Canada doesn't have this?!?!
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Topic: Canada doesn't have this?!?!
Posted By: Linus
Subject: Canada doesn't have this?!?!
Date Posted: 02 March 2011 at 9:29pm
It's a fantastic idea, and apparently you can be tossed in jail for saying things. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2007/01/23/qc-presseault.html - http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2007/01/23/qc-presseault.html ------------- 
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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 02 March 2011 at 10:01pm
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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 02 March 2011 at 10:12pm
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I'm just curious if the penalty doubles because he had to write the hate message in both english and french. ------------- http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/857/sig9ac6cs1mj.jpg - |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 02 March 2011 at 10:15pm
| Yeah, America is way more free. |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 March 2011 at 10:31pm
In the non-monetary way, yes... yes it is. -------------
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choopie911 wrote:Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 02 March 2011 at 10:49pm
| Yeah, 100% absolutely, America is the most free nation on the planet. Completely. |
Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 02 March 2011 at 11:41pm
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 02 March 2011 at 11:59pm
| Whether America is more free or not, it's unsettling to think about a judge having the ability to rule and sentence someone for being racist / promoting racism. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 03 March 2011 at 12:26am
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It's called a reasonable limitation on rights. America has them too. We just don't consider prosecuting racist hate speech as a slippery slope to OMGGOVERNMENTCONTROLOBAMAMUSLIMSTAKINOURGUNS
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 03 March 2011 at 12:36am
You feel comfortable being prosecuted for your opinion? This isn't a right or left issue, it's the idea that, no matter how evil the person, until they've actually committed an action that affected someone else they have their right to be as evil or ignorant as they want. Seems like a basic right? I'll refer you to the Fred Phelps thread. |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 03 March 2011 at 1:46am
 (I realize that this would be better placed in any FEaper thread, but meh) ------------- 
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 03 March 2011 at 9:12am
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We have two real criminal offences in this vein. Section 318 of the Criminal Code of Canada covers the offence of "advocating genocide", and the other one is S. 319, "public incitement of hatred". The offence is not having an opinion or expressing an opinion, it's actually promoting or inciting hatred- that is to say, actively trying to make others take on those views in such a way as to likely result in a breach of the peace. It's considered a legal defense if the subject matter can be shown to be true, or if the expression is part of religious belief. These convictions are extremely rare, and we've had some court decisions uphold the freedom of expression is some pretty bloody bad cases. Like any freedom it is not and cannot be absolute- but the couple of laws we have on the issue are seldom used and are reasonable. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: JohnnyHopper
Date Posted: 03 March 2011 at 9:26am
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At least this was allowed to go to http://www.canlii.org/en/sk/skca/doc/2006/2006skca41/2006skca41.pdf - appeal .
(It took a long time to find a non WND source for this and I did not even know it had been appealed before finding that.) ------------- My shoes of peace have steel toes. |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 03 March 2011 at 8:09pm
Actually, I think we have a fairly similar restriction, only it's kind of up to the SCOTUS at the time to determine whether it meets the requirements. Traditionally in the US convictions against speech like this are incredibly rare as well, and to be honest I'd almost guarantee that the Justices would shut down this conviction right off the bat.
And I agree those are reasonable restrictions, and just like in the US, this is probably an isolated case among many where rights are upheld. First Amendment rights are a constant battle here, and I'm sure they are there as well (I have zero experience with Canadian politics :P), so a case like this would likely garner alot of attention and outrage. Especially in the south
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 03 March 2011 at 8:27pm
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Meh. I wish we could put racists in jail for being racist.
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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 03 March 2011 at 9:36pm
I was contemplating posting that, but I decided a fresh one was in order. |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 04 March 2011 at 9:44am
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 04 March 2011 at 11:22am
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Stop the trolling...
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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 04 March 2011 at 2:11pm
Prisons have closed down? Where?
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 04 March 2011 at 2:48pm
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I think he meant privatized?
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