Weiner on a grill... Hot dog. lol
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Topic: Weiner on a grill... Hot dog. lol
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Subject: Weiner on a grill... Hot dog. lol
Date Posted: 01 June 2011 at 8:27am
http://cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2011/05/31/sot.bash.weiner.twitter.cnn - http://cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2011/05/31/sot.bash.weiner.twitter.cnn
oh the irony.
Best pun wins!
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 01 June 2011 at 9:24am
Daily Show covered this very well last night.
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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 01 June 2011 at 2:33pm
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 02 June 2011 at 10:20am
Too easy--I'll leave the puns to others.
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 02 June 2011 at 1:11pm
Oh the iron knee.
No seriously, this is amazing on several levels, not the least of which being I'm not his biggest fan.
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 02 June 2011 at 2:16pm
Looks like he's gonna be in some hot water.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 02 June 2011 at 2:30pm
Well, his story seems kosher but they will continue to grill his buns.
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 02 June 2011 at 2:35pm
They were going after him like he was a Republican. You don't see that everyday...
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 June 2011 at 3:23pm
Bill Clinton was in charge of weiners wedding vows...
You seriously can't make stuff like that up. I wonder if someone will look at the people he followed on his twitter page so he could send them private weiner pics?...
This story has legs.
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 02 June 2011 at 9:41pm
If he loses his political office, maybe he can be like Chris Spitzer and get a TV career. Maybe he could host The Dong Show
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 03 June 2011 at 9:47am
Trying to figure out in what world does some guy live in where he thinks sending a woman a picture of his junk is going to win her over?
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 03 June 2011 at 10:25am
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-june-2-2011/the-big-wang-theory - http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-june-2-2011/the-big-wang-theory
Great coverage all week but this bit last night made me lose it.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 03 June 2011 at 10:26am
yeah, I saw that already... Very funny.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 06 June 2011 at 8:28am
well, well, well...
Another woman came forward with their "private tweets"...
Gotta hate it when a "hacker" posts pics like this huh? Lol.
Best part is the way many in the media are trying to spin this as "nothing to see" just move along and ignore the freakshow.
http://www.breitbart.tv/nprs-totenberg-on-weinergate-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/ - http://www.breitbart.tv/nprs-totenberg-on-weinergate-move-along-nothing-to-see-here/
Even while the proof that he is a typical liberal is just stacking up against him...
As usual you have to go to Dailymail UK to find a news organization that dug into the story...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394588/More-evidence-Weiner-sent-infamous-Tweet-unearthed-TweetDeck--exes-tell-all.html#ixzz1ORmP8rSP - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394588/More-evidence-Weiner-sent-infamous-Tweet-unearthed-TweetDeck--exes-tell-all.html#ixzz1ORmP8rSP
And liberal hufpo's stance...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-reinbach/the-last-word-on-weinerga_b_871417.html - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-reinbach/the-last-word-on-weinerga_b_871417.html
Makes the pic below even more damaging not only to weiner but the liberal media as well.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 06 June 2011 at 9:37am
I like how, to FE, simply being a liberal is criminal.
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 06 June 2011 at 1:16pm
Do I believe Weiner was hacked and someone posted a picture of a hard on in boxer briefs on his account? No
Do the articles you linked to prove that he sent them? No.
My guess is the guy was drunk and thought it would be a good idea to hit on college students. I am not in a position to lay out judgement on those grounds...
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 06 June 2011 at 1:24pm
more "drunk" "hacker" pics...
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 06 June 2011 at 3:29pm
mbro wrote:
Do I believe Weiner was hacked and someone posted a picture of a hard on in boxer briefs on his account? No
Me neither.
Do the articles you linked to prove that he sent them? No.
Agreed.
My guess is the guy was drunk and thought it would be a good idea to hit on college students. I am not in a position to lay out judgement on those grounds...
However, you are not a politician, someone responsible for helping run the nation, who may have committed acts including sexual harassment or worse. (Worse being the possibility of felonies related to interstate commerce in pornography depending upon the local laws and the path taken by the message.)
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Personal opinion, the guy's a perve and the people defending him or pretending nothing has happened are an embarrassment to their various organizations. However, with this said, he is innocent until proven guilty; which is something some of us should remember.
By the way, FE's huffpo link had me rolling. Keep in mind exactly what we are talking about here while reading the excerpts below:
- An informal poll . . . asked 100 New Yorkers . . . what they thought of it. The poll found most of the people asked said
they didn't care about it one way or another
- . . . Rep. Weiner's missteps handling it . . .
- People paying attention -- and who could look away -- know that the more Weiner talked about it, the worse it got for him
I also got a kick out of how the article blamed the right wing without proof of said allegations.
My Mackstradamus prediction is that once more is known, it will turn out that Wiener did indeed send this picture and the ensuing media frenzy will probably produce previous similar behavior on his part. I also predict that the radical left will continue to defend him way beyond the scope of common sense indicating his actions were inexcusable and will then throw him to the wolves and most will pretend they always knew he was guilty.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 06 June 2011 at 4:03pm
countdown to resignation...
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 06 June 2011 at 4:30pm
crying... moaning...
NOT resigning!
(no drugs, or drinking involved, just lying and poor decisions...) Apologizes to Breitbart!, who took over the beginning of the press conference... it was VERY interesting to say the least! Course if you don't watch fox you probably missed it. Find it online.
This is unreal. The arrogance and way he thinks this will just blow over without consequences.
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Posted By: Koolit32
Date Posted: 06 June 2011 at 5:12pm
Everything about this reminds me of this song.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 06 June 2011 at 5:13pm
Just wanted to point out that the first part of the Mackstradamus prediction came true even sooner than I expected.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_congressman_twitter_photo - Link
Having read FE's original links to the organizations that were ignoring this or calling it a right wing attack it should be interesting to return to those links when I have time.
Edited to add the text from Huffpo with color changes indicating the most amusing bits in light of recent developments.
http://huffingtonpost.com/andrew-reinbach">
http://huffingtonpost.com/andrew-reinbach - Andrew Reinbach
Journalist
The Last Word on Weinergate (Hopefully)
Posted: 06/ 5/11 08:31 PM ET
The only people who matter in Weinergate -- New York voters -- have spoken. Their verdict?
So what?
An informal poll on Weinergate published Saturday in http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-06-03/anthony-weiner-poll-would-new-yorkers-elect-him-mayor/?cid=hp:beastoriginalsL2 - The Daily Beast
asked 100 New Yorkers -- including some in Rep. Weiner's district --
what they thought of it. The poll found most of the people asked said
they didn't care about it one way or another, haven't changed their
opinion of Weiner, would vote for him again, don't think he sent the
picture, and that it isn't of him.
The bottom line? Anthony Weiner (D-NY) may have botched the media
strategy and embarrassed himself hugely; but he's still in Congress, he
isn't going anyplace and, assuming he's the same guy he was before this
attempt was made on his political life, he'll live to fight another day.
And when the time comes, I'm guessing the people who attacked him,
and the people behind it, can expect something in return. After all;
Anthony Weiner is from Brooklyn.
At this point, the details of this manufactured scandal, or Rep.
Weiner's missteps handling it, don't really need much repeating. We all
know somebody hacked into his Twitter account and sent a link to a
picture of some guy's underpants to a Seattle student; that Andrew
Breitbart put it on his web site, took it right down, and proceeded to
flog the story; and that the media treated this sliming like the
assassination of Lincoln -- probably because it was timed for a Memorial
Day weekend, when there was nothing else to report. People paying
attention -- and who could look away -- know that the more Weiner talked
about it, the worse it got for him.
What's gone largely unremarked is that the tactics used against Rep.
Weiner are the ones at the top of the Right Wing toolkit. At a minimum,
the Right Wing displays a fondness for tactics, and a willingness to
stoop, that I think have no place in the public sphere.
Politics may not be beanbag, and America's witnessed nasty politics
since the election of 1800; but to the extent there a direct line
between the infamous http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9j6Wfdq3o - Willie Horton ad for Bush the Elder in 1988 and the attack on Rep. Weiner, that line has been going downhill at 45 degrees.
How much lower it can go is beyond me, but I have confidence in the
Right Wing; they'll find a way. After all, they believe the ends justify
the means, even though in politics, there are no ends -- only means.
And if a politician uses means like the ones thrown at Rep. Weiner,
people willing to vote for him or her need to ask; if this is what
they're made of, what'll they do to the country?
The Right Wing seems addicted to conducting business at gunpoint,
with the safety off and the barrel in their target's ear -- most
recently, in the country's ear. Sure, all politics and much of business
is conducted at gunpoint. Extortion and blackmail are all part of it.
And every negotiation has an "or" in it.
But usually, people know the guns are there; they don't need to be
waved about. And people who don't care how they get somebody, and don't
care how much collateral damage they cause doing it, are like terrorists
willing to blow up a loaded airliner to kill one man.
But since the Right Wing we've come to know is full of fronts for the
John Birch Society -- the two main figures behind it are Richard Mellon
Scaife and the Koch brothers, all sons of JBS founders -- maybe we
shouldn't be surprised.
After all, in the 1970s the JBS, through its future chairman, Dr. Larry McDonald, promoted and profited from the http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-reinbach/bloodstained-politics_b_259639.html - laetrile fraud . Treating patients with laetrile was murder and you can't tell me McDonald, an internist, didn't know it.
Laetrile, for those of you who don't know, was pushed as a miracle
cure for cancer. But it was made from apricot pits and full of cyanide.
Cyanide attacks the central nervous system. So people "treated" with
laetrile felt better because they didn't feel the cancer. Then they
died. And then the people behind it all said they could have saved their
victims, if only they'd come to them earlier.
William F. Buckley, Jr. and his allies marginalized the JBS in the
1960s. But unlike its victims, it didn't die. Fifty years later, the
sons of people willing to finance their politics with murder are a huge
influence on the Republican Party.
So are we amazed to find their operatives are perfectly willing to
make penis jokes if they think it'll help them smear their enemies? Out
an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plame_affair - undercover CIA agent to punish her husband? Or risk provoking a global depression by http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/30/us-usa-economy-debt-idUSTRE70T2ZT20110130 - defaulting on the national debt to get their way?
The question is more like what have they been doing we don't know about yet.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 06 June 2011 at 5:21pm
Between Weiner and http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/congressman-chris-lee-resigns-shirtless-photo-posted-internet/story?id=12878937 - Christopher Lee's resignation last month , this should be a lesson for politicians:
If you'll be ashamed of the action in real life, don't put it on the Internet.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 06 June 2011 at 5:28pm
Hopefully Stewart has not finished taping tonight's show.
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Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 06 June 2011 at 5:38pm
lolWienergate
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 8:32am
ABC is roasting weiner...
Guess calling out the integrity of a reporter and blaming the entire thing on the "media" (aka Breitbart) while lashing out and lying to this degree is according to many liberals "not wrong".
Weiner even said he wasn't resigning because "he did nothing wrong or unethical"...
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/06/06/creepy-must-see-flashback-weiner-lies-shamelessly-to-abc-about-what-happened/ - http://hotair.com/archives/2011/06/06/creepy-must-see-flashback-weiner-lies-shamelessly-to-abc-about-what-happened/
The Huffpo article that blamed Breitbart has an update now... Quite telling about the "journOlist" who wrote it.
Here is where Breitbart "hacked" weiners press conference... Maybe this will force these arrogant "public servants" to actually show up on time instead of making everyone wait.
Breitbart calls out the media in the room in a way that is unreal. And the best part is they way the media (no bias of course) tries to make this out as a "non story". It is headlines all over the country today...
Blame the messenger typical liberal media tactic.
Weiner proves he is a liar. (and only takes credit for 6 "relationships"...).
Only 6... yeah right. Guess we are supposed to "trust" the liar now. So far in the press we have read that weiner had phone sex with one of these people FROM HIS OFFICE at congress, as she called him back on that line and got his secretary at congress! So someone is lying...
There are minors involved...
I wonder if weiner will be affected by his bill about internet sex predators of children?
Oh that's right, rules are for OTHERS, not the politicians that write them. That is why Obamacare doesn't apply to the politicians that signed it into law.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 9:24am
"After all;
Anthony Weiner is from Brooklyn." What in the hell has that got to do with anything?
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 9:52am
It means that his constituency is stupid... and won't care... (Charlie Wrangle... as proof of their voting idiocy)
This blog posting is what SHOULD have been on the front page of every paper in the country today...
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/06/democrats_are_rightits_not_about_sex.html - http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/06/democrats_are_rightits_not_about_sex.html
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 9:57am
^^^Have you ever been to Brooklyn??
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:04am
FreeEnterprise wrote:
This blog posting is what SHOULD have been on the front page of every paper in the country today...
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Do you read a lot of newspapers with blog postings on the front page?
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:08am
Does the fact that this congressman having power "of the purse" to spend federal money as he pleases even if he is being blackmailed not a concern for you?
Why wouldn't that question be front and center in this story, as it is most pertinent? Oh yeah... democrat.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:11am
FreeEnterprise wrote:
Why wouldn't that question be front and center in this story, as it is most pertinent? |
Possibly because the press conference was in the early evening yesterday, and the admission of guilt was the news story.
How often do you see opinionated questions on the front page of newspapers?
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:13am
No, here is a bigger picture for you. Brooklyn is dominated by Israelis and Russians. Wiener is from Brooklyn. His campaign money is coming directly from the Kremlin and Tel Aviv. It is all part of the secret agenda by the Obama administration for social engineering/Communism/Socialism. I have to take my tin foil hat off now because Major League Baseball is messing with my reception with ancient Mayan witch doctors.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:15am
It is comforting to see that all of our country's problems have been resolved and we have absolutely nothing more important to talk about than someone posting pictures on twitter.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:18am
Ahh, it is my "opinion" that he holds the power of the purse, and only my "opinion" that with his blatant womanizing "could" have set him up for blackmail...
Guess, you missed the press conference, or more likely didn't listen to what Breitbart said when he said he opened himself up FOR BLACKMAIL!...
It is the major part of this story... Unless you ignore it... because...
democrat.
Come on whale, if you want to be a journalist, you have to get over this blatant bias.
That is the entire problem with a congressman doing stuff like this, they can be manipulated into corruption based on their indiscretions. To not see that as a major part of this story is troubling.
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:19am
Ceesman762 wrote:
No, here is a bigger picture for you. Brooklyn is dominated by Israelis and Russians. Wiener is from Brooklyn. His campaign money is coming directly from the Kremlin and Tel Aviv. It is all part of the secret agenda by the Obama administration for social engineering/Communism/Socialism. I have to take my tin foil hat off now because Major League Baseball is messing with my reception with ancient Mayan witch doctors. | Wait. I thought Obama hated Israel?
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:20am
Ceesman762 wrote:
No, here is a bigger picture for you. Brooklyn is dominated by Israelis |
Funny enough, from looking at the front-pages from New York today, the Hamodia didn't cover the Weiner thing.
You'd figure he being in New York and being Jewish would put him front and center.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:24am
FreeEnterprise wrote:
To not see that as a major part of this story is troubling. |
You originally proposed that the linked blog post from American Thinker be placed on the front page of newspapers covering this scandal.
I simply asked how many blog posts you see on the front page of newspapers.
Which has yet to be answered.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:26am
oldpbnoob wrote:
Ceesman762 wrote:
No, here is a bigger picture for you. Brooklyn is dominated by Israelis and Russians. Wiener is from Brooklyn. His campaign money is coming directly from the Kremlin and Tel Aviv. It is all part of the secret agenda by the Obama administration for social engineering/Communism/Socialism. I have to take my tin foil hat off now because Major League Baseball is messing with my reception with ancient Mayan witch doctors. | Wait. I thought Obama hated Israel? |
That is what THEY want you to believe!
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:26am
How exactly do you blackmail someone by threatening to expose them for something that is now public knowledge?
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:27am
Ceesman762 wrote:
oldpbnoob wrote:
Ceesman762 wrote:
No, here is a bigger picture for you. Brooklyn is dominated by Israelis and Russians. Wiener is from Brooklyn. His campaign money is coming directly from the Kremlin and Tel Aviv. It is all part of the secret agenda by the Obama administration for social engineering/Communism/Socialism. I have to take my tin foil hat off now because Major League Baseball is messing with my reception with ancient Mayan witch doctors. | Wait. I thought Obama hated Israel? |
That is what THEY want you to believe!
| I KNEW it! Man your bunkers!
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:29am
oldpbnoob wrote:
Ceesman762 wrote:
oldpbnoob wrote:
Ceesman762 wrote:
No, here is a bigger picture for you. Brooklyn is dominated by Israelis and Russians. Wiener is from Brooklyn. His campaign money is coming directly from the Kremlin and Tel Aviv. It is all part of the secret agenda by the Obama administration for social engineering/Communism/Socialism. I have to take my tin foil hat off now because Major League Baseball is messing with my reception with ancient Mayan witch doctors. | Wait. I thought Obama hated Israel? |
That is what THEY want you to believe!
| I KNEW it! Man your bunkers! |
This is a conspiracy that goes all the way back to the failing NY Mets management.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:29am
you got me... I wasn't talking about posting a blog post on the front page of papers. I was talking about how I haven't yet seen a news story from the "lamestream media" that talks about how wiener should be gone because actions like this open him up to being blackmailed.
To accept behavior like this from our elected officials is unbelievable. But, even more troubling is the way many in the media have pretended this isn't a problem...
Journalists of old wouldn't have ignored that obvious question and it would have entered into the stories, since we see examples of other questions with a liberal slant in so much of our "news" anyway... To pretend news isn't a big "blog" anyway is silly. Everyone has biases and world views, which shape their "reporting"...
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:30am
agentwhale007 wrote:
Ceesman762 wrote:
No, here is a bigger picture for you. Brooklyn is dominated by Israelis |
Funny enough, from looking at the front-pages from New York today, the Hamodia didn't cover the Weiner thing.
You'd figure he being in New York and being Jewish would put him front and center. |
I am going to SWAG this one, I feel the Jewish community in Brooklyn, very large Hassidic population, doesn't like him? I am saying this because in those areas of Brooklyn, mainly around Coney Island, you don't find political/"vote for me" posters or advertisements. Just my observation from my last trip to Coney Island. That me be a completely different case in Bed-Stuy.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:32am
agentwhale007 wrote:
oldpbnoob wrote:
Ceesman762 wrote:
oldpbnoob wrote:
Ceesman762 wrote:
No, here is a bigger picture for you. Brooklyn is dominated by Israelis and Russians. Wiener is from Brooklyn. His campaign money is coming directly from the Kremlin and Tel Aviv. It is all part of the secret agenda by the Obama administration for social engineering/Communism/Socialism. I have to take my tin foil hat off now because Major League Baseball is messing with my reception with ancient Mayan witch doctors. | Wait. I thought Obama hated Israel? |
That is what THEY want you to believe!
| I KNEW it! Man your bunkers! |
This is a conspiracy that goes all the way back to the failing NY Mets management.
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Exactly. They destroyed Shea stadium to hide Jimmy Hoffa's body.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:39am
FreeEnterprise wrote:
I wasn't talking about posting a blog post on the front page of papers. |
Oh, ok.
FreeEnterprise wrote:
This blog posting is what SHOULD have been on the front page of every paper in the country today... |
that talks about how wiener should be gone because actions like this open him up to being blackmailed. |
I've not read much this morning on the scandal, but typically the way news stories work, at least in print, is they are a collected report of what others have said, and available sourced information.
If someone has said he should be resigned, by all means, that person or people should be sourced in the article. But you're suggesting that the reporters themselves ought be the ones calling for Weiner's resignation. That's the confusing part.
Are you suggesting that a newspaper have their reporters advocate for particular issues in their news articles?
Or are you suggesting that newspapers run opinion pieces on the front page?
Which is it?
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:48am
The video is linked on this thread... AT the press conference Breitbart brought up the fact that this was a news story because weiner was acting in a way that opened him up to blackmail.
So it was part of the story at that point, yet it was ignored by the media... and I haven't seen a single story that talks about that obvious problem with a sitting congressman trying to e-hook up with young women on the web like a horndog.
So clearly this WAS part of the story, yet it didn't hit the stories.
That is bias, plain and simple, as a reporter, it should have been part of every story, as it is the reason why this matters.
Seriously watch breitbarts "hacking" of the press conference called by weiner. I linked it on page 2. Explain to me how that can be ignored when it was made clear by Breitbart WHY this was important, as it opened him up to blackmail.
To NOT report on that part of the press conference is clearly ignoring THE POINT of why this is the story... (according to breitbart WHO BROKE THE STORY)...
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 10:58am
FreeEnterprise wrote:
So it was part of the story at that point, yet it was ignored by the media... |
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/07/earlyshow/main20069633.shtml. - Link.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/06/andrew-breitbart-anthony-weiner-x-rated-photo-/1 - Link .
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/breitbart-boosts-cred-with-weiner-confession/2011/06/07/AGDMp9KH_video.html - Link.
FreeEnterprise wrote:
I haven't yet seen a news story from the "lamestream media" that talks about how wiener should be gone because actions like this |
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7599187.html - Link.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 11:22am
Wow. Given the media reversal, the admission of other similar behaviors and the lack of support from the Democratic party for this Weiner, I would have to say that my Mackstradamus predictions were right on. Furthermore, I would like to point out that the predictions of my savant alter-ego have proved 100% accurate for those that have come true so far.*
oldpbnoob wrote:
How exactly do you blackmail someone by threatening to expose them for something that is now public knowledge? |
I think FE means that he was open to blackmail before the situation
became public knowledge. And, given the integrity that Weiner has shown
in handling this situation, I have to admit that any fears that he might
have sold the country down the river to protect his privates on this
issue if blackmailed are probably justified.
agentwhale007 wrote:
If someone has said he should be resigned, by all
means, that person or people should be sourced in the article. But
you're suggesting that the reporters themselves ought be the ones
calling for Weiner's resignation. That's the confusing part.
Are you suggesting that a newspaper have their reporters advocate for particular issues in their news articles?
Or are you suggesting that newspapers run opinion pieces on the front page?
Which is it? |
This. It is not the place of the news media to add opinions to factual
news articles. With that said, my personal opinion is that they have a
better record of not adding opinions to reports of left-wing wrong doing
than they do to reports of right-wing wrong doing . . . but that might
just be my personal bias in action.
*Yes, that was FE logic . . . I couldn't resist. (Although honestly I do think I am having a pretty good batting average with predictions--I should go back and check some of the others.)
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 11:32am
agentwhale007 wrote:
FreeEnterprise wrote:
So it was part of the story at that point, yet it was ignored by the media... |
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/07/earlyshow/main20069633.shtml. - Link.
Nothing about the possibility of a congressman being blackmailed in that article...
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011/06/andrew-breitbart-anthony-weiner-x-rated-photo-/1 - Link .
Nothing about the possibility of a congressman being blackmailed in that article...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/breitbart-boosts-cred-with-weiner-confession/2011/06/07/AGDMp9KH_video.html - Link.
Nothing about the possibility of a congressman being blackmailed in that video package...
Nice how that video package uses the typical mainstream media meme that breitbart "selectively" edited the Sharrod footage... when I posted that original footage here... And if anyone had read it or watched the video they would know the truth about that... But, clearly people make up "facts" and run with them by repeating them over and over even thought they are clearly false. He had in that original article/ video the footage/words that showed she realized how she was wrong and helped the man. The story was about how the NAACP was racist as the speech was in front of them and they were clapping and "alright"ing the racist comments she made. But, that doesn't fit the narrative, so that is ignored, and this false meme is repeated everytime a "liberal" gets ahold of anything breitbart.
pathetic example of "today's biased journalism".
FreeEnterprise wrote:
I haven't yet seen a news story from the "lamestream media" that talks about how wiener should be gone because actions like this
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7599187.html - Link.
Nothing about the possibility of a congressman being blackmailed in that article...
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Here is the press conference again. Notice how 3:45 that never makes it into the narrative of the stories... No accountability when the left invents spin and tries to destroy their "opponents". He states the main point of covering the story is that the congressman is lying (and when lying, blackmail is clearly the issue at hand) at 5:10 he talks about "why did you put this on the web?" ONLY AFTER a sitting congressman said he had been "hacked" and after ALL of his photos had been pulled and the woman pulled her facebook, AND twitter... (attempting to cover up the evidence... because if it is out there, it can be used against him by a blackmailer...)
10:00 is an unbelievable rant against the media and calls them ALL out, which they don't have a single example of him lying in ANY of his stories. NOT ONE...
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 11:52am
FreeEnterprise wrote:
Nothing about the possibility of a congressman being blackmailed in that article... |
So, despite the myriad coverage of the scandal, despite it being in a total of 134 newspapers this morning*, despite the story being on the front page of a good portion of those newspapers, including a majority of the New York newspapers**, there is bias shown because they don't bring up the concept of blackmail?
*According to the NewsBank: America's Newspapers academic database. **According to the Newseum Daily Front Pages.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 11:58am
FreeEnterprise wrote:
I haven't seen a single story that talks about that obvious problem with a sitting congressman trying to e-hook up with young women on the web like a horndog. |
I'm also quite confused by this statement. Almost everything I've read about it today mentions him sending lewd photos to women on the Internet, as well as his confession of infidelity.
And, there has yet to be a response to the questions proposed after your suggestion that newspapers should be running opinion pieces or blogs on the front pages of their products:
agentwhale007 wrote:
Are you suggesting that a newspaper have their reporters advocate for particular issues in their news articles?
Or are you suggesting that newspapers run opinion pieces on the front page?
Which is it?
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 12:02pm
Who, what, when, where, WHY...
The WHY to this story as to why it matters if a CONGRESSMAN is caught doing something and lying about it is clearly a major part of a story... Especially since the leftwing media has made it clear that "who cares" as I have chronicled in this thread.
Well, anyone in a position of power, controlling the purse strings of the nation who puts themselves in a position where they can be blackmailed... THAT is the "why" people should care about this story, and "Why" it matters.
At least according to the journalism classes I took in college, WHY was always a major point to a story.
To ignore that in the articles you linked clearly shows a major reporting bias...
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 12:04pm
oldpbnoob wrote:
How exactly do you blackmail someone by threatening to expose them for something that is now public knowledge? | ?
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 12:08pm
oldpbnoob wrote:
oldpbnoob wrote:
How exactly do you blackmail someone by threatening to expose them for something that is now public knowledge? | ? |
Well, clearly this guy has a problem with young women... And never in history have nefarious people who know that someone has a sex problem used that to gain influence or blackmail them...
oh wait... Yes... yes they have...
I guess you think he wouldn't do something that stupid after yesterday... oh wait, clearly he would since yesterday happened from his stupid decisions...
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 12:12pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
The WHY to this story as to why it matters if a CONGRESSMAN is caught doing something and lying about it is clearly a major part of a story... |
And there has been myriad coverage of his actions and the repercussions of his actions, at least in the databases I have access to. There have been 134 stories this morning.
If the coverage date is expanded back to June 1, 2011, that number of printed articles jumps to 452.
None of them I've read this morning have not mentioned that Weiner was a congressman, and that Weiner admitted to lying.
Especially since the leftwing media has made it clear that "who cares" as I have chronicled in this thread. |
I've yet to see a news article suggesting - itself - "who cares."
I've seen opinion pieces on the matter.
To ignore that in the articles you linked clearly shows a major reporting bias... |
Every news article I've read mentions that he was caught in a lie.
So, is your basis of the news coverage being bias simply coming down to them not using the term "blackmail?"
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 12:13pm
A House ethics investigation has been started, the congressman publicly admitted his guilt and your beloved Breitbart got his apology.
Why are the wheels of the outrage machine still in motion?
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 12:15pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
I guess you think he wouldn't do something that stupid after yesterday... oh wait, clearly he would since yesterday happened from his stupid decisions... |
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 12:28pm
High Voltage wrote:
A House ethics investigation has been started, the congressman publicly admitted his guilt and your beloved Breitbart got his apology.
Why are the wheels of the outrage machine still in motion?
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Maxine Waters and Charley Rangle are still in office...
Excuse me if I find "ethics investigations" to be a big partisan sham, when they clearly don't result in the expulsion of corrupt congressman/women in a timely manner...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40399.html - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40399.html
Almost a YEAR since that "decision near" article...
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/05/opinion/la-ed-waters-20110405 - http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/05/opinion/la-ed-waters-20110405
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 12:37pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
High Voltage wrote:
A House ethics investigation has been started, the congressman publicly admitted his guilt and your beloved Breitbart got his apology.
Why are the wheels of the outrage machine still in motion?
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Maxine Waters and Charley Rangle are still in office...
Which is apparently where their constituents, stupid as it may be, want them to be. It's called "democracy."
Excuse me if I find "ethics investigations" to be a big partisan sham, when they clearly don't result in the expulsion of corrupt congressman/women in a timely manner...
This, I agree with. However, that only makes it my opinion . . . and my opinion carries little weight against the votes of those who kept the people mentioned in office. (It's that pesky democratic process thing again.)
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40399.html - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40399.html
Almost a YEAR since that "decision near" article...
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/05/opinion/la-ed-waters-20110405 - http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/05/opinion/la-ed-waters-20110405 |
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 1:00pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
High Voltage wrote:
A House ethics investigation has been started, the congressman publicly admitted his guilt and your beloved Breitbart got his apology.
Why are the wheels of the outrage machine still in motion?
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Maxine Waters and Charley Rangle are still in office...
Excuse me if I find "ethics investigations" to be a big partisan sham, when they clearly don't result in the expulsion of corrupt congressman/women in a timely manner...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40399.html - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40399.html
Almost a YEAR since that "decision near" article...
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/05/opinion/la-ed-waters-20110405 - http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/05/opinion/la-ed-waters-20110405 |
And neither of those people's cases compare to Weiner posting flirtatious pictures online. As far as I know there is not a law against that. I feel the need to remind you he is no Paladino, that's a human under that fabric, not a horse.
You really need to work on your weiner obsession, it's becoming unhealthy. IMO if he's cleared of any wrongdoing involving federal time or resources this has no more need to make big headlines. It is then a private matter between he and his wife. We, as a country, have much more important issues to address. Fat chance of that happening though considering the state of our 24 hour news cycle.
Mack has a good point that I'd like to make a slight addition to. Barring criminal activity, it is up to his constituents to determine whether he remains in office.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 1:07pm
High Voltage wrote:
Mack has a good point that I'd like to make a slight addition to. Barring criminal activity, it is up to his constituents to determine whether he remains in office.
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His constituents and himself.
I think Chris Lee made the smart decision - certainly smarter than Weiner - by stepping down as soon as it came to light that he had acted inappropriately and was going to have to deal with his personal life decisions.
I'd wager a bet that it's the reason the media paid far less attention to Lee than it has Weiner. Lee told the truth and stepped down.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 1:09pm
^^^and Wiener is not popular here on Long Island, I can't speak for the people who voted for him but a lot of people here on the Island don't like him or Peter King because of the childish pushing matches they do every time they get on the camera together and with "certitude" we hate his dramatic flair.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 2:03pm
WSJ rings the bell... Answering the "why" question.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304474804576369990191138976.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop#printMode - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304474804576369990191138976.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop#printMode
"The Weiner fiasco, however, raises issues that transcend one man's personal indulgence.
The private citizens of Queens voted to make Anthony Weiner a public citizen and their Representative. They assumed he would show judgment not for himself alone but for them and their interests.
Instead, he has shattered his ability to serve their interests. In an age of aggressive computer hacking, he also put himself at risk of blackmail by criminals or adversaries. His week of fantastic lies proved how vulnerable he or any public figure is to selling out his integrity to save himself from humiliation.
Anthony Weiner now joins a disturbing list of elected officials in our time who've lost any sense of self-discipline. "
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 2:05pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
WSJ rings the bell... Answering the "why" question. |
It's also an opinion piece, posted in the "Review & Outlook" section.
Which brings us back: Do you want more opinion pieces printed in newspapers, particularly on the front page?
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 2:08pm
Depends on the opinion ...
We get opinion quite often, but it seems to have a liberal slant... It would be nice to see some that went the other way at times... (fair and balanced perhaps?)
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 2:09pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
We get opinion quite often |
Citations, please.
FreeEnterprise wrote:
It would be nice to see some that went the other way at times...
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So, you're essentially advocating for biased news in favor of the things you support? You'd rather that news articles conform to confirmation bias?
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 2:27pm
http://www.mrc.org/books/identifybias.asp - http://www.mrc.org/books/identifybias.asp
http://www.mrc.org/timeswatch/ - http://www.mrc.org/timeswatch/
http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/archive.aspx - http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/archive.aspx
front page of nytimes right now...
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/07/pawlenty-promises-high-growth-low-taxes-tight-spending/?hp - http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/07/pawlenty-promises-high-growth-low-taxes-tight-spending/?hp
hmm a blog on the front page...w e i r d
http://www.amazon.com/Slobbering-Love-Affair-Pathetic-Mainstream/dp/1596980907 - http://www.amazon.com/Slobbering-Love-Affair-Pathetic-Mainstream/dp/1596980907
I could go on and on, but you can look at http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs - http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs to see tons of DAILY examples of blatant liberal media bias...
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 2:33pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
http://www.mrc.org/books/identifybias.asp - http://www.mrc.org/books/identifybias.asp
http://www.mrc.org/timeswatch/ - http://www.mrc.org/timeswatch/
http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/archive.aspx - http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/archive.aspx
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So your proposal for the proof that media is biased is a conservative think-tank and a non-scientific book?
I've no doubt that some of the MRC's results are somewhat valid - however, examining their methodology has shown me that they can swing their coding mechanism to favor particular samples and privilege desired results.
But we're talking about Weiner here.
front page of nytimes right now...
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/07/pawlenty-promises-high-growth-low-taxes-tight-spending/?hp - http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/07/pawlenty-promises-high-growth-low-taxes-tight-spending/?hp |
- What, exactly, is the bias to that story?
- That is a "blog" posting, yes, but the NYT Caucus also posts news articles. That link contains a news article.
Furthermore, do you have any specific examples of bias in the news coverage of the Weiner situation, as that is what we are discussing here.
Where is the example of bias in the news coverage of this scandal?
Is it simply them not using the word "blackmail?"
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 2:39pm
High Voltage wrote:
You really need to work on your weiner obsession, it's becoming unhealthy.
I laughed at this . . . but I think it could more accurately be described as a Weiner fixation.
IMO if he's cleared of any wrongdoing involving federal time or resources this has no more need to make big headlines. It is then a private matter between he and his wife.
I disagree here. It should be headlines because it speaks to character; something that I consider important in selecting an elected official.
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FE was correct above . . . the Wall Street Journal did hit the nail on the head.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 2:55pm
Front page bias on weiner...
Easy same paper...
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/07/five-reasons-weiner-might-survive-and-five-he-might-not/?hp - http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/07/five-reasons-weiner-might-survive-and-five-he-might-not/?hp
oh lookie, another blog...
do I really have to point out all of the liberal bias in that story?
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 2:58pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
do I really have to point out all of the liberal bias in that story? |
That's an opinion piece.
You can tell from the five-point counter-opinions listed at the bottom there.
Do you have a news story about Weiner to bring to the table and show bias?
Or, again, is the bias with the actual news coverage of the scandal only that they didn't use the word "blackmail?"
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 3:07pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
We get opinion quite often, but it seems to have a liberal slant... It would be nice to see some that went the other way at times... (fair and balanced perhaps?) |
This might be the funniest statement of the year. When is the wealthy white man ever going to be heard?
FE for forum comedian 2011!
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 3:12pm
agentwhale007 wrote:
FreeEnterprise wrote:
WSJ rings the bell... Answering the "why" question. |
It's also an opinion piece, posted in the "Review & Outlook" section.
While it is an opinion piece, much of it can be accepted as fact.
Which brings us back: Do you want more opinion pieces printed in newspapers, particularly on the front page?
He wants the media to assassinate the left and heap adoration the right. (You know . . . the opposite of what they do now:)
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The article is short so I will dissect it below:
Anthony Weiner's Judgment
The scandal raises issues that transcend one man's personal indulgence.
Last
November, 67,000 citizens of the 9th U.S. District in Queens, New York,
voted to return Anthony Weiner to the House of Representatives. Agree
or disagree with his politics and style, Mr. Weiner became a principal
player at the highest level of our public life. That's over, blown up by
Mr. Weiner's singular lack of judgment.
Associated Press
Rep. Anthony Weiner (D., N.Y.) addresses a news conference in New York on Monday. In
one of the most unbearable news conferences ever seen, Congressman
Weiner admitted his week of lies about his lewd online relationships,
apologized to all and sundry, but said he will not resign. (fact) We'll leave
the last point to his constituents, but Mr. Weiner's ambitions to be
mayor of New York City are finished and his credibility in national
politics after this is next to nothing. (opinion, but probably correct)
It is inevitably the nature of media today that scandals like this
pitch the perpetrator into a deep personal hell. (fact--this can't be a lot of fun for Weiner) The Weiner fiasco,
however, raises issues that transcend one man's personal indulgence. (fact--issues have been raised; this thread is proof of that)
The private citizens of Queens voted to make Anthony Weiner a public
citizen and their Representative. They assumed he would show judgment
not for himself alone but for them and their interests. (fact)
Instead, he has shattered his ability to serve their interests. (opinion--this will be decided by the voters) In an
age of aggressive computer hacking, he also put himself at risk of
blackmail by criminals or adversaries. (fact--any improper actions create risk of blackmail) His week of fantastic lies proved
how vulnerable he or any public figure is to selling out his integrity
to save himself from humiliation. (Have to go opinion on this--but accurate opinion)
Anthony Weiner now joins a disturbing list of elected officials in
our time who've lost any sense of self-discipline. If there are others
out there wandering in the confused ethers that trapped Anthony Weiner,
we have a request: Get out now. Spare the rest of us.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 3:18pm
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2011/06/07/recap-most-ridiculous-leftist-defenses-anthony-weiner
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43299964/ns/politics-capitol_hill/ - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43299964/ns/politics-capitol_hill/
Front page of MSNBC.
Notice the "news" story is void of the fact that one of the women said he called her on his congressional phone...
Notice the use of the word "conservative" when describing the news source that first published the photo... When have you EVER seen them label a "liberal" news source as such? That is bias.
Also "conservatist activist" not journalist. Again, bias.
MSNBC posts picture and says they haven't verified it... meaning it could be FAKE. typical liberal spin... bias. They don't put up something like that for other pics they use...
Oh, and the favorite of the liberal press. Notice there is no "liberal" or "Democrat" in the title of the story... weird since there is typically one of those labels if it were a republican or conservative... bias.
The article also parrots his "never any physical relationship" like it is fact... when the guy is a proven liar.
then they have stuff like this.
"Earlier Monday before Weiner's public admission, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg was asked whether the congressman could continue to effectively represent New Yorkers.
"It's always up to the constituents," Bloomberg said, adding that it was "time to get back and focus on the serious things.""
In other words, ignore this, no big deal, get back to work...
bias plain and simple.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 3:25pm
Mack wrote:
While it is an opinion piece, much of it can be accepted as fact.
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That comes down to crappy labeling on the behalf of the NYT Caucus blog.
It's part of the reason I rarely read it.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 3:33pm
Notice the difference in just the headline between Chris Lee and Weiner...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41499032/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/republican-chris-lee-quits-house-internet-scandal/ - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41499032/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/republican-chris-lee-quits-house-internet-scandal/
Weird how they label him "republican" in the title... But, it takes paragraphs before they put in the "democrat" in weiners article.
bias.
I wonder if you will acknowledge it?
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 3:38pm
Uh Oh! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/06/anthony-weiner-ethics-investigation-nancy-pelosi_n_872153.html - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/06/anthony-weiner-ethics-investigation-nancy-pelosi_n_872153.html
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 3:41pm
Mack wrote:
High Voltage wrote:
You really need to work on your weiner obsession, it's becoming unhealthy.
I laughed at this . . . but I think it could more accurately be described as a Weiner fixation.
IMO if he's cleared of any wrongdoing involving federal time or resources this has no more need to make big headlines. It is then a private matter between he and his wife.
I disagree here. It should be headlines because it speaks to character; something that I consider important in selecting an elected official.
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I called them big for a reason. This no longer deserves the attention of a breaking news story. I did not say they should stop covering it, merely that they should devote the kind of attention weiner got to more important issues. By more important issues I mean those affecting more than just Rep. Weiner's constituency.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 3:42pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
Notice the difference in just the headline between Chris Lee and Weiner...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41499032/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/republican-chris-lee-quits-house-internet-scandal/ - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41499032/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/republican-chris-lee-quits-house-internet-scandal/
Weird how they label him "republican" in the title... But, it takes paragraphs before they put in the "democrat" in weiners article.
bias.
I wonder if you will acknowledge it?
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Everyone has acknowledged msnbc as biased. They are the Fox News for the left. Pay attention.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 3:44pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
Notice the "news" story is void of the fact that one of the women said he called her on his congressional phone... |
Was this confirmed at the time of the writing? Honest question, I don't know.
Notice the use of the word "conservative" when describing the news source that first published the photo... When have you EVER seen them label a "liberal" news source as such? |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43185794 - Link. "The liberal blog Firedoglake.com . . . "
Also "conservatist activist" not journalist. |
He is indeed a conservative activist. I suppose this is a matter of perspective, however.
MSNBC posts picture and says they haven't verified it... meaning it could be FAKE. typical liberal spin... bias. They don't put up something like that for other pics they use... |
If the idea was the somehow make this a liberal bias, why even run the photos in the first place?
Oh, and the favorite of the liberal press. Notice there is no "liberal" or "Democrat" in the title of the story... weird since there is typically one of those labels if it were a republican or conservative... bias. |
Similar scandal a few months back with a Republican. Let's examine MSNBC's breaking article on the matter:
Headline: " http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41498568/ns/politics-capitol_hill/t/congressman-resigns-amid-craigslist-scandal/ - Congressman resigns amid Craigslist scandal. "
Subheadline: "Gawker says Rep. Lee of New York sent shirtless images in response to dating ad."
The article also parrots his "never any physical relationship" like it is fact... |
The article is quoting Weiner's statement on the matter.
Quoting people, particularly the people the article is about, is usually what reporters do.
In other words, ignore this, no big deal, get back to work... |
Bloomberg is saying that. Not the reporter.
The article is quoting another politician in the state on his opinion.
Should the reporter have not interviewed Bloomberg? Not included his quote?
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 3:53pm
High Voltage wrote:
Everyone has acknowledged msnbc as biased. They are the Fox News for the left. Pay attention.
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Perhaps this is my own perceptive problem, but I don't see that article as inherently bias.
I'll concede that the whole "journalist" vs. "activist" thing could very well be an indicator for other forms of bias.
Granted, as far as their opinions and editorials go, MSNBC is for sure biased. Their talking heads reflect that.
But, like in other media organizations, their news coverage is different from their opinion and editorial.
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 4:05pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
oldpbnoob wrote:
oldpbnoob wrote:
How exactly do you blackmail someone by threatening to expose them for something that is now public knowledge? | ? |
Well, clearly this guy has a problem with young women... And never in history have nefarious people who know that someone has a sex problem used that to gain influence or blackmail them...
oh wait... Yes... yes they have...
I guess you think he wouldn't do something that stupid after yesterday... oh wait, clearly he would since yesterday happened from his stupid decisions... | I'll speak slower so you can understand.
How can the media report that he was a blackmail risk until he admitted that the did it? Doing so prior would be biased. And once he admitted he did it, he is no longer a blackmail risk. It actually goes to show how unbiased the media is in the fact that they waited until he admitted he did it. Had they called him a blackmail risk prior to his admittance would have been akin to declaring someone guilty without a trial.
And isnt Christianity all about giving people the benefit of a doubt and not casting judgement on other? Isnt that for God to to do? As mentioned, he is not your elected representative. He has not broken any laws that I am aware of. And frankly, his personal life is none of our freaking business.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 4:10pm
oldpbnoob wrote:
How can the media report that he was a blackmail risk until he admitted that the did it? Doing so prior would be biased. And once he admitted he did it, he is no longer a blackmail risk. |
Thus my confused dog face earlier.
Apparently the media is biased for not playing Minority Report with a then-accusation.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 4:26pm
agentwhale007 wrote:
High Voltage wrote:
Everyone has acknowledged msnbc as biased. They are the Fox News for the left. Pay attention.
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Perhaps this is my own perceptive problem, but I don't see that article as inherently bias.
I'll concede that the whole "journalist" vs. "activist" thing could very well be an indicator for other forms of bias.
Granted, as far as their opinions and editorials go, MSNBC is for sure biased. Their talking heads reflect that.
But, like in other media organizations, their news coverage is different from their opinion and editorial.
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Oh I wasn't talking about that article, I was speaking about their tv channel. My bad.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 4:29pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
Come on whale, if you want to be a journalist,
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I'll also take the time to address that this is no longer an accurate assumption.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 5:59pm
High Voltage wrote:
I called them big for a reason. This no longer deserves the attention of a breaking news story. I did not say they should stop covering it, merely that they should devote the kind of attention weiner got to more important issues. By more important issues I mean those affecting more than just Rep. Weiner's constituency.
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Of course it should continue to be treated as a big story . . . it's about Weiner's wiener; it just can't be ignored or downplayed. (You only get stories with this so much win potential a few times a century . . . it can't be wasted.)
agentwhale007 wrote:
FreeEnterprise wrote:
Come on whale, if you want to be a journalist,
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I'll also take the time to address that this is no longer an accurate assumption. |
So you've given up on that silly journalism thing and have decided to be a self-employed BMXer/faith healer instead? 
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 6:12pm
Mack wrote:
So you've given up on that silly journalism thing and have decided to be a self-employed BMXer/faith healer instead? 
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I don't have the teeth for the evangelical gigs.
Have you seen Joel Osteen? I've never seen teeth that bright and straight in my entire life, not even in promotional posters for toothpaste.
They're almost . . . divine.
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 6:44pm
"Boehner silent on Weiner"
"Weiner will rise again"
"Pelosi requests Weiner probe"
"Over half of NYC wants Weiner out"
And for Whale-"Weinergate."
Greatest. Story. Ever.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 7:12pm
^^^ Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about!
I think that this story will end up politically neutering Weiner.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 7:16pm
Adam Richman, the guy form Man vs. Food, tweeted today:
"I'm truly sympathetic to Rep. Anthony Weiner's plight w/ pic scandal & hope it serves as a cautionary tale to Rep. Henrietta Vagina."
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 07 June 2011 at 11:03pm
Guess that's another reason I can't run for office....
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Posted By: jimmy900623
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 2:02am
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 10:13am
jimmy900623 wrote:
well. i have got the link, think you for your information, have a nice day. friend.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 11:24am
oldpbnoob wrote:
FreeEnterprise wrote:
oldpbnoob wrote:
oldpbnoob wrote:
How exactly do you blackmail someone by threatening to expose them for something that is now public knowledge? | ? |
Well, clearly this guy has a problem with young women... And never in history have nefarious people who know that someone has a sex problem used that to gain influence or blackmail them...
oh wait... Yes... yes they have...
I guess you think he wouldn't do something that stupid after yesterday... oh wait, clearly he would since yesterday happened from his stupid decisions... | I'll speak slower so you can understand.
How can the media report that he was a blackmail risk until he admitted that the did it? Doing so prior would be biased. And once he admitted he did it, he is no longer a blackmail risk. It actually goes to show how unbiased the media is in the fact that they waited until he admitted he did it. Had they called him a blackmail risk prior to his admittance would have been akin to declaring someone guilty without a trial.
And isnt Christianity all about giving people the benefit of a doubt and not casting judgement on other? Isnt that for God to to do? As mentioned, he is not your elected representative. He has not broken any laws that I am aware of. And frankly, his personal life is none of our freaking business. |
I'm not the one with the "understanding" problem.
We were talking about the news articles AFTER he admitted what he did. Go back and READ the thread...
AFTER he admitted he is a HUGE LIAR, and has sent pornography over state lines. He is now clearly a perfect target to anyone who wants a congressman in his pocket as all they have to do is drop a pretty young woman in front of him and they will get him.
HE HAS NO MORAL CHARACTER.
He is CORRUPT. (of course in your comments that isn't "breaking any laws"...)
Having a completely corrupt member of congress is our business, as he is a "public servant" who clearly only cares about himself.
I did find the video below interesting as I consider why people would say that it is none of our business, and who cares if he is a corrupt lying politician. Clearly that is one of the "values" that the left holds dear!
http://www.breitbart.tv/salons-joan-walsh-weiner-made-me-look-stupid/ - http://www.breitbart.tv/salons-joan-walsh-weiner-made-me-look-stupid/
Let us look at the impact of my Christian views on this discussion... Did Christ die for his sins... Clearly and he would have done that if wiener were the only man on earth! But, does that mean we should ignore his choices in life? Of course not, we should look at the fruit of people and see if they produce good fruit or bad fruit, and that is what shows "who" we belong to...
I would rather a person who is "trying" to lead a good and pure life as my public servant than a person who has no regard for honesty even when caught lying continues to lie...
"no man can serve two masters"... comes to mind.
James 3
1 Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. 2 We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check.
John 8
2Early the next morning he came again to the temple. All the people came to him. He sat down and taught them.
3The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman to Jesus. They had caught her having sex with a man who was not her husband. They made the woman stand in front of them.
4They said, `Teacher, this woman has committed adultery. She was caught doing it.
5The law of Moses tells us that the people who do that should be killed with stones. What do you say?'
6They said this to see what Jesus would do, because they wanted to find something wrong with him. Jesus bent down and wrote on the ground with his finger.
7They kept on asking him. He stood up and said to them, `The one among you who has never done any wrong thing may throw the first stone at her.'
8And Jesus bent down again and wrote on the ground.
9When the people heard what he said, they went out, one by one. The oldest one went out first. Jesus was left alone with the woman in front of him.
10Jesus looked up and said to her, `Woman, where are the people? Has no one judged you?'
11She said, `No one, Sir.' Jesus said, `I also do not judge you. Go, and do no wrong thing again.'
Now the Bible doesn't say, but this was a mob ready to stone this woman, and mobs (liberals) get their power from groups where they can destroy.
What do you think that Jesus wrote on the ground that caused this mob ready to stone this woman to stop their vicious attack on her?...
I think he wrote the names of the people that these mobsters had sinned with on the ground. Starting with the oldest. And I bet the list was long...
As a mob doesn't disperse until you pick each member out individually and show them THEIR issues.
But, notice what Jesus says, "I also do not judge you, go and do no wrong thing again."
He was teaching us a lesson on forgiveness. He could have judged her, but life is a series of choices... judgement for those choices from God comes at the END of your life... Not before.
But, here on earth we have society and rules of law, that are set up and should keep our society in check, it is what keeps congressman from having child harems in their homes...
God's judgement will come for each of us (some sooner rather than later as we never know the time we will die, and odds are someone on this board dies every few years). At that point our choices (to be children of God or not) will result in our judgement. This isn't "mean" or hatespeech it is a fact. Sad thing is, even if you don't believe in God, you still have to face that judgement...
And being a "good" person has nothing to do with your eternity. "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God"
The entire passage of Romans 3 ties in with this discussion...
Romans 3
God’s Faithfulness 1 What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision? 2 Much in every way! First of all, the Jews have been entrusted with the very words of God.
3 What if some were unfaithful? Will their unfaithfulness nullify God’s faithfulness? 4 Not at all! Let God be true, and every human being a liar. As it is written:
“So that you may be proved right when you speak and prevail when you judge.” #fen-NIV-27996a - a ]'>[ #fen-NIV-27996a - a ]
5 But if our unrighteousness brings out God’s righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? (I am using a human argument.) 6 Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world? 7 Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?” 8 Why not say—as some slanderously claim that we say—“Let us do evil that good may result”? Their condemnation is just!
No One Is Righteous 9 What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin. 10 As it is written:
“There is no one righteous, not even one; 11 there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. 12 All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.” #fen-NIV-28004b - b ]'>[ #fen-NIV-28004b - b ] 13 “Their throats are open graves; their tongues practice deceit.” #fen-NIV-28005c - c ]'>[ #fen-NIV-28005c - c ] “The poison of vipers is on their lips.” #fen-NIV-28005d - d ]'>[ #fen-NIV-28005d - d ] 14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.” #fen-NIV-28006e - e ]'>[ #fen-NIV-28006e - e ] 15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood; 16 ruin and misery mark their ways, 17 and the way of peace they do not know.” #fen-NIV-28009f - f ]'>[ #fen-NIV-28009f - f ] 18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.” #fen-NIV-28010g - g ]'>[ #fen-NIV-28010g - g ]
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
Righteousness Through Faith 21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in #fen-NIV-28014h - h ]'> [ #fen-NIV-28014h - h ] Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, #fen-NIV-28017i - i ]'> [ #fen-NIV-28017i - i ] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
27 Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? No, because of the law that requires faith. 28 For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. 29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30 since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 11:53am
FreeEnterprise wrote:
Now the Bible doesn't say, but this was a mob ready to stone this woman, and mobs (liberals) get their power from groups where they can destroy. |
So, in your opinion, those wishing to convict and stone the woman in John 8 were liberals?
And you don't see the irony, at all here, of you posting John 8, Jesus's lesson on forgiveness in the place of judgement, in the same thread (and even same post) you said things like:
FreeEnterprise wrote:
HE HAS NO MORAL CHARACTER. He is CORRUPT. |
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 11:55am
What does the Torah say about this?
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 12:05pm
agentwhale007 wrote:
FreeEnterprise wrote:
Now the Bible doesn't say, but this was a mob ready to stone this woman, and mobs (liberals) get their power from groups where they can destroy. |
So, in your opinion, those wishing to convict and stone the woman in John 8 were liberals?
And you don't see the irony, at all here, of you posting John 8, Jesus's lesson on forgiveness in the place of judgement, in the same thread (and even same post) you said things like:
FreeEnterprise wrote:
HE HAS NO MORAL CHARACTER.
He is CORRUPT. |
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And as usual, you don't see the point.
What was the mob going to do to the woman?...
KILL HER.
That is very different from expecting a sitting congressman to resign when confronted with the FACT that said person is a liar, and corrupt.
I never said weiner should be stoned, or even given a paper cut...
Notice how one example the person is DEAD and my critique is only saying he should not be a public servant anymore.
That isn't "judging" him... God will do that when weiners meets God for his day of judgement, as we all will.
He admitted to his wrongdoing and lies. It is clear that he is corrupt. Corrupt public servants should not be in office.
They shouldn't be killed for their corruption... I'm not even asking for him to go to jail. But, he shouldn't be a public servant anymore.
Please point out the "irony" of my view as it has no bearing on a mob KILLING a woman for her sin, when they were all sinners as well, and many scholars conject that each member of the "mob" were also guilty of the exact same crime...
As many of us are also guilty of doing things like the congressman did.
But, there are only 435 congressman, and I think we should hold them to a higher level of personal conduct. You know lying to everyone over and over for a week kind of disqualifies you for that kind of office I should think.
You want irony... Watch this video of Weiner from the healthcare debate...
He is now the poster boy for liberal democrat congressman who lie and manipulate facts to fit their criteria regardless of the truth, and then don't quit when they admit their wrongdoing...
Clearly there is a huge moral difference between the liberal democratic party and the RHINO republican/republican party.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 12:16pm
As to the question of "how would Jesus know these peoples sins to be able to write them on the ground?"...
Well, we already have a similar example in John 4 the story of the woman at the well.
Now Jews, and Samaritans didn't comingle at all during this time period. And the time of day people went to the well was in the MORNING or evening, as it was HOT, hard work. But, the outcasts of society who didn't want to deal with ridicule would go during the heat of the day so they didn't have to face the torment of the other people in the town since the well was a meeting place for everyone. (that background is necessary for the story to make sense).
John 4
Jesus Talks With a Samaritan Woman 1 Now Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that he was gaining and baptizing more disciples than John— 2 although in fact it was not Jesus who baptized, but his disciples. 3 So he left Judea and went back once more to Galilee.
4 Now he had to go through Samaria. 5 So he came to a town in Samaria called Sychar, near the plot of ground Jacob had given to his son Joseph. 6 Jacob’s well was there, and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It was about noon.
7 When a Samaritan woman came to draw water, Jesus said to her, “Will you give me a drink?” 8 (His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.)
9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?” (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans. #fen-NIV-26166a - a ]'>[ #fen-NIV-26166a - a ])
10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”
11 “Sir,” the woman said, “you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? 12 Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his livestock?”
13 Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, 14 but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”
15 The woman said to him, “Sir, give me this water so that I won’t get thirsty and have to keep coming here to draw water.”
16 He told her, “Go, call your husband and come back.”
17 “I have no husband,” she replied.
Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband. 18 The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.”
19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”
21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”
25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”
26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”
The Disciples Rejoin Jesus 27 Just then his disciples returned and were surprised to find him talking with a woman. But no one asked, “What do you want?” or “Why are you talking with her?”
28 Then, leaving her water jar, the woman went back to the town and said to the people, 29 “Come, see a man who told me everything I ever did. Could this be the Messiah?” 30 They came out of the town and made their way toward him.
31 Meanwhile his disciples urged him, “Rabbi, eat something.”
32 But he said to them, “I have food to eat that you know nothing about.”
33 Then his disciples said to each other, “Could someone have brought him food?”
34 “My food,” said Jesus, “is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work. 35 Don’t you have a saying, ‘It’s still four months until harvest’? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest. 36 Even now the one who reaps draws a wage and harvests a crop for eternal life, so that the sower and the reaper may be glad together. 37 Thus the saying ‘One sows and another reaps’ is true. 38 I sent you to reap what you have not worked for. Others have done the hard work, and you have reaped the benefits of their labor.”
Many Samaritans Believe 39 Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman’s testimony, “He told me everything I ever did.” 40 So when the Samaritans came to him, they urged him to stay with them, and he stayed two days. 41 And because of his words many more became believers.
42 They said to the woman, “We no longer believe just because of what you said; now we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this man really is the Savior of the world.”
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 09 June 2011 at 12:19pm
FreeEnterprise wrote:
I never said weiner should be stoned, or even given a paper cut... |
So judgement only counts as judgement if physical harm is involved?
I don't remember that being in the bible.
I do, however, know of verses like Luke 6:37. For some reason that verse doesn't say "Judge not and ye shall not be judged. Condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned . . ." with an addendum that says "Unless nobody's going to get physically hurt, then go right ahead."
Notice how one example the person is DEAD and my critique is only saying he should not be a public servant anymore. |
I agree that he should have resigned. And I still think he should.
However, I'm not shouting about his moral character either. He sinned. He is flawed, as every man is. And he openly admitted his sin of lying to the public, and asked for forgiveness.
Please point out the "irony" of my view as it has no bearing on a mob KILLING a woman for her sin, |
The lesson is presented in John as a lesson on judgement and forgiveness, not a lesson on killing. The outcome of the judgement is not the issue. It's the judgement itself that Jesus is taking issue with.
The lesson is presented as an angry mob with a prostitute, wishing to condemn her. Jesus addressed the crowd, saying they were all guilty, and that none of them have the right to act as a judge against her. Jesus doesn't even mention death or killing. He mentions condemnation and judgement in John 8: 10-11.
So, again, you see no irony in a biblical lesson presented in the form of Jesus addressing a crowd ready to judge and condemn a woman, when you start off a post with:
FreeEnterprise wrote:
HE HAS NO MORAL CHARACTER. He is CORRUPT. |
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