Dear Taxes...
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Topic: Dear Taxes...
Posted By: evillepaintball
Subject: Dear Taxes...
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 7:27am
WooHOO! It's like finding (interest free) money in a winter coat pocket. Not that I would have made a lot of interest on $100, but still.
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 11:16am
Add a couple of zeros.
------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 11:21am
I only got back about a third of what I did last year, even though I made a lot more this year, thanks to not going to school for a year >_<
But hey, nearly $1000 extra is never a bad thing.
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 11:23am
I do love having a non-taxable income ^_^
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 12:16pm
evillepaintball wrote:
I do love having a non-taxable income ^_^ |
SO you rob crack dealers too?
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 4:28pm
I got $700 dollars back. WOO
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 4:32pm
I think whenever I file my taxes, someone at the IRS laughs at me.
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 7:01pm
Il be getting $600 back =D
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 7:29pm
Whatever I am getting as a refund is going straight back out the door. It'll be as if it never even existed, and all I'll be doing is filling in some of the holes I've managed to dig in the last year. 
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Posted By: DaveEllis
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 8:20pm
Reb Cpl wrote:
Whatever I am getting as a refund is going straight back out the door. It'll be as if it never even existed, and all I'll be doing is filling in some of the holes I've managed to dig in the last year. 
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Is it fair to say "filling some holes" is what got you in debt to begin with? 
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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 8:53pm
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I get to do my taxes for the first time this year... exciting!
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 9:36pm
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Woo Hoo!!
<--- Small Business owner.
My return is never under 3k. I get to deduct so much.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 04 February 2011 at 11:37pm
Rofl_Mao wrote:
I get to do my taxes for the first time this year... exciting!
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Do you have a TFSA yet?
If not, friggin' get one.
If you don't know what it is, learn. And friggin' get one.
This will replace RRSPs for our generation.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 9:21am
Yes.
Although the subsequent tax deduction is helpful.
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 9:55am
brihard wrote:
Rofl_Mao wrote:
I get to do my taxes for the first time this year... exciting!
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Do you have a TFSA yet? If not, friggin' get one. If you don't know what it is, learn. And friggin' get one. This will replace RRSPs for our generation. |
^ crazy canadian talk?
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 10:12am
merc wrote:
brihard wrote:
Rofl_Mao wrote:
I get to do my taxes for the first time this year... exciting!
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Do you have a TFSA yet? If not, friggin' get one. If you don't know what it is, learn. And friggin' get one. This will replace RRSPs for our generation. |
^ crazy canadian talk? |
Those Canadians, they're crazy alright.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 12:19pm
merc wrote:
^ crazy canadian talk? |
Imagine this.
You turn 18. That day you become eligible to get a bank account, to which you can contribute up to $5000 per year (indexed to inflation), where any money made within that account is completely non-taxable. In that account you can hold stocks, bonds, mutual funds, GICs, etc.
As soon as the next tax year hits, you can contribute another 5000. And so on into eternity.
At any point you can withdraw any or all of what's in there, tax free, including earnings form interest or capital gains. You can replace all of that as soon as the next year hits. As long as you follow those rules you don't pay tax on any of it. Any money kept within the account can continute to work for you tax free.
That's a Tax Free Savings Account. I'm up to $15,000 in maximum contributions now, having gotten one when it first came out. I've actually only contributed $12,000 so far; I really must get around to topping up this year's contribution. The net of my investments within that account has made me $2800 which I'll never have to pay tax on, and which I can continue to hold, or to sell and reinvest within that acount, again tax free. And that $2800 is after I already had one investment absolutely tank on me before I bailed out and got into something significantly better.
There are some people who from the outset invested their first $5k, picked the right stock, had it climb meteorically to $50k, and sold. They now have $50,000 in non taxable investments, and it can continue climbing from there. With three years since inception, that's $15,000 in initial contributions that people have been able to make grow without being subject to interest or capital gains tax. In another 7 years I'll have a contribution room of somewhere in excess of $50,000 that I can invest and never pay taxes on, nor on anything those investments make for me.
This thing is an unbelievably powerful investment vehicle if you use it carefully. And it's Canadian. There's no reason any Canadian of our generation can't work our asses off, max out our contributions in this, and retire rather comfortably indeed.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 12:52pm
So essentially it's an IRA.
------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 1:04pm
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No it's not.
It could be most easily compared to a Roth IRA in that investments are post-tax and that distributions are tax free, however an IRA requires you tol hold it until I think 59 1/2 years of age.
We already have an account similar to a traditional IRA. This new one, the TFSA, has no age restriction. I can take my money out whenever I want, the only restriction being I must wait til the next calendar year to re-contribute it. I can invest my money and make considerable returns off it within this account and never pay tax on it, since the cash that went in was already taxed. And I on't have to wait til I'm too old to have fun or be awesome to use the money.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 1:09pm
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I'm looking at a $1,000 fine for not having had health insurance for a year. Yippie.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 1:30pm
rednekk98 wrote:
I'm looking at a $1,000 fine for not having had health insurance for a year. Yippie.
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The individual mandate was recently ruled unconstitutional in a couple of cases. I suspect the Supreme Court will uphold that. Hopefully you'll see your money back.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 1:39pm
brihard wrote:
rednekk98 wrote:
I'm looking at a $1,000 fine for not having had health insurance for a year. Yippie. |
The individual mandate was recently ruled unconstitutional in a couple of cases. I suspect the Supreme Court will uphold that. Hopefully you'll see your money back. |
I thought the fines weren't being levied until 2014, and not in full effect until 2016?
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 1:45pm
brihard wrote:
No it's not.
It could be most easily compared to a Roth IRA in that investments are post-tax and that distributions are tax free, however an IRA requires you tol hold it until I think 59 1/2 years of age.
We already have an account similar to a traditional IRA. This new one, the TFSA, has no age restriction. I can take my money out whenever I want, the only restriction being I must wait til the next calendar year to re-contribute it. I can invest my money and make considerable returns off it within this account and never pay tax on it, since the cash that went in was already taxed. And I on't have to wait til I'm too old to have fun or be awesome to use the money. | I thought you could take out principle in Roths without penalty. Either way, I guess they have to do something to make people want to live there. 
------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter.
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 2:13pm
stratoaxe wrote:
brihard wrote:
rednekk98 wrote:
I'm looking at a $1,000 fine for not having had health insurance for a year. Yippie. |
The individual mandate was recently ruled unconstitutional in a couple of cases. I suspect the Supreme Court will uphold that. Hopefully you'll see your money back. |
I thought the fines weren't being levied until 2014, and not in full effect until 2016? | This is Massachusetts. Theoretically I can stay on my parent's insurance until I'm 26, which would be great if my parents wanted to pay for my insurance or my father's insurance had kicked in when he started the new job. Failing that, I can get dirt-cheap insurance through school, but they would only let me join if I had been dropped from my previous insurance, or had signed up at the beginning of the year. Considering my income, a staggering 4-figures, I can get free insurance from the state. But since I'm in college I don't qualify. The fine was considerably cheaper than buying my own policy. I did get insurance through the school starting this August, but since I believe I was w/o insurance for more than 12 months I'm probably going to get fined. It's a good thing it's the state law I'm breaking by not buying a product I don't want and can't afford from a private corporation, the federal law would make me a felon.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 2:22pm
If you made so little I highly doubt you will get a fine.
I didn't need proof of insurance when I did my taxes. He asked for it then I forget why, but he said never mind I didn't need it.
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 2:47pm
rednekk98 wrote:
stratoaxe wrote:
brihard wrote:
rednekk98 wrote:
I'm looking at a $1,000 fine for not having had health insurance for a year. Yippie. |
The individual mandate was recently ruled unconstitutional in a couple of cases. I suspect the Supreme Court will uphold that. Hopefully you'll see your money back. |
I thought the fines weren't being levied until 2014, and not in full effect until 2016? | This is Massachusetts. Theoretically I can stay on my parent's insurance until I'm 26, which would be great if my parents wanted to pay for my insurance or my father's insurance had kicked in when he started the new job. Failing that, I can get dirt-cheap insurance through school, but they would only let me join if I had been dropped from my previous insurance, or had signed up at the beginning of the year. Considering my income, a staggering 4-figures, I can get free insurance from the state. But since I'm in college I don't qualify. The fine was considerably cheaper than buying my own policy. I did get insurance through the school starting this August, but since I believe I was w/o insurance for more than 12 months I'm probably going to get fined. It's a good thing it's the state law I'm breaking by not buying a product I don't want and can't afford from a private corporation, the federal law would make me a felon.
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Fortunately the federal law has an opt out for financial / religious purposes 
That sucks though. Thank god for Texas...I pretty much just have to breathe and pay taxes. Breathing being optional.
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 05 February 2011 at 3:13pm
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Good to know jmac, I didn't need proof of insurance last year but they want it this year for some reason. I still think I need to move to NH, so if I blow my fingers off with legal fireworks I can have the freedom to either pay out of pocket or try to sew them back on myself.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 11:07am
brihard wrote:
No it's not.It could be most easily compared to a Roth IRA in that investments are post-tax and that distributions are tax free, however an IRA requires you tol hold it until I think 59 1/2 years of age. |
No.
You can withdraw the contributions any time you want without penalty, can withdraw the earnings any time you want for qualified purchases without penalty, can withdraw earning anytime without penalty so long as you put it back in a specific time, or withdraw your earnings, pay the tax on JUST the earnings, and spend it on anything you want.
Or wait till you're an old fogey.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 11:15am
Linus wrote:
brihard wrote:
No it's not.It could be most easily compared to a Roth IRA in that investments are post-tax and that distributions are tax free, however an IRA requires you tol hold it until I think 59 1/2 years of age. |
No.
You can withdraw the contributions any time you want without penalty, can withdraw the earnings any time you want for qualified purchases without penalty, can withdraw earning anytime without penalty so long as you put it back in a specific time, or withdraw your earnings, pay the tax on JUST the earnings, and spend it on anything you want.
Or wait till you're an old fogey. |
So you still have to pay the tax on the earnings. In my case I don't. Even with a 50% tax preference on capital gains, that's still a tremendous potential tax savings over time.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 10:48pm
Except there aren't always taxes on the gains.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 06 February 2011 at 11:19pm
Linus wrote:
Except there aren't always taxes on the gains. |
I know.
Here in Canada, capital gains are taxed as income, except that they're only taxed at half the normal rate. Still, with a lucky stock that can be very considerable, since the gains themselves may push you into a much higher income bracket for that year.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 February 2011 at 10:23am
I understood about three things on this page.
Thus is the problem with having a stock broker / financial planner for a mother. My ears have learned to hear the things she talks about from work as white noise, just a fluttering "bzzz" sound, where I toss in some "Oh, is that right?" and "Mhmmm" for good will.
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Posted By: Dazed
Date Posted: 07 February 2011 at 1:25pm
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I got back way, WAY too much this year. My wife and I both file as single with no dependents. We've got to tweak that so we can get some of this back, and invested, during the year.
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 07 February 2011 at 1:55pm
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whale, i feel the same way, my dad's a finance guy and cpa.
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