A violation of America's "innocent until proven guilty" ideology in exchange for a fleeting sense of vigilante justice.

 

Just for starters.

 

I'm probably going to be hated for this, but since he'll without a doubt be incarcerated for the rest of his (likely short) lifespan, why not study his noggin and try to figure out what exactly pushed him to the point where he's at? Perhaps shed some light on how issues facing society affect youth?

 

Pipe dreaming of course, the vast majority of people will just focus on whacking him and moving on to the next tragedy.

 

Sneaky already said it but media =/= justice system.

 

Your emotional need for revenge is fleeting but a person's life is not. The minute we devalue the sanctity of life in favor for satisfying the needs of a lynch mob we open the door for innocent people to be killed. For every Holmes that we basically know is guilty there's a Zimmerman that we don't. That's why justice is blind and sits between the two extremes to dole out emotionless sentences based on written precedence.

 

As far as the whole "poor kid" speech, that's just grandstanding on your part. There's no pity or compassion for this man that I've seen, not even in this thread. He has an entire society waiting to watch him die.

The rule of law MUST remain inviolate. Even when a bunch of innocent people are dead.

Hell, ESPECIALLY when a bunch of innocent people are dead.

 

This.

 

I do wished trials were speedier. Like, convicted today, appeal next week, dead next month speedier.

 

But those are **edited**ling complaints to live in a system that makes every attempt to make sure that you're guilty of the crime you're being punished. There are lots of countries around the world where someone just needs to drop your name in the wrong light and you never see your family again.

 

I came across a great Thomas Jefferson quote looking for another-

 

Thomas Jefferson wrote: I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it.

 

I don't see this man getting off on insanity (depending on how you read that of course ) He planned this out for months and on top of that held a good enough GPA to get into a PhD program. I'd say this man is as screwed as anyone else on the planet.

 

OS wrote:   As stated the 'victims' of this exercise in violence will soon be forgotten and not the prime focus of the 'trial', it will be how our society failed Mr. Holmes.

 

But let's take a step back and look at this for a second. What IF society is, in some way, failing? What if there's a point or position in which the pressures of society are beginning to take their toll on people his age (as Tallen pointed out in the other thread)?

 

I see this argument alot from my parents and people of that generation. I understand the frustration with the finances and time of the judicial system, but at the same time really, in my opinion of course, this argument comes down to STOP USING BIG WORDS AND SHOOT HIM. If we as a society take these incidents as a time to learn rather than simply exterminating the guilty and moving on we stand to benefit.

 

I'm not saying take him to an institution and use tax payer dollars to keep him alive and comfortable the rest of his life, I'm saying take the time while he's still breathing and try and see when, where, and why he snapped. At some point this guy went from normal to batpoo.

 

And another side to this argument. Every time someone pisses and moans about the justice system taking their time with these people what they're really saying is that this guy is perfectly normal and should be tried as such. That may not be the way they intend it, but that's the end result of their argument. If that's the case then for alot of politicians and lawmakers the obvious thing that separates the crazies from the rest of us is their guns.

 

You do not typically see that in crimes demonstrating this much deliberation and planning.

And he's been granted supervised day pass's already.