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    Posted: 21 October 2010 at 4:58pm
Grow a pair and stop pandering to morons.

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Eh, I dunno on this one.  Perceived weakness in the eyes of your enemies (in this case, American conservatives) can be come real weakness.
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The fact it's being perceived as a weakness is retarded.
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Originally posted by scotchyscotch scotchyscotch wrote:

The fact it's being perceived as a weakness is retarded.
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I don't disagree, but that doesn't change reality.

People are stupid.  It's an important fact.
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I know it doesn't change anything mate.I would have liked to see him go ahead with it then have him personally respond  to the criticism. You know you're a jackass when the president of the USA is calling you one.
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Originally posted by scotchyscotch scotchyscotch wrote:

I know it doesn't change anything mate.I would have liked to see him go ahead with it then have him personally respond  to the criticism. You know you're a jackass when the president of the USA is calling you one.
Unfortunately people here are what we call "retarded." They'd just whine about how Obama is an elitist terrorist if he actually did something like that.
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I don't care what headgear he wears.  It has no impact on my opinion of him.  What would have an impact would be if he were to wake up and see that there are actually a lot of people who are not impressed with his leadership for various reasons as opposed to blaming everything on the opposition, racism, etc.*


*No, I am not saying the President himself has necessarily made these claims.  However, I do consider him responsible for what his staff/party put out.  Is that fair.  Heck yeah, he is supposed to be a leader.
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Originally posted by Mack Mack wrote:

What would have an impact would be if he were to wake up and see that there are actually a lot of people who are not impressed with his leadership for various reasons as opposed to blaming everything on the opposition, racism, etc.*
 

Here here. 

Especially the blaming of the opposition when you have a majority in the House and Senate, and you let the opposition control the dialogue with shouting falsehoods (DEATH PANELS! HEALTH CARE RATIONING! BOWING TO FOREIGNERS!). 

Point the blame to your own blue dogs that are pandering to southern conservatives. 

And most of all, grow a pair and start calling Republicans out on their crap. 

Of course, that's not going to happen in the current Democratic Party. It might make them seem mean. 
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WHAT DOES IT MEAN!?
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Separation of church and state!

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Where is that in the Constitution?


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Perhaps we should add a clause:

"All presidents must have a backbone"
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Originally posted by pepprdog pepprdog wrote:

Where is that in the Constitution?

Amendment 1, first line. 
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Don't see the verbage 'seperation of church and state', within the 'first line', all I see is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"
which is defined in the language of the time as Congress can not establish a 'state' religion ala 'Church of England'.

The part that is totally forgotten in the first line is;"or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" where Congress as well as the Courts have created laws prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

The current religion of the state is 'The religion of No Religion' where a mass belief system is in place where the State is the devine entity, and a forced belief system of 'No Religion' is enforced by law.

Look up the definition of religion;
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Again, congress sets budgets via a law.  those budgets pay for everything the government does and everything government employees do on the clock.  If the government or its employees spend any time or other resource on religion, then congress has made a law respecting religion.  This is why that even though it doesnt explicitly state "separation of church and state" in the constitution, that is exactly what is required in order to abide by the 1st amendment. 
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