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Topic: Portuguese Military Will Side With Rioters
Posted By: impulse418
Subject: Portuguese Military Will Side With Rioters
Date Posted: 16 October 2011 at 7:11pm
Military admit harden manifestations of discontent and has scored a national meeting to October 22.

The National Association of Sergeants (ANS) today reacted to the new austerity measures announced yesterday by the Government and that will be part of the State Budget for 2012.

The economy, President of the NSA says that "long ago" that the military is "to prepare a series of initiatives." And "if there was any doubt in the minds of gullible, claims Passos Coelho lay down any doubt."

Antonio Coelho Lima recalled that "months ago, in opposition, Passos Coelho said Socrates, prime minister at the time, to cut subsidies was nonsense," adding: "We have to have memory, we can not remain dormant in well spoken conversations. "

So in the next 22 days, officers, sergeants and soldiers will hold a national meeting. "And this is not a meeting that ends in itself, as can be found other ways, whether to demonstrate whether they are unwell to reiterate the availability to those in power to find solutions to all parties," Antonio Lima Coelho notes.

And that, according to the official, the new austerity measures announced yesterday by Passos Coelho, "undermine the constitutional rights of sovereignty and even" the country, where "the cutting of subsidies is an aggravation of a situation that was already very difficult ".

"Revolutions do not announce"

Antonio Lima Coelho admits that "for ordinary people is very difficult to fail to meet their commitments, but to a soldier who is obliged to comply with the laws of the Republic is much more serious."

The military thus ensure that "serve the Portuguese people and not private institutions," and warns, "Let no one dare to think that the armed forces can be used in the repression of social upheaval that these measures may cause."

Asked about a possible hardening of the protests by the military, the Association adds that "revolutions do not announce themselves when they come, they come because they have arrived, but I hope the good of the rule of law ever such a scenario will be put "he concludes.

Recall that last month Passos Coelho was keen to stress in the speech he chose for the closing session of the Party of the People in Campo Maior, that "in Portugal, there are right to protest, no right to strike. These are rights that are enshrined in the Constitution and who have earned widespread consensus in Portugal. "

However, at the time warned the prime minister, "those who think they can shake things up in order to turn the period we are living in a war with the government," when there is "a war against the delay, the debt and waste, "they" know what we know to talk, but we also know to decide. "
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A worldwide riot is brewing. All that is needed is a spark.









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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 16 October 2011 at 7:18pm
maybe we'll hear more from steve400


Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 16 October 2011 at 10:33pm
I was surprised by how integrated into society the Portuguese military was when I was there.  They seem to be involved in a more police role than in the US or any other European nation I've been to.

That said, I'm not sure about the significance of this.  It's basically the military saying "We don't wanna give up any money!"


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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 17 October 2011 at 2:31pm
And this is why it is utterly inappropriate for any military to ever have a political role in a free society, because everything they say will necessarily be backdropped by the spectre of armed force. Militaries institutionally MUST remain completely apolitical in a free society.

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"Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."

-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.

Yup, he actually said that.


Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 17 October 2011 at 6:23pm
Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

And this is why it is utterly inappropriate for any military to ever have a political role in a free society, because everything they say will necessarily be backdropped by the spectre of armed force. Militaries institutionally MUST remain completely apolitical in a free society.


Agreed. I think the Egyptian military is a perfect example of this.


Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 18 October 2011 at 12:31am
Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

And this is why it is utterly inappropriate for any military to ever have a political role in a free society, because everything they say will necessarily be backdropped by the spectre of armed force. Militaries institutionally MUST remain completely apolitical in a free society.


Agreed. I think the Egyptian military is a perfect example of this.

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Are you high?


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"Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."

-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.

Yup, he actually said that.


Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 18 October 2011 at 1:33am
Pretty sure he meant the opposite.  Or maybe he's high.

High Voltage and Bri sandwhich with ParielIsBack bread.


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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 18 October 2011 at 7:43am
Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

Originally posted by Rofl_Mao Rofl_Mao wrote:

Originally posted by brihard brihard wrote:

And this is why it is utterly inappropriate for any military to ever have a political role in a free society, because everything they say will necessarily be backdropped by the spectre of armed force. Militaries institutionally MUST remain completely apolitical in a free society.


Agreed. I think the Egyptian military is a perfect example of this.

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Are you high?


I think they were pretty "apolitical" when the government was overthrown...


Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 18 October 2011 at 9:52am
Nevermind, he's high.

The Egyptian military has carefully balanced their political stance to ensure that they don't lose their economic status.  Given the fact that tensions are flaring again, I'm not sure how long that will continue to work.


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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 18 October 2011 at 9:55am
Ughh, what I mean is, they aren't murdering the people and trying to take over complete control. They are just a space holder until the next real government takes power...


Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 18 October 2011 at 11:52am
Except you're wrong about that.  They've clearly stepped into the power vacuum and prevented proper civilian leadership from taking over.

Also, they've started murdering people.


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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 18 October 2011 at 12:47pm
Oh, well that changes my outlook on Egypt :P



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