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Topic: Electric bills will rise. Thank ObamaPosted: 03 November 2008 at 11:24am |
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Yup, Obama is going to get rid of that dirty coal... Too bad a huge portion of our energy comes from coal currently. Take that away, and you have much higher energy costs. Time to be "patriotic". Who needs West Virginia anyway?...
http://www.wvrecord.com/news/215679-coal-official-calls-obam a-comments-unbelievable quoted from article. ""I think this clearly shows the attitude the Obama-Biden ticket has toward coal," Ben Beakes said Sunday. "Rhetoric is cheap, but behind closed doors what they tell their supporters - that's what we have to take as gospel.
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 11:26am |
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shut up
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 11:27am |
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Yeah, it sure is an awful thing forcing coal companies to use a cleaner method of extraction and use. God forbid someone actually cares enough about the future of out planet to do something about it.
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 11:29am |
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Do you even read the links you post? Or bother to learn anything about the issues? Or check the links in my sig? BOTH candidates for presidents plan on a cap-and-trade system for carbon emissions. BOTH. Their approaches to this issue are very similar. Which, of course, is good, because we do need to stop using coal, but that is perhaps a different issue. Edited by Bruce Banner - 03 November 2008 at 12:16pm |
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 11:32am |
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FreeEnterprise has to be a troll..
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 11:44am |
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If I have said it once, I have said it about five times now:
The environment is not, and should not be made into, a political issue. This kind of thing effects all of us, red, blue, left, right and in between. |
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 11:51am |
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 11:56am |
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I think I will take everything FE says from now on as a joke.
Let's see where this goes. |
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 12:05pm |
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Sounds good to me, bring on the electric bills.
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 12:13pm |
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OBAMA 2008
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 12:25pm |
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yeah, because switching to other sources like nuclear (or nucular if you prefer), wind, water, solar, etc.
thats definately gonna make our electric bills MORE expensive in the long run. wait... |
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 2:00pm |
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Uhm, as a West Virginian, I'd like to say "It's about farking time!" Maybe then the unions won't have a death grip on that state and actual progress can be made in finding sustainable economic enterprises which will allow the state to re-populate and prosper for the first time since the 1940's.
Dow Chemical is slowly whittling down their operations there, all of the specialty chemical corps are doing the same, and DuPont isn't expanding. Coal mines are continuously producing less coal per unit and the method of getting to it (mountaintop removal) is destroying the environment far more than greenhouse gas emissions ever could. The only industry to pump any sort of economic normalcy into the state is the foreign auto industry (Toyota, NGK, Diamond Electric). Even that growth has been stifled by the AFL-CIO and other unions with their attempts to get these non-union shops to go "closed-shop." WV has been relying on it's natural resources for far too long. The resources are drying up and the advanced measures taken for obtaining them are destroying the ecosystem and beauty of one of the most amazing states in the union. An end to coal by any means would be the only way oust the unions from their positions of political power in that state and allow the people to move forward and achieve greater things. The greatest resource in WV is the work ethic of it's populace. That is what drew Toyota, NGK, and Diamond Electric to the state. It is what is drawing so many other higher level manufacturing companies to look at the state. My previous statement about your methods and beliefs still stands. You are a moron. |
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 2:58pm |
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glad to see tallen hasnt lost hi recipe for pwn soup.
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 3:04pm |
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Its doubtful any president will get anything done about energy in the next 3 elections atleast.
So unless Obama has the super majority and his party agrees with everything he says, then I wouldn't count on stopping coal. |
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 3:22pm |
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Exactly. Not to mention, his redistribution of money plot as well. I'm not claiming to know a whole lot about the government process, but I do know about the ignorant voter process. and I think it was Bland that said "Dude, you're going to be so pissed when Obama is President". |
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 3:43pm |
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yeah, dude... Tallon is so msart. Much smarter tahn teh presideenet of the Ohio coal association... He's for coal, must be dumbb. . http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=prnw.20081103.CLM078 &show_article=1
"Senator Obama has revealed himself to be nothing more than a short- sighted, inexperienced politician willing to say anything to get a vote. But today, the nation's coal industry and those who support it have a better understanding of his true mission, to 'bankrupt' our industry, put tens of thousands out of work and cause unprecedented increases in electricity prices. |
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 3:46pm |
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It all depends on what you mean by "getting anything done" about energy. Energy is actually one of the areas that gets consistent congressional and regulatory attention. Small and big changes are happening on a regular basis. And some of the changes proposed are not so complicated. Building more nukes, for instance, is mostly a matter of telling the NRC to start approving applications. As for renewable energy, the wall street bailout bill included some vital tax credits for renewable energy - although the wind folks will seek another extension this spring. So that is already done. The two main things that would majorly change our energy policy, however, would be more complicated and will take time. First, a national renewable portfolio standard. Second, a carbon cap and trade system. Both are generally popular, but both are very complex and will take time to get done. Shouldn't be a matter of policy so much as a matter of just doing the prep work. Other policy changes, like a feed-in tariff would be easier from a process standpoint but perhaps more controversial as well. Yet others, like changing net metering rules, should be almost a no-brainer. Anyway - there are easy things and hard things. It wouldn't be difficult to find some very popular easy things to do, if they try and have the right people whispering in their ear. |
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 3:47pm |
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Once again, your links bear no relationship to your posts. Do you just hit the link-randomizer when you post? |
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 3:52pm |
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Yeah, an article TITLED Ohio Coal Association Says Obama Remarks Make It Clear: Obama Ticket Not Supportive of Coal That doesn't relate to tallens comments about coal in wva... |
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Posted: 03 November 2008 at 3:53pm |
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yeah, his job depends on the coal industry, of course he is going to say anything necessary to keep that industry going as long as possible. learn to recognize bias. |
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