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Topic: In N Out
Posted By: stratoaxe
Subject: In N Out
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 3:59am
So as those of you who live in the DFW area know...we got an In N Out.
 
Now, a little personal factoid about myself, I'm a food lover. Like, I'm one of those people who would make a road trip halfway across the country just to try something new. I'm just happy I have a pretty good metabolism or else I'd be 400 pounds ordering pizza through a door I could no longer fit through. Seriously, when I go somewhere new, the first thing I do is start looking up online food reviews of the local foodplaces.
 
But one thing that I've consistently learned from eating, is that, in essence, a burger is a burger. They don't vary or differ a bunch, just small details that tend to separate them out along personal preference. That's why I see the whole "gourmet burger" movement as a complete fail. In the end, you could chop up kobe beef, load on some white truffles, and drop a 200 dollar price tag and there are still going to be people that prefer McDonald's.
 
So I've always been skeptical of the hype surrounding In N Out. I dated a girl who yapped about it nonstop, and I have a friend from California who thinks that they cook the end all burger. Seriously, people in Texas were waiting FIVE HOURS in front of the Frisco location, a lady arriving 5 days early and staying at a hotel just to get double cheeseburger. There was,on average, a two-three hour wait to get your burger the first several days of its operation.
 
So, skepticism aside, I made the hour and a half trek from my place to Frisco to give it a shot. I took my Cali buddy who looked as though he was about to lose his virginity to Megan Fox on a bed made of bacon, and as time went on, I got less and less enthusiastic about the whole trip. Finally we get there, we wait about ten minutes or so in line, and then place our order.
 
Now to their defense, it was the best service I've ever gotten in a fast food joint. Servers were almost cultishly cheery, the cook team was running like crazy, and everyone seemed to have a really professional work demeanor. The food made it out almost crazy fast, which was great because I was starving.
 
My opinion-? No big deal. I'd rate their burgers better than McDonald's, maybe slightly better than Burger King, but not as good as Whataburger. Nowhere near what you'd get at Red Robin or Fuddruckers, but I didn't really expect that either.
 
My biggest issue was the fries. I ordered regular fries and also animal style, which is basically just fries with melted cheese, bacon, and thousand island. But any way you dress them, they're awful. No saltiness, no crunch, just a kind of mushy bland stick. And seriously...the thousand island is disgusting, and this place is in love with it.
 
So hopefully I've started a flame war for those of you that took the time to read this. I'd love to hear some rabid In N Out fans explain to me why this place has garnered the near religious hype that you see with it. Otherwise, just drop your favorite burger place.
 
TL; DR - In N Out is overrated, give me your favorite burger joint. 


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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 4:03am

Reading this tells me I need to go to Fuddruckers and Sonic also soon. I love both of em.



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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 4:18am
Burgers are fresh. Cheaper than a sit down joint.

Fries suck.


Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 4:31am
That being said, I think 5 guys is better. But they charge way too much, for what your getting.


Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 6:22am
Originally posted by impulse418 impulse418 wrote:

That being said, I think 5 guys is better. But they charge way too much, for what your getting.
 
That's actually next on my list. There's one in Fort Worth, not very far from me.
 
Originally posted by ammolord ammolord wrote:

Reading this tells me I need to go to Fuddruckers and Sonic also soon. I love both of em.

Sonic must vary depending on where you live. Everyone I know loves them, but where I'm from, they're overpriced, oversalted, and not that great. Plus they never seem to get that whole "ice to drink" ratio right, and their drinks are way overpriced anyway. I think what usually draws me to sonic are the sides, and sometimes I get in the mood for a couple of Frito wraps and an ocean water,
 
Fuddruckers is spot on though. Love their stuff.
 
I think as fast food burgers go, Whataburger is probaby my favorite. A triple meat Whataburger with mayo, jalapenos, and bacon is my heart attack on a platter weakness.


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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 7:16am
I've never been to a Sonic that I would have called 'overpriced.'

In fact, if there was ever a place in my book that lived up to the hype, it was Sonic. The nearest one is over an hour away from me, but its kind of on the way when we go visit the inlaws- so we'll stop in every now and again. I've been to 5 of their locations- the 2 in NY, one near Mt. Rushmore, one in London Ohio, and the 5th I forget- and they were all excellent.

There's a 5 guys 2.4 miles from me, very very good food, but for a burger joint the one here is a tad pricey, so its not a regular stop for us.

I think amongst what could be called 'fast food' high atop my list is the burgers made by A&W. We went there somewhere in Oregon and it was absolutely fantastic. Red Robin isn't bad, but its nothing like the A&W I had.

For the low end of the spectrum, I do enjoy a whopper or a big mac every now and again- but not that often, and it isn't because of what they are- but because I've HAD better, and I WANT better from my fast food places.

I prefer all of them to Wendys.

And I've yet to get to In N Out, but I'll keep your evaluation in mind.


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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 8:07am
Fuddruckers is way over priced also.

In-N-Out is perfect. Fresh burgers, and get get a complete meal for 6 bucks and change.


Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 8:22am
Out here in Nebraska we have a chain called "Runza". Burgers are far better than Mc D's and BK, and priced competively. Also burgers are fresh ground and hand pattied, no pre shaped 'frozen' patties. Thier fries are top notch, and 'frings' a combo of onion rings and fries is one of my staples.

Our west I used to like "Carl Jr's", but once became part of the 'Hardies' chain quality dropped considerably.

5 Guys is not entrenched here at all, pricey but good, not worth the gas to get to the few in the area.

The national fast food chains are almost over saturating the market, as is Jimmie John's, JJ's is far better than Subway, but has no hot sandwiches, too many and a few are 'failing'.

And I really do miss the old A&W, today's immatation just does not compare.

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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 8:38am
You can't beat Subways $5 subs.

Never had Jimmy Johns


Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 8:51am
I love a good burger, best burger around cincy was at fuddruckers (with the egg on it, they rarely offer it... but it was amazing).
 
Never had an in and out.
 
but, when the rankings came out and 5 guys won nationally, and we have a couple here in town, I figured I would try it out.
 
NOT impressed. very expensive to eat in a lousy atmosphere with a burger that is just... Ok.
 
Fries... Ok as well, nothing amazing about them.
 
Best fries I have ever had... Penn Station, and VERY consistant, always good. (club with provolone instead of swiss and no mayo is unreal btw)
 
I love Red Robin as well, their burgers/fries are very good.
 
Best "topped" fries. Longhorn steakhouse, their chili cheese fries are unbelievable, about a gazillion calories, but still, bets chili cheese fries EVER.
 
I still yearn for this place that I used to go to in NC called Fat Daddy's. We used to sneak out of school and drive over there for lunch almost everyday. They had a $5.00 student special that was a big cheese burger (with a toasted and buttered sweet bun) large fries, and large drink deal that was by far the best burger I've ever eaten. Huge toppers bar (like fuddruckers) and big screen TV's. Course that was over 20 years ago, so no clue if they are still around and still good.
 
 


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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 9:14am
As an east-coaster I think I'm required by law to bring up the fact that I think Five Guys is the best commercially available non-sit-down burger place around.

I've never been to an In-N-Out, but they do have a good reputation, if not a slightly hyped one. 

Oh, and Jimmy Johns, while maybe not the best overall sub sandwich, easily has the best bread you can get at a sub shop. This is either chain or non-chain, I don't think I've been to a sub shop with better bread than JJs. 


Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 9:31am
A Five Guys opened not too far from work but I've yet to go there. In all honesty if I want a good burger I just make it myself.

Also, Whale, you need to stop in Memphis and eat a sub from Super Sub Shop. They're very close to the U of M campus and they easily have the best bread. Infinitely better than JJs. http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/50/541502/restaurant/East-Memphis/Super-Submarine-Sandwich-Shops-Memphis - Here is their listing on urbanspoon

I think I'll go get a 12" super sub for lunch today. I can't talk about that place with anyone without developing an insatiable craving.


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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 9:34am

For subs...

 
If you haven't had Firehouse subs, you haven't had a real sub yet... The new york steamer crazy good. Firehouse Hero sub is also amazing. The hook and ladder... mmm.


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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 9:37am
No, Firehouse is not a real sub. Nothing can beat the local shop here. Come try it if you don't believe me.

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Posted By: God
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 9:38am

I tend to enjoy Claim Jumper's Widowmaker Burger,

Carl Straus' El Fuego Burger (which I am saddened to learn may have been removed from their menu forever,) Carl's Jr. Famous Star.



In and Out is good every once i a while. Lately I have been more fond of their grilled cheese over their burger. However if feeling extra hungry a 4X4 works nicely.



I am not big on fries. Dont need all the extra salt, carbs, and they are overpriced.



Fudruckers and Red Robin barely make the list of acceptable burger joints.



Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 10:04am
Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

In all honesty if I want a good burger I just make it myself.
 
This, pretty much. Some charcoal and hamburger meat and I'll blow away any chain.
 
Originally posted by Free Enterprise Free Enterprise wrote:

Firehouse Hero sub is also amazing.
 
I can get into Firehouse. Probably my favorite sub place, though the one they put in Burleson is right across form a Charlie's, so I never make it. Say what you want about Charlie's, but their bacon, cheese, and ranch french fries along with a mushroom cheese steak is top notch.
 


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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 12:20pm
Firehouse is OK. I don't really count them as the same kind of sub with a JJs or Sobix, though, as you sort of have to sit down and eat it with a fork/knife because of the sogginess of steamed meat. Also, the steaming can really make things bland at times.

The hot sauce options are nice, though.


Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 12:29pm
My favorite is the Buffalo Burger at Ruby Tuesdays... Delicious.

As far as FF burgers go, I'm either going to have to go with BK's Double Whopper with cheese, or A&W's Teen Burger. I love the fries from both of those places, and A&W root beer is great.


Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 2:52pm

Five Guys is by far the best burger around. Hands down. Fuddruckers is alright, and Sonic is overpriced/overrated.



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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 3:43pm
Strato, I was at the one in Allen. Well was in the shopping complex but couldn't find it and wasn't that hungry. So I skipped it. One should be opening in Arlington sometime soonish.

I'm not a huge burger person so I can't judge properly. 5 guys is decent, but I feel awful afterwards. I love coming home from Indiana to get some whataburger. Jimmy johns is good but I like subway better. That's probably because I like hot food.


Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 3:55pm
I can't remember directly, but I think Ruby Tuesday's had a Chili and Jalepeno burger that was just the bomb.  Can't find it anywhere anymore.  Worst food I've ever had was at Steak 'n Shake.  Horribly overpriced and the burgers are Happy Meal sized.  Their fries are like toothpicks.  Steakburger my @$$.
 
I've never come across a Sonic's or Red Robin yet.  All the Hot 'n Now (Rotten Cow) places have dried up and blown away before I had a chance to try them, not that I was in any hurry to do so...


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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 4:02pm
Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

 Steakburger my @$$.


The only advantage SnS has is that it is open 24 hours. After last call it's one of the only burgers you can get, apart from McDonald's. 


Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 4:10pm
Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:

Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

 Steakburger my @$$.


The only advantage SnS has is that it is open 24 hours. After last call it's one of the only burgers you can get, apart from McDonald's. 
I'd rather do Taco Bell that late.  If that isn't open, a gas station burrito.  SnS just isn't worth the consideration regardless of their hourly availability.

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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 4:10pm
I have a small restaurant near me (The Manor House) and they make "The Churchill", a very large hamburger with bacon, damn good...my last experience with In N Out was in Ontario, California and it was terrible.  The bun was stale and the fries were cold and greasy. 

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Posted By: God
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 7:12pm
Oh yeah. Forgot about Ruby Tuesdays. I will have to go back if I got to Vegas this summer.

Thanks for the reminder.




Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 7:13pm
Originally posted by agentwhale007 agentwhale007 wrote:


Originally posted by StormyKnight StormyKnight wrote:

 Steakburger my @$$.

The only advantage SnS has is that it is open 24 hours. After last call it's one of the only burgers you can get, apart from McDonald's. 


SnS is the very definition of overpriced and overrated. And agreed on the fries...they suck.

I'm just happy that I live in an area with all night Whataburgers. If my options were taco bell, SnS, and McD's I'd just skip late night eating. Which, in retrospect, would probably be better for my health ;)

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Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 7:54pm
We have a place around here that has a burger made out of bacon...

Havent tried it yet, but hear its deadly.


Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 9:24pm
I heard about a burger that actually has bacon mixed in with the meat before cooking.  I wish I could remember.  Sounds tasty!

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Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 9:54pm
Chik-fil-a  is hard to beat when it comes to fast food customer service.  Are there any other fast food joints that will come to your table, take your trash and fetch you a refill?  Hardees has the best fries.  

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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 10:01pm
Originally posted by GroupB GroupB wrote:

Chik-fil-a  is hard to beat when it comes to fast food customer service.  

Also hard to beat on http://news.change.org/stories/yes-chick-fil-a-says-we-explicitly-do-not-like-same-sex-couples - hating the ol' gays.  


Posted By: GroupB
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 10:05pm
Hard, beat, 4 letter synonym for chicken. lol

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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 June 2011 at 11:24pm
I refuse to spend money at Chik-fil-a.

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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 12:07am
Outback also has some burger that has blooming onion pieces on it. Definitely worth trying.

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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 12:16am
In-N-Out

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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 1:22am
i've never been to steak and shake sober


Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 1:26am
Five Guys is probably the best burger I've had at a fast foody kinda place.  

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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 7:16am
I think its Ruby Tuesday's that makes an Alpine Swiss burger that is phenomenal. I'll argue all day about sonic being overrated. their burgers can't stack up against some of the others mentioned here, but they're not bad at all, and I've never left there feeling like I've overpaid.



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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 7:55am
if talking fast food chicken.
 
Chick fil a is by far the best tasting out there. Their new "spicy" chicken nuggets or strips are the best I have ever had.
 
The service is also by far better than any other "fast" food places. The employees clearly enjoy working there, and their focus is serving customers. The stores are always spotless, the food always hot, and the drinks are in cups that hold the cold all day...
 
To hate them for having designing their business around Christian principles is antithesis of tolerance...


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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 9:16am
Originally posted by bravecoward bravecoward wrote:

i've never been to steak and shake sober

I'm struggling to remember the last time I was at one sober as well. 

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

I'll argue all day about sonic being overrated. 

And I would agree, with one caveat: Their breakfast sandwiches are pretty good. And always a good temp. But for their normal stuff, like burgers and such, I don't think I've ever had anything there that felt like it was hot enough. 

Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

To hate them for having designing their business around Christian principles is antithesis of tolerance...

I would fashion this to be an incorrect statement. I'm not saying that they're not allowed to donate money to anti-gay organizations, or to structure their personally owned charitable organizations to be anti-gay. 

They're a private organization, they're absolutely allowed to do that if they want.

However, I'm also free to not spend money with them, and I'm also free to distribute information to others showing them as donating heavily to anti-gay causes, so that they too can vote with their wallets. 

I'm confused as to how this is intolerance. If anything this is quintessential free market. 


Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 9:30am
Originally posted by FreeEnterprise FreeEnterprise wrote:

if talking fast food chicken.
 
Chick fil a is by far the best tasting out there. Their new "spicy" chicken nuggets or strips are the best I have ever had.
 
The service is also by far better than any other "fast" food places. The employees clearly enjoy working there, and their focus is serving customers. The stores are always spotless, the food always hot, and the drinks are in cups that hold the cold all day...
 
To hate them for having designing their business around Christian principles is antithesis of tolerance...

And despite the customer centric business practices you describe, the way they have treated a couple friends of mine was enough to drive me away.

One, a friend who is atheist kept it to himself while working there until one day his coworkers discovered his beliefs. He quit a week later due to harassment from his christian coworkers. The other is a lesbian who they refused to hire because she was honest.

I'm sorry, did you just claim I'm intolerant? You're right, I'm not tolerant of discrimination at all, FE.


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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 11:09am
A) Chic-fil-a is absolutely delicious, they're the only fast food-esque place that we have on campus. I love their nuggets/fries/salads


BUT, they are not the best fast food place for chicken biscuits/tenders/nuggets. 



Wins, hands down.

B) You people miss out on all the good fast food places apparently too. As far as burgers go, the only legit "fast food" place that is worth going to is Cookout.

Great burgers for being drive-thru. Good fries, amazing sweet tea and milkshakes. And they are super cheap. Even their sides and stuff are awesome. In college towns they stay open till 4 am on Thurs/Fri/Sat. I lived off their chili cheese fries freshman year.




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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 11:38am
Ohhh yeah, I forgot about Bojangles, they are AMAZING!
 
 
But, none are in Ohio... :(


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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 1:05pm
Whale, my argument was AGAINST Sonic being overrated!

I've never once been dissatisfied by the food or drinks there, and like I can't think of a single time that I felt like I overpaid when I left.




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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 1:25pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Whale, my argument was AGAINST Sonic being overrated!

I've never once been dissatisfied by the food or drinks there, and like I can't think of a single time that I felt like I overpaid when I left.



Oh man I totally read that wrong. Mea culpa. 

Yeah, for some reason I've been underwhelmed with my Sonics experiences. The food always seems not quite hot enough for me. 

Now, when it comes to dessert, they've got some good choices. 


Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 1:29pm
Sonic is WAY overrated.

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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 2:20pm
Tails was way better.



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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 2:32pm
Odd to hear all the hating on Steak N Shake. I grew up on them and still love them to this day. I don't consider it to be overpriced, but have heard the same comment from my brother, guess I never really thought much about it. Personally, I love their string fries. Might have to drive to Findlay tonight and get a patty melt w/fries and an orange freeze since the one by us closed a couple of years ago.
 
Locally, we have KewPee with is decent. Nothing really gourmet about it. Supposedly what Dave Thomas fashioned Wendys after.


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Posted By: God
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 6:58pm
I will avoid businesses and products with whom I disagree with politically, morally, ethically, ect... despite lower costs, better service, or other.

If one disagrees with something, it doesnt make them intolerant.



Posted By: deadeye007
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 7:54pm
Wendy's had a "Spicy Baconator" back in the day, and I almost teared up when the clerk told me they no longer served it.

I have a local restaurant that has a massive Hamburger. The buns are Grilled Cheese Sandwiches, It has a huge patty, fried egg, slice of ham, onion rings, and lettuce and tomato. Its called the "Mile High" and is fantabulous.

http://www.you-made-that.com/field-tripthe-greentomato/

PS I'm having heck with the link but go to that page and scroll about halfway down if you care to see it

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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by deadeye007 deadeye007 wrote:

Wendy's had a "Spicy Baconator" back in the day, and I almost teared up when the clerk told me they no longer served it.


EFFING DAWT.


I'm not a big Wendy's person, so I don't eat there all that often (mostly because it's typically more expensive than the other FF places). I finally got a spicy baconator one time on the way home from the beach and immediately fell in love.

I went back about a week or two later, and they had stopped serving them. I have put monteray jack cheese and grilled jalapenos on about 98% of my homemade burgers since.*/**

*5 Guys will grill jalapeno slices for your burger as well, and they are DELICIOUS.

**BK had the jalapeno cheddar burger for a little while, and I also only tried that one time before they quit serving them. I'm not a fan of BK, but that thing was pretty good for a cheapo burger.

P.S. I spelled "jalapeno" as "jalepeno" 3 times before I noticed I had spelled it incorrectly while typing that post.


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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 16 June 2011 at 9:12pm
Originally posted by Kayback Kayback wrote:

Tails was way better.

Knuckles ftw.

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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 17 June 2011 at 12:04am
As far as fries, A&W > *.

Also, a relatively decent chain coney/chili dog. 


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