So uh...Japan...
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Topic: So uh...Japan...
Posted By: GroupB
Subject: So uh...Japan...
Date Posted: 11 March 2011 at 3:30am
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Holy crap.
http://cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2011/03/11/sot.tsunami.hit.japan.cnn ------------- 
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 11 March 2011 at 5:38am
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Just saw that from all my friends who live in japan. So far everyone I know is ok. Word is all cell coverage is down so they only can use landlines and internet phones. No idea how that works, but yeah. ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 11 March 2011 at 9:33am
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I forget how much larger they said that this quake was than the one that hit Haiti, but it was supposed to be one hell of a quake.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 11 March 2011 at 9:38am
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It looks pretty bad. Here is hoping that people were able to stay safe, and that recovery happens quickly. Also, I'll refrain at least a few weeks before making a Godzilla joke.
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Posted By: JohnnyHopper
Date Posted: 11 March 2011 at 9:45am
Honestly, could your lame stream media mothra bias be more obvious? ------------- My shoes of peace have steel toes. |
agentwhale007 wrote:Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 11 March 2011 at 9:55am
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One of my childhood friends just got back to his home in Yokosuka two days ago...
He said it wasn't a big deal there, course that is pretty far from the epicenter, and his building is built to withstand that type of thing.
Sendai is toast... according to him. ------------- They tremble at my name... 
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 11 March 2011 at 10:54am
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Probably God punishing them for not being Christians.
Heard on the radio this morning that Hawaii is bracing for a Tsunami as well now. Pretty nasty stuff. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 11 March 2011 at 11:43am
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Leaking Nuclear Reactor? It just gets worst. ------------- 
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 11 March 2011 at 2:58pm
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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 11 March 2011 at 6:08pm
| Cow and chicken?!?!?! |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 11 March 2011 at 8:59pm
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Apparently Hawaii got it fairly light. Some flooding on Maui and Oahu is all I heard, but nothing catastrophic. One of my good friends lives in Tokyo, I found out shes in California for the weekend. ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 12 March 2011 at 10:19am
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Yowch. Looks like a new Chernobyl in the works as well, minus the whole burning graphite thing. What did the Japanese do to piss off fate? ------------- 
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 12 March 2011 at 11:07am
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Tentacle rape? ------------- 
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 12 March 2011 at 5:06pm
History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man... ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 12 March 2011 at 11:20pm
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That's what they get for bombing Pearl Harbor amirite?
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 12:11am
Actually, it's a lot more like Three Mile Island than Chernobyl #4. We're talking core cooling failure (which is what happened at 3 Mile) combined with venting (also 3 Mile) with an intact containment vessel (again, 3 Mile) To get Chernobyl you have to have a steam explosion inside the core which destroys the biological containment vessel and sends fuel, moderator material, and all other manner of highly radioactive stuff all over the place. Without a positive void coefficient, a Chernobyl-style accident is far less likely. |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 7:32am
I don't want to be sent all over the place. But yeah, you're right. Except TMI never had the containment building blow off. -------------
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 10:25am
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"At some point in the process, the walls of the reactor vessel — 15 centimetres of stainless steel — would melt into a lava-like pile, slump into any remaining water on the floor, and potentially cause an explosion much bigger than the one caused by the hydrogen. Such an explosion would enhance the spread of radioactive contaminants.
If the reactor core became exposed to the external environment, officials would likely began pouring cement and sand over the entire facility, as was done at the 1986 Chornobyl nuclear accident in the Ukraine, Peter Bradford, a former commissioner of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, said in a briefing for reporters. At that point, Bradford added, "many first responders would die." God damn... ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 10:44am
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I don't foresee this helping the argument for more nuclear plants here in the U.S. Coal and oil futures anyone? ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 11:36am
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You know, I really hate that media reports are messing up two very important things with this.
1) http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2011/03/12/japans-radiation-exposure-how-serious-is-it/ - As experienced with TIME
No, no they aren't. They haven't been for nearly two decades. Radiation levels are measured as Becquerels, Grays, and Sieverts. Even then, REMs are only for whole body irradiation. When dealing with products like Sr-90, Cs-137 , and especially I-131, you have to go with the absorbed dose for the affected biological region (in the case of I-131, that's the thyroid). This lack of explanation, or even an attempt at making things "easier" to digest is what leads to so much misinformation concerning all things nuclear. 2) Post some goddamned figures! Sure, radiation that is higher than background levels has been detected, but what kind of readings are we talking about here. How many becquerels, grays, or sieverts? Now, having actually found the numbers on my own. 1,015 mSv/hr is what the highest level of radiation detected outside of the plant. That's about what the average person would take on in a year of limited exposure (we're not even talking about health care workers, frequent flyers, etc) that's 0.001015 Sv. Now, at 1.0 Sv, you don't even have any major issues. A little fatigue, and lowered white blood cell production for a short time. So, in short, there would have to be a thousand-fold increase in the amount of radiation released from the Fukushima plant to even come close to causing some sort of worry. It's Three Mile Island all over again. Unfounded worries due to lack of understanding. |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 11:45am
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Tallen, that assumes that the situation does not get worse and it's doesn't go into full meltdown. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 11:57am
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Bri, radiation levels have dropped. Furthermore, even with the ECCS offline, they're pumping seawater and boric acid into the core. Boron "kills" fission faster than anything. It's like a neutron super magnet. Full meltdown is a long shot at this point. You'd have had to have a lot of control rods missing from the core to reach full meltdown.
Why no one SCRAM'ed the reactor is beyond me though. EDIT: Apparently they did successfully SCRAM all of the reactors. This is a FANTASTIC thing as it means that moderation is being achieved by control rods which is slowing the fission reaction and giving them slightly more time to bring more water into the system to remove the physical heat. |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 12:10pm
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Hopefully you're right. Given that the situation is still continuing to develop, I'm not going to make assumptions either way... ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 12:44pm
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Surprised no one has mentioned this, but there's a second reactor experiencing problems too. Also, on CNN yesterday, I read about one of the smaller cities with a population of 14,000 was reporting that 9000 were missing. Surprised the death toll hasn't risen as fast as originally expected. And, I have a question. I heard on the news yesterday that financially, Japan is probably one of the best prepared countries in the world to deal with such a horrible disaster, because their government has a large amount of money in reserve for just such an occasion, and yet they are asking for aid from us? Maybe I misunderstood either part of that statement, but we certainly don't have the financial capabilities to help them right now. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 12:47pm
Yet we will... |
Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 12:54pm
I believe we have monies budgeted precisely for this kind of thing.
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 2:03pm
This is correct. Edit: Also, I love the doom and gloom misinformation that is being spread everywhere. People continually like to compare what is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_of_coolant - LOCA to something orders of magnitude greater. The IAEA has already determined that at worst, the Fukushima accident is a level 4 on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Nuclear_Event_Scale - INES Three Mile Island even scored higher than that. |
Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 2:44pm
We? -------------
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 2:53pm
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Why don't we cut out the middle man and just have China give them the money? ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 2:57pm
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Or, perhaps by aid they are talking about food, equipment, medicine, people, etc. After all, simply throwing cash at debris doesn't make it disappear. -------------
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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 3:34pm
Oh thats right! Hehehe, I mean You. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 3:40pm
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Update from Tokyo Power:
Unit 1(Shut down) - Reactor has been shut down. However, the unit is under inspection due to the explosive sound and white smoke that was confirmed after the big quake occurred at 3:36PM. - We have been injecting sea water and boric acid which absorbs neutron into the reactor pressure vessel. Unit 2(Shut down) - Reactor has been shut down and Reactor Core Isolation Cooling System has been injecting water to the reactor. Current reactor water level is lower than normal level, but the water level is steady. After fully securing safety, measures to lowering the pressure of reactor containment vessel has been taken, under the instruction of the national government. Unit 3(Shut down) - Reactor has been shut down. However, as High Pressure Core Injection System has been automatically shut down and water injection to the reactor was interrupted, following the instruction by the government and with fully securing safety, steps to lowering the pressure of reactor containment vessel has been taken. Spraying in order to lower pressure level within the reactor containment vessel has been cancelled. - After that, safety relief valve has been opened manually, lowering the pressure level of the reactor, which was immediately followed by injection of boric acid water which absorbs neutron, into the reactor pressure vessel. |
Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 3:40pm
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It's ok, if I were Canadian I'd want to pretend too. -------------
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 4:04pm
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 4:19pm
Uhhh, they have: http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2011/03/11/china-offers-japan-support-for-quake-relief/ - http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2011/03/11/china-offers-japan-support-for-quake-relief/ |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 5:23pm
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 6:18pm
Not only that, I got a kick out of how jumbled the information was when they reported on it for the first day or so. Some news channels should have hired people like us to proof reports before they went out. I watched Hannity claim pressure levels were over 1000x greater than normal when the stat was actually about radiation levels around the reactor and even that was wrong when he was corrected ten minutes later. News networks should make a note of the info they can cite credibly then expand on it later when more information is available. And only bring the nuclear experts on once you have something of substance to explain, instead of them coming on air and speculating wildly. It helps if they're actually nuclear experts to begin with. Lastly, all the great engrish from this is wasted thanks to the loss of life and severity of devastation.  -------------
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 11:07pm
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aaaand a volcano just erupted in Japan...
http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/article965229.ece/Japanese-volcano-erupts - http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/article965229.ece/Japanese-volcano-erupts
I've read they have 6 reactors with major issues.
Another hydrogen explosion at reactor 3.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-14/hydrogen-explosion-occurs-at-nuclear-power-plant-135-miles-north-of-tokyo.html - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-14/hydrogen-explosion-occurs-at-nuclear-power-plant-135-miles-north-of-tokyo.html
Drudge has good coverage of all this stuff.
Tomorrow would be a good day to short the stock market... ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 11:37pm
Gotta love American news, they never tell you when there are other countries helping in a major disaster, they only focus on the states so it makes it look like the USA is the only one helping. This happened in the Haiti quake, someone I know said "herp America is the only one helping in this earthquake derrp" I had to correct them saying that many other countries were helping, like Canada, Germany, China, France, Norway, ect.. |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 13 March 2011 at 11:41pm
That assumes that what you're hoping to short doesn't simply gap down on open, and that the economic impacts of this are both long term and are predictable. I doubt either is the case. It'll be a rough few days, for sure, but I don't think it will be a predictable one. Remember, the market spent all last week plunging, AND it had most of a day to respond to the quake. Given that it was mostly oversold by close Friday, I suspect that at worst it could be said that the current situation is mostly priced in. I expect we simply won't see the pop upwards I've been expecting on Monday quite so much. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 12:42am
| Yeah, reactor 3 explosion was pretty much imminent. They had to vent it just like reactor 1, but given the 48hr time lapse between SCRAM and now, an actual meltdown is of minimal possibility as the decay heat is significantly less. |
Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 12:47am
| It's almost like someone's messing around with the disaster menu on SimCity. |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 12:49am
WIN. |
Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 12:59am
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Next one's gonna be an alien invasion. I'm calling it now. |
Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 1:33am
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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 3:06am
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 7:45am
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Have you guys seen this footage?... Crazy. http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=1605260179420&comments - http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=1605260179420&comments
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 8:03am
Will be interesting to hear how the country will cope with the loss of so many power plants. It's not like you can build another nuclear plant in a matter of a couple of months. Wonder how long it will take to rebuild the grid and restore power, and how many people will be affected? There has to be a contingency plan, but how difficult will it be to rebuild if you have no, or little access to power? ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 8:53am
It's amazing how quickly the water rises. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 9:53am
My guess is recommissioning older coal and oil fired plants. Also, you've got to remember that a lot of power drain is no longer there since it's been washed away/destroyed. |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 9:54am
Watch Japan jump onto the Thorium bandwagon for new reactors... ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 9:56am
------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 8:28pm
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There's been a third explosion. The outer shell of #2 is gone- basically the same progression as 1 and 3. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 10:11pm
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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 10:21pm
Those sirens are pretty creepy. I'd be pissing myself if I saw a wall of water like that coming up my street. Also, in regards to the third explosion, Japan has agreed to accept help from the IAEA. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 14 March 2011 at 10:36pm
Yeah, the nuclear nerd community has pretty much been expecting that all the reactors at Fukujima will probably go down the same way. The disadvantage to using sea-water is that the hydrogen buildup would be bad. But hey! Now the public has a front-row seat as to how easy it is to turn sea-water into hydrogen! |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 12:28am
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Question for the facebook users here. At work today a friend linked me to an image of a bunch of facebook posts shooped together. I can't link it due to language but the content was showing a bunch of morons claiming this disaster was payback for Pearl Harbor. How many of those were legit retards posting? Are there many serious posts on FB saying the same thing?
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 1:30am
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I've yet to see one, but I'm in Canada
*edit* Holy crap http://www.news.com.au/world/japan-earthquake-and-tsunami-is-a-disaster-captured-on-film-like-no-other/story-e6frfl00-1226021785746 - Got them here |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 4:31pm
I raged so hard at that picture. I didn't see anyone of my friends on facebook post that crap though. ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 5:06pm
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All three reactors are under control, so there doesn't appear to be any threat of the situation getting worse. Not they need to contain what's already happened. Also, if you have any money laying around- URANIUM STOCKS! ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 5:28pm
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Did they get the cooling pool for spent fuel under control?
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Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 5:31pm
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Was the flux capacitor damaged? -------------
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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 5:35pm
| Sucks, I was kinda looking forward to a meltdown. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 5:41pm
Will it blend? And Rofl, I'm sure you can hit them up for some spent fuel rods if you really wish to experience accute radiation sickness. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 15 March 2011 at 9:00pm
Yes, but now that it's hot, it's important to cool the pool back down. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 12:30am
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Update:
http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/tsunamiupdate01.html - http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/tsunamiupdate01.html If you're sick of BS "updates" from anchors who don't know the difference between micro and milli when it comes to measurements, I suggest you click the above link. Also, as of now, no fires, 4's core is empty, 5 is stable and offline, 6 is stable and offline, pumps are working to keep 5 & 6 good. Seawater is being pumped at 1,2, and 3. 2's primary containment vessel may have been ruptured, but no one is sure yet as radiation levels have been fluctuating due to the fire at the storage pond for #4. From what I've read via the IAEA, the high radiation readings have all been short lived and localized which means they are most likely from vented xenon gas and other steam byproducts which are incredibly short lived and pose little threat to biological health. If, and that is a BIG if, the primary containment vessel has been ruptured at #2, the biggest risk right now is radionuclides being leeched from the reactor by water and then that water escaping into the environment. With luck, if there is a breach, it is higher up in the containment vessel and thus, will be mitigated by the fact that there isn't a fire inside the core, and that incoming coolant will prevent the escape of longer lived radionuclides into the atmospher. |
Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 1:05am
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 7:23am
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That's a lot of cores... ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 3:33pm
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6 CORES ------------- |
Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 5:26pm
| they also just sent 50 people into the plant to hose it down with sea water...i do not envy their jobs...whether they volunteered or not. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 9:33pm
Trust me when I say that they are in a much better situation than the first responders and early liquidators at Chernobyl #4. Personally, if I was there, I'd volunteer. The importance of keeping those reactors from going critical far outweighs the relatively low risk of me getting a lethal dose. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 March 2011 at 9:55pm
While I appreciate your level headedness in this situation Tallen, I think you're still a bit on the rosy side of things: "Gregory Jaczko, head of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, said: We believe that around the reactor site there are high levels of radiation. It would be very difficult for emergency workers to get near the reactors. The doses they could experience would potentially be lethal doses in a very short period of time." http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/asia/disaster-japan-march-17-live-blog - Source |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 17 March 2011 at 9:50am
That's the thing though Choop, the head of the NRC isn't there, doesn't have the info that the IAEA does, and yet, he's trying to grab a bit of the spotlight. If you check the IAEA postings on their site, the only guys who are under any sort of observation for radiation sickness are the fire fighters and one guy who was more than a little too close to the venting who got a high dose. Most of the fluctuations we're seeing are due to short-lived isotopes that, if you get a couple of good lungs full right from the source, can cause some damage, but generally speaking, pose little biological risk once they dilute due to their extremely (we're talking seconds and minutes) short half-lives. I don't know why Mr. Jaczko said what he did, but he's pissed a lot of people off. Unfortunately, American nuclear engineers have a bad reputation for making wild claims without any hard fact when it comes to nuclear accidents. For instance, people within the NIH and NRC made claims during the Chernobyl accident that, "Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have been hospitalized with acute radiation poisoning with several thousand more dead" when in fact, the number of people that wound up being hospitalized with even mild radiation sickness was under 200 and the total death toll was ~30 once all was said and done. I know I'm not on the ground over there either. But I believe that now, as with Chernobyl and TMI, the IAEA has the best handle on what it actually going on. Edit: BTW, your source certainly has its flaws:
Plutonium is worthless as a fuel for anything other than small thermal reactors (i.e. the Cassini probe) or nuclear weapons. I know it's probably seen as semantics, but when dealing with an issue as easily bungled as nuclear power, I like to get my info from people who don't make such mistakes. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 17 March 2011 at 10:31am
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Reactor 3 does contain plutonium in its fuel, however not at any percentage that makes the article's mention correct. Tallen, opinion on how the wiki has progressed? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_I_nuclear_accidents - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_I_nuclear_accidents And chewp,
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 17 March 2011 at 3:33pm
| Wow, good to know, thank you both |
Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 17 March 2011 at 3:54pm
I hope the radiation makes it to the west coast. Need a reason to loot my new tv. 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 17 March 2011 at 9:29pm
Personally, I think it's way too cluttered right now and full of non-essential gobbledygook. This, of course, will be weeded out over the months. And yes, Reactor #3 is a MOX fuel reactor, but as you said, the 7%Pu isn't enough to call it a Pu reactor like AJ did. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 17 March 2011 at 10:29pm
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Update:
Power cable has been laid to the reactor site. Technicians will shortly begin patching #2's cooling pumps into the grid, followed by the other reactors. IAEA states that all reactors are relatively stable at this time. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 18 March 2011 at 9:22am
And finally:
As I said in the beginning. TMI all over again. Just with more reactors involved. |