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    Posted: 17 September 2005 at 12:43pm

I just had a question about the tanks PSI.

The places I go to (local field, few fields in SC and Camp Blanding Nightmare City Scenerio) seem to have problems filling 4500 bottles to their capacity and I see them fill it to 3000psi.

A friend of mine was telling me that even though you have a 4500psi bottle filled to 3000psi, you still get more shots then if you had a 3000psi bottle.   I am having problems seeing how this is true.  Is it?  Or is he just blowing smoke?

I am looking at upgrading my 48/3000 (bought when I was had limited $$$ and it was under $70) to a 68/3000, but am also looking at the 68/4500's but they are kinda costly and if I can't get it filled to capicity most of the time it seems like a waste.



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then gofor the 68/3
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Sorry, it double posted for some reason

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Originally posted by Klink Klink wrote:

A friend of mine was telling me that even though you have a 4500psi bottle filled to 3000psi, you still get more shots then if you had a 3000psi bottle.   I am having problems seeing how this is true.  Is it?  Or is he just blowing smoke?

What about this question?  True or False? 

I am leaning towards a False statement because how can it give you more shots with the same amount of air as in a 3000psi tank?

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That is not true a 68/30 and a 68/45 filled to the same PSI will get the same shots per tank. Its simple physics.
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Thanks.  That is what I was thinking but my friend is convinced you get more shots.  He is pretty gullible though and will beleave a lot of things ppl tell him.
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3K is 3K.  You will only get the same amount of shots. You do not have to get your bottle filled at the field. Check around to see who else fills them. If you have a full 4500 and 3K tank you should not need refilled at the field.
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Originally posted by bullseye9 bullseye9 wrote:

3K is 3K.  You will only get the same amount of shots. You do not have to get your bottle filled at the field. Check around to see who else fills them. If you have a full 4500 and 3K tank you should not need refilled at the field.

Wow, that is a lot of play from one fill. I run a 88/4500 and in three hours of speedball I have the tank refilled  three times.

At times my field's equipment cannot keep up with demand so it is difficult to get a fill above 3000 psi. But, the 4500 psi tank is there when higher fill pressures are available.

As for the original question mentioning the higher cost of the 4500 psi tank, check out Ebay. New and used 4500 psi cylinders there all the time sometimes going for as low as $120. I have bought two in that price range.

 

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If you have the money, and are older than say 13 or so, I suggest the 4500. I say this because the tanks are good for what 10-15 years? At some point in the tanks lifetime the field near you will be able to fill to 4500, or you'll move and a field there will be able to fill it.
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Originally posted by Unicorn Unicorn wrote:

tanks are good for what 10-15 years?


I always thought that you had to get them rehydroed every 2-3 years.
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Originally posted by Monk Monk wrote:


Originally posted by Unicorn Unicorn wrote:

tanks are good for what 10-15 years?


I always thought that you had to get them rehydroed every 2-3 years.


You have to get most HPA tanks re-hydroed every 3-5 years. The composite/fiberglass wrapped bottles have a limited life span of 15 years. After 15 years the bottle is no longer able to be re-certified and must be placed out of service (i.e.destroyed).
Steel tanks are lifetime tanks and can be re-tested and certified every 5 years, until they no longer pass hydro.
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i think its the same # 3k is 3k
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Originally posted by Klink Klink wrote:


I am looking at upgrading my 48/3000 (bought when I was had limited $$$ and it was under $70) to a 68/3000, but am also looking at the 68/4500's but they are kinda costly and if I can't get it filled to capicity most of the time it seems like a waste.



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Just remember that all the tanks whether 3000, 4500 or 5000 psi meet the same federal specifications. It doesn't make any difference whose name is in the tank, they are the same. If you pay $345 or $170 for an 88/4500 if the specs are the same, the tanks are the same. Buy the least expensive one! 

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