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    Posted: 13 December 2005 at 3:16am
   I'm personally sorta torn on this. It's one of those things where, I kind of believe that killers should be killed but I don't like it when our government kills it's citizens. If it came up on a ballot I would probably vote it down but I'm not really a hardliner.

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I kind of torn as well.  For one, many murderers who needed death got it, but how many people have died that didn't actually commit the crime? 

Watch the court shows, they're always arresting the wrong guy for rape or murder and he gets out after 6 years because they got the real guy, and the man that wasted 6 years of his life gets sent a thank you card.
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I'm for it, but in some cases I would prefer the sentence be life without parole instead, like in Stan Williams'(Tookie) case.
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Is it justice or revenge?
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Originally posted by Badsmitty Badsmitty wrote:

Is it justice or revenge?


Revenge, yo.
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do you guys understand how much it costs to keep someone in jail for life?

you need to pay for food and drink, staff and new buildings to combat population increases. i say if your going to keep them for life they better pay their way.
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merc brings up a good point.

The way I see it, and I'm not a particularly religious person myself, but it kinda makes sense, is that the most precious gift that we as humans have is life itself. To remove that gift from someone and be allowed to retain yours is not even remotely fair.

Punishment like life in prison or solitary is STILL granting that person their life, and yes, it is a serious drain on monetary resources.

I'm honestly for the use of the death penalty. As for a person's individual rights, as soon as you commit a serious crime, you have shown that you are not willing to abide by the laws of society, and therefore should no longer be protected by them.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whazuuup! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 December 2005 at 10:30am
Where did we discuss this before...? Might have been that religios thread ghostslinger started  (please don't bring it back).
I remember somebody saying that it costs a LOT more to give somebody the death penalty because of all the lawyers, legal stuff, and all that jazz.

But it's not about money really, I think badsmitty got it right. Justice vs. Revenge. Except in that rare case when people are "too dangerous to be kept alive", even in maximum security prisons 
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Originally posted by merc merc wrote:

do you guys understand how much it costs to keep someone in jail for life?

you need to pay for food and drink, staff and new buildings to combat population increases. i say if your going to keep them for life they better pay their way.


Actually today, it costs more  to execute somone by leathal injection, than it would to keep them in prison for life.  Ill find the statistics of it somewhere...

I as put em up to the fireing squad. A 50 cent bullet is alot less than than  leathal injection.
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Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

Originally posted by merc merc wrote:

do you guys understand how much it costs to keep someone in jail for life?

you need to pay for food and drink, staff and new buildings to combat population increases. i say if your going to keep them for life they better pay their way.


Actually today, it costs more  to execute somone by leathal injection, than it would to keep them in prison for life.  Ill find the statistics of it somewhere...

I as put em up to the fireing squad. A 50 cent bullet is alot less than than  leathal injection.

They got rid of the firing squad a long time ago because it was inhumane....as if carving someones face off isnt. but thats not the point.

Execution methods like firing squad and hanging are still on the books in some states, but they're not permitted to be used because they're inhumane. In some places, you used to be able to request your method of execution.

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Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

Originally posted by merc merc wrote:

do you guys understand how much it costs to keep someone in jail for life?

you need to pay for food and drink, staff and new buildings to combat population increases. i say if your going to keep them for life they better pay their way.


Actually today, it costs more  to execute somone by leathal injection, than it would to keep them in prison for life.  Ill find the statistics of it somewhere...

I as put em up to the fireing squad. A 50 cent bullet is alot less than than  leathal injection.

They got rid of the firing squad a long time ago because it was inhumane....as if carving someones face off isnt. but thats not the point.

Execution methods like firing squad and hanging are still on the books in some states, but they're not permitted to be used because they're inhumane. In some places, you used to be able to request your method of execution.



I have always thought the best method of execution, is to kill the murderer the way they killed thier victom, if they stabbed thier victom to death the murderer should be stabbed.
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If more than three credible witnesses said you did what you had done.  then i think that you should be put down.

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Didnt France just hang someone?

Im for it, If they kill then they should pay the ultimite price with there life too.

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I always thought that some sort of low caliber bullet to the back of the head would be much cheaper and humane than having this long drawn out thing. You could even make a little chair type thing and make it automatic. Corse, sense when did finances matter when killing people? I dunno though, like I said, I don't like it when the government can legally kill it's citizens. 

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Originally posted by Whazuuup! Whazuuup! wrote:

Where did we discuss this before...? Might have been that religios thread ghostslinger started  (please don't bring it back).
I remember somebody saying that it costs a LOT more to give somebody the death penalty because of all the lawyers, legal stuff, and all that jazz.

But it's not about money really, I think badsmitty got it right. Justice vs. Revenge. Except in that rare case when people are "too dangerous to be kept alive", even in maximum security prisons 

honest to God dont bring that up! but i say that if you're gonna be a lifer, you sure as hell better work in that time to even slightly pay back what taxpayers are paying to keep you alive in prison. but thats just me. why is it i posted that thread... 

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Originally posted by .Ryan .Ryan wrote:

I always thought that some sort of low caliber bullet to the back of the head would be much cheaper and humane than having this long drawn out thing. You could even make a little chair type thing and make it automatic. Corse, sense when did finances matter when killing people? I dunno though, like I said, I don't like it when the government can legally kill it's citizens. 

they cant necessarily kill someone legally in the sense that i think you have in mind but it does take awhile for the hammer to fall if you know what i mean so its not as bad (sometimes in that time innocent people can be proven innocent you know)

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well yea they can legally kill but hopefully u understand it



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