Project Salvo with a side of smoke

Well, Got my salvo, fired the sucker, and I'm happy, its very accurate. But the problem is, yup, I got liquid Co2 coming in the chamber! It smokes and sometimes the liquid even escapes from the rear bolt.

I dont have money to buy a Expansion chamber (and god knows that probably would help), and I have no clue what a anti-siphon tank is or if I have one. I just have a 20oz pure energy co2 tank.

At most, I have 25$ to upgrade, so if someone can recommend a extremely cheap part to fix it, I cant upgrade.

I wanna know if theres anything I can do to fix it.

btw, I fired it in the rain and it smoked. It smoked on a clear 70F day, and it smoked on 3 different tanks.

Enos Shenk wrote: Have you chrono'd it? If its shooting the right speed and decently consistent its nothing to worry about.

I dont have a chonometer, but it doesnt matter how much I move the velocity screw it lets out the same ammount of liquid and smoke.

short of disassembly to make sure no rings are busted, I've tried many things.

Mack wrote: Luc McCloud wrote: Enos Shenk wrote: Have you chrono'd it? If its shooting the right speed and decently consistent its nothing to worry about. I dont have a chonometer, but it doesnt matter how much I move the velocity screw it lets out the same ammount of liquid and smoke. That's because it is essentially releasing the same amount of propellant with every shot because of the way the stock Tippmann velocity adjuster works. short of disassembly to make sure no rings are busted, I've tried many things. There's really no point in disassembly until you are certain there is a problem.  Measuring velocity is the best/quickest way to determine this.

If the velocity screw doesnt affect the amount of Co2 released into the gun, then how would chronoing the gun help in any way?

oldpbnoob wrote: Because as Enos states, if it is capable of shooting at the correct FPS and has consistency, it isn't a problem. Typically, if you have a blown and O-ring, you will know it.   If you are looking for a cheap expansion chamber, look into a remote. They can act as an expansion chamber and can usually be had for $25-30. Of course, it would require that you have a pod pack that has a tank pocket...

yea, cheapest line is 30$ and a expansion chamber for a 98 would be 40$... And I wouldnt know how to install it (being the expansion chamber) on salvo.

And its firing consistantly from what I see, it just is litterally spitting liquid Co2 from the rear bolt while releasing alot of smoke..


Edited by Luc McCloud - 25 September 2009 at 7:22pm

Mack wrote: ^^^If this is really an issue to you and you have access to a chronograph (someone else's, at a field, etc.) you could probably find a spring kit within your price range.  If you chose to do this, you would want to try a lighter spring (which would release less propellant) and see if you could still reach adequate playing velocity.  The downside to this suggestion would be that a weaker spring might not release enough CO2 so you would have spent money on a spring kit you don't need.  Another downside is that you might have to put a heavier spring back in as it gets colder if you plan on continuing to play because of the temperature sensitive nature of CO2.

I'll look into this next paycheck then, I need to try to put a expansion chamber on it first see if it fixes the issue.

Maybe its just the type of tank too, I mean, I tried all 3 pure energy tanks and same issues..

Maybe I just try to refund my money for the Co2 tank and just get a HPA tank?

or am I just tightening the Co2 tank too much (pin pushes further in the tank thus more co2 released?)

Wear the tank vertically on a vest or belt and use a remote line. This will keep the tank vertical and CO2 out of the marker. I use a simple low cost tach belt with a tank pouch. I've bought several remote lines online for $10.00-$15.00 shipped and the belt and pouch cost me $10.00.