glock 42
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Topic: glock 42
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Subject: glock 42
Date Posted: 13 October 2014 at 9:11pm
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Prior to actually seeing the g42 it was difficult to grasp how small it is. Looking at pictures was difficult for me to imagine that it isn't a full size gun. Typical Glock in almost every way with the exception of an accessory rail which without an actual size reference, and until i held one to realize that it's way too narrow for the rail. I'm typically not a small gun person in the least. This is the only compact that has remotely felt right and the addition of an extended floor plate is a nice addition that doesn't take away from its packability in the least. I did however come close to destroying the stock plate removing it. If you're in the market for a compact, this one is worth checking out. |
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 14 October 2014 at 7:47am
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Never been a Glock fan myself. I've never seen the advantage over other firearms which cost half as much, but that's just me. If you have a chance to pick up a book in the near future, http://www.amazon.com/Glock-The-Rise-Americas-Gun/dp/0307719952/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413287153&sr=8-1&keywords=Glock+biography" rel="nofollow - pick up this one. It's a really interesting read and goes to great lengths about how Glock became the choice of LEAs (hint: it has nothing to do with quality). ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 18 October 2014 at 4:20am
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What guns cost half a Glocks price? I'm not a fanboy of Glocks, but I do like them. They tend to work. I have not come across the issues with current 9mm extractors/ejectors. On that note I may be looking for a CZ 75 to shoot in IDPA matches. The 42 is a nice gun. If you know the internals of a Glock you know the internals of your 42. The only thing I'm not keen on is the .380 ACP That may be my bias showing though. As a small easy to carry gun I think they got it just right on the 42. ------------- Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. H = 2 |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 18 October 2014 at 9:24am
| I hear that kmart has some really sweet Turkish made squirt guns for super cheap if you know the secret password. |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 18 October 2014 at 1:54pm
I feel the same way. I have no clue about guns, but I would really like to get a handgun, but keep everything on the inexpensive side. That would include a gun class, gun, ammo, license, and a proper storage device. I feel like it would all be too expensive for me right now.
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Lightningbolt wrote:Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 18 October 2014 at 7:26pm
I don't know where you live, but very few States require any permitting. Classes can be free, and a safe is under $100 for one handgun FWIW. ------------- 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 18 October 2014 at 7:42pm
I can get Caniks (Turkish CZ clones) and Arcus pistols for sub $300 all day long, not to mention many others. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 18 October 2014 at 8:01pm
| G42s aren't remotely close to 600. A tad over 400. |
Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 19 October 2014 at 4:58pm
It blows my mind that they did .380 instead of 9mm. Maybe a 9mm is coming next, but for how hot single stack 9mm's are right now, I can't figure out any reason they would have started with a .380. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 20 October 2014 at 11:01am
Right now, my price on Canik 55s is $225ea So, pretty close to half of the G42 ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 20 October 2014 at 1:38pm
| the 42 is on my radar for my first handgun purchase. Mostly because I want a gun my wife can handle and she has small hands. |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 20 October 2014 at 3:14pm
bingo |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 20 October 2014 at 6:08pm
My bet would be that it's the same business principle as Apple. If you release the 9mm first, way less people will go back and buy a .380 as well. BUT, let the first gun you make in this size a .380, and people still buy it because it's the hot new thing/only caliber option. A lot of gun people will still buy the 9mm when it comes out too. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 20 October 2014 at 8:12pm
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No question caniks look like they have great reviews other than they seem to be heavy for a carry gun with duty holsters suggested for carry. The 380 is an option for people that can't handle the recoil of the 9. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 20 October 2014 at 9:02pm
Wut?!  ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 20 October 2014 at 9:09pm
| Yeah,. It's tough to watch sometimes. |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 21 October 2014 at 10:49am
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Random gun-thread-hijack post. My dads Sig P220 blew up. I think it fired out of battery. First time shooting it, and I was using WWB. Their customer service offered to do a courtesy safety check at his expense which I think is BS. I'm trying to email them and I can't get a solid email address.  -------------
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Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 21 October 2014 at 12:55pm
| As long as no one got hurt. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 21 October 2014 at 1:00pm
Did the magazine blow out the bottom of the firearm? ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 21 October 2014 at 2:02pm
That actually makes sense. Cashing on on fanboyism.
Whoa. Any hand damage? |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 21 October 2014 at 2:59pm
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Nope. No injuries thankfully. Tallen, no. But you can see where the hot has was in the magazine area and it blew out the much weaker wooden grip. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 22 October 2014 at 9:45am
That's what leaves me to believe it was only partially out of battery (enlarged case neck, too deep a bullet seat, etc) rather than a true fire-out-of-battery failure which generally results in much greater damage. Normally you see frame and slide separation and frame damage resulting from out-of-battery. Did you check the spent casing? Was there case head separation at all? ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 24 October 2014 at 11:37am
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Oh ok there aren't any of those around but I do see what you're saying. We do get some Turkish stuff bit it is close to the price or the Glocks. And Glock spare parts are easier to get. ------------- Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. H = 2 |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 24 October 2014 at 2:27pm
Makes sense. The Turks' biggest consumer of civilian firearms is the US currently, so I think most of their production is coming this way. Seeing a lot of Turkish ammo (especially 7.62NATO) showing up over here too. There was a hell of a deal on their CZ75 clone about a year ago. Shorty got 3 brand new ones for something like $620 shipped. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 24 October 2014 at 3:30pm
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Huh that is a point. Like I said I'm looking for a CZ75. Maybe I should look at theirs. ------------- Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. H = 2 |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 24 October 2014 at 5:04pm
I'll check with Shorty, but I think he said everything was interchangeable, sights, mags, etc. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 24 October 2014 at 7:44pm
| I've been trying to convince a shooting partner to get a cz for a few years now. |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 04 November 2014 at 10:18am
My latest gun obsession is this:   The third pic is of a 22, which is the same size. There are only a few things I don't like. I would have preferred 9mm, a non-ambi safety, night sites, a steel or aluminum frame, and a Pony on the slide. I LOVE the size from the pictures, and I shoot 1911s very well. Should make a good carry piece. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 04 November 2014 at 12:22pm
Meanwhile, in Tallen-Land: ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 04 November 2014 at 1:38pm
| Nice looking 1911. I'm looking at a ruger sr9 right now for a female. Anyone shot or own one? |
Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 05 November 2014 at 4:56am
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Ooh I like that 2/3 scale 1911. What pump gun is that, and 1897? KBK ------------- Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. H = 2 |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 05 November 2014 at 10:16am
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Tallen bought something NOT made by a obscure manufacturer in an eastern bloc country?!? -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 05 November 2014 at 12:03pm
Yup! 1917 takedown model with 20" barrel that's been modified to accept interchangeable chokes. She's diiiiiirrrrrty. Needs a really good cleaning which I hope to achieve this Sunday. Tearing one of these down is a bit different than a modern firearm. Mainly, it's just gunked up from oil and powder residue so the action is a bit sluggish.
This happens on occasion. For example, the Argentine made Mk-IV FAL I built on a Century receiver, or my recent acquisition of 4 Spanish 1916 Guarda Civil Mausers in .308. Interestingly enough, since I started hunting, I've come to appreciate good old-fashioned 'Merican wood and steel a lot more from a historical and artistic standpoint. Mind you, when it comes down to it, I'll still be buying a CZ "Mallard" 20ga for trap, skeet, and birds. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 05 November 2014 at 12:48pm
| I found out I just inherited an old Ithaca Featherlight from my grandpa. That, paired up with the winchester SXP I just bought for duck/goose/turkey, and I'm really going to need to invest in a safe. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 05 November 2014 at 9:02pm
I use a 10-gun Stack-On locking cabinet right now. It's full. It's a disease man. Once you get a cabinet/safe, you suddenly realize how empty it looks and thus, how many more guns you need to keep the others from getting lonely. Then, ultimately, you buy one gun too many, and it won't fit in the safe, so you have to buy another safe, and that one lone gun in in there? Well, you can't let it get lonely right? It's a vicious cycle. Sweet deal on the Ithaca Featherlight! I've always liked bottom-ejecting shotties like the 37. Just something so clean looking about them. If it's a pre-75 there's not trigger disconnect so it'll slam-fire if you hold the trigger down while pumping just like the Winchester M97. Speaking of, I finally got confident enough that I could clean that 1897 tonight. It's a good thing I did too as the last time it had been cleaned was in nineteen-hundred-and-for-freaking-ever-ago.... It took thread penetrating oil just to get the screws out to take it apart. Then I literally had to scrape decades of residue off of the action parts with a plastic putty knife to get back down to the metal. When I first got it, the action was really sluggish and "sticky" on the back stroke. Now she's smooth as butter. Just need to steam and sand the stock where the pistol grip has so much abuse, and then stain and re-finish it. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 05 November 2014 at 9:29pm
| Nothing like having wooden shish kabob skewers for gun cleaning. Nice little sacrificial tool that can be custom shaped with a utility knife. Great for cleaning tough to get at areas. |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 05 November 2014 at 10:17pm
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I wasn't able to find a decent cabinet with shelves for pistols, so I ended up with a Field and Stream 16 gun safe. It's a Chinese made version of Stack-On made for Dick's. Ammo and pistols on one side, long guns on the other. It should last me a few more years before needing to expand. ------------- 
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 06 November 2014 at 12:19am
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Electrolysis is awesome if there is a lot of surface rust on the Winnie. Plus, it's fun to put electrical connectors in water. -------------
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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 06 November 2014 at 12:57am
| My pops gave me his old marlin 60. The rust rust isn't terrible, but 20 years in the AZ attic did wonders on the stock. Any suggestions on the rust removal and refinishing the stock? |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 06 November 2014 at 5:50am
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Rust Removal? Electrolysis, and I'm serious. Wont damage the bluing thays left either. Touch up with cold blue or just oil it after. Wood stock... Strip, lightly sand, stain if wanted then polyurethane. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 06 November 2014 at 9:10am
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I'll second the electrolysis for rust removal. That's how I pull all the fouling and rust out of the milsurp bores I have. I've even got the M44 stripped down and waiting in a walpaper prep tray for an electrolysis run for the surface rust this weekend. There's not much surface rust on the Winchester. The bluing is definitely worn, but it's got that nice patina you want as a collector. I AM half-arguing with myself to get it re-blued, but there's some damage to the exterior end of the barrel (someone dropped it at some point, but it doesn't affect patterning or shooting) so it's just not worth it for me right now unless I get a replacement barrel for it (it's a take-down model, so those can be hard to come by). The action is 1000% smoother now than it was when I pulled it out of the box. Can't wait to get it out there and have fun. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: deadeye007
Date Posted: 06 November 2014 at 2:01pm
I have my grandfather's model 37. Its a 20 gauge made in the fifties, and it is a beauty. I hunted with it in my teens, but now I don't want to risk damaging it while hunting. ------------- Face it guys, common sense is a form of wealth and we're surrounded by poverty.-Strato |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 06 November 2014 at 7:10pm
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Tallen, think twice about re-bluing it. It could drop it's value and it just looks tough and mean with out the shiny finish. My latest trade is this, well not exactly pictured. Mine needs some restoration and a factory rear sight.  ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 09 November 2014 at 9:58pm
Nice! Is yours set for Lyman peep sights too? Here's my other current project I've been working on. AIM Surplus had a $99 "Project Grade" sale on some pretty trashed M44s. What was interesting about them is that they came in without refurbishment marks, and they were all matching (not force-matched) with the exception of the bolts. Mine came with a Chicom T-53 bolt and Chu-wood splices. It obviously saw some time in the PLA after its use by the Soviets. It then made its way back west via Albania and was an afterthought along with some others that got mixed into a shipment of PLA surplus SKSs. Anyway, took forever to get her torn down, get the cosmo out of the wood, and then set-up a receiver sized electrolysis rig to de-rustify the sucker. Came out well though! I doubt I'll ever shoot her. There's some pretty deep pitting on the bottom of the exterior of the BBL. I doubt it's enough to cause an issue, but it makes me nervous. Never mind the fact that she's so rusty on the exterior that it'd be difficult to properly clean if I used corrosive ammo. I've got a T-53 in great shape and a restored M91/30 to shoot anyway. This M44 was always meant to be an "investment" anyway.  ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 10 November 2014 at 12:14am
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Got the ithaca today and shot some sporties... well... tried. Loaded 2 shells. Bang, pump, bang, jammed. Not sure if it's the real low steel shells I was shooting or something internal. Either way my dad's going to take in to his local gunsmith to tear it down and take a look if anything needs to be fixed up. The thing feels great though. If I can get it cycling it's going to be a great clay shooting gun.
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 10 November 2014 at 1:15am
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Nice M44. Mine was beat to hell when I got it, so I didn't mind refinishing her, even though she was numbers matching. I think she's happier this way. I just wish I would have gone with stain or oil instead of polyurethane (dad's idea). -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 10 November 2014 at 2:36pm
"Sedona Red" stain with a heavy shellac coating is "period correct" for all soviet MNs. I chose to simply poly my 91/30 as it wasn't matching and I literally paid $75 for it back in the day. If I get another 91/30 I'll go period correct.
Probably just needs a good cleaning and tune-up. If there's anything I've learned in all of my years of shooting, it's that .22 rifles and shotguns never get cleaned.... ever. Like I said, I had 3mm of crud in some areas of the action of that 1897. Oh, people will clean the bolt face and the barrel, but that's it.... ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 11 November 2014 at 12:01am
| Yeah, my dad insisted on taking it to the smith... and paying for it. So I really couldn't say no. It's in better hands anyway. |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 12 November 2014 at 5:38pm
| Had a similar issue with the old model 12. Decades of built up 3-in-1 oil, hemlock needles, and carbon, and I needed to square off a lug on the underside of the bolt with a file to stop shells from popping out on top of the carrier under recoil. The thing is back to running like a champ and turning heads. I usually take it out for at least one day of deer season if it's not raining. |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 12 November 2014 at 8:52pm
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I actually really like projects like that. There was an old Winchester pump at the gunstore for $75 I almost bought, but the $75 was asking too much. Looks like it sat outside since 1974. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 12 November 2014 at 10:52pm
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So, I've got this insanely redneck buddy (he's my hunting partner) who is also old enough to be my dad (his son is actually a year older than me). He's the head of maintenance at the school where I'm contracted (he calls it semi-retired as he used to be one of the biggest custom home building contractors in the area) so we always get a chance to hang out during work and talk about hunting, guns, trucks, etc. He also does the Santa gig at our lower school every year as he's a dead ringer when you put a red suit on him. He came over today to do the Christmas Card picture with Reilly, but before he did that, the first words out of his mouth were "I want to see that Winchester!" I took him and his son downstairs and you'd have though I was Santa when I handed it over to them. They're huge fans of classic shotguns and hunting rifles and they both just drooled over that sucker. Now I've got them wanting ones of their very own. I guess I'll have to keep an eye out for some longer barrel takedown models so they can get themselves some "new-old goose guns" as they put it. Gotta love having friends that appreciate the same things you do. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 13 November 2014 at 6:16pm
| Don't refinish that Winchester! But do keep it well-oiled, TC Bore Butter works pretty good for the exterior. My Grandfather used to let some older guy and his son hunt the property every year and they both used their grandfather's 97's. The Dad finally missed the first deer in the shotgun's family history a few years ago. Haven't heard from those guys since the old man passed away. They had good luck with Brennekkes even in the fixed full-choke. Federal Tru-ball seems to do well from the M12 fixed-modified. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 13 November 2014 at 7:17pm
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I'm keeping it well oiled with Rem Oil at the moment and am eventually going to go to Tetra Grease for the action. The stock must be refinished, but that's simply a steam-sand-seal job. The protective finish (varnish or shellac) has long since worn off. I'm going to go with the proper finish coat, but it's gotta be done or else I'll be replacing it down the road with something that really isn't original to the gun at all. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 13 November 2014 at 9:44pm
| I recently made the switch from remoil which I've been using since the 80s to break free cpl which to my understanding some troops use for their guns. I like that it supposedly penetrates the metal. I'm liking it after maybe 20 to 30 cleanings on everything from pistols, shotguns, and carbines. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 14 November 2014 at 7:19am
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Yeah, I use CLP for my post-range cleanings and then use Rem Oil for surface rust prevention and Tetra gun grease for moving parts. I got into using gun grease when I bought my Swiss K31 since you're never to use oil on them. I found it worked so well not only at improving the characteristics of the action, but preventing rust AND making clean-up easier (your impurities get caught by the grease where they stay rather than working their way in to the hard-to-reach places). The caveat is that you really should clean after every use when using grease (due to the aforementioned trapping of impurities) so if you're a lazy shooter like most of my range buddies, it's probably out of the question. But I use it on all of my modern firearms and most of my relics as well. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 14 November 2014 at 7:22am
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I dislike tetra grease strongly. I had a tube and the stuff separated and will not mix again. I recommend Hoppes grease. I also use CLP. The military CLP is not the same as the commercial stuff, although I have no idea if either is superior. I only use surplus military stuff for no reason other than my dad started me with it and I like it. -------------
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 14 November 2014 at 12:15pm
| Here's a question. I know how to care for all the metal on my shotguns. I have some remoil wipes that I use on the outside in between complete tear downs and know how to keep the action running smooth. But, is there anything I need to do to the wood to keep it looking good? So far I've been doing nothing other than wiping everything dry before I put it away. |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 14 November 2014 at 6:54pm
| The occasional rub-down with some good old boiled linseed oil has been what I've been doing for years. |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 14 November 2014 at 7:04pm
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Anyone have a recommendation for a .22LR Bolt action? I've been looking at the Marlin XT22 which seems like a great buy for the price. -------------
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Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 14 November 2014 at 11:53pm
I've enjoyed my model 60 for about 25 years but have no experience with the xt22 and it has been absolutely trouble free and shoots very well. The only thing I don't like about it is that at the time the only place I could find the metric scope mount that was required was at cabellas in one of those tables with a bunch of junk piled on it. Not sure if the dovetail would be metric on the one you're looking at. |
Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 15 November 2014 at 1:45pm
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I use Slip2000 or Slip EWL. I have recently tried grease on my 1911 but had more issues than when I use Slip. ------------- Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. H = 2 |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 16 November 2014 at 5:45pm
| On the marlin conversation I confused my model 60 with another gun that I purchased around the same time regarding metric dovetail. |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 16 November 2014 at 8:26pm
| On electrolysis, how do you guys think it does to clean carbon buildup and are you concerned about it changing the tolerances of metal parts on important things such as engine components? |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 16 November 2014 at 9:53pm
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I know a lot of guys use it to clean rusty gas tanks, but I'd be iffy about using it on anything that requires tight tolerances simply due to the fact that you are removing metal on a molecular level. To remove carbon, google "carbon off" you can buy it at Amazon and it works great. It's how we remove caked on carbon from the bottoms of saute pans in the restaurant world. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 16 November 2014 at 11:06pm
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Depends on the engine components. Generally, I don't think you're going to damage anything. If you're going to use a wire brush on say an engine head or something, I doubt electrolysis will damage it. The block wouldn't be worth it, the crank and rods are better off going to a machine shop, the pistons are aluminum, etc. -------------
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 25 November 2014 at 7:42pm
No You Didn't!!! ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 28 November 2014 at 10:15am
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Someone suggested it. They swore by it and use it on their Les Baer. ------------- Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. H = 2 |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 28 November 2014 at 6:17pm
| Anyone shot the Remington 1911 r1? |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 01 December 2014 at 12:49am
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http://aliengearholsters.com/ these holsters look fantastic. Check them out. |
Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 02 December 2014 at 12:33am
| I have an Aegis Armory hybrid holster. I think my friend who recommended them to me now has three. About $60 and less than a two week wait, which you won't find from the better-known manufacturers. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 03 December 2014 at 9:46am
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I've alwayas thought the alien gear holsters seemed huge. I have a Bianchi IWB and love it. Stitched leather on the outside, combat cut, padded mesh on the body side. Just under 60 bucks I think. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |