Wikileaks 'moving to switzerland'
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Topic: Wikileaks 'moving to switzerland'
Posted By: SSOK
Subject: Wikileaks 'moving to switzerland'
Date Posted: 03 December 2010 at 11:30am
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I feel like a hypocrite on this one.
I have long been angry with Wikileaks, and seen them as detrimental to the efforts in the Middle East. Im all for revealing things like Tinamen Square, but releasing info that does nothing to agitate other countries without really helping anyone... not so much.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40486718/ns/us_news-wikileaks_in_security - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40486718/ns/us_news-wikileaks_in_security
Its some scary crap. When reading the article all I keep seeing is 'yep, China does that'.
Im all for Wikileaks to get slapped around until they become responsible... but this screams "1984", "North Korea" and "China".
Edit: I wish Wikileaks would post the stuff about the UFO's in the cables. I would consider Assange a hero if he published all of the data on JFK.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 03 December 2010 at 1:22pm
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I'm strongly opposed to Wikileaks' release of diplomatic cables and military information from democratic states- but I'm also amused by how so many people suddenly cringe when the shoe's on the other foot. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 03 December 2010 at 2:21pm
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I'm not sure Assange is doing enough good that I care. As a general method of dealing with people disseminating government information, this one reeks, though. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 03 December 2010 at 3:46pm
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As long as it's all truthful unaltered information, he can post whatever government related information he feels like as far as I'm concerned. ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: Dazed
Date Posted: 03 December 2010 at 4:03pm
And unclassified. Doing so used to be called journalism. I don't know what it is anymore. |
__sneaky__ wrote:Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 03 December 2010 at 4:56pm
| As I said before, all or nothing. Bias of omission would be cried out constantly if he picked and chose which items to release. Everyone wants transparency (or ideally should) but then whines when it happens. |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 03 December 2010 at 5:16pm
Pretty much summed up what I was going to say. ------------- |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 03 December 2010 at 9:46pm
Except it's not unaltered, it's classified, and it's dangerous. ------------- 
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 03 December 2010 at 11:00pm
Citations on the current batch of stuff, or things since the helicopter video, being altered?
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 03 December 2010 at 11:03pm
Where those supposed to be connected? Or are you saying that the combination of those three things is why it's bad? I don't know to what extent it's actually altered (having only seen media reports, rather than the actual files.) ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 03 December 2010 at 11:38pm
| You guys know you can see the files on the website right? Check em out.... they're all pretty boring. |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 1:29am
------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 2:44am
Now let's start the debate of whether something should be classified or not, and so forth. |
Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 11:16am
Yeah, while were at it lets post the nation's nuclear launch codes and all of the passwords to military installations, or all security codes for all banks in the country... nothing should be classified huh? |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 12:03pm
Ugh I just had this exact same conversation with someone. Things like nuclear codes are entirely unrelated, and have nothing to do with what wikileaks does. |
Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 04 December 2010 at 9:06pm
How is it unrelated to wikileaks? I'm pretty sure wikileaks will post any classified info they can get. Maybe not nuclear codes, per say, but other classified information could be in jeopardy such as nuke locations, warship locations, or other sensitive data. |
Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 05 December 2010 at 12:31am
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How do we know that Wikileaks doesn't have strategic military information like that, and they don't post it? ------------- |
Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 05 December 2010 at 12:55am
I think this point is pretty interesting. Always remember your position in this episode. We don't know nearly enough to have an educated opinion. The only info I have on this is what I get from the media (trusted much?) They only know what the powers that be want them to know and we get told even less. (Citation is non existant) (bearing in mind I am very drunk and after repeated failed attempts to make myself a tinfoil hat I have decided to post anyway) ps. I don't know what I mean by "The powers that be" |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 05 December 2010 at 1:23am
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I wish you could up vote posts. ------------- |