Saw this coming.
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Topic: Saw this coming.
Posted By: __sneaky__
Subject: Saw this coming.
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 6:08am
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40544697/ns/us_news-wikileaks_in_security/ - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40544697/ns/us_news-wikileaks_in_security/
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 6:13am
| Beat me to it |
Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 11:59am
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Now, does anyone have any conspiracy theories over this? And does anyone think he's gonna still be able to drop the (Bank of America? I think that's who I heard it was) stuff still?
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 12:02pm
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^^I don't know..It appears to me to be an idle threat, a desperate attempt to keep himself protected.^^ We will just have to wait and see. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 3:36pm
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Wikileaks isn't stupid, they're taking the path of least resistance. If he goes into hiding it's easier to fuel the "oh he must have done it" speculations. I'm not saying he's guilty or innocent, not enough info to know yet, but his being arrested clearly isn't an accident.
I think Assange put it best himself, his role at wikileaks is a "lightening rod" |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 3:43pm
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I heard on the radio on the way home bail had already been denied as well.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 3:48pm
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He did the smart thing by turning himself in, it does make him look to be innocent by going voluntarily.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 4:04pm
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The Raw Story has http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/assange-rape-accuser-cia-ties/ - this up now, that says: 1) One of the women accusing him of rape was with an organization with ties to the CIA. 2) It is less rape rape he is being accused of, and more Kobe Bryant-like rape. As in, the sex was consensual, but he didn't wear a condom. Or something. Swedish law is kind of confusing.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 4:21pm
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^^oddly enough, I am now getting "Database Error" when I click on the link when I tried showing this to a friend.^^
------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 4:25pm
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Ceesman762 wrote:Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 4:26pm
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CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 4:28pm
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Bah humbug. Well, it got linked to Fark, so mayhap it got Farked. |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 4:30pm
Seems a little convenient. Though, I can pull up plenty of other sites reporting on the issue. Still trying to find one that gives a good explanation to post as a replacement.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 4:31pm
The CIA is watching Whale? Oh Crap. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 4:37pm
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 4:39pm
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I know that! Silly! I reported FE to them! They must have got the names mixed up or something.
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 4:41pm
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http://hubpages.com/hub/Wikileaks-Rape-Victim-Has-Ties-to-CIA-Julian-Assange-Arrest - http://hubpages.com/hub/Wikileaks-Rape-Victim-Has-Ties-to-CIA-Julian-Assange-Arrest
^Replacement link. It's the best one I could find. ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: NiQ-Toto
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 4:52pm
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A statement from Assange: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/wikileaks/dont-shoot-messenger-for-revealing-uncomfortable-truths/story-fn775xjq-1225967241332 - Don't shoot messenger for revealing uncomfortable truths. ------------- ///AMG What? |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 6:11pm
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Up till now I considered wikileaks to be a legitimate whistle-blowing organization with an axe to grind with the US. After http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101207/pl_afp/usdiplomacywikileaksinfrastructureunrestus_20101207185705 - this , I consider them to be in league with the terrorists. "This," for those who don't wish to read the link, being the potential list of targets they posted recently. (Basically, a list compiled by the government of things they really don't want terrorists to go after.) It's not information that in anyway embarrasses/discredits the government, it doesn't show government wrongdoing, it just gives potential terrorists a nice target list. Is there stuff on the list that they were probably already considering? Of course. However, I can't understand way anyone would want to confirm good targets for them (the terrorists) to hit. ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 6:20pm
| Hmm, that is questionable, but again I'm sticking to the "all or nothing" game. |
Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 6:34pm
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No, I agree that they crossed the line there and actually threatened the national security not only of the US, but also many of our allies.
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 6:37pm
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So Choppie, to play Devils Advocate, me posting your bank account information and other personal information is okay because thats journalism, right? ------------- 
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Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 6:48pm
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^ Actions/information of a private individual =/= actions/information of a government Now, I don't really see how that information can do any good by being made available to the public. That said; I will stick my neck out there and side with the "all or nothing" idea, to some degree. ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 8:23pm
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All or nothing was invented by those not intelligent enough to practice discernment. That applies in a far broader sense than just Assange.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 8:36pm
I must have missed something, where did they post Obama's bank account info? Oh they didn't and that comparison has nothing to do with anything? Sounds about right. |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 8:47pm
However, what I would and would not post is an opinion. I may have reasons to base those opinions on, but it is still an opinion. ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: God
Date Posted: 07 December 2010 at 11:28pm
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Except it isnt far off because the last I checked all meant all not all except personal information.
So publishing vulernabilities of privately owned companies to cause harm to the US is relevant to free speech. Just like your personal information, information created by government employees should be treated with the same amount of privacy. In this case it hasnt. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 08 December 2010 at 12:12am
| To what extent? If these cables revealed ridiculously sinister plots to deceive the public, would you still support them not being revealed? I'm too lazy to think of a better example |
Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 08 December 2010 at 1:08am
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Choop that's not really relevant.This guy has got his hands on a list of sites that are "vital to national security". I don't see the justification to release this under free speech or journalism. I know the ins and outs of Faslane naval base (It's where our nukes are) better than most civy's. I would not consider it justified to publish what I considered weak spot's or general info about how the base operates. I wouldn't even want to publish it's location even though it is well known. I see you agree that "all or nothing" needs to have a line drawn somewhere. In my opinion he's crossed it. |