up in the bargain bin where someone can decide if the price is now low enough. They should not be "stolen" by being viewed illegally.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 12:06pm
lesbian Werewolves??? Not worth watching???
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 12:09pm
^^^ I hear the fur really flys in that one.
On a serious note, I was thinking the same thing about 100 Million BC. (Of course, my wife thinks I have poor taste in movies.)
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 12:12pm
Mack wrote:
^^^ I hear the fur really flys in that one.
On a serious note, I was thinking the same thing about 100 Million BC. (Of course, my wife thinks I have poor taste in movies.)
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But what if they have Brazilian style? 
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 12:35pm

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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 12:45pm
Lesbian Werewolves was so not worth the money. I was shocked too but there you have it.
I agree with the drop off in price, to a point. Generally by the time they are in bargain bins, the artist isn't getting any of that money. That's the stockist taking the hit.
Like I said though I'm the last person to argue the merits of piracy, less than 1% of the digital media in my house is pirate. I would prefer to go buy the disk.
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 1:32pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
Athiests = moral...
stealing is moral, AMIRITE! | Seriously? You're going to turn this into a religious debate?
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 2:31pm
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Sweet. A religious/political debate thread.
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 2:42pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
more trolling... | Look at his knee! It's made of solid iron!
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 3:01pm
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I still don't get how you didn't like Hurt Locker.
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 5:41pm
http://www.watch-movies-tv.info/ - http://www.watch-movies-tv.info/ http://www.watch-movies.net.in - http://www.watch-movies.net.in
I assume, FE, the you are also against borrowing/loaning movies from/to friends?
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 02 July 2010 at 7:51pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
Athiests = moral...
stealing is moral, AMIRITE!
it's just a movie... No one spent millions making it, TO SELL THE RIGHT TO WATCH IT... |
So only athiests pirate movies.... more rock solid "logic" from FE the amazing. Also FE, you simply cannot compare streaming a movie online to stealing a car or even candy.
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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 03 July 2010 at 12:52am
agentwhale007 wrote:
I still don't get how you didn't like Hurt Locker. |
I do like it. i just think it is over rated. Like I've said before it is a brilliant student movie. It isn't in the league of an Oscar winner.
Incidently, it is one of the pirate movies I did own, and I thought I paid too much for it. It cost me about $2. It happened to be a damn good quality rip, so it isn't because it was poor quality.
I won't bother going into the technical issues, both in cinematography and EOD, because I'm not qualified, and some things like the shopping center scene kick butt, but it is a "Meh" movie overall.
KBK
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 03 July 2010 at 1:09am
Kayback wrote:
agentwhale007 wrote:
I still don't get how you didn't like Hurt Locker.
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I do like it. i just think it is over rated. Like I've said before it is a brilliant student movie. It isn't in the league of an Oscar winner.
Incidently, it is one of the pirate movies I did own, and I thought I paid too much for it. It cost me about $2. It happened to be a damn good quality rip, so it isn't because it was poor quality.
I won't bother going into the technical issues, both in cinematography and EOD, because I'm not qualified, and some things like the shopping center scene kick butt, but it is a "Meh" movie overall.
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The biggest issue I had with the Hurt Locker was that you never really gave a crap about the characters involved. The whole reckless soldier endangers others while revealing a PTSD issue has been done since war movies got started. I think as a character study it's fairly predicitable, and as a war movie it's just kind of bland. That's my revised opinion after watching it a second time
On topic, I have mixed feelings about the morality of streaming movies. The thing is, I'm a movie buff, so I've never seen a streamed movie that appealed to me. For me to get into a movie, I need my HD set with at least a good quality DVD, Blu Ray preferred. So I only watch streamed movies if I just don't give a crap (2012, etc). I'm not saying it's morally right, but I think that the vast majority of people that stream a movie will probably go to see it if they like it.
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 03 July 2010 at 1:19am
FreeEnterprise wrote:
but really... morality needs a standard. What is the atheists "standard"?
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I'm really surprised with all of your college experience that you haven't explored philosophy in more depth to have answered that question.
Of course, moral standards are, despite the best philosophical attempts to counter this, all relative. While philosophy may answer what the "standard" is, I doubt there's a real Christian standard, Islamic standard, atheist standard, so on and so forth.
And aside from that, the term atheist doesn''t represent a belief like the term Christianity does. It simply denotes the lack of belief in God. So that's like asking "What is the diabetic moral standard?" The question really doesn't make any sense.
I've never understood the attempt to connect athiesm with morality.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 03 July 2010 at 1:29am
Mack wrote:
I can't believe this turned into an atheist vs. christian morality debate.
FE = most successful troll evah!
Oh yeah, I still maintain this is stealing. Just because someone wants something but considers it too expensive does not make it okay to take it without paying for it.
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I'd have a much harder time going through with piracy if the RIAA and MPAA weren't ripping us all off. They got very, very greedy so people stole their intellectual property. It all went downhill from there as their attempts to recover lost profits resulted in more piracy. It's cyclic.
Even with the widespread piracy on the net I'm fairly sure they're still making ridiculous money. Also, if you really want to support artists go to their shows, album sales don't compare as the record company keeps most of the money. Independent artists FTW.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 03 July 2010 at 1:46am
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Oh no doubt, I don't think it should have won Best Oscar.
That should have gone to Precious.
But seriously, don't watch that movie if you've had a bad day or are already feeling down. It's a bad idea. Trust me.
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Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 03 July 2010 at 1:55am
A Christian minister loaned me a pirated version of "the pasion of the christ.".
I didn't care for it.
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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 03 July 2010 at 1:55am
http://www.watch-movies.net.in/ - http://www.watch-movies.net.in/
ummm is this the site you are looking for? no problems here boss.
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Posted By: Corbenick
Date Posted: 03 July 2010 at 5:42am
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Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 03 July 2010 at 6:04am
FreeEnterprise wrote:
sorry, as someone with a degree in film production, and who works with artists all day long, and has many friends who are movie makers. I get tired of the way so many steal digital content, like it doesn't matter to the people that put their blood, sweat and tears as well as possibly mortgaged their home to finance it, only to have people steal it and pretend like there is nothing wrong stealing... As "they just wanted to watch a movie".
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you have a degree in film production, good for you for completing school. but going into film production (with this day in age) how could you not possibly know that people watch movies online? Oh wait... you did, so there's nothing to be mad about. I'm sure you watched films online before you had a new appreciation for the time and effort it takes for creating a film. And people are always, ALWAYS going to "just watch a movie". That's why you spent some many years in school to entertain us. Instead of worrying so much about people watching films off the interwebz, shouldn't you be glad that people are actually watching your production? And if you are still stingy about the money issue for living expenses and that, don't worry about because people will still buy DVDs. If they don't buy your DVD, then it's obvious that your movie sucked and you'd be wishing that people would actually watch it online.
I have many friends that direct films and guess what... they download illegally.
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 03 July 2010 at 11:33am
The market has decided.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 04 July 2010 at 11:10am
sporx wrote:
FreeEnterprise wrote:
sorry, as someone with a degree in film production, and who works with artists all day long, and has many friends who are movie makers. I get tired of the way so many steal digital content, like it doesn't matter to the people that put their blood, sweat and tears as well as possibly mortgaged their home to finance it, only to have people steal it and pretend like there is nothing wrong stealing... As "they just wanted to watch a movie".
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you have a degree in film production, good for you for completing school. but going into film production (with this day in age) how could you not possibly know that people watch movies online? Oh wait... you did, so there's nothing to be mad about. I'm sure you watched films online before you had a new appreciation for the time and effort it takes for creating a film. And people are always, ALWAYS going to "just watch a movie". That's why you spent some many years in school to entertain us. Instead of worrying so much about people watching films off the interwebz, shouldn't you be glad that people are actually watching your production? And if you are still stingy about the money issue for living expenses and that, don't worry about because people will still buy DVDs. If they don't buy your DVD, then it's obvious that your movie sucked and you'd be wishing that people would actually watch it online.
I have many friends that direct films and guess what... they download illegally. |
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