tippmann speedball gun
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Topic: tippmann speedball gun
Posted By: codfan8
Subject: tippmann speedball gun
Date Posted: 25 January 2011 at 5:17pm
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maybe tippmann should move on from woodsball guns and try making speedball guns but have
center feed
flex valve or spool valve like on x7 phenom
clamping feed neck
no safety full auto or safety three shot burst true full auto and true three shot burst
new type of board with adjustable burst fire rounds
double trigger
make it look cool
internal gasline
make it so theirs lots of upgrades (response,trigger,flatline,e-grip etc)
try make it look like the gryphon
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 09 February 2011 at 10:58am
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You'll never see Tippmann move away from the woodsball market. Why would they? They're the top company in the field. There are numerous companies out there vying for the top-dog position when it comes to speedball and such, but when you look at the woodsball world, who even comes CLOSE to matching what Tippmann's got? Kingman used to be close with their Spyder line, but that's sort of fizzled out. There are dozens of companies out three making and selling accessories for the entire line of Tippmann's woodsball markers. They're dabbling with getting onto the entry level speedball stuff, like with the Gryphon, but its not their market. Woodsball will ALWAYS be around, and as long as it is, you'll see Tippmann running the show. Why leave what you're best at? ------------- ? |
Posted By: Magoo
Date Posted: 09 February 2011 at 1:20pm
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I kinda want to build a speedball gun out of the Phenom, but I'm not willing to drop the money on one. Like the E-Mag, I believe a lightened, center-feed Phenom could do very well on the speedball field. But the problem is name. Like Reb said, Tippmann rules the woods. However, they're the laughing stock of the speedball field. They used to try with the E-Bolt 98C. |
Posted By: Uber J
Date Posted: 23 March 2011 at 10:45am
| i think a lot of people will be very surprised by Tippmann's direction this year! Consider that they have in a very short amount of time produced a working spool valve design in two platforms, phenom and tpx. they have also purchased NXe, who for the most part were speedball associated. and have hired or worked with several industry engineers from angel, automag and the like. the gryphon for what its worth was a "entry level" speedball gun; centerfeed, double trigger, locking feed neck, internal gas line. im not saying there will be a tournament level marker but you may see Tippmann crossover into speedball sooner than you think! |
Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 23 March 2011 at 4:04pm
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NXe was a softgoods manufacturer. ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site 
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Posted By: Uber J
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 8:28am
| Yes i understand NXe was a softgoods manufacturer, but what side of the paintball scene did NXe favor more? its almost inevitable for a company to branch out into new territory, Tippmann will always be associated with woodsball even if it tries the speedball scene, but that doesnt mean they should not try. as on e of the few paintball companies to be growing and earning they are in the best position to "experiment". all i can say is wait and see. i for one am very excited of whats to come. |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 9:30am
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I don't see it. In order to be competitive, there would have to be a total revamp rather than repackage of the existing 98 internals into yet another recast frame. Perhaps by using the Phenom valve, they have a base, but I just don't see them straying away from the clamshell design that has been integral to nearly every marker they have made since the introduction of the 98. Also, ironically the speedball oriented manufacturers seem to be moving more towards woodsball, i.e. Dyes new tactical line, Bob Long Mtac, etc. Seems counter to the industry movement. Also, it's a pretty big investment in an uncertain time. Everywhere it seems fields are closing down, companies are being bought, and people are leaving the hobby. Stranger things have happened, but unless you have a mole inside Tippmann with some differing info, I am very skeptical. Plus you have to overcome the stigma of the Tippmann name within the speedball crowd. If you want to hold up the Gryphon as an example of moving in this direction, they're going to have to do a lot better than that ugly turd of a marker. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 10:49am
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i agree. they already have manufactured the Gryphon which looks somewhat like a speedball gun but it could use some improvements. Center feed sounds good. should come standard with a double or blade trigger (same thing i know) for faster rate of fire. No point in the internal gas line it just takes up space for the internals. Popular with the other Tippmann markers there cant be a front grip. No speedball markers have frontgrips and the ones that do are just part of the gun. I would be very excited for a tippmann speedball gun but it would have to be inexpensive...kind of like a prototype and then the community could give them there feedback. If they did make a speedball gun i would hope that it looks like the Gryphon. It looks good but the rest is...not so good. ------------- Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself. |
Posted By: Uber J
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 11:03am
| I will tell you that i do work at Tippmann and have for the last 8+years, started on the assembly floor worked my way up to service and now to Quality engineer. And as someone who plays all styles of paintball rec, woods, scenario, tournament, and pump this is the first time i am excited about what we have planned. |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 11:11am
------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
tacogood wrote:Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 11:11am
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Im excited about a speedball gun but they have to keep making their current guns. Im gonna die if they stop selling 98C, A5, X7, X7 phenom, and TPX. ------------- Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 11:13am
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I doubt they will stop selling them. BTW, I never had a single issue using my A5 in speed ball.
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Posted By: Uber J
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 11:28am
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oldpbnoob- the name of the drill looking marker a few years back was the Triumph, and yes they were fugly. i also agree with you to some extent that most people, at least nowadays, dont consider the automags a speedball marker, however, at one time they were used by pro teams in tournaments. tacogood- Tippmann will never stop making and selling 98s, A5s, or any other woodsball markers. after all its their bread and butter. Ceesman762- much like you i always did well with an A5 in speedball even though i preferred a 98 with centerfeed and ebolt, as did Tippmann Effect (psp team in 05-06) however there is something to be desired about the weight and size of these markers, right? |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 11:45am
It will be interesting to see if Tippmann truly does attempt an entry into "speedball type" markers. However, I also believe that if it ends up being another rehashed 98 variant, it will never gain true acceptance into the genre. Designwise, it will also have to be considerably better looking than the Gryphon. I have felt since the release of the Phenom that there was potential with this platform, hopefully Tippmann goes big with it rather that churning out something mediocre. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 11:47am
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Weight has not been an issue to me with the A5. The original hopper was an issue for me, I dumped it an put on the X7 hopper for it's low profile.
------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 11:57am
------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 12:14pm
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I have tried an EGO and the Smart Parts Ion, I like them both after a full day at a local field, but I actually missed the weight of my A5. The others felt as if I treated them roughly that they would fall apart on me.
------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 12:26pm
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The ION probably would have.... Actually, my brother has one that he tinkers a lot with and at this point has it modded with an SP1 body, and BT Rip Clip set up that connects to a plate on the stock so that it sits actually directly behind the marker. He was beating on it pretty hard a few weekends ago and it seems to hold up. I didn't mind the weight that much either at one time. I think if you go back and look at some of my first posts a couple of years back, I used to defend the weight of A5's etc. My thinking has changed honestly, and I find myself gravitating towards lighter markers. However, I also pretty much only play big games/scenarios, so every time I play, I find myself walking A LOT. I'm not in the best of shape, and any weight reductions I can get is an advantage. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 5:32pm
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Yah i played along side a guy with an ION and wow that thing was just terrible. Its performance was great but he didnt use it once the entire day because he couldnt keep it working. ------------- Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself. |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 24 March 2011 at 8:47pm
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Ions were always a pain, but they came cheap and were easy to make your own. ------------- 
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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 25 March 2011 at 11:00am
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Yah i dont think ill be moving away from my A5 for while. I like it and it has always been good to me ------------- Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself. |
Posted By: Panda-Man
Date Posted: 04 April 2011 at 2:24am
hahaa... Tippamann speedball gun.. haha I remember making that mistake, Unless they make a marker with Eyes and centerfeed it would be a fail.. unless they incorporated something like a level 10.. Also using a A5 for speedball is kinda funny, nothing like taping a Nerf Football to the side of your marker to make you ultra low profile.. .
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 04 April 2011 at 7:54am
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No lower profile than having a nerf football taped to the top of your marker like with any electro. It was announced last week that Kee purchased the Intellectual Property of Smart Parts. This seems to be in keeping with what was posted earlier. Will be interesting to see what they make of it. Will it go in the direction of Tippmann making more speedball type markers or will they market under another name like Gryphon? ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Kjgocha
Date Posted: 22 August 2011 at 10:33pm
| I love my Phenom. It's a great marker, but I sure would love to see a great Tippmann speedball marker for those long scenario games where I'm tired as a dog from lugging my tactical marker around all day. |
Posted By: Uber J
Date Posted: 28 February 2012 at 8:12am
 Some of the features incorporated into the new Crossover marker include the following: •.68 caliber electro-pneumatic marker •New, lightweight compact design 2.5LBS •Integrated break beam anti-chop eyes •Ability to work in both electronic and mechanical modes •Low pressure operation under 300 PSI •Internal gasline •Magnetic hall effect trigger switch •Multiple adjustable firing modes, including semi-auto, auto-response, 3-shot burst, PSP, NPPL and Millennium •Tournament lock switch •Adjustable clamping feedneck with vertical feed •Machine-milled upper body •Bottom regulator with the ability to convert to a front regulator •Fully compatible with HPA and Nitrogen; for CO2, see owner's manual for details •Two year limited warranty •A-5/X7 thread |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 28 February 2012 at 8:17am
Cute. So how about them extended TPX mags? ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: Uber J
Date Posted: 28 February 2012 at 8:23am
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I hoped someone would catch that. by the way there is a video on this site to accompany the marker now. |
Posted By: blits98cp
Date Posted: 29 February 2012 at 12:32pm
| When does the new Tippmann line make it to stores? |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 29 February 2012 at 12:51pm
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I beleive everything I have seen says late Spring.. give or take. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 29 February 2012 at 1:03pm
| You milsim kids will be freaking out when they stuff this tech in a military body |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 29 February 2012 at 1:23pm
------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 29 February 2012 at 1:32pm
| The Phenom has break beam eyes and cross over? |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 29 February 2012 at 1:46pm
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It doesnt have eyes, but is capable of either electronic or manual function if thats what you mean by crossover. And the Phenom has a cyclone, so it doesnt need eyes. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 29 February 2012 at 2:30pm
| There's a reason that the heavy hitters that get paid to play paintball use this technology. Tippmann realizes this obviously. |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 29 February 2012 at 2:37pm
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I wouldnt be surprised to see someone modify a Phenom to be centerfed with eyes if the board on this thing is even remotely interchangeable. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Uber J
Date Posted: 01 March 2012 at 8:32am
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Sorry, the crossover and phenom boards are not interchangeable. The phenom board sits vertically in the frame like a shocker board but thicker while the crossover board is thin and lays flat like a matrix board. as of now there are no plans to add eyes to the phenom. However i believe some custom shops have made centerfeed phenoms already. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 01 March 2012 at 4:02pm
------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Uber J
Date Posted: 02 March 2012 at 7:15am
| As far as i have heard there is no current talk of extended mags for the TIPX. But we did just release the new Desert tan pistols, so at least there is still new items being worked on at the moment. |
Posted By: zzj
Date Posted: 03 November 2012 at 4:29am
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Posted By: TheHuskiePaintball
Date Posted: 01 June 2013 at 3:03pm
A good speedball version of the X7 Phenom is virtually impossible, I did it anyway. it is beautiful. Thumbs Up ------------- This is the HuskiePaintball signing off |