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Topic: X7 Phenom
Posted By: gunsn88
Subject: X7 Phenom
Date Posted: 05 April 2011 at 12:05pm
hey its been a while since ive been on this site, i just got a tippman x7 phenom and im goig to ge 2 48 3000 psi hpa tanks for it instead of spending a mad amount of money on a bigger tank, is this a good choice or will  pay for it in the end, i alos have 2 20 oz co2 tanks as my back up.

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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 05 April 2011 at 5:34pm
I wouldn't bother with the 48/3k tanks honestly.  you'll be lucky to get 500 shots off of one, and you're not going to want to carry multiple tanks around and switch em out in the middle of a game.  You're gonna spend what... $70-80 on two of those tanks, I would save the little extra cash and get at least a 68/4500.  


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 05 April 2011 at 8:05pm
^^^ Maybe he doesn't need more than 500 shots/game.  I usually only carry about 300 extra rounds and about half the time I never even break into it.

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Posted By: gunsn88
Date Posted: 05 April 2011 at 8:30pm
i get a 2000 box of balls but i only go threw about one bag of them a game and i still manage to hit anouph targets. im not a guns blazing guy i just stalk everyone and sneal atack, call it what you will lol and thanks for the help. i carry a pack with me anyway with 2 20 oz co2 and if i do this ill have 2 hpa, so ill be more then ready to run out of hpa.

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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 05 April 2011 at 9:44pm
Just use a 20oz CO2 tank...Yes! i said CO2! i have one made by Extreme Rage.  I can get waaaay more than 500 shots off. i don necessarily fire 500 shots in one game but my tank gets the job done.  What you said above kind of made it sound like you would be carrying 4 tanks...unless your going to a seriously large scenario game that is incredibly unecessary.

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Posted By: gunsn88
Date Posted: 05 April 2011 at 10:24pm
i was planing on not carying them sorry i wrote it out different then i thought. i ment id keep 3 in the car and just take one out, you never knwo wholl need another tank anyway, to many time dicks said they filled my friends co2 tanks and they were completely empty,thats why i go to aa local paintball store to fill up. but does co2 work good in an x7 phenom?

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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 06 April 2011 at 10:55am
If its not the new electric X7 phenom then it should work fine.  Ive heard plenty of bad things about CO2 but i have a tippmann a5 and it works fine.  So yes as long as its not electric it should work fine.  X7 is a pretty good marker and like all the other tippmanns it is almost impossible to break.

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


Posted By: gunsn88
Date Posted: 06 April 2011 at 12:56pm
mines an electrical e grip, its not the mechanical version, they were 1 time used on e bay for 300$ from a paintball store who rents them out, i got a good deal.

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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 06 April 2011 at 4:39pm
hmm...yah i wouldnt get the CO2 then because the CO2 or water or some liquid condenses on the gun and makes it verrrrrry wet.  unless you like the possibility of electricution get HPA

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 06 April 2011 at 5:04pm
Originally posted by tacogood tacogood wrote:

If its not the new electric X7 phenom then it should work fine.  Ive heard plenty of bad things about CO2 but i have a tippmann a5 and it works fine.  So yes as long as its not electric it should work fine.  X7 is a pretty good marker and like all the other tippmanns it is almost impossible to break.


The flex valve in the Phenom is designed to work on either compressed air or CO2 without problems.  This valve is used in both versions so mechanical or electrical doesn't matter.  (The problem with using CO2 in most electropneumatic markers is not the electronics so much as the potential for CO2 icing in small hoses and causing damage/blockages.)


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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 06 April 2011 at 5:44pm
That too...

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


Posted By: gunsn88
Date Posted: 06 April 2011 at 7:08pm
ill just get the 2 hpa air tanks then, the guns supose to be very good on air anyway right? and i use a remote line once in a while but i often go to dive and the thing kills your back,pluss its not confertable. so a smaller tank on the gun would be good to.

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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 07 April 2011 at 7:55am
The X7 can run on CO2 or HPA without problems.  What size tank is really up to you.

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


Posted By: gunsn88
Date Posted: 07 April 2011 at 10:47am
thanks for all your help guys. i have one more question, ive been looking into a  barrel kit for my x7 but cant find any that work on it, i herd a barrel kit helps the acuracy of the paintballs.would anyone be able to help me with this?

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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 07 April 2011 at 4:24pm
Apex barrel. which is similiar to a flatline but it can be adjusted for distance and accuracy and is less picky about paint.  I dont really know any other barrels.  Cant help yah with that.

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


Posted By: Mr.Sam98C
Date Posted: 07 April 2011 at 8:27pm
The J&J or Lapco Bigshot barrels are good ones that one break the bank. They run around $30 usually and work wonderfully.

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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 07 April 2011 at 8:47pm
yes those are probably the best straight up barrels there are.  BTW the apex is like 35 dollars. but you need an adpater.  You can find one on ebay for that price. If you plan on getting it look for a guy named FamousGuy. He'll ship it to you for free

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


Posted By: gunsn88
Date Posted: 07 April 2011 at 8:59pm
hes the guy  i got my phenom from lol

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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 07 April 2011 at 9:40pm
yah i actually have the A5/ X7 apex barrel tip bookmarked on my computer right now...lol

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


Posted By: gunsn88
Date Posted: 07 April 2011 at 10:31pm

i have a big game 10 vs 10 in a month and everyone has a semi auto, so i hope this gives me an advantage having the phenom electrical. and i have the 2 hpa tanks book marked from him



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Posted By: David12
Date Posted: 09 April 2011 at 8:44am
I use a remote line for some time, but I often go diving and what to kill you back.Ive hear about carbon dioxide emissions, but I have a lot of bad things tippmann A5 and it works fine. So yeah, as long as it is not electric it should work. X7 is a good mark, like all other tippmanns is almost impossible to break.

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Posted By: gunsn88
Date Posted: 10 April 2011 at 8:20pm
i just got my gun and im using c02 on my phenom, for some reason on full auto it only shoots 3 balsd the cyclon feedstopes workg, eenon semi auto, i dont know if ts has ahing to do with not having anouph air iny tank or not, id  lik to find out im getting a full tank soon,but id like som advice, thanks

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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 10 April 2011 at 8:43pm
uumm...can you retype that i found it hard to read with all your spelling mistakes.  From what i could undertand it only shot about three balls the stopped. Im pretty sure this points to a circuit board problem. 

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


Posted By: gunsn88
Date Posted: 10 April 2011 at 9:25pm
sorry bout the spelling my glasses broke earlear so im trying my best lol um idk if its a sercit board though,everything seemed right untill i got low on air, im hoping its just n air problem,

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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 10 April 2011 at 9:33pm
Yah it is probably because your low.  you said you have the cyclone feed? welll when you get low on air it will often stop feeding balls.  But only if it is VEEEEEERRRRRRYYYY low on air. like your 4 trigger pulls away from your gun going nuts like the way a tippmann does when it runs out of air. that sort of full auto explosion.

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


Posted By: gunsn88
Date Posted: 10 April 2011 at 9:46pm
my gun didnt even do that though, the 1 tank got empty and it didnt make any sound it stoped feeding thats it, it was different then my other guns

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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 11 April 2011 at 4:28pm
hhhmmmm...could it be that someone where in your gun there is a blockage.

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


Posted By: gunsn88
Date Posted: 12 April 2011 at 7:06am
i never messed with a gun like this, how to i check and if it is blaocked ow to i fix it? also can i use normal paintball oil on it?

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Posted By: gunsn88
Date Posted: 12 April 2011 at 7:46am
okay i took it apart and fund the isue, whoever greased the gun put so much greast on the line going to the cyclone feed it blocked the tiny whole in it, so i took all the grease off and used the grease it gave me but not to much and oiled the bolt, thanks for all your helo.

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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 12 April 2011 at 4:39pm
I would personally suggest you stop using grease. use oil. it wont clog your gun up and is less messy.

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 13 April 2011 at 1:06am
Originally posted by tacogood tacogood wrote:

I would personally suggest you stop using grease. use oil. it wont clog your gun up and is less messy.


Originally posted by X7 Manual - pg 15 X7 Manual - pg 15 wrote:

Every 8,000 to 10,000 shots, use Tippmann grease to lubricate specific areas (marked with a G in the Parts Diagrams) as instructed in the X7 Phenom Disassembly Instructions.


You really should refrain from giving advice until you become more familiar with the sport/equipment involved in the sport.

The X7 has a different operating system from most other Tippmanns and as such, Tippmann recommends different lubrication.


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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 13 April 2011 at 7:54am
Nobody has to take my advice yah know...

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


Posted By: gunsn88
Date Posted: 13 April 2011 at 9:45am
i thank you both for the help, and i used the grease on the o ring parts and were it was placed before, but it didnt seem like there was lub on the bolt, so i used normal paintball oil on the bolt

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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 13 April 2011 at 10:53am
Originally posted by tacogood tacogood wrote:

Nobody has to take my advice yah know...


No, they don't.  However, someone who is new may make the mistake of thinking you know what you are talking about, follow your advice, and mess up their equipment or make an ill-advise purchase.  With this in mind I could correct any misconceptions you spread but it would be simpler if you would limit your advice to matters you actually know about.


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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 13 April 2011 at 10:54am
Mistakes are what makes the world go round mack.  How do you think you learned so much?

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 13 April 2011 at 11:07am
Very true . . . but I tend to wait until I have learned about something before offering others advice on it.

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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 13 April 2011 at 11:09am
And how did you learn so much? im sure you have made mistakes while messing with markers and equipment.

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


Posted By: gunsn88
Date Posted: 13 April 2011 at 11:32am
i broke my project salvo thinking i could out a mettle cylinder housing on it from rap4, it didnt work to well and i broke the internals, and my carver one had bad leakes when i tried changing the air line, so i sold um both for the phenom, i dont take anything apart till i read the manual and look up every posible thing i can get online and ask mad questions so i dont screw up again, this sports to expensive for stupiud mistakes,

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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 13 April 2011 at 11:57am
Originally posted by tacogood tacogood wrote:

And how did you learn so much? im sure you have made mistakes while messing with markers and equipment.


I learned through experience, research and listening to others*.  I have made plenty of mistakes while working on my paintball equipment.  The difference is that I don't go on internet forums, pretend to know more than I actually do and give bad advice to others that causes them to make mistakes. 

There is a difference between learning from your own mistakes and giving bad advice (whether through malice or ignorance) to others that causes them to run into difficulty.

*I found it annoying when the "others" in question didn't actually know what they were talking about but pretended they did as this tends to lead to those listening making mistakes that could otherwise have been avoided.


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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 13 April 2011 at 4:30pm
i dont like you Mack...you make me angry

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 13 April 2011 at 5:05pm
Originally posted by tacogood tacogood wrote:

i dont like you Mack...you make me angry


You'll probably get over it.

But if you don't, that's okay . . .

. . . I won't care either way.


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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 13 April 2011 at 5:14pm
whatever...im better now anyway. i had alot of school work so i was pissed.

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.


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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 15 April 2011 at 2:15am
^^^ No, we can't be friends. 

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Posted By: gunsn88
Date Posted: 17 April 2011 at 7:35pm
okay so ive come to the conclusion it wasnt a blockage, i think my gun dosnt acept co2, it does 3 shots then freezes up, the cyclone feed just freezes up, so im gona get an hpa tank n se what happens.

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Posted By: sperry
Date Posted: 19 April 2011 at 5:27pm
about the barell, i would get a flatline barell for the x7. i think it is available for the x7 i am not sure though. either that or a straitline.

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Posted By: tacogood
Date Posted: 19 April 2011 at 6:29pm
x7 does have a flatline barrel. i think it looks pretty ugly though.

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Its not that i think stuipidity should be punishable by death, i just think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem handle itself.



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