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Topic: How can we stop another attack?

Posted By: impulse418
Subject: How can we stop another attack?
Date Posted: 19 April 2013 at 9:39pm

These attacks are the last straw; we need to new policies to prevent any further aggression on American soil. These are some that I believe will help keep the homeland safe.

Banning of all explosives, propellants and anything chemical that can potentially be made into a bomb. Such as black powder, smokeless power, fertilizer, primers etc etc. Farmers will still be able to fertilize their crops, but this task will be handled by the government.

All firearms are to be banned for civilians. There is no need for firearms in this day of age. The days of hunting are no longer needed. And as we can see, the government and law enforcement were able to secure the threat during the marathon bombing manhunt.

All citizens and those staying in the U.S. are required to have a Patriot card. This is a federally recognized ID, that has a GPS chip located in it in case it is lost. It times of emergency, these chips can also help located lost people. Those caught without their ID, face severe mandatory sentences

All currency is to be digital. All cash currency whether Federal Reserve notes, or foreign are banned. This also includes gold, silver. Those visiting the country can deposit their currency onto their Patriot Card, which will be accepted everywhere for trade.

Any access to the internet will require a registered log in. This log in will require the use of the persons Patriot card. Those accessing the internet through hacking, or the use of another’s card. Face severe mandatory sentencing.

All video taping of law enforcement or those working on the behalf of the Federal government is illegal.

Posse comitatus is to be null and void.

Habeas corpus is to be null and void.

The governors control over the National Guard is to be removed, and solely given to the Commander in Chief

Please support any solutions in the works to help achieve these goals. One that is progressing it’s way through to vote, is CISPA. This helps tracks what the terrorist are using the internet for. Whether it be emails, google searches, business transactions etc etc. Thank you for your support patriots, and let’s work together to help with a safer America and new world.

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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 19 April 2013 at 9:48pm

Don't you ever get tired of this shtick?

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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 19 April 2013 at 9:55pm

Having the U.S. keep getting attacked? Yes

Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 19 April 2013 at 11:03pm

I was approx one hour away from arriving at King Cross station when it exploded.

I still don't think we need to change the way we go about our lives as a result of numpties of the highest order.

Haters gonna hate, I'm going to get on with my stuff. I won't bat an eyelid about being in a crowded public event. I won't give a toss if I am on an aircraft with a brown person. I could't show you two *poops* that you could rub together relating to how I feel about firearms. (admittedly a position I have not always held and also not a major issue here)

It's either devil's advocate or trolling.

Please make your point in a less facetious manner.

EDIT

*re-read and it appears in a rare moment of inebriation I may have missed the point and just had a ramble

Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 19 April 2013 at 11:28pm

Cool story, bro. Tell it again.

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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 19 April 2013 at 11:33pm

The suspect wasn't read Miranda rights. Now that's what I'm talking about!

Hopefully he's tried in a military court.

Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 20 April 2013 at 3:34am

Off topic (I think), but the joke being passed around Facebook about registering pressure cookers made me giggle.

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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 20 April 2013 at 6:42am

impulse418 wrote:

The suspect wasn't read Miranda rights. Now that's what I'm talking about!

Hopefully he's tried in a military court.

You do know when Miranda rights are read, correct? The guy was bleeding out, and in critical condition, why did he need to be read his rights?

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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 20 April 2013 at 7:02am

usafpilot07 wrote:

impulse418 wrote:

The suspect wasn't read Miranda rights. Now that's what I'm talking about!

Hopefully he's tried in a military court.

You do know when Miranda rights are read, correct? The guy was bleeding out, and in critical condition, why did he need to be read his rights?

Before questioning. He seemed to be in pretty stable condition, who knows how fast they started the questioning.

I wondered if he kept his mouth shut, and lawyered up.

Edit: Quote and link

"A senior Justice Department official told ABC News that federal law enforcement officials are invoking the public safety exception to the Miranda rights, so that Tsarnaev will be questioned immediately without having Miranda rights issued to him."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-bomb-suspect-captured-alive-backyard-boat/story?id=18994511&#.UXJ1nVu8iM_" rel="nofollow - http://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-bomb-suspect-captured-alive-backyard-boat/story?id=18994511&#.UXJ1nVu8iM_

Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 20 April 2013 at 10:13am

Haha, the poor man and his beloved boat.

Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 20 April 2013 at 10:50am

I'm curious if the guy was unarmed, or so completely out of it that he didn't fight back when he was in the boat.

Also, I could totally see them finding an AR15 and Barack/the media uses it to shove some stupid awb again.

Also, I really hate the conspiracy theories

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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 20 April 2013 at 4:58pm

impulse418 wrote:

usafpilot07 wrote:

impulse418 wrote:

The suspect wasn't read Miranda rights. Now that's what I'm talking about!

Hopefully he's tried in a military court.

You do know when Miranda rights are read, correct? The guy was bleeding out, and in critical condition, why did he need to be read his rights?

The public safety exception is pretty precise concerning what it applies to. Considering the number of bombs/weapons/etc. these guys had, it makes sense for them to question him about potentially missed devices without waiting for him to be appointed a lawyer.

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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 21 April 2013 at 9:24am

I feel when this nation is in a state of emergency. All non official social media accounts, should be disabled from being able to post.

Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 21 April 2013 at 9:39am

usafpilot07 wrote:

impulse418 wrote:

usafpilot07 wrote:

impulse418 wrote:

The suspect wasn't read Miranda rights. Now that's what I'm talking about!

Hopefully he's tried in a military court.

You do know when Miranda rights are read, correct? The guy was bleeding out, and in critical condition, why did he need to be read his rights?

Its exactly the same sort of situation as if there had been a victim buried alive in a back yard or some other time-sensitive situation. The public safety exception really sort of makes sense. Having someone be able to clam up if it means the deaths of one or many others is a pretty sour move.

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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 21 April 2013 at 10:42am

impulse418 wrote:

Banning
     of all explosives, propellants and anything chemical that can potentially
     be made into a bomb. Such as black powder, smokeless power, fertilizer,
     primers etc etc. Farmers will still be able to fertilize their crops, but
     this task will be handled by the government

You do realize this would mean banning things like flour as well? All propane/butane/LPG would also be banned.

KBK

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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 21 April 2013 at 10:44am

Unfortunately I don't if it's possible to live in a world where nothing like this could happen again. The control a government would have to exert over citizens and society would be so over policed and scrutinized that it would suffocate you. Even then, would we ever really be safe from events like this? I like the post that Patton Oswalt made, kind of sums up how I feel

"Boston. ******* horrible.

I remember, when 9/11 went down, my reaction was, "Well, I've had it with humanity."

But I was wrong. I don't know what's going to be revealed to be behind all of this mayhem. One human insect or a poisonous mass of broken sociopaths.

But here's what I DO know. If it's one person or a HUNDRED people, that number is not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population on this planet. You watch the videos of the carnage and there are people running TOWARDS the destruction to help out. (Thanks FAKE Gallery founder and owner Paul Kozlowski for pointing this out to me). This is a giant planet and we're lucky to live on it but there are prices and penalties incurred for the daily miracle of existence. One of them is, every once in awhile, the wiring of a tiny sliver of the species gets snarled and they're pointed towards darkness.

But the vast majority stands against that darkness and, like white blood cells attacking a virus, they dilute and weaken and eventually wash away the evil doers and, more importantly, the damage they wreak. This is beyond religion or creed or nation. We would not be here if humanity were inherently evil. We'd have eaten ourselves alive long ago.

So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, "The good outnumber you, and we always will."

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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 21 April 2013 at 11:17am

Not sure why people are praising those who ran into the kill zone, before it was secure.

Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 21 April 2013 at 11:31am

Not sure why people keep feeding the trolls.

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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 21 April 2013 at 11:35am

evillepaintball wrote:

Not sure why people keep feeding the trolls.

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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 21 April 2013 at 1:33pm

impulse418 wrote:

Not sure why people are praising those who ran into the kill zone, before it was secure.

There is always the chance of follow on attacks, or first responder targeted attacks.

It does not invalidate people being willing and able to help those in need. Even at the expense of danger to themselves.

How would it have been worse if another bomb had gone off? The death toll would have been up from 3 to 6?

KBK

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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 21 April 2013 at 6:44pm

I'm not doubting that people will run to help, but we should inform people to step back and wait till the area is* secure.

Back on the miranda rights. Should he be tried as a enemy combatant?

Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 21 April 2013 at 9:37pm

impulse418 wrote:

Not sure why people are praising those who ran into the kill zone, before it was secure.

The first rule is always 'do no harm', to others or yourself. Yet, when a situation happens where people are in a fire, bad accident or the boston bombing, sometimes people move into action regardless of their own safety. It might seem foolish, or easy to comment on a forum when none here can say, 'I was there so they were stupid', but I find it remarkable and I am in awe of those that do in these situations. I bet the families of those helped would differ with you.

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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 21 April 2013 at 11:12pm

impulse418 wrote:

I'm not doubting that people will run to help, but we should inform people to step back and wait till the area is* secure.

Maybe it's because I grew up in South Africa in the 80's but I'm perfectly aware of the risk involved.

That would not stop me helping. A risk is just that, it is not definite.

Everything you do, including swallowing food, is risky. Accept it and drive on. If everyone is afraid to enter a dangerous situation you'll never get any emergency service.

KBK

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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 22 April 2013 at 12:09am

Many people have what psychologist would call altruism. We have an innate want to help others. These people just acted upon it because it is instinct and the people that got the help will be forever grateful.

Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 22 April 2013 at 3:26am

They are not enemy combatants as we are not in a state of war or armed conflict with their parent country. So, no, they should not be treated as "enemy combatants". It would be more appropriate to charge/treat them as a-holes.

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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 22 April 2013 at 10:58am

I'd rather see him convicted as an American and then put into general population.

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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 22 April 2013 at 4:37pm

^^^

I'm good with that.

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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 22 April 2013 at 4:54pm

evillepaintball wrote:

They are not enemy combatants as we are not in a state of war or armed conflict with their parent country. So, no, they should not be treated as "enemy combatants". It would be more appropriate to charge/treat them as a-holes.

Don't tell the rednecks on Facebook this.

And yeah, general population sounds like a plan to me.

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