The gulf will never recover.... Oh wait...
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Topic: The gulf will never recover.... Oh wait...
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Subject: The gulf will never recover.... Oh wait...
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 12:15pm
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better hurry up and pass cap and tax... Cause the damage in the gulf is no where near as bad as the catastrophe we were sold by the leftist media.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2007202-1,00.html - http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2007202-1,00.html
guess it is time to book a trip to the gulf...
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 12:25pm
1) Not as bad as once thought =/= Everything is awesome!
2) So from your statement I can conclude that Time Magazine is not part of the "leftist media," seeing as they ran the report you are linking to?
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 12:37pm
* catastrophe
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 12:53pm
Duh. Did you really think the left would intentionally blow up an oil rig and intentionally cause an ecological disaster in order to get rid of oil use when they have the media under their thumb to make it seem way worse than it actually is? WAKE UP
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 12:55pm
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Actually this article isn't from the currently known members of JournOlist... But, maybe this reporter IS a member?...
I now consider that with every story I read...
Here are the known TIME JournOlist members
which I have already posted.
Joe Klein - TIME
Michael Scherer - TIME
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 12:58pm
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Answer the question: Is TIME part of the "Leftist media," seeing as they posted this piece?
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 1:05pm
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Should I put my hand on the Bible sitting next to me first?...
Come on Whale, you rarely ever answer any of my questions, and yet often bust out with an "ANSWER THE QUESTION"...
Tell you what. "YOU WANT THE TRUTH>>>"
(I don't think you can handle the truth).
but, anyway. Media organizations typically aren't as a whole corrupt. Many editors, and writers let their bias into their work, and clearly 400 members of JournOlist couldn't see the obvious problem with colluding about how to best promote their liberal ideals.
Time has many hugely liberal slanted stories... Can they report objectively at times... yes.
Do they usually... No.
The old phrase, "even a blind squirl finds a nut..." comes to mind.
So the truth is, Time typically is a leftist news source, sometimes they have journalistic integrity, other times... not so much.
To blanket ignore them is as rediculus as blanket ignoring fox news.
I don't blanket ignore any news, actually I process it, and think for myself based on the facts I find.
all too often those facts are missing. (like the video of sherrod, which wasn't linked to any of the major media stories talking about the video...)
I looked at the video myself, saw her comments in context and based on her comments... you can guess...
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 1:09pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
Come on Whale, you rarely ever answer any of my questions,
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lol
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 1:09pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
Time has many hugely liberal slanted stories... Can they report objectively at times... yes.
Do they usually... No. |

- Do I agree with what the article is about or what it discovered?
- Yes!
- This is the exception to the rule. Squirrels, nuts, etc.
- No!
- This is just part of the great liberal conspiracy, and I, for one, am outraged!
Just like the Fox mistaken video pull vs. Reuters photo cropping.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 1:11pm
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whale, is this true?
http://www.mediaresearch.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp - http://www.mediaresearch.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 1:17pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
whale, is this true?
http://www.mediaresearch.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp - http://www.mediaresearch.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp |
Do more people who work in the media tend to vote Democratic? Yes, it's documented.
Do I believe that effects their work ethic on a grand scale? No. No more than having an opinion on Italian food, types of cars they like or music they listen to effects their reporting.
People have opinions and biases: Yes. People can check them at the door when at work: Yes.
Imagine that.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 1:23pm
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Except the proof says otherwise...
"JournoList was in fact a hotbed for left-wing ideologues to collude over how http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/20/documents-show-media-plotting-to-kill-stories-about-rev-jeremiah-wright/ - to kill stories that might hurt Obama, http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/21/fred-barnes-the-vast-left-wing-media-conspiracy/ - smear innocent conservatives as racist , http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/22/when-mccain-picked-palin-liberal-journalists-coordinated-the-best-line-of-attack/ - coordinate lines of attack against Palin , and work directly http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/26/journolist-debates-making-its-coordination-with-obama-explicit/ - with the Obama campaign , the question becomes:"
http://bigjournalism.com/jjmnolte/2010/07/28/journolist-shame-of-a-nation-politico-roger-simon-have-some-splaining-to-do/#more-99950 - http://bigjournalism.com/jjmnolte/2010/07/28/journolist-shame-of-a-nation-politico-roger-simon-have-some-splaining-to-do/#more-99950
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 1:25pm
This is getting out of hand.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 1:30pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
Except the proof says otherwise... |
Apparently we are going to fill more threads with this debate.
The "Proof" is that people involved in media talked about politics in their off time on the Internet in a listserv.
To some this is an OMG OUTRAGE. I'm just not one of them. Especially when a lot of then "Proof" is things posted by people who work for alt-publications and blogs who don't claim to be unbiased from the get-go, or the standard accusations of bias from reporters from the far-right that have been going on at Freep for a decade now.
Or, like in the last thread, someone on a political campaign - who everyone probably knew was working for a political campaign - who was posting stuff to try and sway reporters. Oh no. The horror.
blah blah
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Yes. I am aware of what Breitbart's site has to say on the matter. They are outraged, as usual.
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 1:31pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
JournOlist
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this is silly and annoying.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 1:34pm
Reb Cpl wrote:
FreeEnterprise wrote:
JournOlist
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this is silly and annoying.
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No, Reb, it's an OMG OUTRAGE.
Didn't you get the fax? You are supposed to be outraged by this.
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 1:37pm
agentwhale007 wrote:
Reb Cpl wrote:
FreeEnterprise wrote:
JournOlist
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this is silly and annoying.
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No, Reb, it's an OMG OUTRAGE.
Didn't you get the fax? You are supposed to be outraged by this.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 1:46pm
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Guess you guys missed rathergate...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy
This isn't a new issue, the press has been biased for as long as I can remember.
Back on topic.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews_excl/ynews_excl_sc3270 - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews_excl/ynews_excl_sc3270
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/07/so-has-anyone-seen-the-oil-that-spilled-into-the-gulf.html - http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/07/so-has-anyone-seen-the-oil-that-spilled-into-the-gulf.html
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 1:54pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
Guess you guys missed rathergate...
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Really? The Dan Rather situation?
You mean the one where a bunch of people got fired because they didn't properly fact check before moving forward with a story? And the one Dan Rather quit - rightfully - in shame after?
But no, yeah, no accountability in the media at all. Except those fired people.
Again, you'll never hear me defend this mindset that beating everyone to the story and being first is more important than properly vetting the story. I despise that mindset, as it has traveled from crappy-ass TV news networks to the new Internet age.
But, that moronic and destructive mindset is money and fame driven, not politically. Everybody wants to be famous instead of just doing a good job.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 2:02pm
Where's Bri with the fail stamp when you need him?
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 2:10pm
Alaska survived the Exxon Valdez, no not a trace of the oil. Oil is biological and breaks down in time, the slicks in the gulf have broken up and down to where the clots sink to the bottom and will over time breakdown.
This whole political agenda of finger pointing (I tend to blame enviornmentalists that forced drilling in 5000 feet of water rather than safer and easier to control 250feet of water). The game of cap and trade is just another government money grab. Disaters from oil spills, to lava flows, to earthquakes, to volcanos, to flooding have all been used to further a agenda on control is needed. Last I heard Bush caused and still causes natural disasters acording to the eco-nuts. Bush and Cheney sit in a room with a magical machine and still cause disasters, and Obama and crew are still totally blameless. Got to love the left.
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 2:16pm
Where do you get your news?
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 2:41pm
Benjichang wrote:
* catastrophe |
What specifically is this trophy awarded for?
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 2:43pm
oldsoldier wrote:
Alaska survived the Exxon Valdez, no not a trace of the oil. |
http://www.unc.edu/news/archives/dec03/peters121803.html - Visable oil is only one very small part of the long-lasting problem in Alaska.
I tend to blame enviornmentalists that forced drilling in 5000 feet of water rather than safer and easier to control 250feet of water |
And what about the fact that there are 3000+ shallow-water rigs in the Gulf of Mexico?
And
why would these fake "Environmentalists" in your mind even support
shallow-water drilling? The Ixtoc blew out in shallow water, and it is
one of the worst oil-based disasters on this side of the Earth.
And
why is it that the oil companies say that the reason they pursue
deep-water drilling is because the extraction rate of oil is faster and
there is much more oil to be had under deep waters?
Yes, all that "Big Environment" money that keeps all the politicians in the notoriously liberal blue Gulf states like Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama from allowing closer drilling.
How about we look at that "Big Environment" money and what they do to lobby vs. what the oil companies can do:
Total for Environment: $5,495,200 Total Number of Clients Reported: 92 Total Number of Lobbyists Reported: 314 World Wildlife Fund: $700,000 Nature Conservancy: $550,000 Environmental Defense Fund: $522,000 Clean Economy Network: $456,500 US Climate Action Partnership: $255,000 Defenders of Wildlife: $130,226 Green Tech Action Fund: $130,000 National Parks Conservation Assn: $127,772 Natural Resources Defense Council: $117,700 Intl Assn of Fish & Wildlife Agencies: $115,000
And now for the oil folks:
Total for Oil & Gas: $38,178,838 Total Number of Clients Reported: 150 Total Number of Lobbyists Reported: 609 ConocoPhillips: $6,408,978 BP: $3,530,000 Exxon Mobil: $3,390,000 Chevron Corp: $3,090,000 Royal Dutch Shell: $2,320,000 Koch Industries: $1,950,000 Marathon Oil: $1,380,000 Williams Companies: $1,340,000 Anadarko Petroleum: $1,320,000 American Petroleum Institute: $1,260,000
Last I heard Bush caused and still causes natural disasters acording to the eco-nuts. Bush and Cheney sit in a room with a magical machine and still cause disasters, and Obama and crew are still totally blameless. |
Source? Where were you reading this? I've not read anything like this.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 2:50pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
Except the proof says otherwise...
"JournoList was in fact a hotbed for left-wing ideologues to collude over how http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/20/documents-show-media-plotting-to-kill-stories-about-rev-jeremiah-wright/ - - smear innocent conservatives as racist , http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/22/when-mccain-picked-palin-liberal-journalists-coordinated-the-best-line-of-attack/ - - with the Obama campaign , the question becomes:"
http://bigjournalism.com/jjmnolte/2010/07/28/journolist-shame-of-a-nation-politico-roger-simon-have-some-splaining-to-do/#more-99950 - http://bigjournalism.com/jjmnolte/2010/07/28/journolist-shame-of-a-nation-politico-roger-simon-have-some-splaining-to-do/#more-99950 |
Okay, I'll grant that journoList was probably a "hotbed of liberal political activity." However, the 400 or so members of journalist, many of which aren't even in the news business, is a very small percentage of the nation's journalists. For instance, in 2006 there were approximately 58,000 employed by US daily newspapers.* If all of the Journalist members were actually in the media and this number represented all the people involved in all forms of the MSM then journalist would account for approximately 0.7% (rounded up) of all journalists. When you included the facts that not all members of the infamous list were actually in the MSM and how much larger the MSM population actually is the numbers, and hence the influence, becomes quite insignificant.
* http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/07/11/too-many-journalists/ - Link
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 2:54pm
Mack wrote:
* http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/07/11/too-many-journalists/ - Link
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That was an extremely interesting read. Thanks for that!
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 2:57pm
You're welcome.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 3:11pm
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Actually, I am not at all surprised at the journOlist thing at all... It is pretty obvious that there is a huge bias in our media.
What I am looking forward to in the future is using the following in every discussion with my liberal friends.
"We tried that under Obama when liberals controlled the white house and congress, _______ failed miserably"...
_________ can be any liberal ideal that now has been proven false.
keynesian economics
stimulus will keep unemployement under 8%
giving money to freddie and fannie based on skin color and not the ability to pay back loans
trying terrorists in civilian courts
closing gitmo
skipping congress approval with appointments
czars
higher taxes increase jobs
socialized healthcare
a biased media selecting our President for us...
Maybe we should blame bush...
No wait.
RACIST
did i dood it wite?
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 3:39pm
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Please stop the silly argumentation, yes you both have interesting points, but it has gotten to the point where it is difficult for me to read through a thread because I have to skip of your arguments.
Sincerely, kickin
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 6:13pm
You know why I am not going to read this thread?
You complained so much about how the government wasn't stopping the worst disaster ever, but just because someone now said it isn't as bad as was thought it's totally cool to bash on people saying it was horrible.
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Posted By: PAINTBALL1
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 6:23pm
To further de-rail, where do you have the best chance of finding the least bias news? Does such a place exists? I used to grab most of my news from Foxnews.com and still tend to watch them for TV broadcasts. However I've been finding more and more that I use Google.com/news. I'll read the same story from multiple agencies and make my own conclusions.
Also there used to be a website that just "gave the facts", it was news but just in short statements without all the extra stuff that's normally used to fluff it up. I've lost it, does it still exist?
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 6:28pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
"We tried that and congress failed miserably"... |
Fixed
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 6:29pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
I looked at the video myself, saw her comments in context and based on her comments... you can guess...
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So are you admitting you don't actually look for facts?
The way I read this is you admit to seeing Breitbart's video and condemn Sherrod for her words which were taken out of context.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 6:31pm
Silly jmac, it's okay when the right does it.
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 7:30pm
the funniest part is that you're willing to look silly and completely misspell a word just to make a juvenile statement.
Kudos.
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Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 7:44pm
Also FE.
Why do you.
Type.
Like this?
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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 8:01pm
in 2004 political threads were banned during the election. I miss the good ole days.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 8:28pm
NiQ-Toto wrote:
Also FE.
Why do you.
Type.
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He probably "knows" that it makes it more legible and factual and truthy to type like that. Just like he insisted using 1000 different type sizes was proper design and more influential..... not at all a terrible practice.
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 8:37pm
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I truly enjoy reading FE threads. It's always good to have that one conspiracy theory nut in the group. It makes me feel normal. It reminds me of the Mel Gibson movie "Conspiracy Theory." Well look at that FE...you've got another thing in common with Mel Gibson!
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 9:52pm
Dune wrote:
I truly enjoy reading FE threads. It's always good to have that one conspiracy theory nut in the group. It makes me feel normal. It reminds me of the Mel Gibson movie "Conspiracy Theory." Well look at that FE...you've got another thing in common with Mel Gibson! | FE is that friend you have that you can only take in doses. Seeing them every couple of weeks is fine, and can sometimes be entertaining/amusing/fun, but when they're around you for extended periods of time with no break, you start searching for the nearest bottle of vodka.
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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 10:37pm
FE is your crazy uncle that at every thanksgiving dinner all he does is make a crazy political statement that turns the dinner into a debate and your art school cousin goes home crying at the end.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 July 2010 at 11:39pm
^^^ Win
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 3:47am
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FE is that guy on network news that connects Obama with nazi socialism in ways that make you shake your head and wish your grandparents didn't watch.
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 6:29am
choopie911 wrote:
FE is that guy on network news that connects Obama with nazi socialism in ways that make you shake your head and wish your grandparents didn't watch. | ZOMG! FE IS GLEN BECK!
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 7:43am
I haven't seen FE post anything about gold yet.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 7:59am
jmac3 wrote:
FreeEnterprise wrote:
I looked at the video myself, saw her comments in context and based on her comments... you can guess...
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So are you admitting you don't actually look for facts?
The way I read this is you admit to seeing Breitbart's video and condemn Sherrod for her words which were taken out of context.
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I take it back... YOU can't guess jmac...
BTW. did you see your man Matthews destroy the meme about breitbart by accident yesterday at 5:00?...
It was so bad he actually RETAPED the show for the 7:00 replay!
hmm, journOlist?...
Here is a link to the humor...
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-matthews-retapes-sherrod-segment-for-7pm-hardball-rerun-after-5pm-flap/ - http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-matthews-retapes-sherrod-segment-for-7pm-hardball-rerun-after-5pm-flap/
Howard Dean is hysterical. (oh, wait was he trying to be serious... Hahahahahhhahahha).
See the news is biased, no matter who you get it from. The trick is to search for the facts. Who, what, where, why, and how. and find the answers yourself, as most media twists the facts to fit their agenda.
Do they mean to?... well, some do, as proven by journOlist. Others are just inept, or "too busy" to do a good job, (as whale would say).
On my homepage, I have newsbusters, hot air, breitbarts sites, drudge, usatoday, msnbc, fox news, yahoo news, la times, cincinnati enquirer, and world magazine.
It is a very diverse group, but by doing that, I get a good cross section of the nations news. I also typically look at wapo, American Thinker (have a bunch of friends that write there) and a few other sites during the day if a story peaks my interest.
I certainly don't look at only one source for my news, as that will just give you their "perspective" and that isn't "news" but typically bias. It is typically just a rehash of other stories ignoring the questions that come up in a story...
The major media also ignores huge stories, so I read about them by using google searches.
One that I have been following is the Shirley Sherrod back story about her "lawsuit" and the way she uses race to pirate money from the government (which she will now attempt to do to Breitbart by calling him a racist... and then suing him)... And who helped her along the way with this campaign to make her rich from the work of others?... Barack Oimagonnahelpyoustealfromtherichandgivetothepoorbama. (top that one whale)
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/07/real_sherrod_story_still_untol.html - http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/07/real_sherrod_story_still_untol.html
"..."As an old pro," Brown acknowledged, "I know that you don't fire someone without at least hearing their side of the story unless you want them gone in the first place." Brown observed that Sherrod had been a thorn in the USDA's side for years, that many had objected to her hiring, and that she had been "operating a community activist organization not unlike ACORN." Although Brown does not go into detail, he alludes to a class action lawsuit against the USDA in which she participated some years ago.
In the way of background, in 1997, a black farmer named Timothy Pigford, joined by four hundred other black farmers, filed a lawsuit against Bill Clinton's Secretary of Agriculture Dan Glickman, claiming that the USDA treated black farmers unfairly in all manner of ways, from price support # - loans to disaster payments to operating loans. Worse, they charged that the USDA had failed to process any complaints about racial discrimination.
The notion that the Clinton Ag Department had spent four years consciously denying black farmers their due defies everything we know about Clinton's use of race and should have made the media suspicious about Pigford's claims dating back to 1983.
Flush with revenue in 1999 and eager to appease this bedrock constituency, the administration settled with the farmers -- more realistically, their attorneys -- for fifty grand apiece, plus various other perks like tax offsets and # - loan forgiveness. If any of the presumably racist USDA offenders were punished, that news escaped the media.
After the consent decree was announced, the USDA opened the door to other claimants who had been similarly discriminated against. They expected 2,000 additional claims. They got 22,000 more, roughly 60 percent of whom were approved for this taxpayer-funded Lotto.
Despite having a year and a half to apply, some 70,000 more alleged claimants argued that they not only had been discriminated against, but also had been denied notice of the likely windfall that awaited them.
In 2008, for reasons unknown, Republican Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa lobbied to give the alleged 70,000 "another bite at the apple." Co-sponsoring the bill was none other than U.S. Senator Barack Obama. In February of 2010, the Obama administration settled with the aggrieved 70,000 for $1.25 billion that the government did not have to give. This # - money , by the way, was finessed out of a defense appropriation bill.
At the time, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said the agreement would close a "sordid chapter" in the department's history, a chapter in which no one seems to have been so much as reprimanded.
The major media reported the settlement as though it were the signing of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. For the last forty years, as the civil rights industry has manufactured more and more absurd grievances -- most notably the Tea Party smear that incited Breitbart's reprisal -- the media have reported on them with increasingly wide-eyed innocence.
In the various stories on the settlement, not one reporter that I could identify stopped to do the math. Pajamas Media did in a http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/2010/07/27/pigford-v-glickman-86000-claims-from-39697-total-farmers/?singlepage=true - by "Zombie" titled appropriately, "Pigford v. Glickman: 86,000 claims from 39,697 total farmers?"
Although 86,000 black farmers are alleged to have received payments, at no time in the last three decades have there been more than 40,000 black farmers. Nor is there much turnover in the farming business. No entrepreneurial activity involves more long-term investment.
Realistically, of the 40,000 or 86,000, how many could have applied for a USDA loan and been rejected while white farmers in comparable circumstances were getting loans? If there were hundreds, let alone thousands, the heads of loan officers should have been rolling around the USDA floors, but I know of no such purge.
More to the point, out of about $1 billion paid out so far in settlements, the largest amount has gone to the Sherrods' New Communities Incorporated, which received some $13 million. As Time Magazine approvingly reported this week, $330,000 was "awarded to Shirley and Charles Sherrod for mental suffering alone."
Unwittingly, Charles Sherrod shed light on the how and why of the settlement in a speech he gave in January 2010. As he explained, New Communities farmed its 6,000 acres successfully for seventeen years before running into five straight years of drought. Then, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD_tHu4vdS8&feature=related - to Sherrod, New Communities engaged in a three-year fight with the USDA to get the appropriate loans to deal with drought.
Said Sherrod, "They were saying that since we're a corporation, we're not an individual, we're not a farmer." Nevertheless, the Sherrods prevailed, but the late payments "caused us to lose this land." In other words, the bureaucratic delay over taxpayer-funded corporate welfare payments cost them their business.
Then, thanks to their "good lawyers," said a gleeful Sherrod, who seems to have fully recovered from his mental suffering, the Sherrods successfully sued the government for "a large sum of money -- a large sum of money." While saying this, he made hand gestures suggesting $15 million. The land itself was admittedly worth no more than $9 million.
Sherrod gave this talk to announce that the FCC had awarded New Communities a radio station in Albany, Georgia, still another race-based corporate welfare boondoggle. Before the award of this station, he added, the Sherrods "had no means of communicating with our people."
The "our people" in question, of course, are black people. With this new voice, the Sherrods will help " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrcJ3cBDS7Y - from stealing our elections. We must not be afraid to vote black.""
This information has been out there... Here is a post on it from tuesday the 20th... Right after the story broke... But ZERO major media picked up on it... Why?...
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/Examiner-Opinion-Zone/Shirley-Sherrods-Disappearing-Act-Not-So-Fast-98846149.html - http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/Examiner-Opinion-Zone/Shirley-Sherrods-Disappearing-Act-Not-So-Fast-98846149.html
And that is how you should look at the news. Most of the media is liberal democrat. With a very small group that is conservative. So pretty much everything you read will be from that perspective.
They will ignore stories like the one above, and instead focus on things that strike a cord with them... Like spinning a story to be about breitbart, who received an edited tape and aired it.
he didn't edit it. And it had the story of redemption in it... But, that didn't fit with the typical character assassination that comes when the left gets called out. (the crowd was clearly racist).
Nooo, spin it towards the person shining the light.
call them racist.
and sue.
While the media tries to destroy them.
Sadly many in this country don't think... they think they are looking at facts.. But, they are "facts" instead.
and even when faced with facts... they can't see them.
Just think for yourself.
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 9:57am
FreeEnterprise wrote:
On my homepage, I have newsbusters, hot air, breitbarts sites, drudge, usatoday, msnbc, fox news, yahoo news, la times, cincinnati enquirer, and world magazine. | People still use homepages?
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 11:48am
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Did the government cause the Gulf spill?
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/30/did-the-government-cause-the-gulf-spill/ - http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/30/did-the-government-cause-the-gulf-spill/
uh, oh... Better call BP "racists" quick...
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 12:11pm
This is getting sad, I say we just boycott this dumbass.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 12:31pm
reported...
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 1:18pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
reported... |
Seriously though it's getting a little out of hand, the arguments in every thread get old. You find something wrong with what everyone says, and instead of keeping it to yourself you insist on bringing it up and then we get 2 pages of junk.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 2:02pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
waaaaaugh! Mommmmmmy... |
Fixed.
Me awaits report.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 2:07pm
^^I can link him to the dreaded Mimes if you want, Mr. President.
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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 2:12pm
At any given time theres 3 threads made by FE with just him tallen, and whale debating. It's old and doesn't bring anything to forum as a whole
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Posted By: Ruska
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 2:13pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
reported... |
No
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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 2:16pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
See the news is biased, no matter who you get it from. |
Agreed. Now why do we need to debate this? Can we all just sit down and agree that news is biased and you can finally stop posting 3 massive copypasta threads on this forum every day?
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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 2:17pm
Skillet42565 wrote:
This is getting sad, I say we just boycott this dumbass.
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That's what I've been saying for EVER. Just ignore him like you would any troll. He feeds on attention, don't give him an audience and eventually he'll get tired of posting and having nobody care.
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Posted By: Ruska
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 2:42pm
I guess the forum was hopeful that maybe someday he'd actually be a useful contributing member, not just a copy paste copy paste copy paste copy paste machine. At least OS has original thoughts and threads that aren't just filled with innacurate rantings.
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 3:03pm
I'll give that to OS for sure. At least when he makes a thread, he doesn't fill it with Fox News and blogspam to back it up and crazies. It's like he actually thinks before he makes a thread, instead of just regurgitating talking points. Often, he makes a thread, I'll read it, and regardless of whether I agree with it or not, I can at least say he gets me to think in a different way.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 3:08pm
You left out that OS doesn't report anyone for "singling him out/picking in him" and OS will start threads about something other than politics. OS has a very interesting life.
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 4:40pm
Skillet42565 wrote:
This is getting sad, I say we just boycott this dumbass.
| This.
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 4:43pm
xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx wrote:
You find something wrong with what everyone says |
That's not even it. He find something wrong with something that someone else, completely unrelated to the forum and stupid, says and projects it on us as if we are hardcore supporters of the black panther party or something. It's one of the most idiotic things I've seen on a forum.
Enos Shenk wrote:
Skillet42565 wrote:
This is getting sad, I say we just boycott this dumbass.
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That's
what I've been saying for EVER. Just ignore him like you would any
troll. He feeds on attention, don't give him an audience and eventually
he'll get tired of posting and having nobody care.
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 5:04pm
Gatyr wrote:
xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx wrote:
You find something wrong with what everyone says |
That's not even it. He find something wrong with something that someone else, completely unrelated to the forum and stupid, says and projects it on us as if we are hardcore supporters of the black panther party or something. It's one of the most idiotic things I've seen on a forum.
| And then ignores history, saying that we are racists because democrats supported the KKK, only a week after claiming we were all supporters of the black panthers.
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 5:29pm
__sneaky__ wrote:
And then ignores history, |
No, then he accuses us of being revisionists because we don't agree with him.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 5:34pm
Just because I feel like it needs to be said sometimes:
I'm a republican. I don't agree with alot of the opinions that people hold here or that I interact with on a frequent basis, but I'm not crazy. Some of us are quite sane, and logical even!
I just felt like it needed to be said.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 30 July 2010 at 6:39pm
Ruska wrote:
I guess the forum was hopeful that maybe someday he'd actually be a useful contributing member . . . |
He is . . . when he stays away from political topics.
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