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    Posted: 27 May 2009 at 5:15pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gay_marriage


Gay marriage ban in Calif stands, says Calif Supreme Court.

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Wow, that's surprising and unfortunate.
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Wow, lame.

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The moral majority rejoices while one of the final steps in American civil rights is pushed back by another decade.

Awesome.
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It will be on the ballot again next election till it passes, and the marriages that were performed are still legal so I dont see this roadblock to more legal gay marriage in CA lasting very long.
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This issue is a tough one.

Do we protect the civil rights of the people of California by u[holding their decision?

or

Do we protect the civil rights of the gay community by overturning a vote that was made by the people of the state?

Whom do we protect and whom do we urinate on with a blatant disregard for their rights as American citizens?
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I for one am relatively pleased with this outcome.

I was very displeased that proposition 8 passed, however I would have been more displeased if the courts decided to overthrow the rights of the people. 

I hope some form of civil unions are made legal to gays come the next election.
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The state should not recognize marriage at all, only civil unions.
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Originally posted by Bolt3 Bolt3 wrote:

The state should not recognize marriage at all, only civil unions.


I'm going to also go ahead and second this.
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Originally posted by Darur Darur wrote:

  I hope some form of civil unions are made legal to gays come the next election.



Cali already does have civil unions...

Edited by Linus - 27 May 2009 at 7:10pm

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I still don't get why anyone cares. It would be like asking me to vote whether someone who lives a block away from me could get married. I don't know them, its up to them if they want to be legally bound to one another.
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Originally posted by choopie911 choopie911 wrote:

I still don't get why anyone cares. It would be like asking me to vote whether someone who lives a block away from me could get married. I don't know them, its up to them if they want to be legally bound to one another.


This is a beautiful point. When the fancy words get boiled away, its really just some people making a decision that really doesn't concern them.

That being said, it isn't the voter's fault. They were asked, and they registered their opinions. I"m glad that those opinions were upheld in the name of 'democracy' (I know that's a stretch) but on the other hand, I'm shaking my head at the idiots who thought this was something that should be as have been asked in the first place.
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Yeah I'm glad they didn't overturn it because, what was it 70%?, of the people said and it would be unconstitutional to reject the people's decision.
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Gay marriage shouldn't be allowed. Marriage is a religious thing, and homosexuality is generally not an accepted part of that.

The issue is that religion has become such a pathetically thinned institution. The legal implications of marriage are not a good idea, and should be removed or made equal to civil unions.

This issue is much deeper than dudes banging each other. It could become an issue of interaction between the church and state.

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Exactly. The state is interfering too much with religion.
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Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

This issue is a tough one.

Do we protect the civil rights of the people of California by u[holding their decision?

or

Do we protect the civil rights of the gay community by overturning a vote that was made by the people of the state?

Whom do we protect and whom do we urinate on with a blatant disregard for their rights as American citizens?


And here I thought it was the governments place to protect the rights of the minority, whatever the majority may think?  A majority of the time, the majority has their heads shoved too far up their brown eye to make the right decision.  Amendments 13-15 and 19 come to mind.
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Originally posted by Frozen Balls Frozen Balls wrote:

Gay marriage shouldn't be allowed. Marriage is a religious thing, and homosexuality is generally not an accepted part of that.


If marriage is a religious issue, then the state has no business regulating it unless it poses a demonstrated and direct harm to people (like child sacrifice). To say it shouldn't be allowed is to favor some religions over others by the government, which is UN-FREAKIN-CONSTITUTIONAL!

If civil unions are a strictly government thing and marriage is religious, then civil unions must be available equally, and marriage should be up to religious institutions. Considering that there are such institutions that do support gay marriage, the government would be violating the first amendment (which they're already doing by regulating marriage) by disallowing their benefits while giving benefits strictly to straight couples for marriages.
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Nevertheless, if marraige were to become a strictly religious controlled thing and civil unions a government, if the church were to disallow marraige to homosexual people, wouldn't the government have to step in on this anyways?
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No, because religion is not a corporation, or a business.

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