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Topic: Parking Troubles
Posted By: pntbl freak
Subject: Parking Troubles
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 2:22pm
So today I had some crotchety old guy telling me I cant park in front of his house.

Let me explain a little bit so this will make more sense.  Parking here on campus sucks.  Picture the campus as a big square and inside that square there is no parking for students.  You can pay for a pass to park in some of the parking garages or the football stadium parking lot which is on the edge of of this square.  Outside of the square you will find public streets that are marked as "2 hour parking".  If you go farther out you get into streets that aren't marked at all. 

So every Monday morning I have class followed by work from 9:30-1:30.  I dont have a parking pass and that is well over the 2 hour limit so I go out to the streets that are not marked.  Its a little over a half mile away from campus and I don't mind the walk.  I would like to note that on average, there is around 20 other cars parked there too.

I return to my car today after work and as I get in, someone pulls up along side of me.  I expect they want the spot but instead he lines up his window with mine.  I notice its an older man and now I am expecting him to ask me to not park in front of his sidewalk leading from the front of the house because this has happened before with a different house.  He rolls down the window and the conversation goes like this..(this is from memory so it will be a bit off)

Crotchety Man - "This is my house you are parked in front of.  Would you mind if you park somewhere else?"

Me - "I dont have a pass to park anywhere else and there are no signs saying I cant park here."

Crotchety Man - "Look, I'm trying to ask you nicely to not park in front of my house.  How would you like it if you lived in this house and all these cars parked here every day"  (His tone starts to get a little angry)

Me - "Well there are no signs or markings saying I cant park here and there's nothing you can do about it"

Crotchety Man - "We'll see about that!"  (Tone is no longer a little angry and he is upset by this)

He pulls forward into his neighbors driveway and I pull out into the street.  I pull into the driveway across the street to turn around and he gets out of the car with a piece of paper and a pen.  He runs towards the back of my car and I assume he was writing down my license plate number.

I'm not worried about this at all because I have parked on that street every Monday since August.  A grad student actually let me know about the street last year and he has parked there for the past 3 years. However, I was wondering what you guys thought the Crotchety Man's intentions are with my license plate number.

EDIT - I will still park there next Monday.


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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 2:29pm
Skin hat him before he can talk to anyone.

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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 2:41pm
As a fellow Crotchety Old Man, I agree with him. Buy a pass and quit parking in front of his house. I know it sucks to be him, but have a little empathy. If you decide to ignore his request, don't be surprised to find your tires slit or "a..hole" drawn out on your hood in brake fluid.
 
Edit: I want to note that if you did not have a viable alternative such as the parking garage, my answer may be different. Also note, that it would depend on the type of street it is as well.


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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 3:09pm
After talking to him like that, you'll be lucky if he doesn't petition(and probably win) for his street to become a No Parking area. GG.

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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 3:40pm
Doesn't really seem like a crotchety old man to me. Just some guy who would like to park in front of his house. If he doesn't like you there, just park in front of someone else's house. I don't see the big deal.

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Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 3:52pm
Way to be a douche to an old guy that just wants to park near his house. 

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Posted By: pntbl freak
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 3:56pm
I dont really have any other option for parking and I only park there on Monday.  Parking garages require a pass and the pass is $250 per semester.

If you live off campus on the north side, you most likely come into campus on one main street.  Where I park is on a street that is perpendicular with this main road.  On the other side of the main road is the football and basketball stadiums.  When you enter into the street I park on there is a fraternity house sitting on the corner.  On weekend nights, the street is full of people from the fraternity.  When there is a home football or basketball game there street is again full.

I wasn't trying to be rude and was going to offer that I try to not park in front of his house next time.  But his tone changed and I was becoming impatient.  I wasn't the only car parked in front of his house either.  There is a line of cars parks on this street daily.

He also has his own 2 car garage and a fairly huge driveway.  So he wasn't trying to park on the street.


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Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 3:59pm
His tone changed because "and there's nothing you can do about it."

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Posted By: pntbl freak
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 4:02pm
His tone changed when I first said that I park here because I don't have a pass and have to go to work.  There's no signs saying I cant. 

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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 4:25pm
Legally, you are right.
 
Morally, you are wrong. You wont go to hell for parking your car in front of his house, but if someone were to politely ask for me to not park there I would attempt to park somehwere else or park there less often.
 
My highschool has a similar situation, where the juinors are SOL for parking. My sophomore year and old woman slashed a few tires because of it.


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Posted By: pntbl freak
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 4:47pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

 
Morally, you are wrong. You wont go to hell for parking your car in front of his house, but if someone were to politely ask for me to not park there I would attempt to park somehwere else or park there less often.
 


I agree completely.  But like today there wasn't any other spots. 

I want to clarify that when I said I will park there next Monday, I meant Ill park on that street. If there is another spot open Ill park there, but if I have to park in front of his house I will.


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Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 4:52pm
If he has a garage and driveway, that's brutal.  Must suck to live in an area like that.
 
"there are no signs saying I cant park here" He didnt ask you if you read the sign.  He asked if you'd mine to move. Clearly you had a problem moving.  Clearly he had a problem with you having a problem.  After all he asked you pretty nicely.
 
I could see your tires slashed forsure.


Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 7:02pm
the street in front of his house is city/state property, he can't say squat.

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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 7:36pm
To the old man: QQ moar.

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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 22 November 2010 at 7:38pm
People park in front of my house constantly, because I live down the street from an elementary school.  Also for some strange reason my neighbors like to park their car under one of our trees.  Never quite figured that one out.

Either way, neither myself or my family has ever been bothered by it.  It's a street.  If they were blocking the driveway, or parking on my lawn, it'd be a different story.  If you can't share a street, tough luck.


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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 12:45am
There was one house back near my highschool that we called the crazy lady. She lived on the corner of a street and a main road for the area. She didn't like people parking on the street infront of her house so she would rake up leaves and put them in big black bags and stick them in the street all across the front yard.

Back to being related:
you came off as a jerk in this situation.


Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 1:12am
is the parking pass cheaper than your time walking 1/2 mile back and forth every day + the cost of a new set of tires?

my neighbor was parking infront of my house... i blocked them in one day and it was a while before they did it again... now the neighbors kids bf is parking infront of my house so im gonna line that side of the house with vehicles :D

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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 10:31am
Originally posted by RoboCop RoboCop wrote:

Back to being related:
you came off as a jerk in this situation.


True.


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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 10:54am
Originally posted by merc merc wrote:

is the parking pass cheaper than your time walking 1/2 mile back and forth every day + the cost of a new set of tires?

my neighbor was parking infront of my house... i blocked them in one day and it was a while before they did it again... now the neighbors kids bf is parking infront of my house so im gonna line that side of the house with vehicles :D


Nice.  We have a rental next door that usually has younger singles in it and they have lots of friends over on a regular basis.  I really don't care where they park, but it would be nice to have my pickup near my house (garage is already full, driveway is to the alley and too short to park on).  Asking nicely that they leave a spot didn't work so I put all three cars out front for a couple of days and they got the hint.


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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 11:03am
I really fail to see what the guy's beef is. He lives on a street where parking is allowed. This is a reality in just about every municipality you can imagine. You're not special. You can't control who parks on the street just because you happen to live along side it.

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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 11:06am
Wasn't any need to be a jerk to the old man, but unlike most of the white knights in here I agree the street is public property and you can park there. If old dude is that upset about it maybe he shouldn't live so close to campus. Old guy may not like all these young whippersnappers parking on the street in front of his house but he's gotta get over it, not retaliate.

I had some old guy try to box my car in a parking space because I parked in the striped spot next to a handicap spot in front of a Mapco. There was nowhere else to park aside from the actual handicap spot. Even the pumps were taken. I came out after purchasing an energy drink to find him pulled up snug behind my car trying to write down my plate number. I tried to reason with him that I hadn't taken the handicap spot and he had room to park but he was being a tool, so I stopped talking to him and left. Stupid old man didn't expect the guy parked in the spot in front of me to leave so I darted before he got the cap off his pen. Old guys need to SMOKE MOAR.


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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 11:16am
Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

I really fail to see what the guy's beef is. He lives on a street where parking is allowed. This is a reality in just about every municipality you can imagine. You're not special. You can't control who parks on the street just because you happen to live along side it.
I think his beef is that it isn't people from his neighborhood parking there, but students that should be parking on campus. Quit being a cheap jackass and buy a parking pass. If it was during football games or some other special event, he probably could care less, but to have both sides of your street taken up because a bunch of students are too damn cheap to pay to park where they are supposed to, it can be rather annoying. Again, do they have the right to do it? Sure. Should they excercise this right? Probably not if it bothers the people that reside in the neighborhood. If it is a true "urban" area and it is normal to park there, that is one thing. If it is truly a residential area where it is not unreasonable to expect only those living in the neighborhood to park there, that is another.  Problem with going and getting it designated as a no parking zone is that he most likely still needs to be able to park on the road or have people visiting park on the road. I have seen people petiton to change the parking status of an area and realize that.... "oops, now wth is everyone going to park on Thanksgiving day?". 

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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 11:24am
That's the consequence of living next to a school/bar/club/store/whatever. People are going to park on your street to use those facilities. Deal with it.

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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 11:26am
Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

Deal with it.
Trust me, I would....

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Posted By: Flurry
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 11:35am
I can see the old guy's point of view.  You live on a nice street and some college students are always parking in front of your house.  Some college students have in the past thrown trash and made a load of noise.  Old guy is tired of all of the college students parking on the street and asks nicely but with backbone to please park elsewhere.  Punk college kid now throws kindness back on old man's face.  Old man stands ground.   Punk college kid leave after arguing.  Old man takes down license plate in case HIS car or house gets vandalised.
On the other hand.  The parking on the street is legal.  You can park your car on the other side of town and walk home, as long as you don't break any ordances.  You presented your reasons for parking where you did to the old man.  Old man could have been somewhat understanding about the school and work thing.   I can see both sides of this issue.  But by a legal view...you're good. 
 
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 11:35am
So you're going to mess with someone's car or report them because they're parking where they're legally allowed to? 

I'm assuming that's what you're saying. What do you mean by "you'd deal with it?"

edit- @ opbn

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Also:

<benji> i used to live on a residential street right off ONU's campus
<benji> people parked there every day
<benji> by 5 pm, they were all cleared out
<High_Voltage> that's what gets me
<High_Voltage> it isn't like your neighbor parking there for days
<benji> yeah :/ 
<High_Voltage> it's someone going to school, to make something better for themselves


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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 11:42am
Originally posted by Flurry Flurry wrote:

I can see the old guy's point of view.  You live on a nice quiet street

Yeah, I think you missed part of the story.

Originally posted by pntbl pntbl wrote:

When you enter into the street I park on there is a fraternity house sitting on the corner.


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Posted By: Flurry
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 11:45am
Cops love getting those calls. 
911- "911, what's your emergency?"
Caller - "Yeah, some guy is parked on the street infront of my house."
911- "Sir, if you don't have an emergency please hang up and dial 555-555-5555.  Do you have an emergency?"
Caller- "Yeah, I told you that some AXX XXXX is parked infront of my house on my street and I need an Officer here right now."
911 - "Sir, is there anyone in the vehicle or were any threats made?"
Caller - "NO, But the driver was some little smart XXX College punk that said he could park there."
911 -  I'm sending an Officer to tell you that there is nothing we can do because it is a legal parking spot for anyone and EVERYONE to park in.  The Officer will probly yell at you for abusing the emergency number."
Cops love those calls.


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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 12:11pm
Perhaps part of my problem is the fact that I absolutely hate it when people park on the road in residential neighborhoods. Drives me nuts.

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Posted By: TheSpookyKids87
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 3:08pm
I agree, and the old man has a driveway and garage.   I live next to a high school that also has night school and other various high school events.   The parking is awful and I have no driveway and will have to park quite a distance some nights I feel like I don't have that much right to complain.

There are people on my street that "claim" spots in the winter when they dig out their cars and leave, they will leave cones and lounge chairs in the parking spot.


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 7:01pm
Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Wasn't any need to be a jerk to the old man, but unlike most of the white knights in here I agree the street is public property and you can park there.

True.  My brother-in-law has a neighbor who thinks the spot in front of his house his his private parking spot.  The guy was a butt to me one time when I visited so for a while I always made sure to park there if it was open.

If old dude is that upset about it maybe he shouldn't live so close to campus. Old guy may not like all these young whippersnappers parking on the street in front of his house but he's gotta get over it, not retaliate.

This.  If it really bugs him, he should get the city to establish a residential parking zone.  (Basically residents all get window tags/stickers and anyone parked on the street without one gets ticketed/towed.)

I had some old guy try to box my car in a parking space because I parked in the striped spot next to a handicap spot in front of a Mapco. There was nowhere else to park aside from the actual handicap spot. Even the pumps were taken. I came out after purchasing an energy drink to find him pulled up snug behind my car trying to write down my plate number. I tried to reason with him that I hadn't taken the handicap spot and he had room to park but he was being a tool, so I stopped talking to him and left. Stupid old man didn't expect the guy parked in the spot in front of me to leave so I darted before he got the cap off his pen. Old guys need to SMOKE MOAR.

Actually, you were in the wrong.  The striped spot is part of the handicap parking area.  Many handicapped need additional room to open doors to their fullest for entry/exit, to fold/unfold walkers/wheelchairs or for the use of wheelchair ramps/lifts on vehicles equipped with same.


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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 7:09pm
He doesn't own the street infront of his house, so as long as you aren't breaking any laws, keep parking there if you want.


My neighbor often has a bunch of people over at his house, and they will park infront of my yard all the time. They never block the driveway, and it never inhibits me getting in or out, so I don't care.


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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 7:29pm
Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

He doesn't own the street infront of his house, so as long as you aren't breaking any laws, keep parking there if you want.


My neighbor often has a bunch of people over at his house, and they will park infront of my yard all the time. They never block the driveway, and it never inhibits me getting in or out, so I don't care.
This might be the first time we've ever agreed on something.

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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 9:15pm
Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

He doesn't own the street infront of his house, so as long as you aren't breaking any laws, keep parking there if you want.


My neighbor often has a bunch of people over at his house, and they will park infront of my yard all the time. They never block the driveway, and it never inhibits me getting in or out, so I don't care.
This might be the first time we've ever agreed on something.


I care . . . the colors of their cars clash with my shrubs when they are in bloom.


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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 23 November 2010 at 9:46pm
Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:


Originally posted by Linus Linus wrote:

He doesn't own the street infront of his house, so as long as you aren't breaking any laws, keep parking there if you want.


My neighbor often has a bunch of people over at his house, and they will park infront of my yard all the time. They never block the driveway, and it never inhibits me getting in or out, so I don't care.
This might be the first time we've ever agreed on something.


There's been other times... like that one time that, well.. hey, after over 6 years I'm sure there WAS another time.

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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 24 November 2010 at 1:39am
Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:



I had some old guy try to box my car in a parking space because I parked in the striped spot next to a handicap spot in front of a Mapco. There was nowhere else to park aside from the actual handicap spot. Even the pumps were taken. I came out after purchasing an energy drink to find him pulled up snug behind my car trying to write down my plate number. I tried to reason with him that I hadn't taken the handicap spot and he had room to park but he was being a tool, so I stopped talking to him and left. Stupid old man didn't expect the guy parked in the spot in front of me to leave so I darted before he got the cap off his pen. Old guys need to SMOKE MOAR.

Actually, you were in the wrong.  The striped spot is part of the handicap parking area.  Many handicapped need additional room to open doors to their fullest for entry/exit, to fold/unfold walkers/wheelchairs or for the use of wheelchair ramps/lifts on vehicles equipped with same.

Duh, but dude didn't have anything like that, his Buick was all classic landboat and there was plenty of room for him to park. Was I inconsiderate parking there? Yes. Did my parking job inconvenience anyone? Hell no. All in all, meh, don't care.


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Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 24 November 2010 at 7:26am
THATS JUST IT, YOU YOUNGINS NEVER CARE

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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 24 November 2010 at 10:06am
Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:



I had some old guy try to box my car in a parking space because I parked in the striped spot next to a handicap spot in front of a Mapco. There was nowhere else to park aside from the actual handicap spot. Even the pumps were taken. I came out after purchasing an energy drink to find him pulled up snug behind my car trying to write down my plate number. I tried to reason with him that I hadn't taken the handicap spot and he had room to park but he was being a tool, so I stopped talking to him and left. Stupid old man didn't expect the guy parked in the spot in front of me to leave so I darted before he got the cap off his pen. Old guys need to SMOKE MOAR.

Actually, you were in the wrong.  The striped spot is part of the handicap parking area.  Many handicapped need additional room to open doors to their fullest for entry/exit, to fold/unfold walkers/wheelchairs or for the use of wheelchair ramps/lifts on vehicles equipped with same.

Duh, but dude didn't have anything like that, his Buick was all classic landboat and there was plenty of room for him to park.

What he was driving has nothing to do with you being in the wrong.  The fact that their was room does not make what you did less illegal.  (Plus you have no idea who may have needed/tried to park there but was unable to because you considered your need for purchasing an energy drink with minimum physical exertion on your part to be more important than either the law or the needs of someone who might have had a valid reason to use that spot.)

 Was I inconsiderate parking there? Yes.

There's part of the problem right there.

Did my parking job inconvenience anyone? Hell no.

This is irrelevant.

All in all, meh, don't care.

That would be a major part of the problem right there.  All in all, if you're going to break the law, and be a tool, and don't care that you're being a tool, don't be surprised if someone attempts to report you.


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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 24 November 2010 at 10:29am
Originally posted by Tical3.0 Tical3.0 wrote:

THATS JUST IT, YOU YOUNGINS NEVER CARE

I KNO RITE!?

Mack, I'm not justifying it, merely pointing out I broke the law and the world kept turning. And the fact I didn't inconvenience the old man or anyone else IS relevant, it's the reason for letting it go and moving on with life. You're acting like that old man.. oh wait, nvm I get it.


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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 24 November 2010 at 12:08pm
Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Originally posted by Tical3.0 Tical3.0 wrote:

THATS JUST IT, YOU YOUNGINS NEVER CARE

I KNO RITE!?

Mack, I'm not justifying it, merely pointing out I broke the law and the world kept turning. And the fact I didn't inconvenience the old man or anyone else IS relevant, it's the reason for letting it go and moving on with life.

So, if I blow off a stop sign, speed through a school zone or run with scissors through the playground of the MSDB* it's okay as long as no one gets hurt?

Rules/laws are in place for a reason.  Sometimes that reason is safety, sometimes it's to protect the rights of others, and there are many other reasons.  While there may be valid reasons for ignoring them at some point mere convenience is not one and the fact that no one was inconvenienced/hurt does not justify/excuse such actions.

You're acting like that old man.. oh wait, nvm I get it.

And you acted like a thoughtless young punk** so I have to say that given a choice, I prefer old man behavior.


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Date Posted: 24 November 2010 at 12:26pm
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