Homemade cyclone feed!!
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Topic: Homemade cyclone feed!!
Posted By: gbomb
Subject: Homemade cyclone feed!!
Date Posted: 03 May 2004 at 3:29pm
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Do you think that tippmann would get mad if I made a cyclone feed for my 98c, it would be homemade, easy just a low power electric engine and I bet you I could buy the turbine. Or I just might be able to modife a A-5 one to fit the 98c. ------------- 98c: J&J Ceramic Barrel 14" Dye Sticky Grip 32 Degrees Flame Drop Forward One Strip Hex nut Soon To Come: Double Trigger |
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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 03 May 2004 at 3:42pm
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More power to ya if you can make it happen.
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Posted By: pbmatty
Date Posted: 03 May 2004 at 4:00pm
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werd yo i would sell those call it the 95 |
Posted By: Revalation
Date Posted: 03 May 2004 at 4:04pm
| ahah well it owuld be a dosie |
Posted By: Jim Paint
Date Posted: 03 May 2004 at 4:06pm
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no but if you can do that, then good job ------------- 
saepe fidelis |
Posted By: Arbites
Date Posted: 03 May 2004 at 9:04pm
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I'm not sure it would be a violation if you even modified a real cyclone to work on a M-98. They may try to go after you if it was on a non-Tippmann, but I doubt they would care on one of their own. But at the same time why turn a M98 into an A-5? If you want an A-5, sell your M-98 and buy one since it will likely be less headache & less money. ------------- A-5: 12" Ceramic, Egrip/WAS/Duel, HPA, MP5 sliding stock SMG-68: 12" Ceramic 68-Specials(8): 12"&14" Ceramic, 12V Revy *** 1 Tip-n-Strip, 1 Blue, 1 FA w/Qloader SL-68: 14" Ceramic SMG-60 Ext. Line |
Posted By: Halex
Date Posted: 04 May 2004 at 10:28am
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well i dont think they would care if u made one for yourself, but if you made millions and sold them they get mad and sue you with theer patent some how. ------------- "I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts." |
Posted By: pntbl pro
Date Posted: 04 May 2004 at 12:50pm
that would be cool
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 04 May 2004 at 3:13pm
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I wouldnt use a motor though, I would just reroute the gas like on the A-5. Just my two cents. |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 04 May 2004 at 5:00pm
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Uhm you dont infringe a patent by just building one for yourself. You just cant profit off it. Have at it. ------------- 
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 04 May 2004 at 6:33pm
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Tippmann would be mad............very mad.......... ------------- 
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Posted By: jigglydude
Date Posted: 04 May 2004 at 7:25pm
well u could just buy a egg or revvy instead of using a electic motor,
finding a cyclone would be harder than making it fit (duct tape holds
the universe together )
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Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 04 May 2004 at 10:22pm
| Just send me $100 and Dennis Jr. himself will personally give you permission. |
Posted By: Pyro-TFA
Date Posted: 05 May 2004 at 8:24am
| actually i think they only have a patent on the cyclone system for the A-5 (how it works on blow-back air), if you hand craft one that works on a different system instead of blow-back air i dont think they can do anything about it. |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 05 May 2004 at 4:59pm
| If someone comes up wit a better feeder system(similiar to the A5's) fer the 98c's, jus make sure it doesnt suck up too much gas like the A5's. |
Posted By: Pyro-TFA
Date Posted: 05 May 2004 at 5:06pm
| the A-5 cyclone doesnt run on gas from the tank, it runs on the air that the bolt produces when it moves back into the "cocked" position. its called blowback air. |
Posted By: Pro Carbine00
Date Posted: 05 May 2004 at 6:14pm
| You can do what you want. They only patenized it so other companies wouldnt do it. You could make your own, your not selling them. Even if you did sell it to some one I wouldnt think you got in trouble. |
Posted By: oompaloompa45
Date Posted: 10 May 2004 at 11:41am
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Have fun.
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Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 24 June 2004 at 11:56pm
| try it. if you want tell us how it turned out. |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 25 June 2004 at 1:19am
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Sounds like a good idea to me and Tippmann wouldnt really get mad, now the only way Tippmann would trip if you stole the idea of the Cyclone feeder, they could careless bout the hopper and remember someone else already created an A5 hopper that holds more than the original. So go fer it and when you finally have one done....show us a pic and explain how you did it. ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition! 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 25 June 2004 at 1:33am
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There is a pic somewhere of Dennis with a cyclone on a 98. I remember first hearing about the cyclone system, and I swear I heard it was for the 98, but they put it on the A5.
Go for it. |
Posted By: ms2013
Date Posted: 25 June 2004 at 11:31am
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have fun chopping paint. the cyclone works only because it rotates only when fired. exactly when fired. if you can do that, and get it spin once, for whatever the rotation is, good job.
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Posted By: SPtippmann98
Date Posted: 25 June 2004 at 12:11pm
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http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/loaders/tipp_force/index.shtml - http://www.warpig.com/paintball/technical/loaders/tipp_force /index.shtml there its is how they hooked up the gas is where the little nub is where you would hook up the hose line for the response trigger have fun they wont get mads unless u make money off it oh yeh u dont need to make a homemade one u can find a new cyclone in classifieds cause some people that bought a-5s early in production bought a better cyclone that keeps up better
on a personal note I BROKE 100 ------------- 
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Posted By: spyderjunke
Date Posted: 25 June 2004 at 1:04pm
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do it and post pics i got to see this ------------- http://img141.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img141&image=mvc001s6sn4wm.jpg"> 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 25 June 2004 at 1:18pm
See, I was right, pic of dennis, and prototype for the 98:
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Posted By: smorgasborad
Date Posted: 26 June 2004 at 11:39am
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ya i say if u can make it make it. I dont think Tippmann would really care. ------------- A-5 Dye Excel Barrel polished interiors Smart Parts Flame Drop Forward Pen Spring Mod trigger upgrade thats it for now |
Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 26 June 2004 at 12:04pm
Actually the cyclone spins when the bolt retracts. And it doesnt need to be exact. The sprockets rotate by spring power, not by air. The air pushes the ratchet in place, then when the gas is let off, the spring return rotates the sprockets. Wouldnt chop if you made it wrong at all. Does your a5 chop when you push the manual feed plunger when the bolt is closed? No, it just puts a bit of pressure on the ball, and finishes rotating when the bolt clears. And to the dude that said the cyclone patent only covers blowback power, try again. If you look up the patent number on the bottom of the cyclone, you get the patent for the factory f/a, which used spring power. -------------
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ms2013 wrote:Posted By: Super NEWB
Date Posted: 26 June 2004 at 6:43pm
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it wouldnt really be too hard if you had just the loader. you could
drill a tap into the valve and hook it up to the feeder hole thingy.
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Posted By: bigmike102
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 7:37am
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i would buy it...
have fun and post pics if successful. ------------- . |
Posted By: Homer J
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 9:45pm
On top of that Tippmann's Cyclone Feed isn't motorized. |
Posted By: cockchafer
Date Posted: 27 June 2004 at 9:54pm
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i think you should try it. would be really cool if made. ------------- a-5 polished internals Tippmann Werks Barrel CP flame drop foward gta double trigger pen spring mod |
Posted By: dtfastj
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 1:04am
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Posted By: triggerhappy1
Date Posted: 28 June 2004 at 8:28pm
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you could just get a halo or something and cut it up so it drops the balls directly into the chamber. ------------- 
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Posted By: >><<
Date Posted: 29 June 2004 at 12:30am
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Well a simple well atleast sorta simple buy the x or y board put that below everything and make that spin the paddles and have a normal hopper. ------------- 
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Posted By: A5 dude15
Date Posted: 29 June 2004 at 10:32am
| i dont see y tippmann would be mad at u....u might just inspire them to actually make a cyclone feed for the 98c....that would be great for a lot of people..... |
Posted By: NMLvaio
Date Posted: 29 June 2004 at 2:33pm
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Try it -------------  
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Posted By: Ashran
Date Posted: 29 June 2004 at 5:56pm
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Ya, I can see a cyclone with the bars off, in an angel over the feed actually working. ------------- 2k4 Viking SCM, MM JMJ roller trigger WAS 1.6 WAS eyes, WAS switch Dye Minidrop CP on/off |
Posted By: Sarge14
Date Posted: 29 June 2004 at 7:11pm
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I have a phrase i want you to remember, Retro-Fit. I am currently undertaking a project that involves adding an A-5 Cyclone to a procarbine w/ R/t. Its pretty interesting. ------------- Nothing is Stronger than the Heart of a Volunteer Proud to be a Soldier in the United States Army! Commo Leads the Way!! |
Posted By: evil_fingers
Date Posted: 29 June 2004 at 11:55pm
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Share the wealth man....I wanna see it when yer done. ------------- Do not steal....the government hates competition!
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Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 30 June 2004 at 1:16pm
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I plan to find a way to get a cyclone on my 98c whenever I have the time and money to do it. I'll probably just butcher a 98c elbow and add the important parts onto an A5 cyclone so it can attach just like the old elbow. Then I'll get an RT powertube so I can run the gas line out the side. I'll have to buy the right half of an A5 body for that little arm that comes off though. I have to cut that off and attach it to the cyclone. Without that little arm, the paint will just spin in the cyclone and will never get pushed into the gun. I'll be sure to post something here if I manage to make it happen. ------------- oreomann33: Everybody invades Poland Rofl_Mao: And everyone eats turkey Me: But only if they're hungary Mack: Yeah but hungary people go russian through their food and end up with greece on everyth |
Posted By: bowers182
Date Posted: 06 July 2004 at 10:43am
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post a pic if you can make it happen |
Posted By: MagnumForce
Date Posted: 08 July 2004 at 6:04pm
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by the time you got done modifying the 98 custom you would have spent the same amount of money as the a-5 if you sold you 98 ------------- 
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Posted By: nentuin
Date Posted: 28 July 2004 at 9:35am
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It costs more money to experiment than it does to end up with the same result if you know exactly what to do. ------------- Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics. Even in you win, you're still retarded. |
Posted By: Belt #2
Date Posted: 28 July 2004 at 8:46pm
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True, but you get more respect and brownie points with air smiths and serious paintballers if you come up with awesome modifications... Now, I want to see a Pro/Carbine with a an R/T, flatline, and a cyclone... (Talk about modifications...) I'd seriously respect anyone how managed to pull that one off... ------------- Most importantly - People suck. |
Posted By: swickers
Date Posted: 29 July 2004 at 1:56pm
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does it work well????
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Posted By: MetallicaESPa5
Date Posted: 30 July 2004 at 11:54am
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he hasn't one it yet, lol did u read the post? ------------- 
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Posted By: BigD
Date Posted: 30 July 2004 at 12:12pm
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You can make them without any problems from them, but don't sell any. I think that's a legal violation of their patent ------------- Tippmann 98 Custom J&J Ceramic 14 in. VL Revolution w/ X-board Rufus Dawg Double Trigger Drop forward Rocket Cock II Vert. Adapter DOP X-Core DYE Sticky Grips Dye Invision |
Posted By: The Ho
Date Posted: 30 July 2004 at 2:53pm
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yeah dont sell any. i want one bad. ------------- I LIKE BIKES! |