palmer reg. or x-chamber

yo wat is he diffefernce  and wat shoul i get im willin to spend 60 at the most   i play where it is usually col  and hot so whick will help me more on my A-5

wats a palmer reg. do

The palmer stabalizer is one of the best if not the best reg for co2. It also works very well with nitro with no modifications. Iv also read it acts a little bit like an x-chamber. If you have the money you should invest in one. You won't regret it.

Spend 20 more and get a Macdev gladiator.

My experience with the Palmer and my 98 w/ rt is that for the Palmer to be as effective as possible at removing liquid it chokes the gun to the point of decock.

Run your gun without a Palmer and just go for it.

Edited by Lightningbolt

if i were to buy a palmer (male) What all would i have to purchase to get it up and running like would i have to buy a different hose or different atteachment pieces besides the vertical adapter?

FyreFly wrote: Lightningbolt wrote: My experience with the Palmer and my 98 w/ rt is that for the Palmer to be as effective as possible at removing liquid it chokes the gun to the point of decock. Run your gun without a Palmer and just go for it. You don't have your regulator set up properly then. You need to back out the front velocity adjustment screw all the way till it doesn't block any air but doesn't fall out, and use the regulator to adjust your velocity.

I guess you disagree with both me and some of the Tippmann techs.

Lightningbolt wrote: FyreFly wrote: Lightningbolt wrote: My experience with the Palmer and my 98 w/ rt is that for the Palmer to be as effective as possible at removing liquid it chokes the gun to the point of decock. Run your gun without a Palmer and just go for it. You don't have your regulator set up properly then. You need to back out the front velocity adjustment screw all the way till it doesn't block any air but doesn't fall out, and use the regulator to adjust your velocity. I guess you disagree with both me and some of the Tippmann techs.

This is the first negative post I've ever heard about the Palmers Stabilizer.

Most players comments about this stabilizer are that it's so efficient and effective you wonder why you bought that expansion chamber in the first place. It also contains a "liquid-trap" to practicly eliminate liquid co2 from ever entering your marker!

If it was such a bad product then how come there are so many Tippmann users using them?

I've never even heard of a Tippmann Tech trashing Palmers!

Lightningbolt wrote: I guess you disagree with both me and some of the Tippmann techs.

In that case, YES, I do disagree with the Tippmann Techs, and it won't be
the first time either!!

Well, if you plan to switch only to HPA the palmer is not the best reg you can buy. It's the best reg for CO2, but not for Nitro. It is a decent reg for Nitro, but not the greatest thing the world has ever known. Plus, you don't really need a reg when switching to nitro unless you modify the gun (polished internals, stronger drive spring, LPK). My gun gets +/- 5 when just using the Nitro tank. The tank already has a regulator on it.