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goodsmitty
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Topic: No birth control for you, sinnerPosted: 29 March 2005 at 11:35am |
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"Reading this thread, I'm sad to say that the only difference between the average American and the average Taliban is economic status."
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Clark Kent
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 11:39am |
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Well, lawyers can decline clients, physicians can (usually) decline patients, teachers can decline students. Don't see why pharmacists shouldn't be allowed to decline customers. Their choice. |
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 11:42am |
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but the pharmacy doesnt want to lose money so they will make the
pharmacist give the girl the birth control. the pharmacist is just
there to give you the prescription, she should have no business telling
you what you cna and cannot have.
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Jesus Christ, why don't you come save my life. Open my eyes and blind me with your light and your lies. |
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Clark Kent
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 11:45am |
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Yes and no. At Walgreens, the pharmacist won't have much choice. At smaller shops, the pharmacist often owns the place. The market will take care of this one. |
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 11:46am |
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true my family owns 2
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 11:47am |
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thats like inviting in AIDS
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goodsmitty
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 11:47am |
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But I bet they will sell condoms to men. It's a control issue.
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Clark Kent
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 11:48am |
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Doesn't matter. The market will straighten it out. No action is needed.
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goodsmitty
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 11:53am |
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The same free market that is helping starving people all across the globe.
What is the harm in stopping an egg from being released every month with birth control? It is much more humane for the egg than letting it get flushed down the commode during menses every month. Edited by goodsmitty |
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 11:57am |
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Actually, the free market IS helping starving people across the globe - but different discussion. I have nothing against birth control. I have very much against interfering with the personal judgement of a professional, or interfering with the business judgement of a business, or interfering with the relationship between employer and employee. Any legislation on this subject - in either direction - could have significant unintended consequences. And, since (as best I can tell) it isn't needed anyway, there is no point to it. |
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goodsmitty
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 12:04pm |
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I can go either way on this. My state allows nurses to decline certain patients based on personal beliefs, as long as the patient is not abandoned.
In the case of administering birth control to stop a potential pregnancy (the morning after "pill"), which must be administered as soon as possible after intercourse, if the pharmacist at the all-night Walgreens refuses to fill the prescription, then that patient was just abandoned. It's a medical issue and the patient should be treated if patient care will suffer.
P.S. Read "confessions of an economic hit man." He would disagree that the free market is helping the third world, and is in fact causing much starvation, disease, and thirst. Edited by goodsmitty |
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Mack
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 12:06pm |
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I'm with Clark Kent on this one; the market should straighten it out. The only problem I see if I understand the background correctly is you're going to have these ultra-right religious busybody loser organizations defending the rights of the pharmacists to keep their jobs after they refuse to do them. The argument will be that the pharmicists stood up for their religious beliefs when they refused to issue the pills and firing them is tantamount to religious persecution. Edited Note: While I consider my personal politics to be right-wing, the one thing we don't need in the U.S. is our own personal version of the Taliban, which is what the far religious right is quickly becoming. Edited by Mack |
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 12:08pm |
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I say again, it is a patient care issue, and the patient comes first:
In the case of administering birth control to stop a potential pregnancy (the morning after "pill"), which must be administered as soon as possible after intercourse, if the pharmacist at the all-night Walgreens refuses to fill the prescription, then that patient was just abandoned. It's a medical issue and the patient should be treated if patient care will suffer. |
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 12:48pm |
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I wasn't disagreeing with you on that^^.
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 12:53pm |
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Couldn't you also say the pharmacists are persecuting the customers, because they are imposing their beliefs upon the customer? Not letting them have medicine because they think different than you...? Does that make sense...or am I missing something. Edited by Frozen Balls |
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 1:27pm |
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I do not have sufficient medical knowledge to argue the medical merits of the timing of this medicine - but it certainly could be. But how did you come by the prescription? I must admit I don't know much about the mechanics of morning-after pills, but it occurs to me that to get a prescription you must have spoken to a physician, which means you are probably operating more or less during business hours, which means you probably have some choices. I don't know the answer to that. But your point is well taken, regardless of the facts. It would clearly be unethical for a pharmacist to withold heart medicine (for instance) just because the pharmacist disapproves of treating heart conditions. To the extent that this truly becomes a "medical emergency" then we have a different - and more complicated - issue. I must admit I was more focused on regular-use birth-control pills rather than morning-after use. Worth some research and pondering. |
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 1:43pm |
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my girl gets her pills through the mail...
also i know alot of girls are on the pill not to stop from getting pregnent but to regulate it... a girl getting her pills late could make her very sick |
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 2:41pm |
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It does make sense, and it makes me worry about what this country could be coming to. |
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 2:44pm |
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Wait...what? |
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Posted: 29 March 2005 at 3:41pm |
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No its not.
I know a couple girls who have severe medical Dysmeneria, wich mean they have cycles that jump all over the place and are very very painful. I will say that, the pharmacist has the right to refuse to fill a perscription, but he has NO RIGHT to hold the medicine hostage and refuse to transfer it. There he has abandoned the patient, the doctor gave her a prescription and some holy roller bastard wants to throw a wrench in the process. Im conservitive, but this i strongly disagree with. |
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