Consumer Products Safty Commission Warn
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Topic: Consumer Products Safty Commission Warn
Posted By: Rock Slide
Subject: Consumer Products Safty Commission Warn
Date Posted: 24 March 2004 at 2:21pm
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Gas Canister Problems Lead To Paintball Gun Warning
POSTED: 9:51 a.m. EST March 24, 2004
The U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission says that people need to be aware of a problem that can cause the carbon dioxide canisters that power paintball guns to become deadly projectiles.
The agency says two deaths were caused by carbon dioxide canisters flying off paintball guns.
Users should know that the brass- or nickel-plated valve that connects to the canister must not be unscrewed from the canister. This valve must stay secured and rotate with the CO2 canister when removing it from the gun.
In both of the deaths, the brass valve unscrewed from the canister, letting it fly free.
"We believe it is urgent to provide this new safety message about the valve detaching from the canister while unscrewing it from the paintball gun," said CPSC chairman Hal Stratton.
The group offered safety tips for paintball gun users:
- Make sure the brass or nickel-plated canister valve is securely attached to the canister, rotates with the canister and does not unscrew from the canister.
- The canister assembly should unscrew from the paintball gun in about three or four full turns; if you finish the fourth full turn and the canister is not unscrewed, stop. Take it to a professional.
- Some people use paint or nail polish to mark the brass valve and the CO2 canister so they can see that the valve and the canister rotate together while being removed from the gun.
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Some of this is common sense. The valves NEED to be Lock Tite'ed in the tank. I like the nail polish idea...
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Replies:
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 24 March 2004 at 2:49pm
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nail polish idea is good, I'd better check mine....
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Posted By: spyderjunke
Date Posted: 24 March 2004 at 2:56pm
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somone said you got thorw them away after 15 years if so thats is a waste of money but if is to safe i'll spend the money
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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 24 March 2004 at 3:09pm
If theyre going to issue this big warning, why not warn about what
CAUSES that problem, idiots working on their tank and not using loctite
on the valve threads...
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Posted By: Chicken Wang
Date Posted: 24 March 2004 at 4:55pm
Enos Shenk wrote:
If theyre going to issue this big warning, why not warn about what
CAUSES that problem, idiots working on their tank and not using loctite
on the valve threads...
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Yeah. The other day I was reading an article in the paper and it
mentioned how a kids tank flew off the gun, and hit someone in the
head, killing her. But it said it flew off while he was
disasembling the gun. Who would take their gun apart with the air
on Some people are idiots.
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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 24 March 2004 at 6:01pm
Quite frankly I think part of the problem is the fact that many people do not understand the sport we play...and more so they do not understand the equipment that we use. The media writes their reports, but they do not HELP the public, they just hurt the image of paintball.
If the media in their reports included WHY something like this might happen, the media would be helping the sport, and in turn helping society.
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Posted By: =ez8=
Date Posted: 24 March 2004 at 9:05pm
unfortunately that's just the way it goes... a few idiots screw up and suddenly u'r faced with an inseparable blemish (sports, video gaming, work, EVERYTHING)
if society had any common sense to begin w/, they'd realize two very important facts:
1) the media primarily reports bad news, hence the saying- "no news, is good news"
2) in the hands of an idiot, ANYTHING can be dangerous (pencils, hammers, staplers, pocket knifes, ANYTHING)
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Posted By: PaintballWizard
Date Posted: 24 March 2004 at 9:22pm
I hate people who play this and dont know what there doing and actually can hurt someone!
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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 24 March 2004 at 10:16pm
In addition to that warning for paintball players, I think we also need to inform our friends and families, anybody that is around or has access to our equipment. I don't think it's a big problem, family members messing with equipment, but I would take no chances. Let them know to take care around the tanks.
Don't be alarmist about it, but let them know to exercise caution. Cover your bases whether or not your tanks have been altered.
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Posted By: Village Idiot!
Date Posted: 25 March 2004 at 2:13am
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What do you expect to happen when you give idiots high pressure gas canisters?
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Posted By: ownage
Date Posted: 25 March 2004 at 5:44pm
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Chicken Wang wrote:
Enos Shenk wrote:
If theyre going to issue this big warning, why not warn about what CAUSES that problem, idiots working on their tank and not using loctite on the valve threads... |
Yeah. The other day I was reading an article in the paper and it mentioned how a kids tank flew off the gun, and hit someone in the head, killing her. But it said it flew off while he was disasembling the gun. Who would take their gun apart with the air on Some people are idiots.
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i heard about that too supposedly it was some kid at his birthday party...that girl that got hit in the head was his mother, he killed his mom on his birthday
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Posted By: tippy a-5 guy
Date Posted: 25 March 2004 at 6:28pm
can you imagine what would happen if it was an HPA tank? you think the co2 tank could make a mess try 63ci/4500psi flying off.....that would suck ace
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Posted By: 636andy636
Date Posted: 25 March 2004 at 7:39pm
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how stupid to people have to be once youve tured the tank more that 3 times around you got a prob. what is evryone smoking
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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 25 March 2004 at 8:51pm
I would say it is ignorance, not stupidity.
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Posted By: beltismad,yo
Date Posted: 26 March 2004 at 2:12am
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tippy a-5 guy wrote:
can you imagine what would happen if it was an HPA tank? you think the co2 tank could make a mess try 73ci/4500psi flying off.....that would suck ace |
What about like a... lets say a.. 114/5000?
(I don't know if they make 5000 psi tanks anymore, but they used to)
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Posted By: Humvee Guy
Date Posted: 26 March 2004 at 10:40am
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I am glad this was posted to let people like that don't know of things like this. Of the unscrewig number i will definately put fingernail polish on mine.
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Posted By: firefighter3431
Date Posted: 26 March 2004 at 4:46pm
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spyderjunke wrote:
somone said you got thorw them away after 15 years if so thats is a waste of money but if is to safe i'll spend the money |
dude you could check with a co2 dealer ( welding supply ) and see if they can hydro test them ..... if they do you might get to use them from now on.... i know that steel air bottle ( holds 2216 psi. ) in the fire service can be used as long as it passes hydrostatic testing ( for the firefighting services) also if you are not near a welding supply store you might want to check with you local fire dept. they might give you a company name and phone number , so you can check with that company if they would test you bottles
as of 05/13/2004 heres a new bit of info for people near MOUNT AIRY ,NC a company call action fire & saftey inc. will hydro your CO2 tanks also the fee is $12 thats what the service man told me today
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Posted By: Solid Knight
Date Posted: 28 March 2004 at 12:13pm
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Threads exposed between the bottle and the valve should be a big indicator that you are unscrewing the wrong thing. Though the two marks to keep aligned is a good idea. Although you'll probably get some moron who puts both marks on the tank and sees nothing wrong when he unscrews the valve. Eh, anyway, I usually drain my tank before detatching it anyway. I don't trust 3000psi hanging around in my room and filling it back up is so cheap it might as well be free (my supervisor has his own scuba tank and yes we took the time to get trained by a professional airsmith who also paintballs frequently).
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Posted By: beltismad,yo
Date Posted: 28 March 2004 at 7:23pm
Village Idiot! wrote:
What do you expect to happen when you give idiots high pressure gas canisters? |
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Posted By: tippyfreak777
Date Posted: 29 March 2004 at 4:32pm
yea but people die all the time from different things why does all of a sudden a tank flies off and kills 2 ppl its sad but nothing to flip out about
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Posted By: S\/\/4T-L()G4N
Date Posted: 31 March 2004 at 2:36pm
^^^The part that is worry-some is the fact that we have never heard it before, but now it has happened twice.
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Posted By: Surfhare75
Date Posted: 02 April 2004 at 4:24pm
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SO What About Nitro Tanks??
Any safey warnings fo them??
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Posted By: jsb285
Date Posted: 06 April 2004 at 10:01pm
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carbon dioxide canisters
????
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Posted By: Centaur
Date Posted: 08 April 2004 at 5:22pm
jsb285 wrote:
carbon dioxide canisters
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co2 = carbon dioxide
Anyways, if anything, this should make people be aware of the POTENTIAL risk (although low and avoidable).
Like someone already said (sorry-forgot name), it's nothing to panic over.
IMO, I think people are too complacent with these high pressured tanks and don't show them enough respect.
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Posted By: Centaur
Date Posted: 08 April 2004 at 5:23pm
firefighter3431 wrote:
spyderjunke wrote:
somone said you got thorw them away after 15 years if so thats is a waste of money but if is to safe i'll spend the money |
dude you could check with a co2 dealer ( welding supply ) and see if they can hydro test them ..... if they do you might get to use them from now on.... i know that steel air bottle ( holds 2216 psi. ) in the fire service can be used as long as it passes hydrostatic testing ( and it has to be done ever five years at a cost of around $20.00 a bottle)....
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Hmmm...I recall reading somewhere that HPA and co2 paintball tanks have a 15 year life span regardless of whether or not it's been hydro-tested.
Anybody read this too?
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Posted By: Picasso
Date Posted: 09 April 2004 at 7:26pm
The C02 tanks in question, referred to, both had anti-siphon tubes installed.
It is presumed that the anti-siphon tubes were installed by the users, or someone local (ie; not a shop).
Evidently, they didn't make sure the valve was secured back onto the tank properly.
The re-asssembled tanks were then screwed into the guns (probably very tightly) and as they unscrewed the tanks, the valve unscrewed from the tank instead of the valve unscrewing from the ASA.
Besides neglecting to use loctite, it doesn't appear they used proper torque when re-installing the valve.
With all of this said, be careful. spread the word. It may not be your tank that flies through the air, but you may standing in the path of one at your local field.
If you don't know what you are doing, have a ProShop or certified airsmith handle these installations, ones such as anti-siphon tubes.
These accidents are a reflection on Paintball, on all of us. We don't want insurance rates going up and the media reporting about how dangerous P-Ball is, and how local fields should be closed.
So, be safe, and spread the word to others to be safe.
This is very serious stuff.
Thanks to Rockslide for posting it for all to see.
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Posted By: firefighter3431
Date Posted: 10 April 2004 at 12:14pm
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heres what i was talking about on http://www.webdogradio.us/video/#Tip%20Clip%20of%20the - webdogradio
tip of the week it tell the when to teast each and i know that the carbon fiber air tanks we use in the fire servies you do have to destory them after 15 years ... but right now they are trying to change that to if they pass hydro that we can use them as long as they keep passing hydro ... but as far as a paintball tank i dont really know the life span of them but trying to find out
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 10 April 2004 at 12:31pm
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Enos Shenk wrote:
If theyre going to issue this big warning, why not warn about what CAUSES that problem, idiots working on their tank and not using loctite on the valve threads... |
ditto
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Posted By: Arbites
Date Posted: 13 April 2004 at 11:30pm
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As a volunteer fire fighter, I also work with compressed air on a fairly regular basis. My understanding of the law is that all tanks containing compressed gasses over 2" in diameter must be regularly hydo-tested in order to be filled for a fee (no fee = no required testing, but the lawsuits would not be pretty if your old tank hurt someone). Steel (and aluminum I believe) must be tested every 5 years and to the best of my understanding may be used so long as they continue to pass hydro. Carbon-fiber tanks must be tested every 3 years, up to a maximum of 15 years. I may be a little off on some of this info (and I'm sure I'll be corrected), but that's the truth as I know it.
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Posted By: Picasso
Date Posted: 14 April 2004 at 9:59pm
Arbites got it right...
Steel or Aluminum Tanks:
-Under 2 inch diameter, no hydro required.
-5 year hydro testing for any that are greater than 2inhces diameter.
-No lifetime, as long as they pass hydro. There are scuba tanks out there from the 1970's still in use, legally, due to current hydro testing and inspections.
Carbon Fiber wrapped tanks (HPA):
-15 year lifespan from First Hydro/Manuf Date.
After 15 years, they get a hole drilled in them. Gone.
-All Carbon Fiber was 3 year Hydro.
However, now, the DOT has allowed some to be 5 year hydro. You have to look at the DOT number (such as DOT 10915) to see if it qualifies.
Some tanks produced after a certain Date, that meet DOT, are now 5 year hydro, if they are before that date, they still get a 3 year Hydro, the first time.
So, with HPA tanks, its a little confusing, check with the manufacturer.
Using one of my tanks as an Example:
It is a Luxfer Tank (brand).
It is "DOT 10915" which has been granted a 5 year Hydro exemption. BUT, this exemption has a Beginning DATE requirement. My tank was manufactured/first hydroed MAY 2001. This means it is too OLD to qualify for the 5 year Hydro, it must be tested Next month (May 2004). Once it is tested, then it falls into the 5 year testing requirement sey forth by the DOT exemption.
Keep this in mind, any field or any shop can DENY filling ANY tank, regardless of Hydro date. If they think it's unsafe, they can say NO.
A lot of 20 oz. Co2 tanks hit the market about 5 years ago, when they became popular, now they are hitting their first hydro requirement date. I suspct that Feilds and Shops are going to be checking dates and condition of tanks a lot closer.
To find the date on your Co2 tank, it is near the Neck, and is stamped into the tank. You'll see 1800 which means max working psi rating (Your burst disc will be an 1800 psi disc so that the tank never exceeds that rating).
You will also see a set of numbers like 08 02. This means the tank was manufacture/hydroed in August (08) of 2002 (02).
It will be up for a hydro test in 08 07, which is 5 years, because it is steel or aluminum.
Also remember, if your tank is exposed to high heat for more than the allotted time it should be trashed, also if it has been dented, or otherwise mangled.
Keeping our tanks in decent shape is the owners responsibility.
I have seen tanks at fields, that look so bad I can't believe the field will even fill them.
The steel tanks, however are pretty thick and durable, but this doesn't mean we should NOT respect the amount of power they contain.
I agree with Centaur, who stated that people get complacent about Co2 and HPA tanks. I have been saying that for many years.
You are carrying and filling a potential bomb. Handle it with the care and respect it deserves.
Don't put them in a hot car or trunk.
Don't throw them.
Don't sit them out in the hot sun.
Don't overfill them.
Protect the Valve, don't drop it on the valve.
....simply don't do anything to cause the tank to over-pressurize or get damaged in anyway.
Seems like common sense stuff, but its the stuff we need to remind ourselves and everybody else.
You can be the safest player out there, but, if these accidents keep happeneing, prices will go up, and then eventually Fields will close because they can't get insrance to do fills.
Protect your sport.
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Posted By: Layman
Date Posted: 17 April 2004 at 8:18pm
After reading the posts, did anyone read the follow-up report on the tanks going bad? Glenn Palmer of Palmers-Pursuit Shop inspected the tank that most recently killed a woman. Here is the thread with Glenn's report: http://www.paintmagazine.com/cgi-bin/cutecast/cutecast.pl?forum=8&thread=11406 - Click the Link Originally the loc-tite clogged the safety vents.
I have also had a 20oz unscrew under pressure. My saftey holes were luckily not clogged. No anti-siphon, or any mod had been done. Be safe guys. It isn't always user negligence in the sense of an idiot making a mistake. How many times have you unscrewed a tank while talking to someone and not watched the threads?
edit- just to be clear, pay attention to what GP@PPS "Master Airsmith" writes
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Posted By: Powder_pirate
Date Posted: 19 April 2004 at 9:45pm
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Forget potato cannons, tennis ball cannons, even model rocketry. Here comes the new and exciting sport of Co2 tank launching. Simply lower full Co2 tank into a mortar with an open breach. Then using a wrench undo the copper thingy and there you go. Liftoff via Co2 propulsion.
...Ok I want everyone to know that post is a joke, but then again it would be fun to try 
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Posted By: freaksoftware
Date Posted: 19 April 2004 at 11:12pm
Powder_pirate wrote:
Forget potato cannons, tennis ball cannons,
even model rocketry. Here comes the new and exciting sport of Co2 tank
launching. Simply lower full Co2 tank into a mortar with an open
breach. Then using a wrench undo the copper thingy and there you go.
Liftoff via Co2 propulsion.
...Ok I want everyone to know that post is a joke, but then again it
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I'm dying.... i know people that would try it lol. We blew up a WD40
can with a piccalo pete once. But anyway.....
So just grab some Loc-Tite Threadlockers and squeeze it on the the
threads? (After the tank is emptied obviously.)
http://www.loctiteproducts.com/products/detail.asp?
catid=10&subid=48&plid=153
(The stupid forums won't let me post this as an actual link. It keeps
inserting line breaks in the middle. Grrrr)
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Posted By: SemperPB
Date Posted: 19 April 2004 at 11:38pm
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tippy a-5 guy wrote:
can you imagine what would happen if it was an HPA tank? you think the co2 tank could make a mess try 73ci/4500psi flying off.....that would suck ace |
This is what would happen.
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=222498&highlight=new+tv+hole+in+wall - http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadi d=222498&highlight=new+tv+hole+in+wall
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Posted By: Layman
Date Posted: 22 April 2004 at 10:15am
Rock Slide wrote:
The valves NEED to be Lock Tite'ed in the tank. I like the nail polish idea... |
NO! Tom Kaye of Air Gun Designs, the guy who is responsible for HPA systems being in the sport, is quoted as saying that the DOT says DO NOT USE LocTite. Look for the http://www.tippmann.com/players/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=93548&KW=Layman - All new players please read this, really thread for the whole picture. If you use a chemical bond on the threads you run a high risk of blocking the safety holes that are cross drilled into the lower half of most valves.
LocTite is a no-no!d
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Posted By: Whazuuup!
Date Posted: 26 April 2004 at 8:12pm
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So instead of using loc-tite, you are just supposed to crank the valve back on the tank with some special torque wrench??
1. That doesn't sound safe.
2. What kind of wrench?
3. To what amount of torque are you supposed to crank it on there?
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Posted By: Justice
Date Posted: 28 April 2004 at 9:14pm
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spyderjunke wrote:
somone said you got thorw them away after 15 years if so thats is a waste of money but if is to safe i'll spend the money |
psssst. read your co2 can again. Its more like 5 years max.
Allot of little ones play this with little envolvement from their parents. Me being a new daddy, if my kid wanted to get into any sport that involves high pressure tanks and flying projectiles traveling at 200+fps then I would make sure they get the proper safety training.
Dont blame the ignorance of children, they dont know better. Blame the parents.
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Posted By: Bobeo
Date Posted: 29 April 2004 at 8:54pm
omg......... I didnt know what would happen but i was unsrewing a Brass Eagle tank that i got free from Galyan's and the brass part came off. I was like WTF? I thought it miight shoot out so i put it away. I didnt know it was that dangerous. Pretty scary stuff. Ill still play paintball but ill check my tanks more often. And that nail polish idea is good.
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Posted By: Picasso
Date Posted: 04 May 2004 at 8:23pm
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OK OK....
Per Layman's post, Glen Palmer did NOT write that LOC TITE clogged the safety vent hole.
here is Palmer's text, excerpted, word for word.
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"There were no signs that the valve had been tightened sufficiently into the tank and there was no sign of chemical bonding materials having been used at the last installation of the valve. However, the Safety vent hole in valve neck was plugged with an unknown substance."
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UNKNOWN SUBSTANCE. Palmer knows what LOC TITE is, he would have said so, if that's what was found...who knows what it was??
JB Weld, perhaps?? its just a guess.
The Term for what is used on the Threads is a "Chemical Bonding Agent".
I've worked on both Co2 tanks and HPA tanks. One's that had never been tampered with, never had anyone else unscrew them.
Each and every one of them I have removed have had a "Chemical Bonding Agent" on them.
The manufacturers put it there. Why? ask them. What do they use? ask them.
Now, here is another fact. There is no such thing as a "Certified Airsmith". There is no test, there is no licsence.
The only "certification" that a person can get, is from gun makers who will give classes on how to repair their guns. Fro example: You can go see Bob Long and be "certified" by him to work on his Intimidators. You can do the same with many other gun brands.
There is no "Certification" for anyone to work on generic high pressure systems in paintball. I held a certification with the CGA (Compressed Gas Assoc.) for handling Pressure vessels. There were classes and a test and a certificate that I had successfully completed the course. What did that do for me??
It provided documentation that I was trained in the safe handling and transportation of Compressed Gas Cylinders. That's it. It wasn't a class on how to repair them, hwo to fix them, etc. Just how to handle them based on DOT specs.
So, don't think that there is any one person, who is the "paintball god" who has all the answers. the only people that should speak for these pressure vessels and the valves that are installed on them are the manufacturers themselves.
Tom Kaye supposedly wrote that "LOCK TIGHT" should not be used, the valve should be torqued with a "special" strap wrench.
First I think Mr. Kaye knows that Loc Tite (brand) is spelled this way, not the other.
I'm not going to argue with Mr. Kaye, but I have a question for the manufacturers....if Loc Tite is not used on tank valve threads as he suppoedly suggests, then, what is the stuff i see on all of the valves I remove from tanks???
It is what I referred to before as a "Chemical Bonding Agent". They put somthing on them , it hardens, and makes them more difficult to remove.
I always use a vice/clamp and tools, like a "special strap wrench" to remove valves (and reinstall them).
Sometimes I even have to apply a little heat to them in order to get them to turn.
I can't, for the life of me, imagine that a factory installed valve would come out of a factory bottle by hand-force alone! The bottles in question were tampered with by someone who didn't have a clue what they were doing.
The message hear is: Don't mess with Safety!
Don't try to fix, repair or modify a tank, valve, or anything carrying high pressure unless you are trained and/or know what you are doing!
Also be sure that any used tank, Co2 or HPA, that you buy or use, hasn't been tampered with, and has a current hydro test date.
Safety Safety Safety!!!
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Posted By: ChadwickVM
Date Posted: 24 May 2004 at 2:27pm
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How close together were these two deaths? They seem to have been pretty close together a bit strange. Just goes to show you that as PB has become more popular people have become less concerned w/ saftey. Moving to mainstream could have a bumpy path infront of it.
Now I'm almost worried to even have my co2 taken to an airsmith to have an anti-siphon tube put in. It sounds to me like the kid was able to unscrew the valve from the tank much easier than it should have been. To me that sounds like a factory problem. If he recieved it on his birth day and it was lock-tight'ed shut nothing short of a wrench should have been able to remove it from the bottle.
Just my 2 cents
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Posted By: paintball_1199
Date Posted: 25 May 2004 at 12:38pm
hey i dont know how many people will make it down this far, but i just wanted to add.... that it is not mandatory for the companys making the c02 tanks to use loc tite. but rather to torque them to a designated torque. and i do know that there are some companys still today that do just that, and dont use loc tite. so for all of you that think putting that little line on your tank isnt for you because your tank is new and hasnt been opened....... THINK AGAIN. you can never be to safe!!! so if anyone is not sure if there tanks were first put together with loc tite, check with the company that made it. i only use pure energy tanks, and i have checked.... they do use loc tite on All of there (new) tanks.
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Posted By: z020203
Date Posted: 08 June 2004 at 12:12am
if he had a sniper this wouldnt have happened
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Posted By: creeping death
Date Posted: 14 June 2004 at 9:47pm
i was wondering, what about kevlar tanks? i know there stupidly expencive, but kevlar is really strong stuff. do you have to hydro test them, or throw them away after a few years? it would suck to spend that much and have to throw it away in 5 years.
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Posted By: Shenanigan
Date Posted: 16 June 2004 at 4:28pm
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belive it or not this has happened to me once but the tank was empty (thank god) so if you dont think it can happen to you, it can.
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Posted By: One Eye Dead
Date Posted: 29 June 2004 at 6:28am
My team (Team Ignorance) Has only shot off one burst disk and broken one CO2 tank one was like uber close to empty and I unscrewed it from the asa and the bronze thing stayed on and then the other one we just left outside with a camera watching it the burst disk shot off only thoughit was funny and thus is why team Ignoronce will die a horrific and young (but funny) death because we like to blow stuff up
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Posted By: phantomlord13
Date Posted: 05 July 2004 at 11:23pm
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explosions ARE cool... for the most part, this is stuff i learned in high school chemistry, its not that complicateed, just be careful, and read the safety guide that im sure insurance demands they send out with the marker and bottle...
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Posted By: TheRaginCajun
Date Posted: 08 July 2004 at 2:52pm
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u should always check everything out befor u play to make sure its safe
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Posted By: Mike Barch
Date Posted: 20 July 2004 at 11:30pm
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thats right man^
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Posted By: Belt #2
Date Posted: 23 July 2004 at 1:20am
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TheRaginCajun wrote:
u should always check everything out befor u play to make sure its safe |
God has spoken.
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Posted By: hershhersh
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 5:27pm
i heard it was due to the fact it was a blade and the thing broke and sent the 12 gram flying. i only have heard this though
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Posted By: xalnei
Date Posted: 30 July 2004 at 11:18pm
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Yea they still do make 5000 psi tanks, they are expensive as hell though. i can imagine what would happen if my 4500 psi 91 cu inch dye tank went flying off, that might be an act of terrorism er somethin.
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Posted By: The Ho
Date Posted: 09 August 2004 at 11:50pm
i gotta tell my friends dad about this! his tank has been doing that mor about a month. WOW! that is scary.
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Posted By: @5 M@$T@
Date Posted: 30 August 2004 at 12:11am
PHANTOMLORD STOLE MY THINGY<<< AND IDIOTS W/ ANYTHING THAT CAN KILL SOME1=NOT GOOD.
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Posted By: Firemansam
Date Posted: 10 September 2004 at 3:35am
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hi first time on the forum, just let you know that over in the UK all our CO2 bottles are tested every 5 years by law and all valves have to have the nail polish marks this is also the case for our comp air bottles and ALL valve threads are locktited
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Posted By: jared_stein123
Date Posted: 13 September 2004 at 5:06pm
Posted By: m4rksmand00d01
Date Posted: 14 September 2004 at 6:35pm

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