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Glassjaw
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Topic: Reagan and FbookPosted: 08 February 2011 at 10:17am |
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http://newsjunkiepost.com/2011/02/06/the-disastrous-legacy-of-ronald-reagan-in-charts/
Someone posted this on Fbook, and thought it might stir some nice discussion here. TL;DR: Reagan was a fail.
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Posted: 08 February 2011 at 10:32am |
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An interesting book called Confessions of an Economic Hit Man suggests that several of things in your article were set in motion long before Reagan's presidency.
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Posted: 08 February 2011 at 10:34am |
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To be truthful I'm not that well versed in the topics discussed in my article, but I am aware of them. I'll check your book out though.
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Posted: 08 February 2011 at 11:29am |
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Posted: 08 February 2011 at 12:00pm |
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I'll leave this here:
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Posted: 08 February 2011 at 7:01pm |
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Awfully kind of you whale, but I can't see anything.
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Posted: 08 February 2011 at 7:17pm |
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Way to fail at image, whale.
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Posted: 08 February 2011 at 7:42pm |
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I always considered Reagan an overrated President and Nixon an underrated president.
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Posted: 08 February 2011 at 9:14pm |
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Star Wars was the shizzle. It essentially kept the Soviets coming back to the conference table time after time because the mere concept of us having something that threw the MAD concept out of whack like orbital interception did simply scared the living jebus out of them. While it never made it to fruition, it not only kept Gorby from pulling a Kruschev and walking away from talks, it helped bankrupt the USSR in their attempts to come up with a counter.
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Posted: 08 February 2011 at 9:21pm |
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Ill have to re-read the paper I wrote on how Reagan was one of the top presidents. Quite a few people in the class did Reagan.
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Posted: 08 February 2011 at 11:47pm |
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The article makes it pretty clear it's not exactly unbiased. Still, pretty interesting to see the figured presented in the graphs.
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Posted: 09 February 2011 at 12:18am |
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Reagan had his positives, but they were usually the policies of his predecessors as well or they contradicted the traditional conservative values (especially his supposed hardline anti-communist stance) that he campaigned on. I liked his actual foreign policies, but he shouldn't be considered the beacon of conservatism that he is. |
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Posted: 09 February 2011 at 1:23am |
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I wasnt a fan of his lassiez-faire economics. It essentially made the rich richer and the poor poorer (golly gee), while hardline conservatives touted it as being close to perfect. Whereas Nixon's freezing of wages and prices avoided a mid seventies recession.
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Posted: 09 February 2011 at 1:43am |
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I can get behind this. Nixon and Kissenger were definitely worth having, and I would argue that they started the end of the Cold War while making it acceptable to "lose" (quotations because Vietnam was lost as soon as China went nuclear and, to a significant extent, the US chose to support Diem in the south) Vietnam.
Between his domestic policies, outspoken hard-line conservatism paired with his unwillingness to actually follow through with the policies that followed from his positions, and his (ridiculously effective) public relations campaign that essentially started the anti-intellectualism movement, I feel like he was easily one of the worst presidents of the 20th century. Like I said, he had his ups, but calling him one of our best presidents would require a bunch of intellectual leaps that I don't think can be justified. And I wish that site would actually hotlink to the full-size graphs. It sucks not being able to see the fine print on some of them. |
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Posted: 09 February 2011 at 7:07am |
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So, for those who think Nixon was a paragon of excellence, I pose this question. If he hadn't opened trade relations in the manner that he did, do you think we'd be facing the horrible trade deficit we do right now?
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Posted: 09 February 2011 at 6:20pm |
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The Nixon thing kind of baffles me. I see Nixon now being praised in circles all over, yet unless my grasp of history is entirely misled, he was a paranoid delusional who was determined that the president of the Unted States was above law and ethics.
History may look more kindly on his foreign policies, but domestically he was a nightmare.
As far as Reagan, I think he's pulled too far in both directions. He set some questionable policies into play, no doubt about that, but he did what he felt was right for the time. That's all any president can do, and I'm not sure he or anyone else would have predicted the nightmares that deregulation would be produce.
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Posted: 09 February 2011 at 8:54pm |
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Without Nixon there would be no EPA and with no EPA there would be no sunshine and bunny rabbits
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Posted: 10 February 2011 at 10:26pm |
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I think everybody on this thread has established some good points on Reagan's positive and negative attributes. As history lays its eyes on every President its hard to argue that he had some major impacts on foreign and domestic policy that lead to the fall of the Soviet Empire and the largest economic boom in our country's history as well as put us back in the driver's seat as the lone world super power. Now I am sure people will say that is starting to wither.....but whose fault is that now. I am sure if he could come back from the grave and help us, he would. But our country is in our hands now. Lets return to the basics of self reliance, good ctitzenship,take responsibility and do the right thing for us and our neighbors. God Bless America!!
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Posted: 11 February 2011 at 12:43am |
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The counterpoint for consideration there is that by the time Reagan was in charge, the Soviet Union was already in decline, and the end was near eventually anyway.
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Posted: 11 February 2011 at 1:30am |
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