But, I could get an AK...
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Topic: But, I could get an AK...
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Subject: But, I could get an AK...
Date Posted: 30 November 2015 at 11:05am
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So I got rear ended again... Damage is very minimal on my TSX and since it has 260,000 miles... I'm thinking of just skipping getting it fixed. (a few scratches on the bumper and one little dent in it... I could likely buff most of it out and touch up the rest. I got a check from his insurance for over $600... And I've been thinking about getting an AR type weapon. I remember a bunch of you guys building them, is it cheaper to do that than to buy a low cost AR? They sell some at rural king that are dirt cheap... But, I know nothing about them... It would be kind of fun to build one, but I want to get the cheapest I can as this is just for goofing around with... Ideas would be helpful! Including where you got stuff, what works well, what to avoid... ect. Thanks guys! ------------- They tremble at my name... 
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Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 30 November 2015 at 11:58am
| If you want to nerd out and pick and choose every little part, building is fun. If you'd rather just pay money and go shoot, you can pick up a Ruger AR556 for about $600 and be set. |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 30 November 2015 at 1:56pm
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Both are stupid cheap right now. You will probably save a few dollars by buying an assembled rifle. Now is the time to buy. ------------- 
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 30 November 2015 at 2:51pm
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Yeah, that is what I was thinking... They are so cheap that I'm sure they will go up sooner or later... I remember when anything was over $1,500... And it wasn't that long ago! I'm gonna checkout rural king and see what they have... ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 30 November 2015 at 4:02pm
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Depends on use. AK platforms are fun plinkers <200m, AR's more in the >300m range. Ammunition is another cost issue. Ex east block 7.62X39 and newer 5.45X39 still avail in bulk and cheaper than 5.56X45. I have a AR series CAR-15 carbine, great pest removal rifle here at the farm, Have a AK that is a fun paper shooter, but hittin critters at range not so good. A $500 AK platform, leaves $100 for a few more mags and maybe a good sight. $600 is a great down payment on a Springfield Armory M1A (M-14) if you really want a 'good' rifle. ------------- 
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 30 November 2015 at 4:29pm
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While M1As are nice, they are somewhat stagnant. ARs float in price and now they are dirt cheap. Look to see what Palmetto state armory offers. You could probably have an AR of your choice under 500. Then comes a choice of barrel length, sights, stock, etc. I have an M16A1 build kit myself. BUY MAGS AND AMMO NOW! even if you only see yourself needing two magazines and shooting two boxes of ammo a year, both of those things are so ridiculously cheap that there is no excuse to not buy them. Pmags were going for $50 and 5.56 was about $1/round recently. Pmags are now $12.50 and 30 round aluminums are under $10. Prices will jump soon. -------------
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 30 November 2015 at 7:24pm
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Oh, if you get an AK you can always trade it for a tattoo -------------
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 30 November 2015 at 10:00pm
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Define 'stagnant'. I love that reach out and touch distance of 7.62X51 that 5.56 can only dream about. If you need all the add on's to shoot, might want to re-evaluate your skill set. I got my CAR and looking at a Legacy upper for memory sake, old habits hard to break, got the A1 butt stock. I do Nebraska State Games with my M1A, again old habits. -------------
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 30 November 2015 at 10:30pm
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Stagnant economically. AR15s and AKs fluctuate quite a bit and standard M1As always float around $1200 and up. They aren't threatened by AWBs too much so it is not as much of a concern to buy now. I myself want an M14, but a Garand or a nice 308 M77 is much more likely. Nothing anytime soon. Also, none of my firearms have doodads, and only one rifle (22lr Henry) isn't milsurp  -------------
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 30 November 2015 at 11:03pm
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Yea price wise they hang at $1200 or so. Mine is an old timer back in the days of $800. I sold my old CMP M1 Garands, BIG mistake as I miss em and a new SA M1 will cost more than I sold both for. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 01 December 2015 at 7:45am
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CMP sill has plenty of Garands for sub $800 in shootable condition, it's just a wait to get them since they're low on armorers and gunsmiths to cobble together good guns from the well-used ones they have in the warehouses. On a side note, Obama apparently signed the NDAA bill into law that is going to allow the US Gov't to sell off their stocks of 1911s via CMP. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 01 December 2015 at 8:15am
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Looking at a 'new' M1 Garand as that to is going to be a NSG shooter as well. I have 2 wartime M-1911's may pick up another or two from CMP. Still looking for a good priced FN L1A1 or similar mil style,full size. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 01 December 2015 at 9:02am
Parts kit build from SARCO is the way to go. Just make sure that you get the kit first and the receiver second, that way if you wind up with an Argentine lower, you can get the proper coonan "argie cut" receiver so you don't have to go grinding on your upper. I built mine in the height of the panic for sub $800. These days you're looking at about the same for a PK from SARCO, a new BBL, and a coonan receiver. Not bad really. Only unexpected expenses would be from a receiver wrench and barrel vise, locking shoulder, gauge pins (you can borrow mine if you need) and any other 922r compliance parts (yeah... it's 922r compliant... uhuh!). If you get in good with the guys from FALfiles.com, you can usually borrow a wrench and vise or rent one for way cheaper than buying. Even if you had to buy, you're talking sub $1k vs buying new from DSA for $1200 or more ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
oldsoldier wrote:Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 01 December 2015 at 9:43am
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Sarco is one of the coolest stores to walk through. I need to go again, the new girlfriend lives not far from it. I need a USGI 1911. I will do everything possible to get one if the CMP actually sells them. -------------
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 01 December 2015 at 12:50pm
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OS, if you decide to get another CMP Garand, I recommend the Special grade in .308. That way you don't have to worry which ammo you put through it as it can handle any commercial 308 loads. New 30-06 is loaded at too high of a pressure for the Garand and can damage your oprod. ------------- 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 01 December 2015 at 1:23pm
INFIDEL! .308 and Garand should never be used in the same sentence, let alone combined in a platform! As for the commercial ammo for the M1 Garand, they make a nice "bolt on" selective gas plug (really a gas valve) that doesn't do anything to change the rifle in a permanent manner. Lets you shoot commercial all day long without damaging your op rod. Also, a bunch of commercial loaders are loading M2 Ball spec now. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 01 December 2015 at 3:01pm
Or you can trade your tattoo for an AK. Don't know what the exchange rate is these days. -------------  irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 01 December 2015 at 3:15pm
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When I saw the title I genuinely thought this was a thread about tattoos. This forum broke me. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 01 December 2015 at 6:07pm
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Man I would like to get a Ruger AR556. I was looking at the S&W M&P15 for awhile and was considering that. But everything I've read on the Ruger tells me this is the way to go. Roughly the same price as the S&W but has the dust cover and the forward assist. The couple of local places that have them or can get them have them in the $740 range. Was kind of hoping for about $50-$100 less than that, but oh well. Looks like a solid starter AR. ------------- 
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 December 2015 at 9:53am
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The ruger has a chrome inner barrel as well, the other cheap models don't... That alone seems to make the 556 the best deal. They had them at Rural King for $595 with a $75 in store credit. And a few weeks ago they were selling them for $500... But they sold out in minutes. ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 December 2015 at 9:55am
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I saw an interesting cheap gun while out looking. hi point 9mm carbine... I can get one for $226... And I already have thousands and thousands of rounds... What says the forum on something like that?? ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 02 December 2015 at 10:59am
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Not a fan of High Point personally. Cheaply made, miserable reliability, etc. They've gotten better over the years, but not to the point that I'd ever trust my life to one. As something to just take to the range that looks cool? Yeah. But as something I might use for any other purpose? Nope. As for the chrome lining on the barrels of ARs, don't let that be a make-or-break item. Most barrels are nitrided anymore, which has actually shown to hold up better to wear and use than chrome lining. Add in the fact that you'll never be shooting corrosive ammo, and chrome lining makes even less sense. A lot of civilian market AKs here in the US don't even use them anymore. They were necessary back during the cold war from a military standpoint because combloc ammo was all corrosively primed (because commies suck, and their ammo sucks harder) and given that the cheap ammo on the market in the 90s/00s was all comblock milsurp, people wanted chrome-lined barrels in their SKSs and AK variants so they could worry less about bore pitting. But with modern ammo and nitriding, you'll never need chrome for your barrel in an AR platform. Nitriding is actually BETTER than chrome BTW. Chrome is a plating, nitriding provides superior corrosion resistance and provides for a stronger steel as it is actually a process which affects the makeup of the steel itself rather than just a coating on the top. My CMMG had a nitrided barrel and it was a beast! ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 02 December 2015 at 6:44pm
Found that out....the hard way. Luckily I was able to get my hands on a new op rod, and now have to be selective about the ammo I put through the damn thing. 165 ball ammo does fine, but yeah.....don't shoot 180g soft tips. ------------- ? |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 02 December 2015 at 8:37pm
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There is a specific commercially loaded round for the M1 I use this never had a problem or any surplus I could find. Commercial sport rounds are too hot, and big bullet, too much pressure. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/AMM-675?td_source=search -------------
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 02 December 2015 at 11:11pm
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I don't mind the Hi-point carbines. I've shot both the 9mm and the .40 and they both seemed really decent. They don't have the reach-out-and-touch-me range of a rifle, but can definitely throw lead downrange. A friend of a friend bought one 2nd hand for $50 only to find out it was junk. He called Hi-point for repair and found out there was a lifetime guarantee and got a brand new one after shipping the bad one in. If I were to get a carbine, I'd go Hi-point. -------------
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 02 December 2015 at 11:16pm
I've found them for decent pricing on the Guns For Sale website. I need to have the rifle sent to a local FFL holder for a $25 charge, but it seems worth it considering they are running $100-$150 less then where I can buy them locally. And the latest shooting in CA is making people nervous and may drive the price up as people may start buying irrationally because of the current POTUS. -------------
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Posted By: Panda_Man
Date Posted: 03 December 2015 at 1:29am
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jgsales.com has an awesome deal on a Hungarian Milled Underfolder for $600. unless a gun shop in your area can order from Century arms directly. The new Century Arms AK's are absolutely fantastic. I used a M70A1 few weeks ago that i would easily compare to a Arsenal AK. Also look into a Ruger AR556 for a cheap but good damn AR. As far as Hi-Point. they are ok... Shot plenty of them and they are pretty good in .45acp since they are blocky. if i only had a x amount of money and needed a new handgun i would bet my life on hi-point but. after 500 rounds it may begin to fail quite a bit. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 03 December 2015 at 12:49pm
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Hey OS! SARCO is having a sale on FAL parts and parts kits. 5% off plus free shipping on any orders over $40. It's today only though 12/3/2015. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 03 December 2015 at 1:18pm
yeah, they are made in Dayton, which is only about a half hour drive from me, and I see them all over at gun shows around here. The lifetime warranty (transferable too) makes their low price point and old quality issues seem to be a non issue... I just want one for goofing around with, and having thousands of rounds of 9mm... It seems like a fun toy... ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 03 December 2015 at 7:53pm
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FE, find a few friends who have the rifles that everyone is suggesting, shoot those rifles, and see which one you like. If no one you know has any of them, go to your local ranges to check out what is out there and most shooters are willing to let you shoot a few rounds through them. BUT...You can't go wrong with the FAL or M1A. Strong reliable rifles, great caliber, accurate, and a bit historic. The FAL is known as the Right Arm of the Free World and the M1A, it's a beautiful classic. If you do decide on the M1A, make sure to get the "loaded" model. It's almost National Match (no NM rear sight or glass bedding), depending on your state's laws, you can use it for deer hunting. Hi-point does have very good customer service. Some years back I had the 9mm version I bought from my cousin after the dumb ass rolled over it with his quad, breaking the stock. I called Hi-point inquiring about pricing for a new stock. The CS rep asked for my address and shipped to me free of any charge a new stock. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 03 December 2015 at 8:07pm
My dad picked one up for about $600. You should shop around online. Start on slickguns. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 04 December 2015 at 7:28am
 I'll second that. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 04 December 2015 at 2:39pm
| That's a weird place to keep your anal beads. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 04 December 2015 at 2:50pm
Took me a second. That's the carry handle slick.... ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Panda_Man
Date Posted: 04 December 2015 at 2:55pm
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FAL and M1A are pretty Expensive. Yet, these Century Arms C308 are awesome economical choices. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioNcQ-Cow7s ------------- 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 04 December 2015 at 8:04pm
Yep, because they had such an awful reputation with their CETME and G3 builds that nobody wanted to touch them, so they had to make them dirt cheap to get sales through volume. Luckily, they've learned their lesson about going with less-than-reputable builders and these have turned out well. As for FALs being expensive, not if you build one. Still $800 or so all said and done. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 04 December 2015 at 11:33pm
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If we're naming random guns to buy, SKSs are super fun. FE, I strongly recommend that you buy an AR lower. They're so cheap now and it's a worthwhile investment. -------------
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 05 December 2015 at 3:03am
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 05 December 2015 at 9:57pm
Whatevs, y'all just jealous that I've got a BAMF of a rifle and you don't. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 06 December 2015 at 12:10pm
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If you want an AR, today is the day to buy. I guarantee there will be a rush tomorrow after tonight's speech. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 December 2015 at 10:47am
THIS^^ Stay away from C.A., awful QC. I had the G3 from them, the receiver is poorly stamped. I spent $150 on the claw scope mount made by HK for it's rifles and put it on my C.A. G3, it flew off after the second round. The front site was off so bad that at 100 yards I had to aim at the target stand leg, 1.5 feet right and 1.5 feet down (estimate) I then was able to hit black. WAYYY too much Kentucky Windage IMO and no ability to adjust the front sight and rear sight was for elevation only. Even that seemed it did nothing to the rifle's elevation. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 07 December 2015 at 12:13pm
It ended up being a pretty milquetoast speech, all things considered.
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 07 December 2015 at 12:58pm
Yo, I had to Google it. That ain't cool brah. All predispositions aside it seems like Obama has no definitive strategy for the middle east. -------------
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 08 December 2015 at 11:21am
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I'm not sure anyone does at this point. It's insane how complicated this whole thing's gotten. I got no answers. ------------- irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 08 December 2015 at 12:42pm
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Obama's strategy for the Mid East, put it off for another year, then blame the next guy/gal for screwing it all up. And the gun control thing is a total death for Democrats this close to the election, so they will restart the campaign Jan 2017. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 08 December 2015 at 1:07pm
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It's a difficult situation to be in for sure, but there ARE answers. They're just not answers that look good on an outgoing president's legacy, especially one that is trying to keep his party in power this next election cycle. It all starts with domestic problems that were generated by the Brits and French trying to cobble together nations out of societies that were still very tribal/clan oriented at the end of WWII. Instead of building independent countries post-colonialism along tribal lines, they just used map lines that meant/mean very little for societies which still consider themselves of a particular subgroup first, and of a nation second. The Kurds are a prime example of this. They feel their identity to be Kurdish first, and Iraqi, Turkish, Iranian, Syrian, etc. second. Now, that's not to say that everyone identifies that way, but there are definite divides between some pretty large ethnic and religious groups. Cobbling a nation together out of such diverse entities along modern lines rather than historic ones means you have to have a very strong central government, which is why it's despots who stay in power over there, and why such a power vacuum is created when one of them is overthrown or dies without a strong "heir." Saddam kept Iraq together by fear and force. Same goes for the Saudis and Syria. Jordan has a central figure in the king, and the other smaller entities like Qatar, Kuwait, and the UAE have a much more unified identity (they're smaller in area and have much less diversity in religion and ethnicity) They also have strong central figures in government who maintain order through segregation. That's why stuff falls apart, too many people trying to take control of a "make believe" country that exists by force of will alone. Iraq is a prime example, so was Libya, and Syria is proving to follow suit as well. That's why I think the real solution is to dissolve these countries as they fall apart. The Kurds are the ones doing all the heavy lifting on the ground over there, and they've literally been dying for a country of their own for decades upon decades. Let them keep what they capture. Doing so will start a scramble for the pieces of Syria from its other neighbors in an attempt to not only expand their borders, but prevent the Kurds from becoming a major player in the region. They'll finally commit ground forces and let's face it, Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey, Israel, and the Kurds are all better than a) ISIS, and B) Al Assad. It also prevents massive involvement (outside of supporting Hezbollah in Lebanon) by Iran which will help stabilize the region even more. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 08 December 2015 at 3:23pm
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Yeah, I don't see it getting "fixed" any other way. These problems go way back to when the borders were drawn with no regard to the different groups inhabiting them. ------------- irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 08 December 2015 at 5:11pm
Regardless, the effect was the same. Online inventories for AR-15s dropped and the prices climbed. I was in the midst of nailing down somebody with an FFL to have a rifle shipped to before the speech happened. Found a Ruger AR556 for $585 with $15 shipping. Would cost me $25 for the FFL to receive. That went to the 4 winds. As it stands now, I'd probably be better off paying retail at a local store. So, I think I'll have to wait it out for awhile. In the meantime, I popped out the standard 10rd fixed magazine out of my SKS and ordered two composite 30rd magazines. I already have 1200rds of 7.62x39 I've been sitting on for years. I'll get the AR eventually, but hopefully after the silliness dies down. Man, has the POTUS been good for gun and ammo companies...
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 08 December 2015 at 5:44pm
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Why the 30 rounders for the SKS? They seem less reliable and the stock mag is handy. -------------
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 08 December 2015 at 6:51pm
Mostly because I wanted to try detachable magazines. If they don't work out, I can always pop the 10 rounder back in and get some stripper clips. -------------
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 08 December 2015 at 7:15pm
I see. You may want to try a Chinese fixed 20 rounder -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 08 December 2015 at 7:41pm
I second this. Never had reliable lock-up with detachable mags on SKSs of any make. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 08 December 2015 at 8:08pm
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You guys are not installing confidence... Oh well. On a positive note, my phone upgraded to Android 6.0 Marshmallow.  <And there was much rejoicing>
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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 09 December 2015 at 12:24am
I urged my girlfriend too buy a EBR on Saturday. We went Sunday morning and she picked up a AR556. I'm excited too see how it shoots. |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 09 December 2015 at 2:32am
What did she end up paying, if you don't mind me asking? -------------
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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 09 December 2015 at 9:34am
| $629 |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 09 December 2015 at 11:56am
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Well... I went to get the Ruger AR, it was sold out, they had an another AR for $495, so I was gonna get it, but the guy in line in front of me got the last one... So I got the 9mm Hi Point. Will have to get an AR later. I have so much 9mm ammo that it was fine. Haven't shot it yet, but they are building a new indoor shooting range at the bottom of the hill from my office. Literally walking distance! woot! ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 09 December 2015 at 5:30pm
Wow. Nice! Was looking at local gun websites last night and noticed one had a sale on the Ruger AR556, $100 off for $641! But it also said they were back ordered. Grrrr... So, I decided to go over there this afternoon. For such a small place, they used almost all their wall space. Tons of stuff. As they website said, they were out of the AR556. The 2 they had went out the door the day after the POTUS's speech. So, I put a $100 deposit down. Next one that comes into the store is mine. It is a little more than I wanted to pay, but still a good deal. Talking to one of the salesmen, we joked about Obama's speech. He said he wants to put his picture in a frame with a plaque that says "Salesman of the Year", to which I added, "Seven years running...". Got a good chuckle out of it. So, no idea when they'll get any stock in. The wait begins. -------------
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 09 December 2015 at 5:31pm
When you get a chance to fire it, you'll have to do a camera mount and record it for the rest of us to see. -------------
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 09 December 2015 at 7:36pm
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I probably paid about that or more for my AR during the last freak out. That was with a free stock, barrel, and handguard (thanks again!) so I'd say you didn't do bad -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 09 December 2015 at 8:11pm
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Meanwhile, I'm sitting on several AK blanks and parts kits are getting pretty cheap.... Stormy, keep an eye on CDNN (cdnninvestments.com) they're out of stock on the AR556 as well, but they tend to get things back in VERY quickly so they're a good barometer of the general market. They were the first to start getting regular shipments of bulk .22LR in a while back. Before any of the big box stores even. That's when we knew the market was rebounding back towards normalization. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 09 December 2015 at 10:01pm
I think everyone has a few shovels Tallen -------------
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 09 December 2015 at 11:28pm
| The new WASR AKs are really nice compared to how they used to be, but be sure to look over an AK for sight and gas block cant. Meridian Ordnance and Spivey Arms will do a build for you at a reasonable price if you buy a kit. DDI builds some nice stuff with nitrided barrels. Polish CHF chromes barrels are now available here, and the Random factory is setting up shop to build US AKs, their Beryl looks great if you want a 5.56 AK. Stay away from Palmetto, and the Century C39 guns and their stamped "US Made AK" have crappy cast parts. There is also nothing wrong with the Yugo rifles if you can live without the chromed barrel. I'd love an AR, maybe I'll pick up a lower and some mags but I'd rather pay off my credit card before buying anything I don't really need. I do really like the AK and the beautiful simplicity of it. You still see Saigas around, but usually not in 7.62x39. |
Posted By: deadeye007
Date Posted: 10 December 2015 at 2:18am
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I picked up a Mini 30 today. It is not as loud as my Mini 14. It will make a nice <100 yard pig popper if the pigs ever come back to my deer lease; it's been slow the last two years. ------------- Face it guys, common sense is a form of wealth and we're surrounded by poverty.-Strato |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 10 December 2015 at 9:28am
How did those parts I gave you work out? ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 11 December 2015 at 1:57pm
Awesome! They're still on my AR and will be! -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 11 December 2015 at 10:24pm
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So, not an evil black rifle, but my Riverside Arms 215 Side-by-Side 12ga came in the mail today. Didn't realize it until I took a better look at it, but It's a black walnut stock with a "B" prefix on the serial number, which means it's the higher end one, just a hair below the Savage guns of the same make. It's a "rabbit eared" hammer gun and the bores are perfect. Not sure of what the fixed choke at the end is, but it's definitely got the defined ring of a forcing cone up at the muzzle ends of the barrels when looking from the chamber end down. That means it's smaller than cylinder which is good since I plan on using it for upland birds, ducks, and skeet/trap. Only issue I've found so far is that the front bead is missing (easy to replace) and the stock has a small crack and a chip at the tang. Taking it to a well reviewed gunsmith in the area either this weekend or next week after work to get him to give me a definite chamber length (likely 2-3/4 but for roll crimp, not star crimp) press in a new front bead, make the stock repairs, and get the general A-OK on shooting it. I'll snap some photos tomorrow and post them up. She's pretty for being a "bargain" gun that's closer to 100 years old than 90. Nice checkering, case hardened frame, deep satin blued barrels, and the bores are immaculate. A little clean-up on the locks and receiver and I expect her to turn some heads. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 12 December 2015 at 4:25pm
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My buddy bought a Savage (I think) side by side 20g. I think you could take a caliper and measure the ID of the barrel to find out what it's choked at. His has one cylinder and one is modified. My franchi is in the shop right now... it was shooting both barrels at the same time. In the mean time I've been using my duck gun... a winchester sxp... for pheasants and clays.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 12 December 2015 at 4:47pm
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Evil Black Rifles are so boring anyway. Everyone and their mother (here in Texas, that's literal) has an AK or an AR variant, and I simply find no love for them. The AR's very selling points make it characterless. They don't recoil, they put the bullets where you want them, they're so customizable you can make yours look just like everyone else's... And if you convert them to .308 or any of the fun calibers, they're so expensive to feed you can't properly enjoy a range day. I would do terrible things to get my hands on a Shiloh Sharps, and I've been dying for any number of custom shop Remington No. 1 rolling blocks. Henry also reissued the original Henry Rifle, and maaaaaaan, I'm in lust. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 12 December 2015 at 9:47pm
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This is pretty much what mine looks like, except that mine is a color case-hardened frame with finer checkering patterns given that it was the higher of the two grades. I've got the stock off of it now to be degreased and epoxied where it's got a few hairline cracks that need to be filled to prevent them from spreading. Ran it by the gunsmith today, he said it's A-OK to shoot. Asked me what I paid for it, I told him I won it at auction for $85. He asked me if I even bothered to wear a ski mask to steal it the way I did. Can't wait to get it out to the local trap and skeet club now!  ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 13 December 2015 at 1:29am
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Well, the ProMag 30rd detachable magazines came this morning. Was pretty excited. Tried to put one in the SKS without success. Broke down the rifle and started sanding away at the sides where the mag was sticking to free it up a little. About an hour of experimental sanding later, I could get more free movement, but I couldn't get the magazine to sit correctly. I put the fixed mag and the detachable one nose to nose and noticed the ProMag was slightly wider hence the sanding. Still couldn't get it to sit correctly. When I thought I had it, the bolt would not move forward. So, back to the drawing board. I wanted to try and cheap it out myself but it doesn't look like it'll happen. So, going to exchange the ProMags for (2) 30rd Magpul PMags for the AR 556.
With my above failure, I went a searching online. I found evidence of the 20rd fixed magazines sold online. What they were going for was OBSCENE. Cheapest sale I saw was $62, the most expensive $154! I can't find them anywhere. Saw a lot of bad things about detachable mag conversions while searching for the 20rd fixed. So, I'll just invest in some stripper clips and call it good. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 13 December 2015 at 9:02pm
You're doing it wrong. NEVER sand the furniture, always sand the polymer mag instead. Why? Furniture set is more expensive than the mag by far, and collectors will seriously drop your price when you try to sell it down the road if you've been hacking/sanding on the wood.
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 13 December 2015 at 10:39pm
Oh, I'm never getting rid of the rifle. I purchased it from a dear friend 20 years ago for $130. Not bad for a Norinco SKS. Still packed in cosmoline (that stuff was a bear to clean out). I would have to be offered a ridiculous amount of money to part with it. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 15 December 2015 at 8:32am
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DelTon ARs are sub $550 now: http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/del-ton-sport-ar-15-semi-automatic-556-nato-dtsport-848456000089-16-barrel?p=e551r&i=644584&ecid=Email-e551r&em_id=abernethy%40gmail.com&utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=e551r" rel="nofollow - link ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 15 December 2015 at 8:38am
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Lowers are still only $50 or less. Now is the time to buy if you are thinking about it. Get the lower and you will always own an AR. -------------
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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 15 December 2015 at 10:41am
A respectable gun shop employee told me Delton makes most AR parts for other major manufactures. Never did research that claim as I already own a EBR, but is that true? |
Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 15 December 2015 at 12:50pm
Partially true, most likely. Many companies, especially those that sell complete guns, source parts from one of just a few actual manufacturers. They may apply a rollmark or brand the stuff themselves or pay for varying levels of QC, but many of the parts come from the same few sources. |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 15 December 2015 at 12:56pm
Seen them advertised between $430-$450. Lifetime Warranty for original purchaser. I don't know. Kinda have my heart set on the AR 556... -------------
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Posted By: Panda_Man
Date Posted: 15 December 2015 at 4:39pm
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http://www.jgsales.com/yugo-m70b1-ak-style-rifle,-7.62x39,-black-synthetic-stock,-grenade-sight.-p-62682.html" rel="nofollow - Yugo M70B1 Still calling this the best deal next to the milled Hungarian AK63D. RPK style Receiver/Trunion are dope as hell and are on par with "Durability" of a milled. -------------
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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 20 December 2015 at 11:32pm
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So I finally got around to updating my address on my drivers license, and I now have a serious itch to buy a new toy.... I still want a Ruger Precision in 6.5 Creedmor. But they're still pretty hard to come by. Then I drooled over the SIG MCX, but realized that price tag was a bit more than I wanted to pay. And now I'm wanting a Ruger SR22... |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 21 December 2015 at 8:14pm
I would go with an O-PAP over the M70B1. The Century M70's use US receivers and barrels and lack an optic rail. The N-PAP lacks the RPK receiver and is close to the Iraqi rifles. The Yugo barrels are CHF and should last a bit better than the button-rifled US made barrels, which apparently shoot pretty well anyways. None of them are chrome-lined to my knowledge. Or do what I did and get a kit build, though you probably can't get an original barrel anymore (My kit was $70 with the original barrel after I paid extra for hand-picked for bore condition and trench art) I went through Meridian Ordnance and they've really backed up their work and fixed a few things for me and had excellent turn-around time to boot. Spivey is also good according to Reddit. My actual rifle.  The RPR is my current object of lust, $950 at the local gunshop, they can't keep the 6.5 Creedmore models in stock. I'll probably buy an AR lower just to have it, but boy do I want the RPR.
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 23 December 2015 at 12:57pm
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My next pick-up is going to be a Tikka T3 Lite in either of the 300 win mag flavors. I'll probably end up topping it with a Zeiss. I'm planning on this being my go-to game rifle when I get to Alaska. -------------
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 24 December 2015 at 11:02am
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I think I might be the only forummer left that doesn't own a firearm. Out in sunny southern California there is nothing to shoot at, although I am about an hour from San Bernardino. Apperently they have terrorists there. ------------- 
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 24 December 2015 at 11:40pm
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Well, I found the Ruger AR 556 for cheap at a Police Equipment/Supply Shop about 30 minutes drive from the house. Made a trip to the Gunshop where I made a $100 deposit for the same weapon. I asked for the deposit back and when he asked why, I didn't want to tell him I found it cheaper so as not to offend. I blamed it on Christmas and that the money would be better suited for my kids and the rifle would have to wait. Being the local gunsmith, I may need his services at a later date. He still copped a bit of a 'tude with me and said he won't have a problem selling it when it comes in. I hate when people do that. My wife does that. I can tolerate it from my wife because its a female thing. But from somebody I don't know? He started on the quick path to flipping my switch. Bit my tongue, took my deposit and left. Instead of $641 + tax with him, I paid $585 + tax at the other place. Everywhere else I've looked, they're $749 and up. I think I got a decent deal. She is a beautiful rifle. Came with a 30rd Magpul 2nd gen magazine. I received (2) 3rd gen Magpul magazines in the mail a couple of days ago. Last week, my order of 500rds of WPA .223 also came in. So, I'm good to go. Just have to find a plinking buddy to hit the range with. http://s88.photobucket.com/user/Daishi_01/media/IMG_20151224_140542883_zpsstvx2xgq.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 28 December 2015 at 4:36pm
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Looks sweet! Bet it shoots good too! I haven't shot my 9 yet... Been so busy and it has been raining all weekend. ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 28 December 2015 at 10:53pm
I'm stifling the urge to put as much stuff on it as I can like I did my A-5 and Harley. So far, I have restrained myself to a MOE SL Mag538 Handgrip and MOE SL Mag347 Collapsible Stock. I will carefully consider optics for another time. Any suggestions from you guys will be seriously entertained. -------------
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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 16 January 2016 at 6:28pm
 Walked in the store to pick up a SR22.... Walked out with something a little more expensive. But holy moly is it sexy |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 16 January 2016 at 10:29pm
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I figure you guys would like Demolition Ranch on youtube. He shoots a lot of stuff in entertaining ways for even non shooters and he is a nice guy that is also a vet doing great charity work around the world on his other youtube channel, http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSCm3S2XZHLBz8kH0N5Heg" rel="nofollow - Vet Ranch . |
Posted By: deadeye007
Date Posted: 16 January 2016 at 11:38pm
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Did he mill the gills on an AR-15? ------------- Face it guys, common sense is a form of wealth and we're surrounded by poverty.-Strato |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 17 January 2016 at 12:47pm
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LOL!!! That dude is a psycho!!!!! Man, if I wasn't slack-jawed, I was laughing.... -------------
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 17 January 2016 at 12:53pm
Sweet! Make and model? -------------
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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 17 January 2016 at 4:27pm
Sig MCX |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 17 January 2016 at 6:56pm
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Wait. Where's the buffer tube? -------------
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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 17 January 2016 at 7:14pm
There is none   |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 17 January 2016 at 9:33pm
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WANT! ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 19 January 2016 at 11:02am
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HAWT -------------
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 31 January 2016 at 10:51pm
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Replaced the factory handguard and stock with Magpul Slimline Handguard and Carbine stock. Going to wait after I shoot it before I consider swapping out the pistol grip. 
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Posted By: impulse418
Date Posted: 01 February 2016 at 8:22am
| The girlfriend and I took her Ruger AR556 out this Saturday. Shot very well, zero malfunctions. Can't comment on accuracy due to the miserable 30 MPH winds. But I can report her ear to ear smile. |