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HPA slower than CO2 on my A5??

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    Posted: 21 February 2006 at 7:26pm
When I put CO2 on my A5, it will shoot over 300 fps, but when I put HPA on it, I cant break 240.  Anyone have any ideas??
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Have you tried adusting your VA?
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Yes, allmost all the way out.  the VA makes a big difference using CO2, but on HPA, it doesnt make much difference at all.  I have used 2 different HPA tanks, one of them brand new.
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Are you using a high output tank? or a low output?
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How do I tell the difference?
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Originally posted by mbhifi mbhifi wrote:

How do I tell the difference?
what kind of tank are you using?
-edit-what brand?

Edited by Cheetos3254 - 21 February 2006 at 10:08pm
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Air America 47in 3000, and
Pure Energy 48in 3000
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ok do both Nitrogen tanks do this?
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ok look at your air american tank..at the part where it screws into your markers asa..is it blue or red?
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hmmm is there any blue or red?
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Besides the writing in the face of the pressure guage, no
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hmm are your tanks full? what do your tanks gauges say?
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2300 and 2900 lbs.
The tanks work fine on other guns, it is the A5 that has a problem with them.
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well I dunno what to tell you...either the tanks are low pressure..(tippmanns can only take high output) or there is something wrong inside of the A-5..heres my advice to you..take your marker apart and clean it and make sure all of the parts are there and try it again..if you still have the problem then take it toyour local shop and they will figure it out...sorry I couldnt help you out anymore but I'm completely stumped on this one..
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The marker is brand new, it has less than 500 balls through it, the shop I bought it at thought that it was my HPA tank so I bought a new one today.  It does the same thing.  Both tanks are 800 lb regulated tanks.
I will take it by the local shop and see what happens tommorrow.
thank you for trying.
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well try cleaning your marker first before taking it to the shop like I said earlier...it would be a shame to find out that was the problem and your now being charged for the repairs..
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screw your vel.adj. all the way in then start over gradually backing it out while checking the velosity, if you have a high psi output reg. on the tank it will work just fine
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This is a common problem with A-5's on HPA. The Problem Results from the fact that High Output HPA tanks have an Output or between 700-800psi, wheras CO2 tanks can hve higher outputs upto 1100psi thus giving you a higher velocity. The easiest way to fix this is to Get a Maddmann Spring Kit, or a RVA. Either of these will give you enough spring pressure on the valve to open it enough to give you a higher velocity.
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