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    Posted: 18 February 2006 at 9:23pm
how do you know what kinda tank to get for your gun? i see these different kinds like 3000, 4500, and 5000. what do these numbers mean? i am looking to get a compressed air tank for my 98 custom( which i plan to get an rt for ) and my piranha GTI eforce '04.
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ok, hpa: well, you have your size tanks is ci and your psi. 3000,4500 and5000 are psi, the standard is about 68/4500. umm, hpa is really consistent, make sure the psi output is high pressure(800psi).

to get how many shots out of a tank, take the ci times 10for 3000,15for 4500, 20 for 5000

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  Aight. Hopefully, my next few paragraphs will have you understanding everything about the numbers concerned with HPA tanks. First off, there are three numbers you have to worry about, which I will explain in the next 3 paraghraphs....

 1. First off, theres the size of the tank, usually in CI for Cubic Inches, or CU for Cubis Units (which are both the same thing here). So in the tank description, they'll usually list the CU of the tank, then the internal pressure of the tank (next paragraph). So, it might be 68/whatever, or 45/whatever. The first number being the size of the tank, in CU's. The bigger the tank meaning the more shots per tnak you'll get.

 2. The next number you need to know is the internal pressure of the tank, usually either 3000 psi, 4500 psi, and sometimes 5000 psi. Like said above, it's usually the 2nd number in the x/y description (x being the size of the tank, y being the internal pressure of the tank). So you might have a 68/4500 tank, which is 68 CU's, and has an internal pressure of 4500 psi. The higher the internal pressure of the tank, the more shots per tank you're going to be able to get.

 3. The third and final number you need to know is the output pressure of the tank. See, every HPA tank has a regulator on it, which take the internal pressure of the tank down to the specified output pressure. Tanks comes in two output pressures, 450 psi, or 850 psi. You'll want a 850 psi output (aka a High Output, compared to the 450 psi output which is aka a low output) tank for yor gun(s).

Hope I helped. And the average size tank is 68/4500.

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Originally posted by SuzukiRider987 SuzukiRider987 wrote:

  Aight. Hopefully, my next few paragraphs will have you understanding everything about the numbers concerned with HPA tanks. First off, there are three numbers you have to worry about, which I will explain in the next 3 paraghraphs....

 1. First off, theres the size of the tank, usually in CI for Cubic Inches, or CU for Cubis Units (which are both the same thing here). So in the tank description, they'll usually list the CU of the tank, then the internal pressure of the tank (next paragraph). So, it might be 68/whatever, or 45/whatever. The first number being the size of the tank, in CU's. The bigger the tank meaning the more shots per tnak you'll get.

 2. The next number you need to know is the internal pressure of the tank, usually either 3000 psi, 4500 psi, and sometimes 5000 psi. Like said above, it's usually the 2nd number in the x/y description (x being the size of the tank, y being the internal pressure of the tank). So you might have a 68/4500 tank, which is 68 CU's, and has an internal pressure of 4500 psi. The higher the internal pressure of the tank, the more shots per tank you're going to be able to get.

 3. The third and final number you need to know is the output pressure of the tank. See, every HPA tank has a regulator on it, which take the internal pressure of the tank down to the specified output pressure. Tanks comes in two output pressures, 450 psi, or 850 psi. You'll want a 850 psi output (aka a High Output, compared to the 450 psi output which is aka a low output) tank for yor gun(s).

Hope I helped. And the average size tank is 68/4500.

Couldn't have said it better myself.  But your explanation is more concise and detailed. 



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Originally posted by mjicmike mjicmike wrote:

Originally posted by SuzukiRider987 SuzukiRider987 wrote:

  Aight. Hopefully, my next few paragraphs will have you understanding everything about the numbers concerned with HPA tanks. First off, there are three numbers you have to worry about, which I will explain in the next 3 paraghraphs....

 1. First off, theres the size of the tank, usually in CI for Cubic Inches, or CU for Cubis Units (which are both the same thing here). So in the tank description, they'll usually list the CU of the tank, then the internal pressure of the tank (next paragraph). So, it might be 68/whatever, or 45/whatever. The first number being the size of the tank, in CU's. The bigger the tank meaning the more shots per tnak you'll get.

 2. The next number you need to know is the internal pressure of the tank, usually either 3000 psi, 4500 psi, and sometimes 5000 psi. Like said above, it's usually the 2nd number in the x/y description (x being the size of the tank, y being the internal pressure of the tank). So you might have a 68/4500 tank, which is 68 CU's, and has an internal pressure of 4500 psi. The higher the internal pressure of the tank, the more shots per tank you're going to be able to get.

 3. The third and final number you need to know is the output pressure of the tank. See, every HPA tank has a regulator on it, which take the internal pressure of the tank down to the specified output pressure. Tanks comes in two output pressures, 450 psi, or 850 psi. You'll want a 850 psi output (aka a High Output, compared to the 450 psi output which is aka a low output) tank for yor gun(s).

Hope I helped. And the average size tank is 68/4500.

Couldn't have said it better myself.  But your explanation is more concise and detailed. 

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thanks a bunch guys.. i will be buying a hpa tank later this week, so i wont be stuck with co2 for much longer, your descriptions really helped. thanks again.
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Can  you fill your own tank with your air compressor?
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Originally posted by pythonman56 pythonman56 wrote:

Can  you fill your own tank with your air compressor?
(dumb newb question)

well you have to have one hell of an air compressor.

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Originally posted by monty_sniper monty_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by pythonman56 pythonman56 wrote:

Can  you fill your own tank with your air compressor?
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well you have to have one hell of an air compressor.

Buy a dive tank. Get that filled and thn you cann fill you own bottle

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go to your local fire station. they fill it. or buy a dive tank.
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Originally posted by monty_sniper monty_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by pythonman56 pythonman56 wrote:

Can  you fill your own tank with your air compressor?
(dumb newb question)

well you have to have one hell of an air compressor.

Yeah it'd have to be pretty beastly.

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Originally posted by dodan44 dodan44 wrote:

go to your local fire station. they fill it. or buy a dive tank.

Shoot, have you actually tried that? If I walked up to someone at the Fire Station and asked them to fill my Dive Tank, or Paintball tank from their cascade system they would laugh me out the door.
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why 850 psi output and not 450 psi output
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Originally posted by KALIS-PIMENTA KALIS-PIMENTA wrote:

why 850 psi output and not 450 psi output

Because 450 wont work on a normal Tippmann.

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Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

Originally posted by KALIS-PIMENTA KALIS-PIMENTA wrote:

why 850 psi output and not 450 psi output

Because 450 wont work on a normal Tippmann.

a 450 would have to have a lpk on it.

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Originally posted by pythonman56 pythonman56 wrote:

Can  you fill your own tank with your air compressor?
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im pretty sure that a normal compressor's air has too much water vapor in it so it wouldnt be good.
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Originally posted by MVM91 MVM91 wrote:

Originally posted by pythonman56 pythonman56 wrote:

Can  you fill your own tank with your air compressor?
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im pretty sure that a normal compressor's air has too much water vapor in it so it wouldnt be good.

True, but a lack of a good output is more troubling.

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Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

Originally posted by dodan44 dodan44 wrote:

go to your local fire station. they fill it. or buy a dive tank.

Shoot, have you actually tried that? If I walked up to someone at the Fire Station and asked them to fill my Dive Tank, or Paintball tank from their cascade system they would laugh me out the door.

 

 

very true.  The liability and the time needed to do it would keep most departments from doing it.

what connections are needed to use a scba fill compressor btw?  I have access to one.  I can fill up to 4500 psi.  I would assume the fittings might be the same. 

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Originally posted by dodan44 dodan44 wrote:

go to your local fire station. they fill it. or buy a dive tank.
Shoot, have you actually tried that? If I walked up to someone at the Fire Station and asked them to fill my Dive Tank, or Paintball tank from their cascade system they would laugh me out the door.
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Originally posted by dodan44 dodan44 wrote:

the door.
i live in a small town and they dont care.[/QUOTE]

 

 

what fittings do you use?  does it attach directly to the scba fill station?  i would buy an hpa tank if it would directly bolt up.

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