New marker ????? Tippmann

Thanks alot.  You've just invited the high end bashers.   Good job.

Bob Long has a new design and color scheme on the same marker!

A few points.

• Tippmann makes a solid product, selling to a specific market. They dont need to come out with a new gun every year just so they can flood the market
• Yes, It will always look like people are 'Hanging Up' Tippmanns, because they are often the first gun (other than Brass Eagle) that people get. People buy better guns and move on.
• Bob Long tosses a new color and different milling on a gun and calls it new, and you impressed by it?
• Pros dont use Tippmanns because Tippmann Inc. has not payed for them to do so. Want to know why certian 'pro' teams use certian guns? The companys give them the guns for free so consumers see them using the product. Kingman gives (Well I think they still do) Bad Company equiptment, Bad Company plays (Once again, I think they still do) with Spyders.
• You can say what you want, Tippmann will win an endurance test over any other gun 100-1. No, You dont through your gun down as hard as you can, but the fact that CAN and it will still work great is what your looking for.
• Tippmann does not need colors. Why do you need colors? Maybe its just me, but I think flat-black will shoot people just as effective as baby-puke swirl.

Hey don't get me wrong, color does not make it shoot any different.  It is the same reason they have different color cars, houses, clothes.  It makes for a better style to match what you like.  FLat black is that important.  I am in the military and piantball camo is worth your life like in Irag where you don't want a purple M4.  Color choice would be nice, you could keep your black and many others would chose there favorite color or black if they like.  You are making a bold statment.  You are talking for everyone then when you say that about black.  So do you think if they had other colors they would NOT sell.  No, I have seen a Dye DM4 dropped and picked up and shoot faster that the cyclone could dream of.  I am writing this because Tippmann is my favortie brand, I alwaqys get crap but this year I need to keep up with things.  The shocker last year was devasting to play agisnt and I can hold my own.  Rate of fire does help in this day and age.  Point of the day, Tippmann needs a new marker.  Also, Tippmann pays for Tippmann Effect to plat and they suck really bad.  The truth hurts.

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Personally, I don't even keep up with any tourney ball whatsoever. But as for the A5, it still has it's benefits.

Let's see, like you said, it's over 3 years old, and it STILL has the best loader on the market built into the gun! Ever seen another hopper run on air? How much is a 15bps+ loader nowadays? Well, whatever it costs to the normal person, it costs nothing to the guy that just bought an A5!

Basically, the A5 costs about $230 last time I checked. It comes with an awesome loader that requires no batteries....that's worth at least $80 in todays paintball world.

If you want to play tourney with an A5, you can buy an E-Grip. If you want to play rec, you can buy an RT. Either way you are actually ripping over 15 balls per second for not much more than $300. There's really no new gun that can actually shoot as fast as an A5 in the same price range.

To meet the A5's performance with another gun, it would cost alot more money.

And to still be able to say that about a 3 year old gun when, like you say, people like Bob Long come out with a new $1000 every other month, is a feat in itself.

Speedball or especially woods, the A5 is pretty much still the unbeatable price/performance ratio champ.

And not to mention, it looks a lot more realistic than most other production paintguns out there....perfect for a mil-sim mock-up.

I guess what it comes down to is that most Tippmann users go by the motto,"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

And when you can get over 17bps with a gun that costs well under $300, all without batteries, you can pretty much rest assured that nothing is broken.

ThEeViLcHiCkEn wrote: ^^^ 17BPS?????? WTF?????? I dont think so, the a5 wont even do 9. MAYBE 13 with e-grip. If by 13 you mean 15. Thats with full auto which is illegal in tournys. I had an a5, big and bulky, you needed to have a tool box on you to take it apart. A-5 needs no tools to take apart, genius. GO look on pbnation they are dirt cheap. There used, no one wants them, i mean wow they can be dropped. WOW any marker can be droped, that is all tippmann has for the outdated piece. The cyclone feed is such a gas hog, let alone with the R/T. They use excess blowback gas, you know nothing. Tippmanns suck, id rather go buy a spyder then a tippmann, I hated mine. I will never go back. People with a-5s get made fun of, really they do. I've never been made fun of for havign an A-5. Maybe you're just a tool. and for the guy who thought that id be cool with 3 posts to make a 2nd post, get over it. The guy is gunna suck anyways, and in another 3 years you'll be complaning about the same thing. LET IT GO. How about we let you go...jump off a cliff?

I think they could use a new gun but i dont want to see yet another electro.

Im a woodsballer primarily and speedballer in the off season.

Theirs lots out there for speed ballers and the chance of tippmann getting a large slice of that market is slim at best.  But they already OWN the woodsball market and need to offer newer better faster marker for this. 

Think about it. The model 98 lasted for two years until the custom came out to allow more upgrades. Then in '02 the A-5 came out. So you have one gun that essentially lasted for four years with only a slight change in the body to allow for more options, and another one that's been out for three years.

Personally I think we won't see another gun until '06, but possibly this year if they're already working on it. I just hope it's not some retarded flashy electro.

One thing I just thought of, and thought I'd post it here.

Ever notice how Tippmann bashers typically have no facts?

I swear, before I got my first paintgun I read all I could on all the different guns. From what people said, the only real disadvantages of the Tippmann were low rate of fire, heavy, and long.

When I saw my first Spyder next to my M98C, I was surprised that the Spyder was really no more than 2" shorter than the M98C. It also felt heavier and less balanced.

Then I shot both guns, and I liked the trigger on the M98C a lot more....I could easily shoot faster with the Tippmann.

Then I got an A5 w/RT, and I realized just how fast an "entry-level" paintgun can shoot!

If you don't think the A5RT can hit 17bps, you're wrong.

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I'm assuming this navy guy is an officer...

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Hey Hway....   I haven't seen you around for some time...

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