Calling all car guys:
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Topic: Calling all car guys:
Posted By: tallen702
Subject: Calling all car guys:
Date Posted: 04 July 2012 at 1:12pm
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So, the Subaru dealership I took my car to for the 3,750 mile service interval (the one I bought it from) seems to have messed up the gasket on the drain plug, or not tightened down the oil filter enough. As such, the engine is now dry and the car has to be flatbedded down to Alexandria tomorrow to have the engine torn down and checked over with a fine tooth comb. I'd much rather they just give me a new car, but that's probably not going to happen, so I'm going to demand they put their top mechanic on it, check every moving part that would require lubrication, replace all the piston rings and crank bearings, and extend my full warranty to 100k including all wearable parts in the powertrain. Car guys, am I missing anything here that I should be asking for? ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 04 July 2012 at 1:54pm
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Honestly, I would say that you are overreacting unless you were running the engine with little to no oil. They probably crossthreaded the oil filter or didn't torque the drain plug and it slowly leaked. If it were my car and there was a massive pool of oil when I saw my car in the morning, I would just change the oil and filter and leave it at that. On a side note, I hope you enjoy Adam Oates, and did you get your Ovechkin "language barrier" shirt yet? I am probably getting Kovalchuks ------------- 
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 04 July 2012 at 4:43pm
| People on your FB page gave good advice. If it was a double gasket, I'm sure you would have noticed a huge mess though. Happened once on my mom's jeep and oil sprayed everywhere. I've heard a lot of stories of dealers forgetting to put oil back in. |
Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 04 July 2012 at 7:40pm
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 04 July 2012 at 9:18pm
It ran dry. As in, there's no effing oil left in the car. Undercarriage is awash with oil. Leak was from the front end of the engine bay, so I'm thinking it's the filter. They either owe me a factory new engine and 100k mile warranty to back the whole thing up, or a new car. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
SSOK wrote:Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 04 July 2012 at 9:55pm
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i would write to subaru. that is 100% unsat. if they tear down the engine it will never be the same. maybe ask for a factory replacement? ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 04 July 2012 at 11:22pm
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Yeah, calling Subaru of America is a great idea (might try to get 100% of what you want from the dealer first). SoA is really really good about handling these type of things - they're known to be quite helpful on cars out of warranty, nevermind in warranty. Make sure you talk to them if things don't go your way. ------------- 
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 04 July 2012 at 11:38pm
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Agreed if you aren't satisfied with the dealer, talk to Subaru corporate. Corporate is usually good at getting on to dealers and getting everything straight with the consumer. It definitely sounds like a double gasket on the filter. Sometimes the old gasket gets stuck on the engine. |
Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 05 July 2012 at 1:49am
| So, did you actually run the motor with no oil in it or not? |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 05 July 2012 at 6:30am
I was driving when the oil pressure indicator lamp came on, about a mile from home, so yes. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 05 July 2012 at 8:47am
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most oil pressure indicator lights come on when it is two quarts low. So if you pulled over and shut it down as soon as the light went on, there would be no damage to the engine. Especially since you didn't try to limp it home, and had it towed back to the dealer. It is hard on the engine to run it low on oil like that, but only if you kept driving it and it started getting hot. A dummy light is made to kick on before major damage is done. You can tell if there was a ton of oil on the ground when they put it on the tow truck. That was in the block when you pulled over, so it doesn't sound like it ran "dry". It stinks that it happened, and this is the major reason I do all my own maintenance on my cars, I just don't trust someone else to do it right, as it isn't THEIR car. ------------- They tremble at my name... 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 05 July 2012 at 9:59am
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So, it turns out that the tech who performed the maintenance didn't tighten the drain plug well enough. FE is correct that the oil light came on when it was low. Had 2.8qts remaining when they got it all drained out, so we avoided any issues. Ran a compression test and all the cylinders are above the Subaru factory new engine minimum of 1.85. The service manager told me outright that my decision to not try and drive it to someplace to have it serviced saved the day and that they effed up. They're going to swear out a statement explaining what happened and admitting fault. They've agreed that any issues that arise with the drive-train will be covered (parts and labor both) to 100k. I also have mechanical coverage from Geico, so I should be good. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 05 July 2012 at 11:24am
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Phew, bet that was a stressful day... Good thing you aren't a girl, most women I know wouldn't even notice the oil light... And would only stop when the grinding and smashing of pistons/rings occurred, then would be mad that it didn't keep going. ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 05 July 2012 at 11:28am
So very, very true! Reminds me of the photo a buddy of mine put up on FB a while back:  ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 06 July 2012 at 10:15am
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glad it worked out, I must have missed the thread where you bought a subby. Even when I change my own oil I still check the filter/drain plug a few clicks later, I can't drive in peace unless I do.
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 06 July 2012 at 10:21am
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That's one thing i like about my car. the drain plug is on the top of the engine. ------------- 
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 06 July 2012 at 11:29am
That's the only thing you like about it?  ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 06 July 2012 at 12:59pm
| so do you have to flip the whole car upside down then to drain the oil eville? |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 06 July 2012 at 1:07pm
You pump it out with a hose -------------
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 06 July 2012 at 1:23pm
| well that seems overly complicated. |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 06 July 2012 at 1:32pm
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Its probably designed for old men. -------------
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 06 July 2012 at 3:57pm
Why don't you try reading other people's posts more closely before making a smart ass comment? Moron. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 06 July 2012 at 4:03pm
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i'm not following. Could be lack of sleep. Man, iono. -------------
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 06 July 2012 at 4:54pm
Just bashing myself for poor reading comprehension. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 06 July 2012 at 5:08pm
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ahhhh -------------
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 07 July 2012 at 9:25pm
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 08 July 2012 at 7:50pm
I know a woman who was driving her husband's new truck, which was quite a bit bigger than her vehicle, and drug the side of it along a parking lot pole. She said later that she heard a funny noise but kept going because she didn't know what it was. She got every panel on the right side except the very front one
I was going to chastise USAF for the manner in which he referenced other forumers but then, because I did read the post closely, I realized he was calling himself names. The more I thought about, the more uncertain I became of what to do so, since my brain now hurts, I'm going to settle for telling USAF to "be nice to himself*" and go have an adult beverage or two. *Which also sounds wrong when you think about it. ------------- 
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 09 July 2012 at 1:16pm
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A girl I know was making a right turn in a big van and hit a pole with the middle of the door and every panel back because she didnt turn wide enough. I asked her if she stopped when she hit it and she said, and I quote: "Yes, but by then it was too late and there was no way off it but to keep going forward." The thought to put it in reverse never crossed her mind. -------------
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 09 July 2012 at 1:31pm
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My sister had a VW bus, and the parking brake went out on it... So one day she parked it on a hill, and instead of turning it off, left it running, and got out... She was surprised when it rolled down the hill and tboned someone else's car before hitting a house. Cause if you leave it running, you don't need the brake... Or something. This is the same sister, that was surprised when another vw she had blew an engine, because she never changed the oil... Oh, and she did that TWICE... ------------- They tremble at my name...
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