Academy Update
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Topic: Academy Update
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Subject: Academy Update
Date Posted: 07 January 2013 at 6:53am
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I'm not really supposed to talk about it much, but with the support you guys have given me, I feel I owe you at least an idea of what's going on thus far. I survived 1st day. There was nothing fun, exciting, or even good about it. It was all day hell both physically and mentally, I hated every second of it, and its not expected to get easier any time soon. We had one quit, we had another get physically ill, and a few come close to passing out. I can't give any details, but despite it all, it never even occurred to me to ring the bell and drop out. I recognize a few people from mt PT test, so its nice to know a couple of people. All in all though, its pretty much what I expected of the program. Most of our DIs are former military, and they delight in concocting spectacular torments. I know the point of these tortures and exercises, so it doesn't bother me as much as I thought it might. My trick is to pick a spot on the wall across the room from me and think about it. How did it get there? Would it come off? Is someone going to have to clean it? At any rate, it does promise to be a long six months, but as of now, I don't have any plans on dropping out. I'm not saying I WONT fail, because nothing's certain until the end- but as it looks, I think i can hack it. Again gentlemen, thank you. ------------- ? |
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 January 2013 at 8:00am
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Mind over Matter, if you don't mind then it don't matter. They make it as tough as possible because chances are you will experience much worse. Look at it like this, at least they will not smack the crap out of you...
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 07 January 2013 at 11:06am
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At least it's not some skank with meth mouth trying to bite and scratch you while offering you some coochy to let her loose. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 07 January 2013 at 11:55am
Wait..... You're saying that's a job detractor or a job perk? ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
oldpbnoob wrote:Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 07 January 2013 at 12:06pm
------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 07 January 2013 at 5:50pm
 Atta boy Reb.I started today today officially. Our first day wasn't as bad as yours. It was more of an orientation day with PT at the end. Tomorrow is when we flip over to boot camp mode. Decent group of people in my academy, but after our PT today(which was pretty damn easy), I'd be shocked if either female makes it. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 07 January 2013 at 8:37pm
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If you want this as bad as you indicate, then you will make it, no doubt about it. You have some good reasons to accomplish this; you want it, your family is behind you, and a bunch of paintball nerds believe that you can make it and supported you. Good luck! ------------- Imagine there’s a picture of your favourite thing here. |
Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 07 January 2013 at 8:40pm
Good Luck Reb! 
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 07 January 2013 at 9:03pm
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Would they kick you out if you became too ill? Like if you get the flu or something of that nature that will put you to the sidelines for a minute? ------------- 
J. Thompson #5150- http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2945831 - Happiness Is A Tupperware Fed Weapon |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 12:11am
How'd you do? Our session tonight was amazingly awful. 4 hours of some of the most creative pain infliction ever. These DIs are GOOD at what they do. One of our recruits learned that you don't ask them 'Why?" when they tell you something. I think he might be dead now. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 12:13am
Probably not, we've had a couple of guys wander off and barf, and we are allowed to miss 'x' amount of instructional time for whatever reasons. ------------- ? |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 1:27am
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Our summer camp brings in personal trainers once every summer, always the day after the last night we're allowed out before the kids get there. Vomit galore. I love it, newbies show up hung over, returners tamp it down a bit the night before, veterans get nostalgic and do it still intoxicated. Still nothing compared to some good ones on PI. Combat PT was the best, quarter-mile bear crawls, frog-hops, fireman's carry, pistol belt drag through sawgrass and gnats, beating each other up in between. Once the endorphins kick in it's all fun. Enjoy it. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 6:41am
I did alright. We only did PT for about an hour, and it was just towers.(run 4 flights up, pushups, run down, situps) It sucked doing extra pushups/front leaning rest for when the girls held us back, but other than that I was prepared. They got a lot of the "Your partners could be up here dying" speech, but I don't think it sank in... Worst part for me was my new, expensive running shoes really make my feet hurt. Before I speak too soon though, we have our first real inspection tomorrow. Are you going everyday? ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 10:17am
| What kind of shoes? |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 10:17am
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I'm three nights a week for 4 hours apiece, then all day Saturday. We run through to Mid July. You? I figure in a few weeks, either the punishment will ease up as they focus less on weeding out the ones that don't belong there, and more on instruction, or if they don't lighten up a bit, I'll have gotten used to it, both mentally and physically. Either way, I know the hard part is breaking through the first few weeks until we can get into the meat of the training. My goals are simple- make it through one day at a time. Despite the physical stuff, I'm more worried about the academic- and I've been in a classroom for a large chunk of my life. Any cretin can be conditioned to do squats all day, but when it comes down to it, you either cut it or you don't when it comes time to take the exams. ------------- ? |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 10:26am
------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 10:40am
No different from boot camp at Parris Island or any other training base... ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 10:47am
| Are you guys required to ride the tazer? If so please take video for us. Oh and the OC exposure. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 2:03pm
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If NY is anything like the DC academy, you shouldn't have much of a problem in the classroom end of things. I have a buddy who was a lawyer and then went DCMPD when all the legal jobs started disappearing. He said in the DC academy that when it came to the legal end of things, it was way easier than law school as you focus on the simple black and white. You aren't there to interpret the law, simply to enforce it. Did person X do action Y? If yes, proceed to booking, if no, send them on their way. He said it's a lot more of just remember what the law states, not whether someone was technically doing something or not, that's up to the courts to figure out. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 2:49pm
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I need to amend that- its more than passing the test that I'm worried about, all of our handwritten notes need to be transcribed into type, and fit into a specific format, to be collected, reviewed, and graded on a bi-weekly basis. Its like 30% of the academic grade. ------------- ? |
Posted By: deadeye007
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 7:45pm
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I lucked out and went through the academy during a time frame in which they didn't worry about PT everyday. ------------- Face it guys, common sense is a form of wealth and we're surrounded by poverty.-Strato |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 8:12pm
Inspection is at 7:45 each morning, and we finish up about 1700-1800 each evening. We have to get dressed at the TC, so I'm basically there from 700-1800 every day. The bright side is we go M-F, plus one or two nights for firearms and a saturday for rapid deployment, until the end of April. Our state exam is May 3. PT these first two days hasn't been bad for me yet. Leading up to the school though, I had heard it was a beast 3 days a week plus penalty stuff on T/Tr. We have an assessment tomorrow, so I guess I won't find out how bad it can be till Friday. Some stuff doesn't bother me, but the 3+ mile runs might kill me. Academics will probably be where I have to work hard too. Our tests apparently kick way more people out than PT does, so we'll see. I had an idea the other day too, I'll shoot you a pm tomorrow when I get a chance to write it out.
Asics Gel-Nimbus
I have to be religious about stretching my hamstrings or my lower back will ruin my life. I probably neglect stretching my calves before cardio though, I'll give that a try. Thanks. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 8:27pm
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Congrats, Reb. Keep us informed. On a similar note, I got my call today from our federal police force giving me the congratulations, and that I am now only awaiting an exact course date. They run them starting roughly monthly, and I'll probably start late March or in April. Once that happens, I'll be off to Regina, Saskatchewan for a full time six months program, living at the academy. I'll have most weekends off, though still living there. Once that's done they can post me literally anywhere in Canada. But hey- I got The Call. Police forces are damned hard to get into up here, and the money is actually really, really good. And the breadth of opportunities that the RCMP will offer me down the road is considerable. I'm pumped. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 08 January 2013 at 9:54pm
I do believe we have the makings of a TV show here folks! NY cop, Canadian Mountie! And now with USAF as the dog!  ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 09 January 2013 at 6:33pm
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We got absolutely smoked today. I am close to death. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 09 January 2013 at 7:58pm
| SUCK IT UP COPPER! |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 10 January 2013 at 11:12am
Its incredibly comforting to have someone I know going through the same thing. We lost 3 recruits last night. Uniform inspections, close order drill, then our very first PT session. 1.3 mile run in the cold AFTER cycling through various calisthenics stations. This is after doing duck walks, and squats with gear bags over our heads the other day. My quads have been on fire for four days now. I think we're starting to get into the 'training' next week, easing out of the 'ass kick' stage though. Our DIs are making up infractions at this point, like putting their thumb on your tie bar, then yelling at you for fingerprints. There's still a few people in there who don't think the rules apply to them though and almost refuse to sound off when spoken to, and all I can think of is how we'd have a sock party a'la Full Metal Jacket if this was a full time, sleep in academy. Good luck. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 10 January 2013 at 4:58pm
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Make sure you do some intensive stretching - definitely will help keep you on top of the game as the ass-kicking continues. ------------- 
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 11 January 2013 at 3:40pm
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You and few others may have to have a, "Come to Jesus" talk with the dimwits that feel they are above the rules. Ours was meeting at the flagpole in the parking lot. Usually one "talking to" was enough. If not, they might be next few to washout. ------------- 
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 11 January 2013 at 3:48pm
Yep. As my boss says, "Make them drink the kool-aid!" ------------- 
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 11 January 2013 at 7:01pm
Ironically enough, we were standing around our flagpole after PT when we had a meeting of some of the more squared away guys about the issue this evening. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 11 January 2013 at 8:13pm
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Sorry Reb, but that all sounds pretty idiotic and juvenile. These cats need to realize it's NOT the army, it's the police. Presumably they aren't dealing with a bunch of 18 and 19 year olds, but rather a bunch of intelligent, pretty mature adults who have an interest in serving their communities. I see little value in that kind of B.S. when you're trying to train someone to intelligently and with care and discretion apply a nation's laws in a coercive manner against it's population. Those are tactics for training people to do things unthinkingly, which is the antithesis of what you want police to be. Yeah, you need to teach drill, dress, and discipline, no argument there. But the screaming, the smudged tie bars, nonsense like that... I see exceedingly little value in that. I haven't even found this crap necessary for training soldiers in most circumstances. You can ramp up a LOT of stress and exertion in people without it being transparently stupid. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 12 January 2013 at 12:24am
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I'd agree, if it was bothering me to the point where I thought I'd up and quit. They take the definition of 'paramilitary' very seriously. I think the whole point of that stuff this week was to find the people who might be there for the wrong reasons, and to weed out anyone who can't take some stress. And to also force us to pay attention to detail. All in all, I'm not really that worked up about it no matter how insanely over the top it might be. There's no question that these guys are hard. Its reputed to be one of the hardest academies on our part of the state. We re-did the PT test tonight, the one that I passed a month or so ago to get INTO the academy. I missed the mile and a half run time by ONE SECOND- but that's after a week of constant nonsense, and it was cold and raining. Luckily, this was just a benchmark, and it doesn't really count for anything. The fact that they spent all week with us holding out gear bags over our heads, doing duck walks and 'smurf jacks' (you don't want to know) and they only managed to add about 4 seconds to my run time is sort of heartening. In six months, after the workouts and physical training, I think I can make the graduation requirements now. Besides, I've never been challenged at this level in my whole life. If they want to give me hell and push my ass to do something, so be it. Excessive or not, It helps me paint a picture of who I am, beyond the squishy wuss that fixed computers in a previous life. ------------- ? |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 12 January 2013 at 8:12am
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USAF, "Come To Jesus" meetings aren't about encouraging people to do better. They're about telling them that under no uncertain circumstances will you tolerate their continued ineptitude and that they'd better make a visible and unmistakable improvement immediately or GTFO. Everyone in the class needs to tell her point blank that her inability to get it done in a reasonable time is hurting YOUR performance. That's why the DI's have you do those forward leans. They want you guys to band together and either get her to improve, or get her to quit. It builds the reality that you can't have people who can't do the job serving with you because it compromises everyone's safety and ability to do the job correctly. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 12 January 2013 at 9:00am
Oh, I know. I meant that if she were a male, her "talk" would be a lot different. She's already gotten(from us and the instructors), everything from encouragement to the "your partners are dying on the side of the road and you're walking." It just doesn't sink in. She doesn't want to even be a cop. She's just doing it as a stepping stone to forensics or lab work. That doesn't make us feel any better about it, of course. I'd wager she's pretty close to just having people turn on her majorly. We're a pretty tight class, other than her, so until she gets it or quits, she's just a rallying cry for the rest of us. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: DaveEllis
Date Posted: 15 January 2013 at 1:37am
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I had someone in my class like that, she was a clout baby from a clout town. They let her graduate, then fired her at the ceremony. boom, she had no business being the police.
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 15 January 2013 at 12:25pm
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We've lost 5 so far, and there's two hangers on that are like stubborn dingleberries. They won't drop off, but they've honestly go no business being there. Our sessions start at 6pm. Most of us elect to get there at 5, so we can square away uniforms, submit paperwork, and get everything set before the DIs start mashing us to teeny little bits, and our classroom stuff starts. We've got two people that show up at 5 to six, which balls up the paperwork submissions since it all has to be handed in alphabetically, their uniform isn't square, and its throwing us all down a hole. We had one guy say 'thanks dude' to a police officer who helped him unlock his car before class....the academy director got wind of that and was PISSED that the recruit didn't show more respect than that. hell, we didn't even have a uniform inspection last night, we were smoked early and hard until class room instruction, then they ran us for an hour and a half. One of the other recruits grabbed the habitual late-comer, and I think he gave him the run around last night. These dopes are claiming issues with family and work, thats why they can't square themselves away. Well, a good number of us have families, and every one in the class works a job atop of academy. There's not much of an excuse. If your job demands keep you from doing whats necessary for the academy, maybe this isn't the right time for you to be there. .....but no. They continue to screw up and are really getting the rest of us run through the ringer. Simple nonsense too, like if you're going to be late or miss class, you're supposed to call both the academy directors and your squad leaders, as well as email them AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE. We have people just not show up on occasion. We get beat up for that too. I need to shave 41 seconds off of my run time to graduate, and that's worrying me a little. But there's time to get that done. ------------- ? |
Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 15 January 2013 at 12:45pm
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Skin hats. ------------- |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 31 January 2013 at 4:55pm
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I'm not going to start a new thread, so I'll resurrect this old thing. We're a month in and I'm still alive. I did very well on our first written exam, and my academics are on the whole pretty decent. Physically, even after only a month, I'm a different person. There's no limping or whimpering when we get done with a PT session, and I'm running our 3, 4, 5 mile jogs while staying near the front of the pack. All that is pretty good, but we're in rough shape as a platoon. There are a couple of habitual screw ups that are STILL bringing us down. We're waiting for them to fail out academically or on demerits, but in the meantime we're taking severe beatings for their transgressions. Its to the point where the academy directors called the DIs on the carpet for not having us into shape by now. Since 'you know what' rolls downhill, the DIs are taking it upon themselves to smoke the daylights out of us every spare second we have. They'll walk in at the start of class, and rather than do a uniform inspection, they'll just yell "On the deck!" and we get out asses beat as the nimrods who screwed up this time are pulled to the front and we thank them as we work. And its usually the same ones. One guy is really, really bad. He doesn't belong there. I'm not a stellar recruit, but I'm not at the bottom of the pack either. This one dude though....he STILL doesn't sound off when he's spoken to, he forgets his PT gear at home, he fails exams, he doesn't hand in paperwork....he's a mess, and we're getting creamed for it. When we actually HAVE class or PT time though, I rather enjoy it. I like learning new things, and I like the fact that I've never worked this hard for anything in my life....I just can't stand the fact that we're expending so much energy on these cretins this late in the game. We can't really beat the hell out of them, but good lord I'd be lying if I said the thought hadn't crossed every single one of our minds. USAF.....how are you making out? ------------- ? |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 31 January 2013 at 5:26pm
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You could get some of the better performers together and take the screw ups under your wing. Help them out, send them reminders, study with them. The worst that can happen is they continue to screwup. The best thing that can happen is they catch on and you don't get smoked as much. You might even earn some brownie points with the DIs if you can straighten them out. -------------
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 31 January 2013 at 6:17pm
Could be better, could be worse. Academically I'm doing alright. A- average, but I should have been studying my stuff to get top grades. Class has been dropping pretty rapidly. Started with 16, lost 2 to tests, two quitters, and one guy(a really good guy, probably my best friend in the academy) had to med drop because he found out he had testicular cancer. We got a new PT instructor this week, who was supposed to be our main instructor, but couldn't until now. He absolutely killed us, especially after a pretty lax week last week. Others struggle more than me though, so I try not to complain too much. We continue to suffer from our bad egg, who refuses to quit.(Failure to train isn't grounds for a DQ, as long as she is "trying") She continues to curse us out, #)(@#, moan, etc. Private meetings with PT instructors haven't gotten to her. Actually planning on speaking to the director about her tomorrow. We have four tests Monday, hoping she fails two and gets DQ'd. Being that I'm on a full time schedule, the end of tomorrow marks the 25% mark of my academy. Today we started writing citations, and it's one of the first times I've really felt like I was learning something applicable/practical. We start SCAT next week and from then on out we rarely go more than a few days without doing something active/practical.
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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 31 January 2013 at 7:40pm
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well done! ------------- Imagine there’s a picture of your favourite thing here. |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 31 January 2013 at 7:47pm
I rode the lightning, but never got the video. The trainers enjoyed the different types of screams each volunteer produced. I exhaled completely before the last "Taser!" call was made. -------------
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 31 January 2013 at 8:15pm
I won't ride the lightning until I get back to my hiring agency. The cartridges are $80 a pop + the cost for the instruction, so most melting pot academies don't offer it here. I will get CS/OS certified in April though. I'll upload the video when I get it. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 31 January 2013 at 8:58pm
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Tazer training is something that a department decides to send people to, and you don't get it in the academies. Our OC comes in April or May, I'm not sure. Our 'slacker' seems to be completely oblivious to the fact that he's a screw up. He's really non-confrontational, and bounces along with everything with sort of a detached indifference that has me actually concerned for his mental capacities. Nobody in the class can picture this guy as a police officer, and there's not enough training in the world that can change it. ------------- ? |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 01 February 2013 at 7:48pm
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Reb, do ya'll do the POPAT? ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 02 February 2013 at 12:08am
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I don't think we do it in the academy, but the agility tests for different counties or agencies may incorporate something like that. ------------- ? |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 February 2013 at 1:48am
YES! SKIN HAT IS BACK! ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 02 February 2013 at 7:39am
They shouldn't have to actually hit you with it unless you want to. Only one person was selected to take the barbs. The rest of us had the alligator clips attached to the shoulder and hip for the ride. -------------
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 02 February 2013 at 8:34am
It's not required in NC either, but most everyone does for 2 reasons.(here, at least) 1. The DAs that teach a couple of our classes highly suggest it. They claim, whether correctly or not, that having experienced it first hand can be an extremely effective defense if we ever shoot someone that takes our taser/has one of their own. 2. No one wants to be "that guy" who didn't do it in front of their coworkers. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 02 February 2013 at 8:15pm
There was one guy in the group that I work with that was on the fence about doing it. He decided it wasn't for him. Then one of the females took the ride which basically shamed him into it. I don't know how he did it, but he managed to take several long breaths during the ride so he could scream. In any of the vids we saw, it was the females that took the hits the best. It was the guys that screamed the most. It was the same in our "hands on" experience. You could tell she was in pain, but she never made a peep. -------------
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 04 February 2013 at 12:02pm
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From what I'm told, since it effects the muscles, the more heavily built you are, the worse it feels. It could explain why the women took it better than the guys did. But that's just a hypothesis. I'm only going on what we've been told in class by instructors. ------------- ? |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 05 February 2013 at 6:39pm
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We started SCAT today. Or, yesterday really, but we started on the mats today. 8 hours of strikes/pressure points/stuns and then an hour of penalty PT and I'm about dead. Also, I died in PT today to create additional weight during the last half mile(we were already rotating people through on a litter). I would have rather been suffering through the PT than having to be carried by people. That SUCKS. We lost another yesterday to tests. Still not the worthless girl though. Still time. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: deadeye007
Date Posted: 05 February 2013 at 7:03pm
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Mechanics of arrest week was the worst for me. We got cuffed to the point our wrists were bleeding, and one of the ASP strikes we practiced kept knocking the skin off of my knuckles. Just keep reminding yourself that in a few weeks they will be paying you to do some crazy stuff in a car that you probably won't get to do anywhere else. ------------- Face it guys, common sense is a form of wealth and we're surrounded by poverty.-Strato |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 05 February 2013 at 7:23pm
They sprung another benchmark PT test on us last night after 3 hours of Procedural law classroom stuff. Whilst changing for the test, I came to a realization. I turn 30 three months before graduation, which lowers the bar for me for the PT test a bit. I no longer have to make the run in 11:59, but 12:24. This never dawned on me, but I still plan on training for the lower bracket- especially after I made it 11:02 last night....which sort of took me by surprise. We're up to 4 people who are bringing us down. Two are academic, so we don't get a lot of punishment for that, but the other two STILL show up late, forget paperwork, and generally screw up, and we pay for that....damn near every night. The one major screw up was called out the other day by the instructors right in front of the rest of the class. "Recruit <Name>, who sucks at everything else he does, and is the weakest one here managed to pass the PT test." He's killing us, and he has no idea. The academy directors told our platoon leader that he needs to convince this screw up to quit. There's nobody in the platoon that would feel safe having this guy show up as backup, and nobody wants to pair with him when we do the physical stuff. ------------- ? |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 05 February 2013 at 8:53pm
Really not looking forward to cuffs tomorrow or Thursday after we did strikes today. My forearms are unbelievably sore from doing them.
Sounds like our anchors could be brother sister. Today she forgot her DUTY BELT.(Seems like that'd be pretty high up on a person's checklist each morning headed to a police academy, but what do I know) She was the reason we got our 3 mile litter carry today too. I keep telling myself to not talk about her, complain about her, etc., but she is probably the worse human being I've ever come into contact with that wasn't some type of hard drug addict. It's nice to know that every academy has one of THOSE people though. Makes me feel like less of a jerk for disliking her so much. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 06 February 2013 at 9:41am
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Reb and USAF, I think you guys need to simply start refusing to use these sad-sacks names and start calling them what they are. "dead weight" "gold bricker" "flunkie" or simple start calling them "Sobel" and refer them to the mutiny that took place in E company 501st PIR over the man of that name. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 06 February 2013 at 7:05pm
I spoke with the director yesterday morning about her and he said generally the same thing. We have basically cut her off completely from anything but responses required by the lessons. Between the two or three guys that have kind of acted like a "crutch" to her these last weeks silencing her out and DT beating EVERYONE's ass this week, she is at least showing some signs of cracking. We got screamed at by our instructors today(who are not in on the cold shoulder decree) about how we are a team, because she lied and said one of the, formerly, crutch guys was "bullying" her. The instructors we have regularly(like for PT) know the truth, so it's not such a big deal. I'll take whatever PT beatings I need to if it means no officer will ever have his/her life on the line with this recruit as their backup. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 07 February 2013 at 9:10am
That's one way to look at it. Our guy was ordered to keep a small notebook in his pocket for some reason, I didn't hear what it was exactly- but nobody else has to. It may be for the DIs to keep track of his list of screw ups.. Anyway, he it it for ONE DAY....and washed it with his uniform. Then came to inspection with the washed up notebook still in his pocket- having made no effort to replace it with a new one. And a month in, one of our other clowns didn't have her boots TIED. I got ripped yesterday for my cover, the inside of the lining was 'frayed' and I was told it was the most 'unsatisfactory' in the platoon, and it was thrown on the floor. Then the DI moved to the guy next to me, found a real problem with his cover...and he came back and APOLOGIZED to me- saying that mine actually wasn't so bad.  We did manage to impress them with the results of our surprise PT exam monday night. 2/3 of the class passed all three components, and everyone improved their run time. They actually complimented us on it, and for one, the Director's address at the end of the night wasn't "Get your crap together you morons." Progress is a wonderful thing, and I'm starting to enjoy it. All of it. ------------- ? |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 08 February 2013 at 7:56pm
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We fought the redman today. I did really, really well, but man does my face/head/right eye hurt right now. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 08 February 2013 at 8:16pm
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Now you just have to fight him after being OCed. Did you guys fight him with PR-24s? If you haven't gotten into them yet, the white "styrofoam" PR-24s still hurt like a mother. -------------
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 09 February 2013 at 12:44am
I just took the licks that were coming to me and swung for the fences at the biceps/triceps center mass. I think our OC course is just knee/shin strikes. baton strikes, and cuffing. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 12 February 2013 at 12:39pm
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Wooow. So, our DIs gave our deadweight guy a real going over last night. Not physically, or even completely yelling at him, but they broke it down for him really, REALLY well. Had they given this speech to him on the first day, you could chalk it up to the Day 1 psychological terror that you'd normally expect. But 6 weeks in, its different. Had they given ME this speech last night, I couldn't show up tomorrow night. There's no way. It was everything from making it abundantly clear that he doesn't belong there, to pointing out that HE is making the platoon suffer constantly for his transgressions. If he shows up tomorrow I will have lost every shred of respect for this guy that I had left, and be completely pissed off at him for not getting even the most blatant message that could be given to him, knowing full well that we're going to keep paying for him until he either washes out academically or god forbid hangs on until the end. And they did this all right in front of the rest of us. It was more brutal than anything they did to any of us on day 1. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 12 February 2013 at 1:33pm
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Blanket Party.
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 12 February 2013 at 2:50pm
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Its beyond the point where we want him to shape up. We want him gone, and I'm pretty close to endorsing any physical suggestions that someone wants to offer. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 17 February 2013 at 11:06pm
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Bumping this again. So our main 'deadweight' guy has left us. After the reaming that he got from the DIs that night, he didn't come back. We are on the verge of losing one more to academics, which I won't mind. This guy's nowhere near as bad as the first one was, but he's clearly the weak link right now. We're in the midst of a ton of classroom stuff right now, which is dry as hell. The physical stuff isn't as bad anymore, the conditioning is working, and where as I started our 3-5 mile nightly jogs somewhere in the middle of the pack, I now finish behind the front runners and the instructor. In fact there's a group of about 5 or 6 of us who are constantly having to 'wagon wheel' to go back and pick up the slower runners. I love it. I've never been in this good a shape in my life, and I've got a goal in mind. My last PT test was a success, and I've done well enough on both exams that I'm in no danger of flunking out to academics. Literally, my only MAJOR fear right now is the 80% I need to get on our Emergency medical exam later on in the class- because I've never been exposed to it at all. That's all for now, I'm in the middle of notebook transcription- typing up all of my handwritten notes for the week and prepping them for handing in tomorrow night. ------------- ? |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 19 February 2013 at 8:34pm
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We're in firearms this week. The simulator is pretty freaking sweet. After a day on the simulator/doing dry runs, I'm terrified of being around our weak link with live ammunition involved, but I'm really excited to be out of the range for 3 more days. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: deadeye007
Date Posted: 20 February 2013 at 12:52pm
Did they use a FATS system? The one I did a month ago had machine set up that shot me in the shin with a rubber pellet. I couldn't get myself in the mood to hide behind a plastic box as "cover". ------------- Face it guys, common sense is a form of wealth and we're surrounded by poverty.-Strato |
Posted By: DaveEllis
Date Posted: 20 February 2013 at 10:33pm
We did the fats awhile ago, I got super excited and yelled/drew down on a little girl, though she does get out of the car with a shotgun later.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 21 February 2013 at 8:59pm
We had it activated, but I didn't get shot. My dad went through the same BLET program(and actually went through it with another cadet's dad, which is kind of cool), so they kind of threw me some more complex ones during mine just to mess with me, and I think they took it easy on me with the FATS because of that. 3/5 of my scenarios were ones with another officer being held hostage in one way or another. I did have to shoot a really really hot girl in one of the others though, that was weird. We finished up qualifying tonight. Pretty sure I lost "Top Gun" by one second in the tie breaker. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: DaveEllis
Date Posted: 24 February 2013 at 2:17am
Weirdly erotic?
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 08 March 2013 at 1:05pm
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How's it hanging Reb? We just got through driving this week. Really, really long days, but it was a blast. Easily the most fun I've had so far. 9 weeks down, 7 to go. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 March 2013 at 2:01pm
We're down to 28 from 40, and we're doing a lot of classroom stuff at the moment. In about 2 weeks we start defensive tactics, and its a bit more of a relaxed atmosphere than what we're dealing with now. The only real problem I have is one of our DIs doesn't communicate with the directors, and contradicts directives we get from them, then reflects his failure to talk to them or clarify orders back on us. If he walks in the door for uniform inspections, we're going to get yelled at. If any of the other ones are there, we might get gigged for infractions, but its not the 'end of the world' yelling that the other guy does. I know it seems stupid to complain about being yelled by a DI, since...well, that's their job- but there's a lot of 'chicken-crap' that he pulls, even two months into the game. We're constantly getting paperwork back for spelling errors or grammatical mistakes. Problem is, the paperwork is graded by different people each time- so what one person sees as okay this time, gets marked as a mistake next time...and each time you get it handed back to you, you have to do a handwritten copy of the assignment. Case in point: -We were given a quiz on a section of the rules and regulations - Write the section verbatim. -The section includes a comma after a certain word, which I stuck in...since, you know...its there. -I lose half a point on the quiz because the 'comma doesn't belong there.' -I rewrite the quiz, leaving out the comma as directed, and add my handwritten copy. -Paperwork comes back for the missing comma, now I get to retype it, and add TWO handwritten copies. ....they did this to at least three other people in the class. Aside from that- all is well. I don't mind the physical stuff and have gotten my run time down to well below what I need it to be to graduate. I've cliqued with a few of the other older guys in there, and we run together and sort of help each other through some of the other stuff. I'm glad I'm doing it, and have long ago hit that point where I said "I ain't gonna quit" - but man, if I DONT happen to make it through, I don't know if I could go through it all over again! Glad you're heading to the home stretch- I almost wish we were doing a full time schedule, we'd be nearly finished by now. Instead, its just dragging along painfully. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 08 March 2013 at 2:24pm
FATS is a blast. We had one (one of the early ones) when I was still in that allowed a 13 man squad with M4s, and a (stationary/disabled) HMMWV-mounted M60 to engage an incoming squad. It had a 180* screen, surround sound, and the little puffs of air to simulate incoming fire. (No pellets though.)
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 March 2013 at 2:40pm
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....That's still more friendly a term than the one I wanted to use.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 08 March 2013 at 4:54pm
We're down to 9. Our problem child finally got removed during driving. SCAT is when they started to let up on stuff on us as well. We still get gigged for some uniform stuff, which is annoying, but it's not so bad. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 09 March 2013 at 6:03am
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We lost a guy to academics a few weeks ago, and it just so happened that his exit was the most humiliating thing I've ever witnessed. A few of us got called to the director's office (I had a bit of an issue with police contact the night before) and this guy was one of them. The rest of the class went to the training room to get ready for a gear inspection. They school circled, and waited for those of us in the office to come back. I got called first, got a minor ass chewing, and sent back to the room. Well, this guy who failed the test (this was his second failure) was the last one called into the office, and therefore the last one back to the training room. He was dismissed while he was in there. The poor bastard had to come into the room, walk across it in front of everyone, pick up his gear bag, about face, and leave the room....with everyone looking on. There wasn't anyone who didn't feel sorry for him. He was our last dismissal. The one before that was our real dead-weight guy, and since then, even though there's 28 of us left, there's no real anchors. ------------- ? |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 09 March 2013 at 12:34pm
I finally got my date. Mid April I head off to Depot for six months of full time training. I'll be part of a troop of 24 candidates. In one of those bizarre small world things, a guy from the other end of the country who I did my infantry sergeant's course will be in my troop as well. I can't wait to get started.  ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 09 March 2013 at 10:32pm
| Why did you have a run in with the cops Reb? |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 09 March 2013 at 10:46pm
Congrats, Bri! ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 10 March 2013 at 9:35am
Oh, yes. that. Well, since I ditched my car back in January, I had to borrow my father's until we could get a new one (waited on tax return) Well, I didn't realize it, but the plate lamp in the back was out, and on the way home from academy one night, I got pulled over by a state trooper for it. He told me the lamp was out, saw my hat and gear bag from the academy, and asked if I was in training. When I said I was, he told me 'This stop never even happened.' He got in his car and left. I still had to report to the academy any police contact, citations or not, so I sent the appropriate email, but there was also a verbal directive to call and leave a message, no matter what time of day or night, which I didn't do. And got busted bad for it. I was almost given demerits, but instead was directed to write the rules and regulations section on police contact 5 times by hand. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 10 March 2013 at 12:26pm
Because they are all Fascist pigs on the take who're keeping the man down! KBK ------------- Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. H = 2 |
Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 14 March 2013 at 11:58pm
That's awesome bri! My cousin was one of two out of 100 to be chosen for the RCMP Musical Ride a few weeks ago. |