FBI puts tracking device on car...
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Topic: FBI puts tracking device on car...
Posted By: SSOK
Subject: FBI puts tracking device on car...
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 10:39pm
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discovered by oil change.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39583860/ns/technology_and_science-security/?GT1=43001 - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39583860/ns/technology_and_science-security/?GT1=43001 ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 10:52pm
| Yeah, I saw the original post on reddit, and was happy to see some follow up today. Crazy stuff |
Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 08 October 2010 at 11:18pm
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Frankly, I don't think it's either evil on the FBI's part or indicative of any wrong-doing on the kid's part. The reality is that there are a lot of relatively extreme Muslim elements in Egyptian society, with connections to the greater web of Islamic terrorism, and without knowing if the student actually had social relations with people in those circles, I can see it happening relatively easily. My mother works for a non-profit which works in Egypt, and I guarantee that any of you who have not been to a Muslim country would be amazed by the way the country runs. Islamic law is no way to live, in my opinion. I think to some extent the idea that the FBI is tracking him could be scary, but frankly there are a lot of other "Big Brother" things I'm far more worried about. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 2:39pm
| If he only had bought a GM, they wouldn't have needed to plant a device on it. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 2:47pm
| If only he had a corvette, the magnet wouldn't stick to plastic |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 3:07pm
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ParielIsBack wrote:Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 3:23pm
Assuming this is essential liberty... ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 3:28pm
------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 3:53pm
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It is legal, because the Supreme Court says so. Frankly, this isn't on I give a crap about. Law enforcement tools are just that, tools. Sometimes you have to use crappy methods to get information even if it proves someone isn't guilty. Life's not perfect, live with it. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 4:14pm
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If I proper warrant was indeed had for this type of thing, I've not no problem with it. If a warrant wasn't gotten, then that's no good. However, I can honestly say I had no idea that GPS tracking things were that big. That doesn't seem right. Life should be like movies. They should be the size of a dime.
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 4:16pm
------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 4:22pm
Well you gotta remember they can't exactly recharge the battery.  I guess given the right amount of time, you could just attach it to the wiring harness of the car, I just don't know how convenient that would actually be.
Warrants are good things. I'm all for 'em. I don't think it would be unfair to require a warrant in this case. At the same time, I don't think it's an issue that they didn't if it's legal. If they were, say, tracking his cell phone, that would be a much bigger deal in my book. From what little reading I have done so far, it appears that this can only occur in states covered by the 9th District courts. Apparently their ruling is the one that says you can be tracked without a warrant. So, I both remembered the article incorrectly after a couple days, and the issue hasn't been settled. Interesting. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 4:32pm
They discussed this in one of the articles, that this was a large older model, and frequently newer ones had no battery and instead tapped into the car |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 4:51pm
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Must be super old. I mean think about how small cell phone gps systems are... on cell phones which can be bought for under $200. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 5:26pm
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I don't like it, not because of the act itself, but as Sneaky pointed out, it's a slope to every evil government movie I've ever seen. I don't like the idea of the government feeling free to just drop a tracker onto a car at the slightest bit of suspicion.
That said, I guess times is a changing. |
Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 5:30pm
Or . . .  |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 5:52pm
------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 5:57pm
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I think there is something to be said for private property. This is the only example I can think of off hand that doesn't require probable cause to invade said private property. That, I think, is very worrying. Checks and balances exist with good reason. I guess part of the reason I am comfortable with this is because the FBI isn't just dropping them willy nilly, or putting them on political dissidents, or anything like that. To some extent they use their tools wisely, which is what the judge ensures when issuing a warrant. As I said, I don't think it would be unreasonable to require a warrant for this. I just don't feel too worried (at least at the moment) that they don't. If the FBI were still run by Hoover, well, I might be against this entirely. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 6:06pm
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Point taken, I don't like it, obviously. Happily, Hoover isn't running the FBI, as being dead makes that difficult, but I believe in removing the source of temptation in one way or another; rather than hoping to resist the temptation instead. But, I'm not exactly running for my tin foil hat just yet. ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 6:08pm
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Meh. If they wanted to use the man power they could have just followed the man around. Would you people still be complaining then? They wouldn't be invading any private property. ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 09 October 2010 at 6:46pm
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Or so you think... ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 11 October 2010 at 10:34am
------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 11 October 2010 at 11:15am
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