Need a name,
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Topic: Need a name,
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Subject: Need a name,
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 7:24am
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For a business. Quick story: My brother in law and I were shooting the breeze about our college days when the subject turned to beer pong. Half jokingly we said that we should start building custom painted beer pong tables to sell to local frats and sororities, sports teams, etc. One thing led to another and I mentioned the idea to a friend of mine who is in a newly formed sorority at SUNY Oneonta. She mentioned it to her organization, and they actually put in order, submitted a design, and are willing to generate some publicity for us out there among the greek organizations in exchange for a price deal which we happily arranged. We're literally starting from scratch, and this is a pretty good way to do it because there's very little overhead. We've gotten advice from my sister who started and runs a successful service business, and my brother in law himself is running a branch of the insurance company he works for. I don't have a head for that stuff, so I'll be handling the construction of the tables themselves. But we're stuck on what the hell to call ourselves. Our last names are awful to try to get anything out of, Lonecke and Krill (Yes, like the shrimp) So lets play pretend. Pretend you're in my shoes and have to come up with something clever and catchy, yet short enough to work as a web domain. If you need more info, I'll supply what I can. Thanks boys. ------------- ? |
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Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 7:38am
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I came here expecting to read that you are having another kid and want us to name it. I am very disappointed. As for the company name, it has to be something to do with balls.
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 7:42am
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I swear that I will consult this forum during the naming process of child #2 when that happens. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 7:54am
MANLY BEER PONG TABLES BY REB AND COMPANY, INC. For the drunk Frat boy in you. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
GroupB wrote:Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 8:57am
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Carpe Bibere
loose Latin translation (seize the drink, or gather the drink) Beer comes from the latin "bibere".
Whatever you do, sell them as "study tables"... So mom and pop won't bat an eye to pay for them. And make them waterproof so they can stay outside in the rain without warping.
http://www.carpebibere.com - www.carpebibere.com is available. ------------- They tremble at my name... 
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 8:58am
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L&K Beer Pong Tables. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 9:43am
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FE that's brilliant. OPBN, I like the simplicity behind yours too.
Waterproofing is a must we know that already, I'm toying with urethane or a plexiglass covering over the painted surface. I've actually got plans for one made out of whiteboard. ------------- ? |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 9:50am
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Beer Pong needs to be in the name. If I am looking for a Beer Pong table, I don't google some Latin crap, I google 'Beer Pong Table" ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 10:02am
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google searches aren't limited by the web site title... ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 10:14am
| I think the Latin name might be a tad highbrow for your average college frat/sorostitute |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 10:18am
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T&O Beer Pong Co. Limited. I fail to see how anything else is even being considered. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 10:28am
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Lambda Kappa Beer Pong Tables LLC. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 10:31am
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Death Cup Beer Pong Tables LLC Or Rebuttal Tables ------------- 
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 10:34am
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I would also accept Kappa Kappa Kappa Beer Pong LTD, because it would be funny.
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 11:06am
Conversely, the Latin might seem 'Greek enough' to your average frat boy, and the name recognition factor is high. I think Carpe Bibere Beer Pong Tables is a winner. "Yo, is that a Carpe Bibere?!" "YOU KNOW IT, BRO" *Brofist while looking at the camera* ------------- 
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 11:13am
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Lonecke and Krill sounds like a name for a law firm. In regards to the name, I think FE hit a homer. I can see the ad campaign now: Carpe Bibere . . . because you want to bounce your balls off the very best. ------------- 
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Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 11:42am
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FE stormed in and took a golden turd all over this thread. His name wins so far.
Lmao @ Gatyr, that mad me laugh ------------- I ♣ hippies. |
Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 11:44am
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FE's idea seems about right. It's got that mysterious hand crafted for centuries feel to it and if you do it right that's exactly what you want. I gave up after "Long shlonged pong dons" |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 12:09pm
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I don't drink, so I don't know the rules or how to play beer pong, but I live next to Miami University. So I see these contraptions EVERYWHERE.
The key is marketing. You have to get a good product that is different from the average. (most I see are old ping pong tables, or home made plywood.) Almost all are left outside, (though it seems they are low dollar) a high dollar would probably be brought inside to keep it from "disappearing".
Size is an issue, if you could figure a way to hang it on a wall for storage it might be cool, especially if the graphics are fresh, and make good wall "art".
Do you yell "beer pong" at any point in the game? Are there common rules for the game? variations?
I would add "professional" to the branding, so it sets it apart from cheap home made versions. And include "rule sheets" with the name you choose being the key, especially if there are multiple ways to play. You could have different colored rule pages. Again, I don't know, but I would assume when a player misses, they have to drink up. And if you could bring in the name, as what you yell before you drink... It could spawn youtube video's... Which would be free advertising.
For sure you need t-shirts. Something about seeing "Carpe Bibere" on shirts along side their frat name would be perfect... I would also check to make sure that is proper grammer... I picked the words from a google search, so it may be improper latin... ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 12:26pm
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The other team drinks when you make a ball in a cup.
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 12:35pm
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Something about drinking a beer with a ping pong ball in it that has been rolling around on a beer/spit/piss soaked floor never apppealed to me. Call me crazy. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 12:37pm
but there's a cup full of water so you can rinse it off!!!!!!! I'm also not a fan of beer pong. |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 12:40pm
------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 1:15pm
This . . . find your USP (Unique Selling Point)* and hammer it home as a common theme throughout everything related to the product. *The thing that your product specifically does/is that the competition doesn't do/isn't. (Remember, you sell the hole, not the drill.)** **Am now waiting for someone to turn this common marketing phrase into a naughty double entendre. -------------
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 1:29pm
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I hope you've got http://www.bpong.com/store - bpong.com 's prices beat. Don't take this as an insult, but I'm sure their design is better than what you're kicking around. Lightweight, durable and portable, their tables are super easy/quick to set up and they fold down to a 2' by 2' square that's 5" thick. Only drawback is their tabletop material makes it more difficult to sink bounce shots if you're used to playing on a wood table or board. It absorbs a good deal of energy from the ball when bounced. Have you considered something on the underside of the table to hold an extra set of ping pong balls for transportation? PM me your design when you have one, I'll get some opinions on it. ------------- 
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Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 2:28pm
| Chadbrochill17 Pong Tables, LLC. |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 3:19pm
Every time I have played it we had either a cup of water on the side to rinse the ball, or the cups were filled with water and you just filled an empty cup with beer when someone got one in. ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 3:28pm
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Tipsy Tables... ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 3:31pm
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The time I saw it played was around 93' in the basement of a fraternity house at Dartmouth. Around the perimeter next to the wall was some sort of drainage system that I assume was meant for if/when water got into the basement. It was at the time I was there, being used as an open urinal. Basically, you turned around, whizzed on the wall, zipped up and all done. Granted, I was a little ummm... "under the influence ' at the time, but remember watching the ball skip off the table, roll across the floor, through the trough and bounce off the wall. Kid picked the ball up, served it back and two vollies later it was sitting in some dudes beer that he proceeded to consume. I remember it pretty well, because I about had a coronary when I saw the kid drinking the beer with the nasty crud covered ball floating in it. My friend and I who were visiting both about hurled. We politely declined when asked if we wanted to play. I imagine playing in this sort of manner would give one quite a bit of incentive to not miss. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 3:48pm
That's just disgusting. When we play the floor is swept first and we've got water cups to rinse balls. We also change the water out every 2 games. Then again I'm not in a frat, nor do I play with fratards. -------------
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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 3:52pm
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Pro tip: never touch a frat's basement floor
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 4:05pm
That's become more and more popular over the last couple of years. Though, last year I heard that beer pong is the most common spreader of herpes/influenza. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 4:08pm
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Reb, for water/weatherproofing, use epoxy. That's what you find on all durable wood products these days. Dining room tables, rustic furniture, wooden boats, etc. It's cheap, crystal clear, and so durable you can drop the finished product down a flight of concrete stairs without much of a worry. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 4:23pm
No offense taken- you raise good points. As far as pricing goes, I won't know full well until I make the prototype for Pi Phi Sigma this weekend. I've got to figure a solid cost of materials before we can start contemplating retail price. Our design won't be anything like what is out there professionally made. We're not skimping on quality, and with our available resources, that means its probably not going to be as lightweight, simply because we don't have the production capabilities. I'm hoping the customization factor will help offset our inability to match up with professionally graded products. If not- there's not much overhead here, so its not like we'll take a bath of this thing fails. What we're really pushing is that our tables will be a blank slate until you submit your design to us. PPS had someone draw up a design for them last night and I got it in email this morning. The logo, the slogans, its all up to the consumer. There's still a lot of kinks to work out for sure, I don't have all the answers by any means, but hey....you gotta start somewhere. Thanks for all the help guys. - Tallen, I never thought of epoxy. That's clever. And here's the first design we'll be working on this weekend- again, completely designed by the customer:  ------------- ? |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 4:28pm
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I'm also hatching a plan to make one that's slightly wider than the 2' regulation and make it reversible- with the back side being lined with green felt to double as some kind of poker or dice table.
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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 4:35pm
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Idk if this is feasible but some kind of gutter or lip on the table would be great for spills
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 4:36pm
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How are you planning on doing the design on the table? Would vinyl graphics work? Would be cleaner than hand painting unless you are really artistic. Than again, would the vinyl absorb too much of the bounce? ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 4:39pm
For right now, hand painted is how we're going. My wife is extremely artistic, I showed her this design and her response was "Eh, no problem" We've decided that we're going to look into other options later on, but for now they're too cost prohibitive for us trying to get in on the ground floor. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 5:22pm
That's your USP. It lends itself to a campaign with something along the lines of "you can have a beer pong table like everyone else or you can have one that's uniquely yours." If you offered to put the customer's name on it for free, then it would be very likely that the various frats/sororities would be repeat customers every four years or so. Keep in mind this USP appeals to a niche market.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 5:48pm
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"Restack" is a fun word to play around with for a business name of that type. The thing that HV brought up is true. You'll have to out-design them on the customizability of the product. And what Mack said: It'll be the frats, sororities, sports fans and other clubs that will buy this instead of a standard BPL table. You'll have to get in with those groups. Which leads me to . . . If you want I'll help you out with very basic marketing concepts as well. I know how to do marketing stuff and I know the college demographic quite well. You know how to get a hold of me. P.S. Have you considered making custom Cornhole decks as well? |
Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 5:51pm
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Oh, and I hated the idea of beer pong - I thought it was a dumb game for frat-bros - until I actually played it. I like it quite a bit. It's fun when not played super-seriously. Just having a table in the back yard to play casually.
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Posted By: DaveEllis
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 6:47pm
I agree, its quite a social game actually...with some friendly competition thrown in...what's not to love?
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Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 7:01pm
I always play with a personal beer to drink and fill the cups with water. Much more sanitary.
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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 7:06pm
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I don't have any idea for the name but since beer pong is almost a state sport for NJ I felt I should add some input.
Straying away from the obvious college and frat logos/letters being painted on, I would also market new table designs besides the usual plain, rectangle tables. It would help you compete with companies that can just print and paste pictures on a table. Also, maybe make tables with LED lights or something along those lines. No frat house parties with the lights on, and not being able to clearly see the cups or the table can get annoying. ------------- 
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 8:12pm
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West Viginia wins the beer pong table competition. Can't believe I didn't remember this earlier. *Warning* Obviously Youtube comments are beyong my control, video should be good though. Worth the watch. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 9:39pm
| You wouldn't call your country a <derogatory word for a female> so why call a fraternity a frat? |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 9:43pm
Oooh ooh, because I like my country!  ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 9:46pm
| Because frats are lame. |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 9:53pm
Yep, they are. That is why guys in a fraternity have a higher 4-year graduation rate than independents. That is why, while we make up only 2% of the population, about 80% of the Fortune 500 CEOs are in a fraternity. That is why 40 of the 47 Supreme Court Justices since 1910 have been in a fraternity. I could go on and on, but I'm about to go get my frat on, ice a bro or two and sexually assault a chick because, after all, that is clearly all fraternities do. |
Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 10:05pm
| /DUI |
Posted By: DaveEllis
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 10:07pm
Can we please differentiate between the ivy league fraternities you reference and your standard bronation fraternity. |
Posted By: DaveEllis
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 10:17pm
| and social fraternities or professional fraternities? |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 10:30pm
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Frats are fail. I was in one for awhile. It was a social/professional pharmacy fraternity, and got pretty old after they let a bunch of total d-bag stereotypical frat types pledge. Went downhill, and I quit. -------------  irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 10:51pm
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I was in a fraternity as well. There was good and bad about it just like any organization. In the end, it really wasn't for me. I just couldn't justify the costs vs benefits. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 11:55pm
Darn . . . I knew I should have joined a fraternity when I went back to college. (Actually, they probably would have turned me down because of my age . . . at least until I pointed out that nobody would ever card me when they wheeled me into the liquor store.) -------------
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Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 08 September 2010 at 11:59pm
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New law here is that EVERYONE gets carded. This woman could walk into a liquor store and they can't legally sell her anything without an ID. 
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 09 September 2010 at 12:21am
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screw led lights, use EL lighting... http://www.thatscoolwire.com/store/category.asp?CategoryID=168 - http://www.thatscoolwire.com/store/category.asp?CategoryID=168 |
Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 09 September 2010 at 12:37am
Why do that when you can just bro out, bro. |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 09 September 2010 at 12:38am
Fix'd ------------- 
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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 09 September 2010 at 12:48am
Dude, I love you. I'm so buying from them to do the the interior lighting around my car speakers. -------------
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Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 09 September 2010 at 1:50am
Here in Utah, the cashiers at state liquor stores are cops. |