Øbama shuts down Ford commercial...
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Topic: Øbama shuts down Ford commercial...
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Subject: Øbama shuts down Ford commercial...
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 9:02am
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So, in case you haven't seen it, Ford has been doing some "real" world interviews with actual Ford buyers.
And one interview yeilded a message that talked about Ford NOT taking government bailouts (which can be debated as they took "special" loans).
It was a hit among conservatives, and the white house contacted Ford and they actually PULLED the ad from youtube!...
Here is one that was recorded from TV, so you can see it, now that it has been silenced by the ministry of truth...
I heard the guy interviewed on Hannity's radio show yesterday... Wow, has this guy had it rough over the past few years... He lost his dream home after his wife lost her job, they were foreclosed on (even after doing everything they could to try and save their home. They downsized, sold all of their toys, and the truck he now owns is leased for $220 a month based on Fords special financing for people in his situation...
AND yet. is he bitter? Nope, just working his tail off to try and make things better.
So Ford decided to run this commercial. Now you guys probably don't know how TV works, but as an actor/spokesperson (which is what this guy is after this started running, he is an actual owner, and those are his words, but in advertising when you are the "face" of a product like that, you get paid based on how many times the ad airs).
So by the white house clamping down on this ad... They are actually taking money out of this guys pocket...
Unreal...
But, so typical of this thin skinned administration... Course what do we expect from a community agitator like ØbamAA++?
Anyway, Ford is now saying that this was just the "rotation"... which is a pile of garbage, as the other ads dropped at the same time are all still on the air... AND still on youtube...
ONLY THIS ONE was removed...
AFTER the white house got involved.
http://detnews.com/article/20110927/OPINION03/109270322/Howes--Ford-pulls-its-ad-on-bailouts#ixzz1ZBALglDb - http://detnews.com/article/20110927/OPINION03/109270322/Howes--Ford-pulls-its-ad-on-bailouts#ixzz1ZBALglDb
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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 9:26am
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I wonder if FE keeps "
ØbamAA++ " on a notepad so he can just copy and paste it on his posts. But in that case I wonder if he has a large clipboard on his computer so he can copy and paste all of his copypasta... |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 9:40am
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The one thing he can't copy and paste? Credibility. ------------- 
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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 10:15am
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 10:15am
So was Ford under any legal obligation to pull the advertisement?
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FreeEnterprise wrote:Posted By: CHiKUN_PiMP
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 12:34pm
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That's amazing FE... can I buy some pot from you?
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 12:42pm
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Wanna get high? watch this...
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Posted By: CHiKUN_PiMP
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 1:25pm
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I am a thinking man my good sir. I prefer Nickelodeon's Rocket Power for my extreme sports intake.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 1:31pm
| Also could this be a truth in advertising issue, where since they took loans they are misrepresenting themselves to the public? I don't know your advertising guidelines, but that could be an issue here. |
Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 1:40pm
Ford didn't take the same bailout package that Chrysler and GM took. They openly lobbied with Chrysler and GM for the bailout with the agreement that if Ford ever needed the bailout they could have it, essentially agreeing that some would be set aside for them, but they never ended up cashing the check, so to speak. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 2:26pm
| Yeah I know they went a different route, just wasn't sure if the problem might have been with the wording and deceiving the stupid masses. Not saying that is it, just curious if that could be an issue there. Doesn't really sound like it, so probably not that. |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 2:39pm
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There are claims by Ford executives that there were phone calls from the White House, and then the claim about just the rotation schedule, where is the truth, I would bet somewhere in the middle.
Now with the UAW calling for strikes at Ford Dearborne a covert attempt to 'level' the playing field between the failing GM production facilities, and the more successfull Ford facilities, there seems to be some merit in the administration 'presure' for Ford to play nice and concede. The Admin and UAW have a vested interest to 'punish' Ford, and prop up GM, so the UAW strike threat is a leverage tool. If I were GM I would immediately move production to 'right to work' states, and let Detroit, UAW and the Administration pound salt. I still find it interesting that in order for a worker to have 'rights' he must pay a monthly 'fee' to work in a Union shop, and commit his 'fee' whether he agrees or not, to all of the Unions political ideology. Now the Feds go after the mob for tactics like this, but yet are part and parcell to the unions doing the exact same thing. Nebraska is a right to work state, and pay and benifits are on par with Union states without the Union shakedowns. ------------- 
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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 5:50pm
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Buying a inferior product, only because it was made here? That's American? That sounds like socialism/communism. I'll spend my hard earned money on a Nissan. |
Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 5:58pm
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Toyota is made in America and a superior product.
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 6:02pm
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Kinda like buying a Lada during the Soviet era. A Great piece of Soviet engineering and pride.
My KIA Sorento is made in Georgia, USA. -------------
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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 6:14pm
Actually, regardless of the argument, Ford is putting out great products now.
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 6:23pm
Although it may be silly nationalism, please explain how it's either socialism or communism?
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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 6:30pm
I'm sure nationalism was the word I was looking for. I have heard all 3 terms thrown around so much, I can't even remember. Thanks whale.  |
Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 6:32pm
Ford makes a great frame and body. I will give them that. But seeing as I don't live where it snows, nor do I offroad. It doesn't really matter to me. |
Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 6:37pm
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My 2000 Ranger held up well for having 200k+ miles on it. The clutch was just about dead when I traded it. I can't blame that on Ford though. The things that died on it over time were: The two valves and accompanying sensors that let it the engine idle blew up, those cost about $350 to replace. The thing that sits on the rear axle and spins so you know how fast you're going died, that was $35. That's about it for the five years I had it. Oh, and the rubber seal on the third brake-light dry rotted in the sun and leaked water into the cabin. I learned that one day when it rained, and it was raining inside my car too. Some automotive caulk from AutoZone fixed that.
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Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 7:24pm
NOT in my opinion. I have owned 9 cars and trucks and 6 motorcycles. For pretty much all corners of the BIG pond. Currently on my driveway reside vehicals from Ford(x2), Toyota, Kia, Honda, Kawasaki, AND Yamaha(x2). So i consider myself pretty well rounded i drive the vehicles that best suite my needs. I have no brand loyalty I have no "nationalism" i am CANADIAN only road going vehicle out here designed and built in canada is the Can-Am Spyder(witch i kinda want  ).Of the vehicles on the drive the one with the most milage hardest use least issues Happens to be the -2007 Ford Focus. It has 160,000 on the odometer and has needed brakes a wheel bearing and a alternator in that time. -The toyota is a 2006 Matrix with 90,000 on the clock and has paint peeling on the bumper has needed a Warrenty repair (ECM replaced) for a intermitted no start and is due for a break job. -My current car a 2011 F150 is by FAR the nicest of the bunch to drive but with only 2300 on the odometer and being only a few weeks old its way too new to say as is the 2011 KIA Rio 5. In my own history the most UNreliable vehicals i have had were 1994 F250 Diesel. It was a reliable truck UNTILL i built it up for drag racing and then it blew peices up on a reg basis 2004 VW Jetta TDI. Great comfy driving car BUT had issues keeping belts on the car the fuel pump failed plastics were always breaking the drivers window fell into the track and the coolant temp sensor failed. The MOST reliable -1996 Ford Ranger 4x4. This thing had 285,000 on the odo was beat to hell on a daily basis and only ever needed a few small repairs (IAC motor, steering box, u-joints, breaks and tires). And it still was driving fine though the trans was starting to take longer to shift. -1986 VW Golf Diesel. This one had 390,000 and needed near nothing in repairs other than a park break cable, break lines, an exhaust, and a radio. Oh had to put a battery in it once as well lol. But it was no longer drivable when i sent it away (the front left wheel bearings failed). Of the bikes all are JAP built and all have been mostly trouble free. Both Yamahas have over 60,000kms one is in need of a trans rebuild. The Honda has 17,000 on it and has been trouble free just oil and tires, And the kawi has 23,000 and has needed a few electrical repairs and a chain and tires. ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 7:32pm
| I still think BearClaws experiences aren't average. Toyota are (or at least were) pretty incredible. |
Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 28 September 2011 at 10:46pm
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There's a reason Toyota and Honda do well in the American market, and it's that they're generally reliable. Certainly more so than American cars throughout the '90s-2000s. Personally, I haven't seen an American car that suits my needs, although if I was looking at pickup trucks I might. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: deadeye007
Date Posted: 29 September 2011 at 12:03am
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I traded in my 2002 Honda Civic ex when it had 77,000 miles on it in 2006. I drove the heck out of that car. Always pulled the e-brake on rainy days for 360s, reverse doughnuts, setting the e-brake and smoking the tires, the occasional rides through a cow pasture, and the occasional jump. Even on everyday driving I was aggressive and wound the RPMs up. Needless to say I gave the car heck and it held up fine. The only thing I replaced on the car was the battery, and the rest held up great. I don't know if an equivalent GM (Chevy Cavalier)would have survived. ------------- Face it guys, common sense is a form of wealth and we're surrounded by poverty.-Strato |
Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 29 September 2011 at 4:05am
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I have a buddy with an 07 Tundra, has had quite a few problems once it started hitting the 70K mark, and I know for a fact that he's religious about maintenance. That said, cars are just personal preference. I've had nothing but good luck out of my Fords, and they've never seen a garage stay for anything major. My first real car, my Mustang GT, was pretty modified and I drove it as you would imagine a 17 year old would drive a car with 400 hp, and it lasted me until I sold it with 125K on the odometer. My Chrysler products (Jeep and a Ram 1500) were total lemons. Nothing but trouble the whole time I had them. Even at that, my parents both own Chryslers now (Challenger R/T and a Hemi Ram) and they love them. I think on the whole auto engineering has a come a long way. For the most part, if you take care of them, a new car should last you well over 150K, and the economy cars should get you over 200K. Pretty good considering alot of cars in the 60's and 70's were due for an engine rebuild at 75-100K. ------------- 
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Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 29 September 2011 at 8:20am
I participate in my school's car club and a kid there has a Cavy as his daily that he beats on quite badly and runs in autocrosses. It's thing is toasting wheel bearings, but other than that it seems to hold up pretty darn well. There are a couple other Cavys that come and go, and no other seems to have the wheel bearing issue, so it seems strangely linked to his car. Not saying that his experience is normal (for better or worse), but it seems to be a pretty reliable ride for him. ------------- 
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 29 September 2011 at 1:10pm
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I would never want to drive a 'new' GM or Chrysler. ------------- 
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Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 29 September 2011 at 4:59pm
How so? If ya read up the Ford focus has had good reviews for a long time and Ford Ranger's have always been known for reliability. And the F-Series trucks have been at the top since day one???? Old VWs are KNOWN for their bullet proof reliability and newer VWs are known for have many little quirks (AKA small repairs). And contrary to popular Stereotype Toyotas have had quality issues in the past and present (Frames breakage on the tacomas due to poor steel quality, Head gaskets on the 3.0L v6, Fuel peddle issues across the board). So just cause my experiance does not conform to populare STEREOTYPES does not make it any less valid. Hell i sure we can all think of popular stereotypes that dont hold true in the real world. The Toyota matrix we have has been a good little car and side by side i dont see the Ford Focuse as being "inferior quality" in any way. The Focuse has got much more power AND gets 2mpg better fuel mileage on average with a bigger engine. Both cars have been reliable but the toyota has had more COSTLY repairs. On top of that the toyota has FAR fewer options and cost MORE than the Ford to purchase. Toyota has made some GREAT cars but equally so has FORD, GM, DODGE, NISSAN, HONDA, and so on. Every manufacture out there has had there good cars and there crap. But too be honest in todays market with todays ease of info a car company CAN NOT survive with a poor product so in all honesty most cars today are gona be pretty reliable they have too be. Oh and those issues i posted i know of as i am a licensed mechanic for a living and have been for over 10years. Most of that time i have spent fixing over the road Heavy haul trucks and buses but have spent much time under the hood all kinds of cars professhionaly (charelton car care) and on the side out of my own garage. I have also run a large truck shop for a year and a bit before i decided i hate paper work and shifted back to fixing em fulltime. ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |