98C VS. A-5
Printed From: Tippmann Paintball
Category: Paintball Equipment
Forum Name: Which Gun is Best
Forum Description: Need Advice? Ask the pros.
URL: http://www.tippmannsports.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=187419
Printed Date: 22 December 2024 at 9:13pm
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 12.04 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: 98C VS. A-5
Posted By: branmaaan12
Subject: 98C VS. A-5
Date Posted: 29 December 2010 at 4:16am
| me and my friends have been arguing over this topic for like a year now. which gun is best. |
Replies:
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 December 2010 at 8:49am
They're essentially the same gun, so it comes down to just a few things:
------------- 
|
Posted By: Armitage
Date Posted: 30 January 2011 at 5:35pm
|
A5:
ballbreaks, airleaks around the tombstone and a hundreds of more issues. do not buy it. its buggy as hell. also their flatlinebarrel. looks good - makes no sense and is annoying like the a5. got my a5 three weeks ago, leaks air, ballbreaks, waaaay too expensive for such a stressy gun. will sell it for 50% off to get it out of my sight after tippmann repaired that piece of crap. the only great thing about it is the 2 year warranty. you'll need it... very very often... |
Posted By: Armitage
Date Posted: 31 January 2011 at 1:16pm
|
hmmmm... seems as if i have been a little bit too fast talking like that. tippmann has offered some replacement near germany. so - let's see if the tippi works best as everybody says around here. will keep you informed. regards, andré |
Posted By: Maitz95
Date Posted: 22 February 2011 at 3:00pm
| I was going to buy the a5 because I heard it's much faster and better for indoor arenas and 98 is good for the woods only is this true or does the 98 do just fine indoors |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 24 February 2011 at 12:04pm
------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Maitz95 wrote:Posted By: Hilfirty
Date Posted: 25 February 2011 at 11:23pm
|
A5 all the way ------------- S.O.S. |
Posted By: nail4545
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 7:46pm
| A5 is the way to go, have not broke one ball with it, newer version a5 shoots very straight, just switched to hpa so hopefully well worth it, its not the gun its the player, took out 3 friends all with phenoms with faceshots, gave them a bad time all day.lol. |
Posted By: branmaaan12
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 3:23am
| hpa will not work as well for the A5 because its cyclone feed runs on CO2/ |
Posted By: nail4545
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 11:51am
| It might be hit orr miss, I have seen tons of people having no problem with hpa but have heard online that it could be harder for the cyclone feed system, if so they I will have to change some lines out. I went ahead and just purchased the New Designz TSO "Thread Saver" Inline On/Off ASA w/purge . |
Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 23 March 2011 at 7:41pm
|
I prefer the A5. Most of the people have said its buggy and things like that. The only problem ive had with it is that i broke an O-ring when i screwed my tank in. i just got a new O-ring for 25 cents and it stopped leaking. I even use CO2 which everyone says is bad. once again...no problems. The A5 is easy to take apart, shoots straight, and ive never had it chop a ball. Some people might say i have the worst setup...but thats simply not true. A5 4 life ------------- Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 10:52am
WHAT?! proof please. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 10:54am
|
Yah i dont think it matters what you use. the cyclone feed runs on whatever you put into the gun. ------------- Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself. |
Posted By: nail4545
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 12:30pm
|
I made the switch to hp and the gun shoots great, had to turn up the gun up a little due to it shooting slower but now its shooting more consistent. My friend had a older a5 and he just switched to hpa and he could not get the fpa over 200, so he installed a new spring kit and thing works great, . |
Posted By: branmaaan12
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 10:23pm
|
the cyclone for the old A5 is originally made for use with CO2. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 25 March 2011 at 10:18am
Proof please, "because I say so" is not a valid argument. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 25 March 2011 at 10:53am
Incorrect, the A5, like the 98 before it, are both designed to work on either CO2 or compressed air. (They use pretty much the same internals for the actual operating system.) However, the valves in both were designed to be CO2 friendly (read up on the CVX valve for this info) as that tended to be the propellant of choice for newer players. The early A5s did have issues running off of compressed air when accessories were added which required more pressure (such as the Flatline barrel) or increased rate of fire (such as the e-grip). These issues would manifest as either feeding problems (where the Cyclone failed to fully cycle, low shot velocity, or incomplete cycling of the bolt (as it didn't go back far enough to catch the sear) which resulted in chopping and was sometime blamed on the Cyclone. The upshot is that these were not the result of the Cyclone being designed for CO2 so much as design problems that were promptly fixed by Tippmann. With all this said, I do prefer to run my Tippmann's off of CO2. However, I also like to use response triggers set for high rates of fire and the higher pressures CO2 is generally delivered at in the summer just works better for my purposes. (On both 98s and A5s.) -------------
|
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 25 March 2011 at 11:39am
|
Mack, Ninja is currently making a regulator designed for use in Automags. It has a 1200psi output. Wonder how this would help the RT effect in a response trigger? ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 25 March 2011 at 12:24pm
|
I'll bet that would help immensely. (CO2 seems to normally run in the 1000-1300 psi output range up here during the summer. (Based on a few random tank checks with my pressure gauge.)
-------------
|
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 25 March 2011 at 1:10pm
|
They're pretty reasonably priced as well. Only thing is, if you want one, you actually have to call and speak with someone. They don't openly advertise them on their site. Best of both worlds, high output pressure and consistency of HPA. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: snakedoc24
Date Posted: 28 March 2011 at 2:49pm
| The 98c, in my opinion, is the AK-47 of the paintball world. Is inexpensive. Simple to use. You can drop it, kick it, put bad balls in it and it will still shoot. It may be heavy for a paintball gun, but you can abuse it and still use it. ( Not that im recomending that you intentionaly beat up you marker, the better you treat it the longer it will last and shoot better). Ive used mine in rain, snow, and hot humid summer days and it never failed me. |
Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 28 March 2011 at 6:19pm
|
What you just said is what ive been wanting to say for the longest time. But never had the chance to. ------------- Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 29 March 2011 at 10:23am
You can look through these thread and find nearly the same quote about AK's and 98's. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 29 March 2011 at 4:49pm
|
Yah well i wanted to say it on aa topic were im not already supporting the A5 ------------- Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself. |
Posted By: rose42
Date Posted: 30 March 2011 at 1:35pm
|
I agree, 98c pro has never ever failed me.. iv had it for 6 years, i bought it off a friend who never played back when i was younger. Now all my paintball buddys have a tippy, they saw me having no problems at all and got sick of dealing with their guns breaking. To me my gun only gets better as it gets older, customize it!
serial nuber on my gun is under 25,000 so im guessing its pretty old. |
Posted By: branmaaan12
Date Posted: 31 March 2011 at 2:07pm
| the 98 is like wine, it gets better with age. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 01 April 2011 at 10:18am
??? Do you mean can store it in a closet with out cleaning for a year and it will work? ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: branmaaan12
Date Posted: 01 April 2011 at 7:18pm
| why yes, yes i do. with one specific upgrade in general that will save you allot of cleaning, and that is the rocket cock 2. it covers the bolt so nothing gets in it. |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 02 April 2011 at 11:19am
|
^^^ Never had anything get in the gun through the cocking port. I like the rocket cock because I always forget and get my thumb in the way of the cocking handle.
-------------
|
Posted By: rose42
Date Posted: 04 April 2011 at 10:25am
| Neither have i, plus i usually take apart my gun to clean and oil it after i play. Also im a lefty so i havnt had that problem, my friend mentoned how it hits his thumb sometimes though. |
Posted By: branmaaan12
Date Posted: 04 April 2011 at 7:00pm
| same. my 98 is always running at top performance. after every paintball day, i go home and do 1-3 hours of maintinince on everything. |
Posted By: Yequan
Date Posted: 01 June 2011 at 10:09pm
|
New version of the A5's shooting is very simple, just switch to the
HPA, so I hope worth it, it is not a gun player and took out all 3 faceshots
become useful friends, give them the time difference the day....
|
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 02 June 2011 at 10:07am
LOL WAT?!  ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: Supermanglide
Date Posted: 13 August 2011 at 11:32pm
|
I was going to purchase the a5 as a final result of the fact I observed
it's a complete whole lot a lot quicker jointly with a complete whole
lot better for indoors arenas and 98 is great for that woods only is
this legitimate or does the 98 do just good indoors ------------- -deleted-spam- |